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1. 05:51 AM - Fly - In Cancelled (skyrider2)
2. 08:36 AM - Monument Valley (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
4. 11:03 AM - [ Terry Davis ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
5. 11:31 AM - [ Scott Perkins ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
6. 11:34 AM - Re: Monument Valley (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 11:37 AM - [ Jimmy Hankinson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
8. 11:38 AM - [ Larry Bourne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
9. 12:26 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
10. 02:36 PM - Re: Monument Valley (ron wehba)
11. 03:58 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
12. 04:39 PM - Re: Monument Valley (ron wehba)
13. 05:42 PM - Naked SlingShot ? (Rusty)
14. 06:06 PM - Re: Naked SlingShot ? (Kirk Smith)
15. 08:18 PM - Alaska flying (ray anderson)
16. 08:28 PM - Re: Monument Valley (DAquaNut@aol.com)
17. 08:59 PM - Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings (Richard Swiderwski)
18. 09:11 PM - Re: Wanted: Dead or Alive--75mm Prop Flange (Richard Swiderwski)
19. 09:46 PM - Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings (Larry Bourne)
20. 09:55 PM - Re: Wanted: Dead or Alive--75mm Prop Flange (Larry Bourne)
21. 11:12 PM - Cockpit Noise? (Grageda)
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| Subject: | Fly - In Cancelled |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "skyrider2" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Ted,
Don't feel bad, that's a good call. This thing may not be as strong as Ivan or
Charlie was, but it is HUGE and slow moving so it'll dump a lot of rain.
Now if I could just get the GA Power company to start pulling the lake that I live
on down a foot or so to keep it from flooding when Arlene gets up here, I'd
be happy. Last year, Ivan caused so much flooding that boats were pushed up
through the roofs of boathouses. One boathouse in particular, broke loose from
it's foundation, and was last seen with two boats still in it, floating down
the middle of the lake towards the dam. And this wasn't originally a "floating"
boat house, it was a stationary one on pilings.
I may see ya'll next weekend, weather permitting. Good luck !!!
Doug Lawton
NE Georgia & Whitwell TN
Matthews Field and Gliderport
Time: 03:33:39 AM PST US
From: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Flying C's Planetation
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
I am sorry to report that the Fly-in scheduled for June 11 at our
Planetation has been cancelled due to weather. I am afraid the tropical
storm in the gulf has forced this issue. At this time we are rescheduling
for the weekend of June 18. The weather report for this weekend is not that
great but at least it does not have a tropical storm in it and possibly this
could all move out of the way. Ted Cowan, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
This may be the last draft of the Monument Valley article. Thanks to everyone for
your comments, suggestions, corrections and Bob N for your editing. I have
received a few of the raw .JPG photos thanks. If the photos on George's web site
and others aren't the full raw .JPG (right from the camera except if they have
been touched up) please sent them to me in full size. These photos are just
too great display less than the best way possible. Hopefully Sport Pilot will
do justice to them. Lar yes the photo of the group under the big motor home
awning is the one I want.
One last time any more suggestions:
Third Annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument Valley
On May 20-22, 2005 we had our third annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument Valley. Its
location is on the Utah/ Arizona border between Lake Powell and the four corners
area. Some have called it our unplanned and unorganized Fly-In but everything
was perfect. We like it informal and free from a lot of rules.
We are a group of flyers that enjoy grass roots flying. We fly a series of affordable,
well designed airplanes that can and are flown cross country. For some
of us "cross country" means 20 mile trips to neighboring strips. Others think
nothing of flying across the United States and even to the far reaches of Alaska.
Our airplanes aren't megabuck machines with glass cockpits and auto pilots,
that cruise at three hundred miles an hour. These planes is relatively affordable
and therefore available for the common man, that draws a different (and
arguably nicer) crowd to light aviation.
To really enjoy our great land we fly a leisurely 60-80 MPH at three thousand feet
or less. In fact the most beautiful Monument Valley aerial photos were taken
from the smaller Kolbs with only a partial wind shield. We can see every hill,
hollow, lake, river, forest, mountain and monuments. We can smell the flowers
in bloom, grass fires, skunks, even bacon on the griddle. In our travels
we frequently visit small grass strips and meet other great people who also
enjoy flying. There are times when bad weather moves in that interrupts our flying
but not our adventure. This is flying for the pure joy of it.
We are also a group of builders. Most everyone has or is building their own airplane.
