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1. 02:39 AM - Re: UltraStar crash (PATRICK LADD)
2. 03:08 AM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (PATRICK LADD)
3. 05:03 AM - Re: 503 jetting (Richard Pike)
4. 07:09 AM - ultrastar fatality photo (Scott Perkins)
5. 07:47 AM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (John Hauck)
6. 08:50 AM - Re: UltraStar crash (Larry Bourne)
7. 09:10 AM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (Larry Bourne)
8. 09:24 AM - Re: ultrastar fatality photo (Larry Bourne)
9. 11:36 AM - Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release (Kirk Smith)
10. 11:52 AM - Re: Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release (George E. Thompson)
11. 12:15 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
12. 01:09 PM - Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (John Hauck)
13. 01:13 PM - Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) (John Hauck)
14. 01:21 PM - MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (still continuing) (John Hauck)
15. 01:39 PM - Re: Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) (Larry Bourne)
16. 01:47 PM - Re: Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) (John Hauck)
17. 03:38 PM - Re: Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release (snuffy@usol.com)
18. 06:18 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (Kolbdriver)
19. 07:54 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (possums)
20. 07:54 PM - Re: Hanger And Hauling (woody)
21. 08:09 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
22. 08:19 PM - Re: MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (still continuing) (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
23. 08:41 PM - Kolb Database and MV (dama)
24. 10:36 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
might have seen an optical illusion so to speak. >>
Hi Ray,
I wouldn`t comment on the rest of your interesting post but I would suggest
caution about what someone `probably saw` , `looked like a model` etc.,
Many years ago some twit from the local model flying club, with whom we
shared the airfield, flew a radio controlled model past me while I was
thermalling over the field. It may have been only an 24 " span model but I
assure you that as it flashed over my canopy it looke like a 747.
Scared the living daylights out of me.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
importance of supporting the boom tube>>
Hi All,
Larry`s post interested me. Is this a real or a perceived problem? That
boom tube looks pretty tough to me and as the mainspar is made from to same
spec. I do not like the idea that any of those tubes could fail through
trailering.
Unless you were involved in a head on crash or drove over a ditch at high
speed there is no way in which the loads imposed could approach those in a
rough thermal or a hard landing.
Gliders are regularly trailed with wings much longer than ours supported
only on the end of the mainspar and the tip and with the fuselage standing
only on the main and tail wheel.
Supporting stuff so that it doesn`t damage the paintwork is one thing but
having to support the main bits that my life hangs on because it may get
damaged to the point of failure makes me nervous.
Comments?
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
John, I noticed in the CPS catalog that you can get 152 main jets. That
might give you a better margin of safety?
Something I do to avoid excessive EGT's on descent, I wait until I can pull
the power back to about 4,000 or so and come down a bit faster, but the
temps stay more in line.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:42 PM 6/4/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
>Group,
>
>Good news!
>Here is the rest of the jetting story. Today, I flew 4.6 hours at 60
>mph and burned 14.6 gallons, for 3.0 gph or 20 mpg. Two weeks ago,
>before changing jets and in record heat, I burned 4.3 gph at 65 mph, or
>15 mpg.
>Prior to that I had been burning 3.3 gph at 60 and 3.8 at 65.
>
>The 3.0 gph at 60 mph gives a 200 mile range on 10 gallons. The only
>other time that my plane ever got 20 mpg was a flight with a
>Quicksilver at 45 mph.
>
>So the change from recommended jets made at least a 10% reduction in
>fuel burn which is a surprising improvement.
>
>Here is the possible down side. When I was 25 miles from home, I had
>5,000 feet of altitude to lose to get down to pattern altitude. So I
>pulled the throttle back to 5,000 rpm, and started a 200 fpm decent,
>holding about 60 mph. That worked O.K. unless I let the decent increase
>to 400 fpm, because then the EGT's exceeded 1200 degrees. This was not
>a problem, because the EIS's red light let me know immediately. But
>with analog gages, I would not run a Firestar that lean.
>
>For review, the 158 main jets were replaced with 150's and the needle
>jets were lowered on notch -> 10% less fuel.
>
>John Jung
>Surprise, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | ultrastar fatality photo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Perkins <2scott@bellsouth.net>
regarding the structural failure resulting in death last week, here is
an image I was able to carve out of a photo of the specific plane
illustrating a general disregard for condition...
http://vula2.org/images/misc/Tullahoma-airshow05/ultrastar_Pimms_broken_leg.JPG
from here
http://vula2.org/images/misc/Tullahoma-airshow05
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
thing but
| having to support the main bits that my life hangs on because it may
get
| damaged to the point of failure makes me nervous.
|
| Comments?
|
| Cheers
|
| Pat
Pat/Gang:
Trailering and taxiing an airplane are much harder on the structure
than one will ever encounter while flying in the air.
