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1. 09:58 AM - Firefly guys... (Jeremy Casey)
2. 12:14 PM - Re: Firefly guys... (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 05:40 PM - Fatal crash near Mobile, AL (Comcast)
4. 06:26 PM - aileron spades (jimmy and jo ann)
5. 07:03 PM - MV Update (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:35 PM - Re: Fatal crash near Mobile, AL (Rusty)
7. 07:43 PM - Re: aileron spades (Richard Pike)
8. 09:34 PM - Re: MV Update (Larry Cottrell)
9. 09:47 PM - Re: MV Update (Larry Bourne)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
The "why" for this question is kinda long, but I would like to know a
couple of measurements from a Firefly. First would be the distance from
the bolt at the fuselage H-section to the rear end of the tube. Second
would be the distance from the inboard face of the inboard steel rib to
the H-section bolt. Also what is the actual end-end length of the wing?
(Figuring approx. 10'2.)
Thanks a ton.
Jeremy Casey
KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
jeremy@kilocharlie.us
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly guys... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 5/18/2005 12:58:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
n79rt@kilocharlie.us writes:
>
> The "why" for this question is kinda long, but I would like to know a
> couple of measurements from a Firefly. First would be the distance from
> the bolt at the fuselage H-section to the rear end of the tube. Second
> would be the distance from the inboard face of the inboard steel rib to
> the H-section bolt. Also what is the actual end-end length of the wing?
> (Figuring approx. 10'2.)
>
> Thanks a ton.
>
> Jeremy Casey
>
First would be the distance from
the bolt at the fuselage H-section to the rear end of the tube. 114.5"
Second
would be the distance from the inboard face of the inboard steel rib to
the H-section bolt. 44" (inboard face to CL of bolt) Note, The Firefly
does not have a wing H-section ala Firestar or MK III. but I used the mount bolt
of the Aft strut.
Also what is the actual end-end length of the wing?
(Figuring approx. 10'2.) 123" (inboard face of rib to wing tip)
Steve Boetto
FF #007 Old Kolb
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| Subject: | Fatal crash near Mobile, AL |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Comcast <davis207@comcast.net>
Talking to my dad In Mobile, Al, today, and he mentioned a crash in St
Elmo, south west of Mobile. I know there are some Kolber's in the area,
but it looks like a canard type aircraft. (Based on a different web site)
On another note, I am closing next week on a house in Malvern, PA, next
to Phoenixville. Should anyone desire a place to sleep while attending
the Kolb Home Coming at Homer's drop me a line off list.
Chuck Davis
FF 028
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From WKRG.Com
Authorities have indentified the pilot killed in a plane crash in St.
Elmo Monday afternoon.
He's 57 year old Paul Conner of Grand Bay.
Mobile County Sheriff's Deputies got a call right before 4:00 of a
paought ne crash west of R.P.Crigler, Senior Aeroplex in St. Elmo.
Christina Bowersox with the Mobile County Sheriff's Department says, "An
experimental aircraft upon takeoff crashed into a heavy wooded area."
Deputies brought in a county pbulic works crew to get to the scene.
Bowersox says, "They brought in some equipment like little machetes and
little chainsaws and a chipper and cleared a path to the site."
The pilot, 57 year old Paul Conner, was killed.
Deputies say he was an experienced pilot who retired from the Army and
owned the plane.
Other pilots at the airport didn't want to talk.
People who live in the area came to the crash site to offer their help.
Darryl Vonsahlo of Grand Bay says, "We just came to offer to use a
"bobcat" with a brush cutter to go in and brush cut to them, but they
got some help already so they don't need it."
June McLendon lives in a trailer home with her grandmother near the
crash on the west side of the airport.
She says her grandmother has worried about planes taking off and landing
at the airport.
McLendon says, "She's scared of those planes, she's so worried that
they're going to come over the trailer one day and hit."
Investigators don't know what caused the crash.
Officials with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal
Aviation Administration have been on the scene investigating.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimmy and jo ann" <hillstw@jhill.biz>
Will try this again; my last try evidently did not go out. Have any of you tried
spades on the kolb ailerons? I have changed the leverage on my bellcrank on
FSII, but ailerons still seem heavy--and not very responsive.
If so, what improvement do you get, and what is the consensus on structural integrity
of our ailerons with spades?
Thanks.
Jimmy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sometimes it pays to be Mr. Good Guy after all. Once in a while. In spite of
the old "good guys finish last" mantra. Today at lunch, I mentioned to the other
guys that I'm going to MV in spite of everything, and will be back on Sun.
for my regular swing shift. One of the others finished up his lunch and about
5 minutes later said, "you know, for years, every time there's a holiday, you
worked for us so we could be with our families, and if we needed a day off you
always covered us..........so now it's my turn. Let me call my wife and see
if we can cancel our plans on Sunday night." (I work swing shift on Sundays
and Mondays) He did, she OK'ed it, and so I'll work the following Sat for him
and give him a long weekend. In return, I'll be able to spend an extra day
at MV. Now, THAT makes me feel good. :-) Boss kinda hung his head, and said
that I could leave early tomorrow if I like. Yah, I like. HeeeCom..........!
! ! Ecstatic Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Fatal crash near Mobile, AL |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Talking to my dad In Mobile, Al, today, and he mentioned a crash in St
Elmo, south west of Mobile. I know there are some Kolber's in the area,
but it looks like a canard type aircraft. (Based on a different web site)
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The aircraft was a Mazda 13B powered SQ2000, built and flown by Paul Conner.
He was a regular on the rotary list, and a hell of a nice guy. I almost
flew over to surprise him with another visit last Saturday, but didn't. I
figured I'd have plenty of opportunities... I was wrong :-(
Rusty
Mazda 13B rotary powered RV-3 (flying)
Kolb Slingshot (Mazda single rotor project)
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: aileron spades |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Before you go to the trouble of spades - try leading into your turns with a
lot more rudder. The FSII likes that and seems to respond quicker if you
treat it as a rudder first airplane. Once you lead with rudder and then
follow with the ailerons, it becomes a lot more responsive.
As far as using spades - something I have noticed is that the inboard half
of the aileron tube torques when you try and use a lot of aileron. Next
time you fly, watch one of the ailerons while you cram the stick over as
far as it will go. The aileron hardly moves - the tube is twisting. So if
you decide to try spades, be careful. I am not sure the aileron tubes are
up to what might happen if the spades decided they wanted to run the show.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 08:24 PM 5/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimmy and jo ann" <hillstw@jhill.biz>
>
>Will try this again; my last try evidently did not go out. Have any of
>you tried spades on the kolb ailerons? I have changed the leverage on my
>bellcrank on FSII, but ailerons still seem heavy--and not very responsive.
>If so, what improvement do you get, and what is the consensus on
>structural integrity of our ailerons with spades?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jimmy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Good for you Larry, they say "even a blind hog finds an acorn every once and
a while" Enjoy!
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MV Update
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
See ya there. :-) Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV Update
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Good for you Larry, they say "even a blind hog finds an acorn every once
> and
> a while" Enjoy!
> Larry, Oregon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: MV Update
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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