There are hundreds of us all over the world. We meet on the Matronics Kolb
E-Mail List, share our building and flying experiences and help others build
their airplanes. In fact one member from the country of Holland suggested that
I add this section to this article. There are members that just listen and
there are those that don't have an airplane. Everyone is welcome. This Fly-In
was conceived and yes even planned on the Kolb list. For most of us this Fly-In
meant meeting the friends face to face that we have known for years only on
the Kolb list.
We used the wonderful facilities at Goulding's Resort. They have a 1st class facility
with a full range of services. Pictured at left of center is the hotel,
restaurant, gift shop and museum. Center is the gas station, snack shop/convenience
store, and car wash. Laundromat is behind it, and airport to the right
and in front. Community services and campground are in the green area in
the canyon. Prices are fair (cheap by air show standards), service excellent,
food delicious. The airstrip is well maintained (for a dirt/paved runway) with
massive cables for hooking our tiedowns to and auto fuel is close. What more
could you ask for ?? Be sure to try the Navajo Taco in the restaurant.
{Larry Bourne's Goulding Photo here}
A Kluster of Kolbs ?? Nawww, too trite, but we did have a good turnout with Mk
IIIs, Firestar IIs, a FireFly, and a Kolbra, not to mention a Cessna C175 and
a Mooney.
{John Jung's Flight line Photo here}
More than half the Kolbs at the Fly-In actually flew in. The flyers were two from
Texas (a Kolbra- John Williamson and MKIIIc- Gary Haley), one from Alabama
(MKIIIc- John Hauck), one from Arizona (Firestar II- John Jung), and one from
northern Utah (MKIIIc- Boyd Young)
Things got off to a slow start on Friday as people arrived throughout the day.
But those that were there didn't wait.
{Rick Neilsen's photo of Chuck Whitacre in his Hirth powered Firestar here}
Friday evening as the sun was setting the monuments took on a deep red glow as
a back drop for the Kolbs sitting on the runway at Goulding's.
{Rick Neilsen's photo of Kolbra and MKIIIc with monument behind}
Back at camp the hanger flying gets into high gear.
{Will Uribe's camp photo here}
Saturday morning the monuments took on that red glow to highlight the takeoff of
John Hauck's Miss P'fer.
{Rick Neilsen's photo of John Hauck's Miss P'fer}
As the morning progressed the fun really got going as everyone took to the air.
Those that had planes shared their airplanes and the unique geological beauty
of Monument Valley.
{Rick Neilsen's photo of monument under Dave Rain's C175 wing}
{Jim Hefner's flight photo #9}
{Boyd Young's photo of Erich Weaver's MKIIIc between the monuments}
{John Hauck's photo #2714}
{John Jung's photo #1 of monuments}
At mid-morning the wind came up and the intrepid pilots returned to earth to visit
and relax. Ninety degree temps sent some into the shade of this conveniently
parked RV's awnings,
{Larry Bourne's camper awning photo}
.......and some into the shade of wings. Could it get any nicer than this ??
{Larry Bourne's sitting under wing photo}
The location couldn't be better. The scenery is breath taking and we have the air
in the Valley all to ourselves except for a few Caravans and Twin Otters that
fly tourists directly in and out of the Goulding Resort. With the airport
elevation at 5192 feet ASL and temperatures around the 90 degree mark the density
altitude is more than eight thousand feet. The heavily loaded tour planes
struggling into the air make a stark contrast to our Kolbs, relatively unaffected
by the high density altitude.
{Will Uribe's Caravan and Twin Otter Photo here}
When the wind died down in the afternoon and temperatures dropped, we headed out
again. This year it seems like more people headed north to the San Juan River,
near Mexican Hat, Utah for the different scenery there. It was great.
{Boyd Young's photo of the goosenecks of the San Juan River with the San Juan State
Park overlook}
After flying on Saturday some of us took a 10 min. hike above the camp ground to
view the arch and other scenery.
{Jim Hefner's camp ground arch photo}
Sunday morning most of us met at the Goulding's restaurant for breakfast and more
talk before heading back to reality. Others needing more adventure take off
for a loop around the western states (Utah, California, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming
Nebraska Colorado, Kansas, and Oklahoma) before heading home.
{Karen Cottrell's photo of John Hauck, John Williamson and Gary Haley here}
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Richard, didn't you get my off-List email ?? How large of photo files do
you want me to send you ?? The original shots are 5 - 6 megabytes each.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>
> This may be the last draft of the Monument Valley article. Thanks to
> everyone for your comments, suggestions, corrections and Bob N for your
> editing. I have received a few of the raw .JPG photos thanks. If the
> photos on George's web site and others aren't the full raw .JPG (right
> from the camera except if they have been touched up) please sent them to
> me in full size. These photos are just too great display less than the
> best way possible. Hopefully Sport Pilot will do justice to them. Lar yes
> the photo of the group under the big motor home awning is the one I want.
