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1. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Cross Country cruise RPM (Richard Pike)
2. 11:34 AM - 912 muffler (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
3. 12:59 PM - Re: Firestar cross-country (John Jung)
4. 04:27 PM - 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? (John Jung)
5. 04:27 PM - Re: Density-altitude (John Jung)
6. 07:16 PM - Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? (russ kinne)
7. 08:44 PM - Hey ;) (Ellery Batchelder)
8. 10:43 PM - Capacitance fuel senders (John Jung)
9. 10:43 PM - Re: Monument Valley (George E. Thompson)
10. 10:44 PM - Stuck rings (Edward Steuber)
11. 10:52 PM - Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? (robert bean)
12. 11:03 PM - Re: boyd has landed (b young)
13. 11:17 PM - Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? (HShack@aol.com)
14. 11:17 PM - Re: Density-altitude (John Jung)
15. 11:29 PM - Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country cruise RPM |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
For comparison, Ed & I went airstrip hopping for a couple hours Saturday,
me in the 582 poweredMKIII, and he was flying the 582 powered FSII, both of
us using 2 blade, 68" Ivo's. Both of us were running about the same, 52 -
5,300 rpm and about 62 mph. Altitude typically 2,500 msl, temp low 70's.
That gave us both a fuel burn of 6 gallons for 1.8 hours, or about 3.2 gph.
And on a somewhat related note, while we were at the Lumberton Fly-in May
14th, spent about an hour talking to the owner of D & F Aviation, Rotax
dealer in Goldsboro, and he mentioned that Rotax was considering coming out
with a revised overhaul schedule for 582's and 503's which are normally
operated at less than 75% power, or less than 5,500 rpm. The new time
between overhaul would be every 450 hours instead of 300 hours. If there is
any way of verifying this, and if it is true, that drastically reduces the
cost of operating a Rotax 2-stroke.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (42oldPoops)
At 07:52 PM 5/23/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
>Bill and Group,
>
>I cruised at 5,800 on this trip. That gave me an indicated airspeed up
>to 60-65 mph, and a true airspeed of 64-69. The average altitude on
>this trip was about 7,000 and density altitude went as high as 10,500.
>A lot of the state was setting record high temperatures on the day of
>my return. So the numbers are not really normal.
>
>John Jung
>Firestar II 503 DCDI
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05/24/2005 01:42:39 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
Craig and others at MV expressed some interest in the muffler for the 912
engine.
Here is the web site for it:
http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_002.htm
regards
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar cross-country |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Mike and Group,
>was that 2" of Memory Foam on the seat and back or just seat??
I used memory foam on just the seat. The backrest has the Kolb mesh and
open cell foam, shaped for some arch support.
John Jung
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| Subject: | 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
After seeing the Kolbs that flew into MV, I get ideas of how I'd like
to change my Firestar. One is tires. I have 6.00 X 6.00s and they do
the job fine but the 8.00 X 6.00s look better. So I checked into them
and they seem to cost about $100 each for the tires plus more for the
tubes. That's more than double what the 6 X 6's cost. Is that just it,
or am I just not finding the best source?
John Jung
Firestar II
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| Subject: | RE: Density-altitude |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Larry and Group,
>How was the trip home ?? Several of us discussed what
you were likely to run into, and I'd be curious as to what the flight
really was like. I would guess that you hit a lot of wind, so how did
your fuel capacity work out ??
I averaged 5 mph head winds. Not bad, but it caused me to make an
extra stop to pour in 3 gallons of fuel from the tank in the back seat.
The only problem was that the thermals continued to grow as the day
went on. By noon they were as violent as any I have ever flown in. I
kind of decided that I am done with middle of the day flying until
things cool of next fall.
John Jung
Firestar II 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
John
FWIW I used 8x6's for years on my Cessna, don't recall any huge price
difference from the 6x6's. Bought from Dresser & others advertising in
Trade-A-Plane
Used lower pressure for dirt/grass, pumpt up a little for
asphalt/concrete.
Russ Kinne
do not archive
On May 24, 2005, at 3:14 PM, John Jung wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> After seeing the Kolbs that flew into MV, I get ideas of how I'd like
> to change my Firestar. One is tires. I have 6.00 X 6.00s and they do
> the job fine but the 8.00 X 6.00s look better. So I checked into them
> and they seem to cost about $100 each for the tires plus more for the
> tubes. That's more than double what the 6 X 6's cost. Is that just it,
> or am I just not finding the best source?
