Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/15/05


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 01:35 AM - Transparenz ist das Mindeste (skyrider2@earthlink.net)
     2. 02:12 AM - Re: Firestar 2 Vortex Generator Tests (David L. Bigelow)
     3. 03:42 AM - Gegen das Vergessen (by0ung@brigham.net)
     4. 05:18 AM - up or down pressure on tail? (Airgriff2@AOL.com)
     5. 06:19 AM - Blutige Selbstjustiz (eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com)
     6. 07:32 AM - Re: up or down pressure on tail? (Larry Bourne)
     7. 07:34 AM - Re: Transparenz ist das Mindeste (Larry Bourne)
     8. 08:01 AM - Re: Gegen das Vergessen (WillUribe@aol.com)
     9. 08:55 AM - Dresden 1945 (rrhoyt@ieee.org)
    10. 10:56 AM - Re: Gegen das Vergessen (Larry Bourne)
    11. 01:11 PM - Re: [SPAM]up or down pressure on tail? (George Bass)
    12. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Firestar 2 Vortex Generator Tests (Richard Pike)
    13. 08:41 PM - Re: Transparenz ist das Mindeste (Cory Emberson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:35:45 AM PST US
    From: skyrider2@earthlink.net
    Subject: Transparenz ist das Mindeste
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: skyrider2@earthlink.net Lese selbst: http://www.npd.de/npd_info/deutschland/2005/d0405-39.html


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    Time: 02:12:20 AM PST US
    From: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Firestar 2 Vortex Generator Tests
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> Richard, I think raising the LE of the horizontal stabilizer is a better solution than adding weight to the nose. How did you handle the hardware aspects of that modification? I looked at the brackets, and couldn't see an easy way to do it. Also, the stock Firestar is almost neutral in pitch stability. Did you notice any difference in pitch stability after the modification? Dave Bigelow FS2 Kamuela, Hawaii "And instead of putting lead weights in the nose - we raised the front stabilizer mount attach point about 3/4"


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    Time: 03:42:29 AM PST US
    From: by0ung@brigham.net
    Subject: Gegen das Vergessen
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: by0ung@brigham.net In den fruehen Abendstunden des 13. Februar 1945 gegen 21:41 Uhr heulten die Sirenen der Lazarettstadt Dresden das erste mal auf. Die Bewohner der Elbmetropole machten sich zu der Zeit noch keine Sorgen, da Dresden als Stadt ohne Bewaffnung und ohne militaerischen Nutzen bekannt war und von ca. 1,2 Millionen Frauen, Kindern und Greisen bewohnt wurde. Gegen 22:09 Uhr gab der Rundfunk durch, da die alliierten Bomberverbaende ihren Kurs geaendert haben und nun auf Dresden zufliegen. Kurz darauf befanden sich 244 britische Bomber am Himmel der deutschen Kulturstadt. Drei Stunden nach dieser ersten Angriffswelle - es befanden sich bereits alle verfuegbaren Rettungsmannschaften, Sanitaeter und Feuerwehmaenner in Dresden - verdunkelten weitere 500 Bomber den Himmel. Am naechsten Tag folgte die letzte Angriffswelle mit erneut 300 US-B-17-Bombern. Zwischen 12:12 Uhr und 12:21 Uhr warfen diese 783 Tonnen Bomben ab. - Das entspricht mehr als 85 Tonnen pro Minute. Nach dem Abwerfen setzten die US-Bomber zum Tiefflug an und beschossen Fluechtende mit ihren Bordwaffen. In diesen drei Angriffsschlaegen, die insgesamt 14 Stunden andauerten, warfen die "Befreier" 650.000 Brandbomben und 200.000 Sprengbomben ab, welche einen Feuersturm von ueber 1000 Grad in der Stadt erzeugten. Obwohl Dresden weder Flugabwehr, noch Ruestungsindustrie oder aehnliche kriegswichtige Ziele besass wurden weit mehr als 350.000 unschuldige deutsche Zivilisten in diesen zwei Tagen kaltbluetig ermordet. Keiner der schuldigen Alliierten wurde jemals fuer dieses brutale Kriegsverbrechen auch nur angeklagt und die Massenmedien und die bundesdeutsche Regierung schweigen diese Taten tot und sehen es nicht als noetig an den Opfern zu gedenken.!