>
> One last time any more suggestions:
>
> Third Annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument Valley
>
>
> On May 20-22, 2005 we had our third annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument Valley.
> Its location is on the Utah/ Arizona border between Lake Powell and the
> four corners area. Some have called it our unplanned and unorganized
> Fly-In but everything was perfect. We like it informal and free from a
> lot of rules.
>
>
> We are a group of flyers that enjoy grass roots flying. We fly a series of
> affordable, well designed airplanes that can and are flown cross country.
> For some of us "cross country" means 20 mile trips to neighboring strips.
> Others think nothing of flying across the United States and even to the
> far reaches of Alaska. Our airplanes aren't megabuck machines with glass
> cockpits and auto pilots, that cruise at three hundred miles an hour.
> These planes is relatively affordable and therefore available for the
> common man, that draws a different (and arguably nicer) crowd to light
> aviation.
>
>
> To really enjoy our great land we fly a leisurely 60-80 MPH at three
> thousand feet or less. In fact the most beautiful Monument Valley aerial
> photos were taken from the smaller Kolbs with only a partial wind shield.
> We can see every hill, hollow, lake, river, forest, mountain and
> monuments. We can smell the flowers in bloom, grass fires, skunks, even
> bacon on the griddle. In our travels we frequently visit small grass
> strips and meet other great people who also enjoy flying. There are times
> when bad weather moves in that interrupts our flying but not our
> adventure. This is flying for the pure joy of it.
>
>
> We are also a group of builders. Most everyone has or is building their
> own airplane. There are hundreds of us all over the world. We meet on the
> Matronics Kolb E-Mail List, share our building and flying experiences and
> help others build their airplanes. In fact one member from the country of
> Holland suggested that I add this section to this article. There are
> members that just listen and there are those that don't have an airplane.
> Everyone is welcome. This Fly-In was conceived and yes even planned on the
> Kolb list. For most of us this Fly-In meant meeting the friends face to
> face that we have known for years only on the Kolb list.
>
>
> We used the wonderful facilities at Goulding's Resort. They have a 1st
> class facility with a full range of services. Pictured at left of center
> is the hotel, restaurant, gift shop and museum. Center is the gas
> station, snack shop/convenience store, and car wash. Laundromat is behind
> it, and airport to the right and in front. Community services and
> campground are in the green area in the canyon. Prices are fair (cheap by
> air show standards), service excellent, food delicious. The airstrip is
> well maintained (for a dirt/paved runway) with massive cables for hooking
> our tiedowns to and auto fuel is close. What more could you ask for ?? Be
> sure to try the Navajo Taco in the restaurant.
>
>
> {Larry Bourne's Goulding Photo here}
>
>
> A Kluster of Kolbs ?? Nawww, too trite, but we did have a good turnout
> with Mk IIIs, Firestar IIs, a FireFly, and a Kolbra, not to mention a
> Cessna C175 and a Mooney.
>
>
> {John Jung's Flight line Photo here}
>
>
> More than half the Kolbs at the Fly-In actually flew in. The flyers were
> two from Texas (a Kolbra- John Williamson and MKIIIc- Gary Haley), one
> from Alabama (MKIIIc- John Hauck), one from Arizona (Firestar II- John
> Jung), and one from northern Utah (MKIIIc- Boyd Young)
>
>
> Things got off to a slow start on Friday as people arrived throughout the
> day. But those that were there didn't wait.
>
>
> {Rick Neilsen's photo of Chuck Whitacre in his Hirth powered Firestar
> here}
>
>
> Friday evening as the sun was setting the monuments took on a deep red
> glow as a back drop for the Kolbs sitting on the runway at Goulding's.
>
>
> {Rick Neilsen's photo of Kolbra and MKIIIc with monument behind}
>
>
> Back at camp the hanger flying gets into high gear.
>
>
> {Will Uribe's camp photo here}
>
>
> Saturday morning the monuments took on that red glow to highlight the
> takeoff of John Hauck's Miss P'fer.
>
>
> {Rick Neilsen's photo of John Hauck's Miss P'fer}
>
>
> As the morning progressed the fun really got going as everyone took to the
> air. Those that had planes shared their airplanes and the unique
> geological beauty of Monument Valley.