Not hard to get a tail boom in an unserviceable condition by getting
dings and dimples from mishandling while trailering. Rough roads,
improperly securing the airplane on the trailer, will readily render
it unserviceable.
Don't think I would lose too much sleep over a 6" round spar failing
in flight. I doubt any of us club fisted pilots could figure out a
way to cause a failure other than sawing it in two.
john h
MKIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
..........and I'll bet you had a few well-chosen words for that idiot when
you returned to the field, eh ?? Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: UltraStar crash
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> might have seen an optical illusion so to speak. >>
>
> Hi Ray,
> I wouldn`t comment on the rest of your interesting post but I would
> suggest
> caution about what someone `probably saw` , `looked like a model` etc.,
> Many years ago some twit from the local model flying club, with whom we
> shared the airfield, flew a radio controlled model past me while I was
> thermalling over the field. It may have been only an 24 " span model but I
> assure you that as it flashed over my canopy it looke like a 747.
> Scared the living daylights out of me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hi Pat: The spar and boom tube are both plenty strong, but the matching
fittings attached to the tubes are only held on with a few rivets, set into
aluminum. (aluminium ??) :-) Compare that with the strength of the strut
attachment/H-beam. I've trailered boats for 100's of 1,000's of
miles over all kinds of roads in 3 countries over the last 40 years, and
have seen some amazing problems crop up. Just last week, I had $400.00
worth of welding done to my boat trailer after a minor foray into Baja
California, and this was after having an on the spot repair done in San
Felipe during the trip. (I do have pictures for those interested)
When I saw Arizona Dave's setup in his trailer, I instantly saw the
potential benefits of it, and will - without question - install a similar
setup in my trailer. Thank you, Erich Weaver, for coming up with that idea.
Copycat Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> importance of supporting the boom tube>>
>
> Hi All,
> Larry`s post interested me. Is this a real or a perceived problem? That
> boom tube looks pretty tough to me and as the mainspar is made from to
> same
> spec. I do not like the idea that any of those tubes could fail through
> trailering.
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| Subject: | Re: ultrastar fatality photo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
General disregard for condition...............?? That guy did that "repair"
?? To an airplane ?? Then flew it ?? Migawd ! ! ! It boggles me mind, it
does. Astonished Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Perkins" <2scott@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: ultrastar fatality photo
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Perkins <2scott@bellsouth.net>
>
>
> regarding the structural failure resulting in death last week, here is
> an image I was able to carve out of a photo of the specific plane
> illustrating a general disregard for condition...
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| Subject: | Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Vietnam veterans of America
27 May 2005
Washington
www.vva.org
(Washington, D.C.) - The Budget Resolution passed by both houses of Congress
will result in staff reductions in every VA Medical Center at a most inauspicious
time=ADas veterans return from the war in Iraq and as increasing numbers of
veterans need care from the system, said Thomas H. Corey, National President
of Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA).
The impact will be significant among those returning troops who suffer from mental
health issues such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), those who have
sustained loss of limbs, and other serious injuries.
In addition to devastating decreases in the availability of care for veterans
that will result from such budget cuts, the VA seems determined to contest even
long-standing disability compensation for PTSD from veterans currently receiving
VA benefits and health care. A recent VA Inspector General's (IG) report
concluded that following a brief review of certain grants of service-connected
benefits for PTSD, the "subjectivity" involved in such determinations has resulted
in over-granting of benefits.
As a result, the VA will be reviewing PTSD grants between 1999 and 2004, with
an eye toward revoking benefits if the claim was adjusted incorrectly. "VVA believes
that the "subjectivity" offered to the IG report is a euphemism for poor
training and quality control of VA adjudication staff.
"We must make it crystal clear to Congress that the budget appropriation for
fiscal year 2006 year is at least $3.5 billion less than what is needed to fund
the VA medical programs adequately," Corey said. "This is a critical time.
Without these resources, veterans will have longer waits to see specialists, much-needed
maintenance will be deferred, and medical equipment will not be purchased.
"Together, through the Partnership for Veterans Health Care Budget Reform veterans
service organizations will demonstrate against these drastic cutbacks. Veterans'
health care is not a welfare program. It is a benefit earned by rendering
honorable service to our country. If we don't act forcefully now, we will
continue to witness the erosion of what was one of the finest health care programs
in the nation."