>
> John Jung
> Firestar II
>
>
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| Subject: | Capacitance fuel senders |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
I learned another thing last weekend. 100LL and auto fuel do not
indicate the same with a capacitance fuel sender. With my tank full of
100LL, the EIS indicates 4.9 gallons. When full with auto gas, it reads
5.2 gallons. Not a big error, but just another thing to be aware of.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I stayed with Az Dave and wife in his BAM. I drove up to MV because I had to
get back to attend to business.Dave and I with his wife had just returned
from a trip to the Czech Republic. Why would anyone go to the Czech Republic
you may ask. Well it turned out that My 16th Armored Division under General
George S.Patton was the very first Allied troupes and tanks into Plisen the
second largest city in the area. So this all happened 60 years ago in 1945,
The Czech Government invited all us old Vets to come back and help celebrate
the 60th university of there Liberation. Unfortunately only 15 from our
Division were able to make the trip. Fortunately I was one of them. Anyway,
we each got a nice 60th Liberation medal from the President himself. Also
went on over to Prague where the Mayor gave each of us a Gold medal. There
you have it in a nutshell.
Boring to some, interesting to others.
Az. Bald Eagle
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Where is everybody ?? I know the whole Kolb List wasn't at MV. :-)
>
> I think John W. told me he'd logged 26 people by Saturday afternoon. He
> and several
> others - John H., Boyd Young and Jim Hefner - are up in Canyonlands, near
> Moab, Utah now, and from there will be going to the Alvord Desert in
> Southern Oregon to meet Larry Cottrell, so we won't be hearing from them
> for a while. I didn't do a real count of the planes there, but for sure
> there were a Mooney, Dave Rains' Cessna C175, and about 12 - 15 Kolbs. It
> was quite a flight line. A very nice group, and it was relaxing, but
> intense. A lot of activity in a short time. Flying started nearly at
> dawn for some, while others of us eased into breakfast at the excellent
> restaurant at Goulding's before taking to the air. By about 10:00 AM the
> wind came up, the sun got hot, and everyone hid under the awnings of the
> RV's, and under airplane wings............and put on their hip boots.
> Late in the afternoon, the wind pretty much died down, and flying started
> again. This time, more flights were made up to the Mexican Hat area and
> the horseshoes of the San Juan River, about 20 !
> miles north of MV. Previously, most flights went east, over Monument
> Valley. The 2 areas are a world apart in scenery, and both spectacular.
> I arrived at MV at around 11:00 AM Friday, and was surprised to see that
> many folks were already there. It got an early start this year, but ended
> a bit early, too, with most leaving Sunday, instead of Monday, as last
> year. What a great way to spend a weekend. (All that in only a weekend
> ?? Amazing ! ! ! ) In a while, I'll post some pictures.......possibly
> even today. :-) It was quite a shock yesterday, coming from ~80 deg.
> weather there, to 111 deg here in the desert. Oh well..........back to
> reality today. Big Lar. Do not
> Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
I had a problem starting my Cuyuna UL202 and found it had low compression
on both cylinders . It only had 30 hours since the cylinders had been rehoned
because they were too tight with the pistons. The clearance before was .003(too
tight) and after .007(correct) but the paperwork from the shop does not say
anything about cleaning or inspecting the ring lands. I was told that many
of the original Cuyuna's were sent from the factory with incorrect tight piston
clearance that caused many failures . This engine had already been repaired
once because it has the .010 pistons . Upon dissassembly I found both rings on
one piston were stuck and one on the other. I believe they were overlooked and
reassembled. But there is one question I need answering.... The pistons are
.010 Wiseco's that are different from the standard Cuyuna pistons in that they
have much thinner rings.........could these sticking rings have been caused in
such a short time by this ring-piston combination ? The thinner rings have to
run hotter...I have been using the same 2cycle Pennzoil air-cooled oil and Mobil
premium fuel with similar temps as the last Cuyuna UL 202 that I operated
on another Ultrastar I flew for 100 hours with no trouble. I use a 40 to 1 oil
mix as the book says and my egt temps were about 1150 with the lower compression
cylinder (pto) running about 30 degrees hotter...I was told by a parts supplier
that the Wiseco piston is an after-market alternative and not as good as
the originals because they run hotter.