>
>
> {Rick Neilsen's photo of monument under Dave Rain's C175 wing}
>
> {Jim Hefner's flight photo #9}
>
> {Boyd Young's photo of Erich Weaver's MKIIIc between the monuments}
>
> {John Hauck's photo #2714}
>
> {John Jung's photo #1 of monuments}
>
>
> At mid-morning the wind came up and the intrepid pilots returned to earth
> to visit and relax. Ninety degree temps sent some into the shade of this
> conveniently parked RV's awnings,
>
>
> {Larry Bourne's camper awning photo}
>
>
> .......and some into the shade of wings. Could it get any nicer than
> this ??
>
>
> {Larry Bourne's sitting under wing photo}
>
>
> The location couldn't be better. The scenery is breath taking and we have
> the air in the Valley all to ourselves except for a few Caravans and Twin
> Otters that fly tourists directly in and out of the Goulding Resort. With
> the airport elevation at 5192 feet ASL and temperatures around the 90
> degree mark the density altitude is more than eight thousand feet. The
> heavily loaded tour planes struggling into the air make a stark contrast
> to our Kolbs, relatively unaffected by the high density altitude.
>
>
> {Will Uribe's Caravan and Twin Otter Photo here}
>
>
> When the wind died down in the afternoon and temperatures dropped, we
> headed out again. This year it seems like more people headed north to the
> San Juan River, near Mexican Hat, Utah for the different scenery there.
> It was great.
>
>
> {Boyd Young's photo of the goosenecks of the San Juan River with the San
> Juan State Park overlook}
>
>
> After flying on Saturday some of us took a 10 min. hike above the camp
> ground to view the arch and other scenery.
>
>
> {Jim Hefner's camp ground arch photo}
>
>
> Sunday morning most of us met at the Goulding's restaurant for breakfast
> and more talk before heading back to reality. Others needing more
> adventure take off for a loop around the western states (Utah, California,
> Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming Nebraska Colorado, Kansas, and Oklahoma) before
> heading home.
>
>
> {Karen Cottrell's photo of John Hauck, John Williamson and Gary Haley
> here}
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> Rick Neilsen
>
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
>
>
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| Subject: | [ Terry Davis ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Terry Davis <davistcs@eoni.com>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolbs at the Alvord
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Scott Perkins <2scott@bellsouth.net>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Lar
I see you got my E-Mail.... These are fantastic photos I want them to be
printed as good as it can get. Maybe you should sent them one at a time if
you can but if you can't send as large a photo as possible.
Rick Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Richard, didn't you get my off-List email ?? How large of photo files do
> you want me to send you ?? The original shots are 5 - 6 megabytes each.
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>>
>> This may be the last draft of the Monument Valley article. Thanks to
>> everyone for your comments, suggestions, corrections and Bob N for your
>> editing. I have received a few of the raw .JPG photos thanks. If the
>> photos on George's web site and others aren't the full raw .JPG (right
>> from the camera except if they have been touched up) please sent them to
>> me in full size. These photos are just too great display less than the
>> best way possible. Hopefully Sport Pilot will do justice to them. Lar yes
>> the photo of the group under the big motor home awning is the one I want.
>>
>> One last time any more suggestions:
>>
>> Third Annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument Valley
>>
>>
>> On May 20-22, 2005 we had our third annual Kolb Fly-In at Monument
>> Valley.
>> Its location is on the Utah/ Arizona border between Lake Powell and the
>> four corners area. Some have called it our unplanned and unorganized
>> Fly-In but everything was perfect. We like it informal and free from a
>> lot of rules.
>>
>>
>> We are a group of flyers that enjoy grass roots flying. We fly a series
>> of
>> affordable, well designed airplanes that can and are flown cross country.
>> For some of us "cross country" means 20 mile trips to neighboring
>> strips.
>> Others think nothing of flying across the United States and even to the
>> far reaches of Alaska. Our airplanes aren't megabuck machines with glass
>> cockpits and auto pilots, that cruise at three hundred miles an hour.
>> These planes is relatively affordable and therefore available for the
>> common man, that draws a different (and arguably nicer) crowd to light
>> aviation.
>>
>>
>> To really enjoy our great land we fly a leisurely 60-80 MPH at three
>> thousand feet or less. In fact the most beautiful Monument Valley aerial
>> photos were taken from the smaller Kolbs with only a partial wind shield.