----------------------------- www.vvic.org (VVIC) www.vetcenter.vvic.org
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I had the pleasure of meeting and shaking his hand of Mr. Nickelson (The
new Secretary of the V. A.) in the Czech Republic on my recent tour. I do
hope that he can do something about this.
Az. Bald Eagle
----- Original Mess
e -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>
> Vietnam veterans of America
> 27 May 2005
> Washington
> www.vva.org
>
>
> (Washington, D.C.) - The Budget Resolution passed by both houses of
> Congress will result in staff reductions in every VA Medical Center at a
> most inauspicious time=ADas veterans return from the war in Iraq and as
> increasing numbers of veterans need care from the system, said Thomas H.
> Corey, National President of Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA).
>
> The impact will be significant among those returning troops who suffer
> from mental health issues such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD),
> those who have sustained loss of limbs, and other serious injuries.
>
>
> In addition to devastating decreases in the availability of care for
> veterans that will result from such budget cuts, the VA seems determined
> to contest even long-standing disability compensation for PTSD from
> veterans currently receiving VA benefits and health care. A recent VA
> Inspector General's (IG) report concluded that following a brief review of
> certain grants of service-connected benefits for PTSD, the "subjectivity"
> involved in such determinations has resulted in over-granting of benefits.
>
> As a result, the VA will be reviewing PTSD grants between 1999 and 2004,
> with an eye toward revoking benefits if the claim was adjusted
> incorrectly. "VVA believes that the "subjectivity" offered to the IG
> report is a euphemism for poor training and quality control of VA
> adjudication staff.
>
> "We must make it crystal clear to Congress that the budget appropriation
> for fiscal year 2006 year is at least $3.5 billion less than what is
> needed to fund the VA medical programs adequately," Corey said. "This is
> a critical time. Without these resources, veterans will have longer waits
> to see specialists, much-needed maintenance will be deferred, and medical
> equipment will not be purchased.
>
> "Together, through the Partnership for Veterans Health Care Budget Reform
> veterans service organizations will demonstrate against these drastic
> cutbacks. Veterans' health care is not a welfare program. It is a benefit
> earned by rendering honorable service to our country. If we don't act
> forcefully now, we will continue to witness the erosion of what was one of
> the finest health care programs in the nation."
>
> ----------------------------- www.vvic.org (VVIC) www.vetcenter.vvic.org
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Patrick,
The straps are there not to support the boom tubes, but to take the
weight off of the wing attachment tubes under the horizontal stabilizers. I
weighed my tail wheel with the wings folded back and it blew me away - 145
lbs. That's a lot of weight to be bouncing down dirt roads with chuck
holes and washboards, so you need to take the weight off of the tail wheel -
that requires some sort of dolly arrangements. Check the archives for some
ideas. I'm becoming an Eric Weaver fan - he's got a great boom wheel.
But, even if you take the weight off of the tail wheel, you still have a
lot of weight (100 lbs???) on the wing attachment tubes that Lar referred
to. Mine are held in place by two rivets. Now just playing around with
numbers, if the tail assy is 45 lbs, that leaves about 50 lbs for each wing
at the attachment tubes. Think of these as 50 lb "hammers" beating down on
those attachment tubes and rivets when you're driving down dirt roads with
lots of washboards. The aluminum rivets that were in the plane when I
bought it soon broke. I replaced them with steel rivets. They elongated
the holes in the boom tube. I replaced these with 3/16th steel rivets, but
then the attachment tube itself broke and we welded it back together. All
of this time I was trying different ways to take the weight of the wings off
of the attachment tubes, but nothing seemed to work well until I saw Erich's
rig. That's where mine came from.
My opinion is that if you are going to trailer your Kolb much at all,
you have to find a way to take the weight of the wings off of the attachment
tubes otherwise you'll have problems. One Kolber has designed a dolly that
does both things, raises the wheels and cradles the wings. I believe that
is also in the archives. Someone else (I think Larry from Oregon) uses a
big inner tube that he inflates under the wihg. Anyway, the strap
arrangement works the best for me.
AzDave
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> importance of supporting the boom tube>>
>
> Hi All,
> Larry`s post interested me. Is this a real or a perceived problem? That
> boom tube looks pretty tough to me and as the mainspar is made from to
> same
> spec. I do not like the idea that any of those tubes could fail through
> trailering.