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    Time: 05:18:29 AM PST US
    From: Airgriff2@AOL.com
    Subject: up or down pressure on tail?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com I was wondering , in straight & level flight, is the pressure up on the horizontal stabilizer or pushing down? I was interested in knowing if the upper or lower flying cables handles the most strain. Fly Safe Bob Griffin


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    Time: 06:19:45 AM PST US
    From: eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com
    Subject: Blutige Selbstjustiz
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com Polizeiexperten warnen: Ethnisch abgeschottete Mafia-Clans sind kaum noch zu durchdringen. Die Gerichte tragen Mitschuld. Weiter auf: http://www.libasoli.de/2004/ethnoclans%20spiegel50_04.html


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    Time: 07:32:50 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: up or down pressure on tail?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Pushing down. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Airgriff2@aol.com> Subject: Kolb-List: up or down pressure on tail? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > I was wondering , in straight & level flight, is the pressure up on the > horizontal stabilizer or pushing down? I was interested in knowing if the > upper or > lower flying cables handles the most strain. > Fly Safe > Bob Griffin > > >


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    Time: 07:34:17 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Transparenz ist das Mindeste
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> 3 of these this morning ?? What's going on ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <skyrider2@earthlink.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Transparenz ist das Mindeste > --> Kolb-List message posted by: skyrider2@earthlink.net > > Lese selbst: > http://www.npd.de/npd_info/deutschland/2005/d0405-39.html > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:01:20 AM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: Gegen das Vergessen
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com It's just propaganda, looks like someone is trying to rewrite history. It's a good think I watch the history channel. http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,341230,00.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transparenz ist das Mindeste --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> 3 of these this morning ?? What's going on ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com


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    Time: 08:55:38 AM PST US
    From: rrhoyt@ieee.org
    Subject: Dresden 1945
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: rrhoyt@ieee.org Lese selbst: http://www.kommunisten-online.de/blackchanel/dresden3.htm


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    Time: 10:56:13 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Gegen das Vergessen
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> I dunno, Will. There's another one on there now from rrhoyt@ieee.org. to the Kolb List. Don't sound familiar to me, and it's about Dresden 1945. Don't think I'll open it. I do know the spammers have a way of sending their trash and showing it to be from my own address, so there's no way to block them. This might be the same type of thing. What a pain. When are you leaving for MV ?? I'm not giving up quite yet........if I can get just next Sunday off, I'll zoom up for 1 day. Another pain. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <WillUribe@aol.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Gegen das Vergessen > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > It's just propaganda, looks like someone is trying to rewrite history. > It's a > good think I watch the history channel. > http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,341230,00.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transparenz ist das Mindeste > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > 3 of these this morning ?? What's going on ?? Do not > Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > >


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    Time: 01:11:03 PM PST US
    From: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: up or down pressure on tail?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net> One of the most descriptive images of this can be found by viewing a profile of a Zenair CH 701. The "lift" is created on the UNDER-side of the horizontal stabilizer. George


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    Time: 03:06:07 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Firestar 2 Vortex Generator Tests
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Your question prodded me to add another page to the FSII Tweaks and Hints page, here are some pictures of how we modded the front brackets to raise the stab. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSIIelevatorbracket.html Pitch stability? Firestars have pitch stability? Wow... <grin> Yes, it still has some stability. Some. With the extra dihedral it has, it will fly hands off no problem. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 11:11 PM 5/14/2005 -1000, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> > >Richard, > >I think raising the LE of the horizontal stabilizer is a better solution >than adding weight to the nose. How did you handle the hardware aspects >of that modification? I looked at the brackets, and couldn't see an easy >way to do it. > >Also, the stock Firestar is almost neutral in pitch stability. Did you >notice any difference in pitch stability after the modification? > >Dave Bigelow >FS2 >Kamuela, Hawaii > >"And instead of putting lead weights in the nose - we raised the front >stabilizer mount attach point about 3/4" > >


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    Time: 08:41:39 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Transparenz ist das Mindeste
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> I was wondering that myself! Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transparenz ist das Mindeste --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> 3 of these this morning ?? What's going on ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <skyrider2@earthlink.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Transparenz ist das Mindeste > --> Kolb-List message posted by: skyrider2@earthlink.net > > Lese selbst: > http://www.npd.de/npd_info/deutschland/2005/d0405-39.html > > > > > > > >




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