Any of you experienced Cuyuna drivers have any info on this problem ?
Since cleaning the carbon out and reassembly this engine has really good compression
now ...I am looking forward to flying it with the new found power...it
has to make a difference. What can I expect from these pistons in the future ?
I know there may be some on the list that might have poor opinions of
the Cuyuna's.... but all comments will be appreciated...
carboned-up ED in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Try Desser Tire, starting on page 21:
http://shop.desser.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit
-BB, MkIIIc, N3851E, a good tire is one that holds air
On 24, May 2005, at 3:14 PM, John Jung wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> After seeing the Kolbs that flew into MV, I get ideas of how I'd like
> to change my Firestar. One is tires. I have 6.00 X 6.00s and they do
> the job fine but the 8.00 X 6.00s look better. So I checked into them
> and they seem to cost about $100 each for the tires plus more for the
> tubes. That's more than double what the 6 X 6's cost. Is that just it,
> or am I just not finding the best source?
>
> John Jung
> Firestar II
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: boyd has landed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
kolbers
boyd has landed from the trip to mv... ( sunday nigit) ..... after
getting a bit sunburnt saturday..... i decided not to hang around moab /
canyonlands. instead i fuled up and headed for home so i did not have to
stand around in the heat...... sorry john, john, and jim.... the trip
home was about 5 1/2 hours of flight time according to the gps....... with
fuel stops it added another hour or so.... the air was a lot smother than
last year, and to avoid the heat and bumps, i went up to 9500 ft since i
had flown the route low to the deck on multiple other trips.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 5/24/2005 10:05:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jrjungjr@yahoo.com writes:
After seeing the Kolbs that flew into MV, I get ideas of how I'd like
to change my Firestar. One is tires. I have 6.00 X 6.00s and they do
the job fine but the 8.00 X 6.00s look better. So I checked into them
and they seem to cost about $100 each for the tires plus more for the
tubes. That's more than double what the 6 X 6's cost. Is that just it,
or am I just not finding the best source?
Check out the California Power Systems catalogue.
We just bought a couple "bush plane " tires & tubes from them. Don't have
the cat. in front of me, but seems they were 8.00 X 6 at about $54 ea. plus
about $20 for the tube.
If you want, I can look up the part #'s tomorrow.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Density-altitude |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Larry and Group,
>How was the trip home ?? Several of us discussed what
you were likely to run into, and I'd be curious as to what the flight
really
was like. I would guess that you hit a lot of wind, so how did your
fuel
capacity work out ??
I averaged 5 mph head winds. Not bad, but it caused me to make an
extra stop to pour in 3 gallons of fuel from the tank in the back seat.
The only problem was that the thermals continued to grow as the day
went on. By noon they were as violent as any I have ever flown in. I
kind of decided that I am done with middle of the day flying until
things cool of next fall.
John Jung
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| Subject: | Re: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
John,
I use Carlisle 8.00 X 6.00 Turf Glide tires I bought from a local tire
dealer (he ordered em), they where less than $25 each, Olenick aviation also
sells them for a little more than that if you can't locate them locally.
Also, John H swears by Aero Trainers by McCreary (At least I think thats the
ones) Aircraft spruce lists the 6.00X 6 for $34 each, but I don't see 8.00
listed, maybe I have the wrong name here? Anyway, the turf glides shake a
little after lift off, but the price is right and they look great, also can
handle plenty of weight as I see them on many much heavier planes than my
Mk-3, such as Rans, and Zenairs. Also the tubes from my local guy were $6
each, pretty good prices for such beefy tires and tubes.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: 8.00 X 6.00 tire costs?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> After seeing the Kolbs that flew into MV, I get ideas of how I'd like
> to change my Firestar. One is tires. I have 6.00 X 6.00s and they do
> the job fine but the 8.00 X 6.00s look better. So I checked into them
> and they seem to cost about $100 each for the tires plus more for the
> tubes. That's more than double what the 6 X 6's cost. Is that just it,
> or am I just not finding the best source?
>
> John Jung
> Firestar II
>
>
>
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