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Fri 05/06/05


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:37 AM - Changing mics on headsets (John Jung)
     2. 10:26 AM - Hi KOLBERS (Bill Wheet)
     3. 02:34 PM - Re: Hi KOLBERS (Richard Pike)
     4. 02:58 PM - Re: Pitot location (GeoR38@aol.com)
     5. 03:46 PM - Re: Sun (GeoR38@aol.com)
     6. 04:21 PM - Re: Pitot location (Bob N.)
     7. 06:13 PM - Re: Hi KOLBERS (Bill Wheet)
     8. 11:04 PM - Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIc Update (Larry Bourne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:37:20 AM PST US
    From: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Changing mics on headsets
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Boyd and Group, This may be a problem on other headsets, too. Even my DRE 2000's had to used different mics in the high noise on my Kolb. Before I switched mics, nobody could understand me with the engine running. I got them 5 years ago, though. My 6000 set works fine with the mic that came with it. John Jung > on b oth sets of headsets i have use i have had to make changes to the > mikes > inorder to lower the noise level so that the intercom was opperated at > a > level within it capabilities..... on the pilot pa 60's i called > the > company and they sent new mikes that were designed for a higher noise > envirment..... on the sigtronics enc headsets i was instructed in > how to > decrease the mike gain control,,, both headsets were greatly > improved > with the lower mike levels. > > boyd


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    Time: 10:26:06 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net>
    Subject: Hi KOLBERS
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net> Though I would jump in and say I was a kitfox driver but sold it today SOON to be a kolb driver Buying a Firestar II I understand they go up hill better than a fox! Bill


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    Time: 02:34:56 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Hi KOLBERS
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Welcome aboard. You'll like it. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) FSII N582EF do not archive At 01:26 PM 5/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net> > >Though I would jump in and say I was a kitfox driver but sold it today >SOON to be a kolb driver >Buying a Firestar II >I understand they go up hill better than a fox! >Bill > >