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| Subject: | Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
To keep this Kolb related, it is a Kolb cross country flight.
Wanted to share a few photos.
Had a great flight. With the exception of the Titan Exhaust pipe
failure, second day out, the MKIII and 912ULS performed flawlessly.
Was able to stay with my flight plan, going and coming. First night
out was Love County Airport, Marietta, OK. It is a 3,000 ft grass
strip with one old Piper Tripacer, that never flies anymore, based
there. Don't know that anyone else ever uses this old, historic site.
I put my MKIII in the empty hanger next to an old, unrestored Allis
Chalmers tractor, sleep on the concrete pad under the nose of the
airplane. On my return flight from Santa Clarita, CA, I also spent
the night right here. Knew there were forecasted thunderstorms that
evening. Sure enough, about midnight, as I lay in my sleeping bag, I
was given the opportunity of experiencing those severe thunderstorms
first hand. Was lucky. Stayed warm and dry through it all:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2669.JPG
After two and a half days of great weather and flying, Monument Valley
was in sight through the bug spattered windshield of the MKIII:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2699.JPG
Taken from the road leading down from the camp ground to the place
where coffee is served at 0700:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2705.JPG
Looking down at the Gouldings Airstrip, Monument Valley, Utah, from
over the 800 ft rock face behind the restaurant and lodge:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2708.JPG
Where we camped in the canyon:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2709.JPG
Photos of Monument Valley taken prior to 0700 and coffee call:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2714.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2720.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2723.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2726.JPG
The high pinnacle, in the shots above, approximately 500 feet tall
from the top of the base structure, was a scene in one of Clint
Eastwood's movies. Flying very closely over this pinnacle gives me
the heebie jeebies, much less standing on top of it. The pinnacle is
not exactly vertical, it leans like the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Shots of Monument Valley and still no coffee:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2730.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2741.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2770.JPG
Sediment ponds at the uranium mine south of Moab, Utah:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2791.JPG
A little Kolb Firefly high over Canyonlands National Park, Utah.
Quite a contrast. Firefly is flown and owned by Jim Hefner of
Arizona:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2804.JPG
Confluence of the Colorado and Green Rivers:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2809.JPG
Arches National Park. Note the arch in the very center of the photo.
Can you name it?
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2836.JPG
Same arch as above. Note the people on the near side of it. Gives a
good example of how large the arch is. The setting is very dramatic.
I would like to view this one from the ground some day:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2838.JPG
Retired CW4 John Williamson flying his Kolb Kolbra over the Utah
desert:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2854.JPG
Gary Haley, Houston, TX, flying over Utah Lake, Utah, south of Salt
Lake City:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2862.JPG
South side of the Great Salt Lake:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2869.JPG
John W over Bonneville Salt Flats, Utah:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2873.JPG
John W and Gary H over Bonneville:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2879.JPG
Like flying over a snow field, the salt will dazzle you and cause
severe depth perception deprivation:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2884.JPG
This is "Stink", a female Perigrine Falcon, belonging to Karen
Cottrell. Stink is a member of the world's fastest bird family, the
Perigrines. She sits in the warm sun of the Alvord Desert, where the
crew spent a few days enjoying the hospitalilty of Larry and Karen:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2896.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2897.JPG
Our camp in the Alvord Desert:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2901.JPG
John W says goodbye as he heads north on our last day in the Alvord:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2905.JPG
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| Subject: | Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sorry about that, folks. Hit the wrong dad burn key again.
Wild mustangs in the Sheldon Wildlife Management Area of Nevada:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2908.JPG
Gary H out of Cedarville, California, heading down the valley to
Reno/Stead Airport, home of the Unlimited Air Races:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2918.JPG
I spent the night under the wing of the MKIII at Lone Pine, CA.
Little did I know that the low murmur I heard early in the evening
would become a roar as the cows in the feed lot across Hwy 365 began
to really serenade me. Never again will I spend the night in Lone
Pine. That is Mt Whitney in the background:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2928.JPG
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| Subject: | MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (still continuing) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Shucks! Did it again. Hit the dad burn send button inadvertently.
A couple hours out of Santa Clarita, CA, I had to take a "pit stop".
Rather than fly 25 miles off my course, I did an off field landing in
a dry creek bed. Didn't know the sand was nearly so deep. Dropped
tire pressure from 15 to 10 psi prior to take off attempt. MKIII did
better than I expected getting out of there, fully loaded with only 10
lbs or so of the 150 lbs of fuel burned off:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2932.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2933.JPG
Crater National Monument, I believe, in Arizona. A very larg hole,
indeed:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/DSCF2933.JPG
John W, John Hauck, and Gary H, flying formation in the Alvord Desert.