>> We can see every hill, hollow, lake, river, forest, mountain and
>> monuments. We can smell the flowers in bloom, grass fires, skunks, even
>> bacon on the griddle. In our travels we frequently visit small grass
>> strips and meet other great people who also enjoy flying. There are
>> times
>> when bad weather moves in that interrupts our flying but not our
>> adventure. This is flying for the pure joy of it.
>>
>>
>> We are also a group of builders. Most everyone has or is building their
>> own airplane. There are hundreds of us all over the world. We meet on the
>> Matronics Kolb E-Mail List, share our building and flying experiences and
>> help others build their airplanes. In fact one member from the country of
>> Holland suggested that I add this section to this article. There are
>> members that just listen and there are those that don't have an airplane.
>> Everyone is welcome. This Fly-In was conceived and yes even planned on
>> the
>> Kolb list. For most of us this Fly-In meant meeting the friends face to
>> face that we have known for years only on the Kolb list.
>>
>>
>> We used the wonderful facilities at Goulding's Resort. They have a 1st
>> class facility with a full range of services. Pictured at left of center
>> is the hotel, restaurant, gift shop and museum. Center is the gas
>> station, snack shop/convenience store, and car wash. Laundromat is
>> behind
>> it, and airport to the right and in front. Community services and
>> campground are in the green area in the canyon. Prices are fair (cheap
>> by
>> air show standards), service excellent, food delicious. The airstrip is
>> well maintained (for a dirt/paved runway) with massive cables for hooking
>> our tiedowns to and auto fuel is close. What more could you ask for ??
>> Be
>> sure to try the Navajo Taco in the restaurant.
>>
>>
>> {Larry Bourne's Goulding Photo here}
>>
>>
>> A Kluster of Kolbs ?? Nawww, too trite, but we did have a good turnout
>> with Mk IIIs, Firestar IIs, a FireFly, and a Kolbra, not to mention a
>> Cessna C175 and a Mooney.
>>
>>
>> {John Jung's Flight line Photo here}
>>
>>
>> More than half the Kolbs at the Fly-In actually flew in. The flyers were
>> two from Texas (a Kolbra- John Williamson and MKIIIc- Gary Haley), one
>> from Alabama (MKIIIc- John Hauck), one from Arizona (Firestar II- John
>> Jung), and one from northern Utah (MKIIIc- Boyd Young)
>>
>>
>> Things got off to a slow start on Friday as people arrived throughout the
>> day. But those that were there didn't wait.
>>
>>
>> {Rick Neilsen's photo of Chuck Whitacre in his Hirth powered Firestar
>> here}
>>
>>
>> Friday evening as the sun was setting the monuments took on a deep red
>> glow as a back drop for the Kolbs sitting on the runway at Goulding's.
>>
>>
>> {Rick Neilsen's photo of Kolbra and MKIIIc with monument behind}
>>
>>
>> Back at camp the hanger flying gets into high gear.
>>
>>
>> {Will Uribe's camp photo here}
>>
>>
>> Saturday morning the monuments took on that red glow to highlight the
>> takeoff of John Hauck's Miss P'fer.
>>
>>
>> {Rick Neilsen's photo of John Hauck's Miss P'fer}
>>
>>
>> As the morning progressed the fun really got going as everyone took to
>> the
>> air. Those that had planes shared their airplanes and the unique
>> geological beauty of Monument Valley.
>>
>>
>> {Rick Neilsen's photo of monument under Dave Rain's C175 wing}
>>
>> {Jim Hefner's flight photo #9}
>>
>> {Boyd Young's photo of Erich Weaver's MKIIIc between the monuments}
>>
>> {John Hauck's photo #2714}
>>
>> {John Jung's photo #1 of monuments}
>>
>>
>> At mid-morning the wind came up and the intrepid pilots returned to earth
>> to visit and relax. Ninety degree temps sent some into the shade of this
>> conveniently parked RV's awnings,
>>
>>
>> {Larry Bourne's camper awning photo}
>>
>>
>> .......and some into the shade of wings. Could it get any nicer than
>> this ??
>>
>>
>> {Larry Bourne's sitting under wing photo}
>>
>>
>> The location couldn't be better. The scenery is breath taking and we have
>> the air in the Valley all to ourselves except for a few Caravans and Twin
>> Otters that fly tourists directly in and out of the Goulding Resort.
>> With
>> the airport elevation at 5192 feet ASL and temperatures around the 90
>> degree mark the density altitude is more than eight thousand feet. The
>> heavily loaded tour planes struggling into the air make a stark contrast
>> to our Kolbs, relatively unaffected by the high density altitude.