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    Time: 02:58:35 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Pitot location
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 4/20/2005 6:42:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, dlbigelow@verizon.net writes: > > I put the pitot tube on my FS2 at the very front of the nose cone as per the > plans. That seems to be a reasonable place to catch an undisturbed airflow. > Most airspeed errors are related to static port position. You need two > ports, one on each side of the fuselage, and in an area as perpendicular to the > airflow as possible. Having one on each side cancels out the effects of yaw. > > I bought a pair of static ports from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty, and > installed them low down and as far to the rear of the nose cone as possible. I > did the test flights with a Hall Wind meter mounted out the side of the > cockpit to cross check the indicated air speeds. The two are right together in the > lower speed ranges, but the indicated air speed is slightly lower than the > Hall meter at 45 mph and above. > > Having no static ports and just using the static pressure inside the cockpit > works, but will never be very accurate. > > Dave Bigelow > Kamuela, Hawaii > FS2 > I did EXACTLY what Dave did, someone came along and broke my pitot out the front, so I use my "test" hall meter all the time..............so....I have=20an extra ASI in the cockpit that isn't even hooked up. I just use the Hall meter all time, which is pretty darned good I would say ....except if a spider decides he wants to make love to my movable wafer.....or.... if I read the meter when I am doing an outside loop and the mass of the wafer competes with the=20air flow...... Oh well, we live in a more interesting REAL world instead of that virtual or ideal one. BTW..... Beauford.... I wish I could have spoken so eloquently about the "cost" of the Sun n Fun. You hit it right on.....isn't there something else=20we could go to around here somewhere? I really don't need to pay for an air show put on by professionals....actually I didn't even see this year's airshow anyway cause I got sick and the atmosphere was too cold and windy....Kolbers... George Randolph Firestar driver from The Villages....er...almost anyway Stand by for a minor rant... Concur with Bob and Ed... Costs of attending SnF are wildly out of control. Some examples...=A0 After noting last year that they had been removed, my buddies and I made a point of looking all day to see how many water fountains we could find.. saw a grand total of four remaining in the whole place, all in a row at one location between the vendor sheds.=A0 There may be more, but we sure couldn't find them. There used to be many more scattered around the crowd areas....=A0 Instead, the place is now infested up with stands selling bottled water for nearly $3 a small .5 liter bottle and $4 lemonade.=A0 I Paid $25.50 for lunch for two people; it was two sandwiches, two orders of fries, and two small cokes at a "carney" booth (the only place to get chow in the ultralight area)....=A0 I won't even get started about the $25 a head to get in.=A0 It's not just the money... It certainly costs a good bit to put on a show like this, and they are entitled to a fair return... It is the idea that these people have gone far past that and are gleefully, unashamedly and unapologetically screwing the clientelle... I sure do like little airplanes... especially slow little wooden and ragwing "poorboy" airplanes that sell for less than the price of a house... but by my observation, there is a sharp and noticible decline in the number of such little airplanes showing up at this event over the past few years and that, too, is eating away at my incentive for going....=A0 The numbers of little airplanes aside, I guess I am unhappiest over the recurring feeling that I am somehow being taken advantage of because I like slow little airplanes and want to go where they are aggregated... That said, there are finite limits to how bad a taste in my mouth I can tolerate when I drive away after a day out there being bent over a barrel.=A0 I don't mind paying for what I get... I will get out there and spread my meager plastic around with the best of them when I get fair value for the buck, but I have a stubborn streak about getting aired-out by perfect strangers while being held in a semi-captive environment.... and not getting kissed (that I can recall) all day long. The only thing missing out there was pay toilets. Stand-by for next year. It appears obvious to me that EAA is now vigorously engaged in trying to put major P.R. daylight between themselves and the present event at Lakeland... The EAA is engaging in public hand-wringing and blaming forces totally out of their control over what has happened to what used to be "their" show. Well, whatever happened to S'nF did not happen with masked men holding pistols on Poberezny and the EAA board of directors in the middle of the night...=A0=A0 Documents had to be signed conveying the rights to the SnF name and formal contracts agreed to....=A0=A0 and do you suppose that the EAA "gave it away" for nothing...???=A0 Right.=A0=A0 It looks to me (as well as to numerous other people I talked to out there) that this Lakeland operation has undergone a fundamental shift in the past five or six years from a gathering of enthusiasts with a common love for aviation, to a cash cow for some unnamed persons or interests.=A0 All I know is that not too long ago, this was an EAA show and they were very proud of it...whatever has happened, the EAA had to have signed up and allowed it to happen, and I personally find their protests of disassociation from what is taking place now to be disingenuous and disgusting.=A0 The good 'ol EAA has pretty well outgrown me and the sort of aviation which initially drew me to it by evolving into a culture which worships 300 horsepower plastic airplanes with $150K instrument panels and guys in monogrammed polyester jumpsuits... My airline retired-pilot buddy who usually flies in to attend S'nF with me put it about as well as I can as he was getting on the airliner to fly back to Kansas on Saturday... "The EAA has gotten their last dollar of my money, and so have the people who have taken over Lakeland..."=A0=A0 I have to agree with him... I live 20 miles from it, but I likely won't be back. Blatently Bitter Beauford in Brandon FF#076 No plastic. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Airgriff2@aol.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > Ed Writes >> >> >> Bob, >>> >>>=A0 Last time I went to S N F they charged a whole week of camping >>> even if >>>=A0=A0 you just wanted to camp for 2 nights.=A0 They would not refund the >>> difference. >>>=A0=A0 That is not fair.=A0 At least at Oshkosh they will refund=20the days >>> you >>> don't use. >>> >>>=A0=A0 Do you know if that is still the way they operate? If so I may >>> never >>> go back! >>> >>>=A0 Yes, Ed, I arrived 2 days early, paid an extra $40 plus the full=20week >>> of >>> camping regardless of how many nights I stayed. The show itself was >>> great >>> as usual but the main campground was a bit less.=A0 Their rules say roping >>> off >>> areas to save them ahead of time isn't allowed. As you ride around >>> looking >>> for a spot you see roped areas all over and nothing is said.=A0 Also they >>> say >>> no tents around the rim of the pond. I bet you could count 30 or 40 of >>> them? >>> The vending and camp stores used to be run by local organizations from >>> Lakeland trying to raise money, such as boys & girls clubs.=A0 Now they >>> are all >>> commercial and carnival type venders.=A0 Only food available in the main >>> campground, other than the corn roast, was from the "Cinnamon bun"unit >>> which got $5 >>> + for a roll. Neither one of the camp stores ever opened up at all. I >>> was >>> in a tent only area which is supposed to be quiet with no generators. >>> Near by >>> was a refrigerated trailer unit running 24/7. Sorry to go on with the >>> little gripes, but don't blame the EAA.=A0 The local paper explained that >>> Sun & Fun >>> has dropped "EAA" from it's logo because they want people to realize >>> that >>> the show is owned and operated by "Sun & Fun Inc.", not the EAA. > > Fly Safe > Bob Griffin