Photo courtesy of Karen Cottrell:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/P5260051.JPG
Here's how we say thank you and good bye. John H, John W, and Gary H.
Photo courtesy of Karen Cottrell:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202005%20Flight/P5260055.JPG
Not bad for a bunch of old farts! ;-)
Take care,
john h
titus, alabama
PS: Three day flight from Santa Clarita, CA, to Gantt International
Airport, Alabama, at 80 mph cruise!
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Good to have ya back, John, and a pleasure to see your pics. Just wish
there were more of 'em. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Sorry about that, folks. Hit the wrong dad burn key again.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (continued) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wish
| there were more of 'em. Lar.
Larry/Gang:
There are a lot of them, but trying to learn not to bore my audience.
;-)
Also, took me three shots to get one email sent with the url's. There
is another part on its way due to my inattention to duties. hehehe
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: [VET-RANT] VVA Press Release |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
Guys,
Sorry about that. Didn't mean for my last post to be sent to the Kolblist.
:>(
Do not
archive
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
One Kolber has designed a dolly that
does both things, raises the wheels and cradles the wings. I believe that
is also in the archives. Someone else (I think Larry from Oregon) uses a
big inner tube that he inflates under the wihg. Anyway, the strap
arrangement works the best for me.
AzDave
Dave,
I think George Alexander has some pictures of my dolly on his website. It
supports the wings in padded saddles and holds the weight of the tail boom
off the tail wheel. I used two casters on it and have a handle that extends
to just behind the rudder.
Steven Green
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
>
>I think George Alexander has some pictures of my dolly on his website. It
>supports the wings in padded saddles and holds the weight of the tail boom
>off the tail wheel. I used two casters on it and have a handle that extends
>to just behind the rudder.
>
>Steven Green
try this link
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/sgreenpg@bellsouth.net.02.05.2005/Wing_Fold_Dolly.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger And Hauling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> I actually got to taxi it at slow speed. No big deal to most, but
after
> approx. 8 years of building an enclosed trailer and plane I felt a sense
of
> satisfaction, knowing I am another step closer to committing aviation
again.
I have done six first flights in a Kolb. It is always exciting even the
initial taxi tests on each one. It is always a big deal. Enjoy.
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Dave et al:
You can see Steven's trailering set up at:
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
Click on "Trailering a Kolb"
George Alexander
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kolbdriver
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
One Kolber has designed a dolly that
does both things, raises the wheels and cradles the wings. I believe that
is also in the archives. Someone else (I think Larry from Oregon) uses a
big inner tube that he inflates under the wihg. Anyway, the strap
arrangement works the best for me.
AzDave
Dave,
I think George Alexander has some pictures of my dolly on his website. It
supports the wings in padded saddles and holds the weight of the tail boom
off the tail wheel. I used two casters on it and have a handle that extends
to just behind the rudder.
Steven Green
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| Subject: | MKIII Flight to MV and Beyond (still continuing) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Kolbers:
I took John Hauck's text and images and put them together in a web site for
his trip out west.
You can view them at:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolb-driver
Thanks to John H., John W., Jim Heffner, Will Uribe, Rick Neilsen and the
others for sharing their material with all of us. Those of us that didn't
make the trip get to share a little of it with you.
Fun, Safe Flying
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| Subject: | Kolb Database and MV |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
First, thanks to John and John for sharing the pics of the trip. I look forward
to Monument Valley 2028 when I retire:)
Secondly, I have had some database updates trickle in here lately so it's a good
time to offer a reminder to send in any updates.
Let me know of any changes or additions to...
dama@mindspring.com
Thanks,
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Knew it was there, just didn't remember who's it was.
Thanks,
AzDave
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
>
> One Kolber has designed a dolly that
> does both things, raises the wheels and cradles the wings. I believe that
> is also in the archives. Someone else (I think Larry from Oregon) uses a
> big inner tube that he inflates under the wihg. Anyway, the strap
> arrangement works the best for me.
>
> AzDave
>
> Dave,
>
> I think George Alexander has some pictures of my dolly on his website. It
> supports the wings in padded saddles and holds the weight of the tail boom
> off the tail wheel. I used two casters on it and have a handle that
> extends
> to just behind the rudder.
>
> Steven Green
>
>
>
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