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1. 06:18 AM - message not from me (b young)
2. 06:27 AM - Re: message not from me (John Hauck)
3. 08:53 AM - Re: message not from me (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 03:41 PM - Firefly spinning beahavior (kevin-jones)
5. 04:46 PM - Re: Firefly spinning beahavior (Beauford)
6. 05:34 PM - Kolbra strutss (Wayne T. McCullough)
7. 06:03 PM - Re: Firefly spinning be(a)havior (Bob N.)
8. 11:08 PM - Re: Kolbra strut covers (The Kuffels)
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| Subject: | message not from me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
i dont know what is happening...... but this message was not from me.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: by0ung@brigham.net
In den fruehen Abendstunden des 13. Februar 1945 gegen 21:41 Uhr
heulten die Sirenen der Lazarettstadt Dresden das erste mal auf. Die Bewohner der
Elbmetropole machten sich zu der Zeit noch keine Sorgen, da Dresden als Stadt
ohne Bewaffnung und ohne militaerischen Nutzen bekannt war und von ca. 1,2
Millionen Frauen, Kindern und Greisen bewohnt wurde.
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| Subject: | Re: message not from me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
me.
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| --> Kolb-List message posted by: by0ung@brigham.net
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| In den fruehen Abendstunden des 13. Februar 1945 gegen 21:41 Uhr
Morning Boyd/All:
Same here. Sounds like some German critter has abscounded with the
email list from Matronics, then executed a mass mailing.
I got four msgs from some operation saying my msgs to the Kolb List
could not be sent. I did not send any.
Checked my computers for virus, but came out clean.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: message not from me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
in addition to getting the German emails I also got one from my friend at
Nextel. Called him today and he has a bunch on German ones. He is not on the Kolb
list. Either I am the source from him or he is getting this stuff from me
via the List.
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| Subject: | Firefly spinning beahavior |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
At long last I have a Kolb aircraft. It is a firefly which I bought from Ed
Reilly. I am going to give it a try soon. When I take a plane up for the first
time it is my practice to try a few stalls. Usually I have plenty of people
to ask but this time I don't. So I go to the source. How does the Firefly stall?
Does it try to spin? Is there any difficulty getting it out of a spin? What
should I know?
Kevin Jones
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly spinning beahavior |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Brother Jones...
Re: your spin fetish...
All I can address is my own machine... FF #076...
Yessir, it will certainly spin with great gusto if pushed... I tried it in
both directions, just for curiosity's sake... that little machine will wrap
right up if left to its' own devices...
Recovery for my kite was conventional ... release back pressure and apply
opposite rudder....
It stopped rotation in one half of one turn and resumed normal aviation in a
second or two...
My amateur observations: I had to force it to spin... it did not have a
proclivity for spinning, but had to be enticed to do so... It quit the
business immediately when offered an opportunity.
My curiosity was fully satisfied...
I wish you well in your experimentation drills... Keep track of the surface,
sir.... it tends to be spectacularly unforgiving of miscalculation...
As far as the remainder of what you should know.... buy low... sell high...
Worth what you paid for it...
Best Regards,
Beauford of Brandon, FL
FF# 076
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----- Original Message -----
From: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly spinning beahavior
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
>
> At long last I have a Kolb aircraft. It is a firefly which I bought
> from Ed Reilly. I am going to give it a try soon. When I take a plane up
> for the first time it is my practice to try a few stalls. Usually I have
> plenty of people to ask but this time I don't. So I go to the source. How
> does the Firefly stall? Does it try to spin? Is there any difficulty
> getting it out of a spin? What should I know?
> Kevin Jones
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
Gentlemen,
On the subject of strut covers ......the streamlined ones ...should they be
lined up with the horizontal stabilizer....
We just did a Hawk and that was what the factory recommended....
Any Mark 3 guys out there or anyone who has done this...
Thanks,
Wayne McCullough
Kolbra # 4
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From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly spinning beahavior
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Brother Jones...
> Re: your spin fetish...
>
> All I can address is my own machine... FF #076...
> Yessir, it will certainly spin with great gusto if pushed... I tried it in
> both directions, just for curiosity's sake... that little machine will
> wrap
> right up if left to its' own devices...
>
> Recovery for my kite was conventional ... release back pressure and apply
> opposite rudder....
> It stopped rotation in one half of one turn and resumed normal aviation in
> a
> second or two...
> My amateur observations: I had to force it to spin... it did not have a
> proclivity for spinning, but had to be enticed to do so... It quit the
> business immediately when offered an opportunity.
>
> My curiosity was fully satisfied...
>
> I wish you well in your experimentation drills... Keep track of the
> surface,
> sir.... it tends to be spectacularly unforgiving of miscalculation...
>
> As far as the remainder of what you should know.... buy low... sell
> high...
>
> Worth what you paid for it...
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Beauford of Brandon, FL
> FF# 076
> Do Not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly spinning beahavior
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
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>> At long last I have a Kolb aircraft. It is a firefly which I bought
>> from Ed Reilly. I am going to give it a try soon. When I take a plane up
>> for the first time it is my practice to try a few stalls. Usually I have
>> plenty of people to ask but this time I don't. So I go to the source. How
>> does the Firefly stall? Does it try to spin? Is there any difficulty
>> getting it out of a spin? What should I know?
>> Kevin Jones
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly spinning be(a)havior |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Friend Johns,
My Great Silver Bird, FireFly #070, does not spin without provocation.
When provoked enough, it will spin nicely, and after 5-6 turns, settles
down to just spinning without going flat or other nastiness. Conversely,
it will quit/recover with the usual stick stab fwd and rudder stab. Or,
just let the horse have its head by getting off the controls, and she'll
come out by herself...given enough more alt.
This a great little bug, almost a Pocket Rocket. If you don't like a FF,
get a PPC!
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra strut covers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Wayne,
<<strut covers .. streamlined ones ...should they be
lined up with the horizontal stabilizer .. what the factory recommended>>
Not an expert on this so I'd ask the people who have covers which can
rotate around the tube struts where they fair in cruse.
Lacking an answer my logic would say: The bottom of a Kolb wing at
cruse is at several degrees to the relative wind. Thus for the covers
to be parallel to the relative wind their trailing edges must be up
(relative to the bottom of the wing) by the same several degrees. The
tail may be about the same correct angle because even though it is at a
negative angle of attack to generate its balancing downforce it is
flying in the downwash of the main wing. Still, I'd use the bottom of
the wing for reference, it's easier to measure.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
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