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    Time: 03:46:27 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sun
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 4/20/2005 8:22:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes: > > I'm coming across as being bitter and hostile about EAA, and I really should > > not do that... I just feel betrayed, somehow, that one of the really > pleasurable and fun things in what I laughingly refer to as my "life" now > appears to have turned into a near-total bust in a relatively short period > of time. EAA was a fine little-guy organization at one time in the > not-too-distant past, and Lakeland was an event to be looked forward to and > relished each year... I don't like being cheated out of something I like. > I feel so badly about this that I think I'm about to be driven out into the > yard to light up a stogie, have a Martini and sulk... and it'll all be > Poberezny's fault. I'll shut up about it. > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > I'm sorry folks that I'm sooooo far behind on my email....and trust me ... there is absolutely no excuse for it..... but when Beauford talks....and you all Know the Rest of the Story.... he hits it right on the head...... but look at the sentence including 'my "life" '... God, that is a true classic!! LOL George Randolph Firestar dri.....etc


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    Time: 04:21:34 PM PST US
    From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot location
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net> Regarding the breakage of pitot tubes: Mine has a short, maybe one inch pc of plastic tubing between the short pc of hard line jutting from nose cone. This connects to a 4" pc. of hard line. At fly-ins, little boys...and big stupid ones, too, can bend the hard line without breaking the whole dang thing. Thinking of wiring an old Ford spark coil to the end piece, just to see 'em dance! Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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    Time: 06:13:41 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net>
    Subject: Re: Hi KOLBERS
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net> Thanks 42 OLD Poops I am in the north east{ New Hampshire} I want to invite all to our flyin campin 7/9/05 to 7/16/05 USUA signature event http://www.mv.com/ipusers/hetcon/ Bill Wheet Pres. Yankee Ultralight Flyers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hi KOLBERS > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > Welcome aboard. You'll like it. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > FSII N582EF > > do not archive > > At 01:26 PM 5/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Wheet" <wheet@metrocast.net> >> >>Though I would jump in and say I was a kitfox driver but sold it today >>SOON to be a kolb driver >>Buying a Firestar II >>I understand they go up hill better than a fox! >>Bill >> >> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:04:26 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIc Update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Tch, tch ! ! ! You gotta belieeeeeve............. :-) Do not Archive. P.S. Shoulda stayed home and worked on Vamoose. Got blown outa the water in Mexico - big windstorm. Sigh. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Redrive VW powered MKIIIc Update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> > > Yeah yeah yeah same song and dance. Seeing is believing Old Bud. > > > I'm leaving for on Wed. I'll install >> them next weekend, and have that thing running and fly-able by MV ! ! ! >> Won't be fly-ing, but............... Lar. >> Do not Archive. >> > > >




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