>>
>>
>> {Will Uribe's Caravan and Twin Otter Photo here}
>>
>>
>> When the wind died down in the afternoon and temperatures dropped, we
>> headed out again. This year it seems like more people headed north to
>> the
>> San Juan River, near Mexican Hat, Utah for the different scenery there.
>> It was great.
>>
>>
>> {Boyd Young's photo of the goosenecks of the San Juan River with the San
>> Juan State Park overlook}
>>
>>
>> After flying on Saturday some of us took a 10 min. hike above the camp
>> ground to view the arch and other scenery.
>>
>>
>> {Jim Hefner's camp ground arch photo}
>>
>>
>> Sunday morning most of us met at the Goulding's restaurant for breakfast
>> and more talk before heading back to reality. Others needing more
>> adventure take off for a loop around the western states (Utah,
>> California,
>> Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming Nebraska Colorado, Kansas, and Oklahoma) before
>> heading home.
>>
>>
>> {Karen Cottrell's photo of John Hauck, John Williamson and Gary Haley
>> here}
>>
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> Rick Neilsen
>>
>> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | [ Jimmy Hankinson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Jimmy Hankinson <jhankin@planters.net>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Jimmy Hankinson Full Enclosure
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jhankin@planters.net.06.11.2005/index.html
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| Subject: | [ Larry Bourne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Monument Valley Trip
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/biglar@gogittum.com.06.11.2005/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
OK, I hope you've got high speed internet. Didn't you get my off-List email
??
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>
> Lar
>
> I see you got my E-Mail.... These are fantastic photos I want them to be
> printed as good as it can get. Maybe you should sent them one at a time if
> you can but if you can't send as large a photo as possible.
>
> Rick Neilsen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
hi larry, ron here in texas, got hi speed now, sure like to see um!!! glad
you'all had a great time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> OK, I hope you've got high speed internet. Didn't you get my off-List
> email
> ??
> Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>>
>> Lar
>>
>> I see you got my E-Mail.... These are fantastic photos I want them to be
>> printed as good as it can get. Maybe you should sent them one at a time
>> if
>> you can but if you can't send as large a photo as possible.
>>
>> Rick Neilsen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You can see them at: http://www.webpictures.homestead.com/monument05.html
The ones I'll send Rick, if I get his correct email address, are the full
size ones for the article. Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
>
> hi larry, ron here in texas, got hi speed now, sure like to see um!!! glad
> you'all had a great time.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> OK, I hope you've got high speed internet. Didn't you get my off-List
>> email
>> ??
>> Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>>> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Lar
>>>
>>> I see you got my E-Mail.... These are fantastic photos I want them to be
>>> printed as good as it can get. Maybe you should sent them one at a time
>>> if
>>> you can but if you can't send as large a photo as possible.
>>>
>>> Rick Neilsen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
K thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> You can see them at:
> http://www.webpictures.homestead.com/monument05.html
> The ones I'll send Rick, if I get his correct email address, are the full
> size ones for the article. Lar.
> Do
> not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
>>
>> hi larry, ron here in texas, got hi speed now, sure like to see um!!!
>> glad
>> you'all had a great time.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>>
>>> OK, I hope you've got high speed internet. Didn't you get my off-List
>>> email
>>> ??
>>> Do not Archive.
>>>
>>> Larry Bourne
>>> Palm Springs, CA
>>> Building Kolb Mk III
>>> N78LB Vamoose
>>> www.gogittum.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>>>> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>> Lar
>>>>
>>>> I see you got my E-Mail.... These are fantastic photos I want them to
>>>> be
>>>> printed as good as it can get. Maybe you should sent them one at a time
>>>> if
>>>> you can but if you can't send as large a photo as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Rick Neilsen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Naked SlingShot ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Catchy subject eh :-)
I'm finally going to get started on the rework of the SS, and had an idea of
something I just might try. If you go to the Kolb page, and look at the
pics of the FireStar, you'll see that it has no covering on the fuselage
cage at all. All it has is a nose pod, and windscreen. This is just
incredibly cool to me.
Anyone see a problem doing that with a SS, aside from the extra drag, and
reduced speed, and trying to keep stuff out of the prop?
I've always wanted an open aircraft, and I've considered a number of
projects like that. For some reason, I never thought about leaving off the
covering on the fuselage of the SS until I saw those pics of the FireStar.
There's a very real chance that I'll decided the open cockpit isn't as much
fun as it looks, but all I have to do then is cover the cage and make a note
not to try that again :-)
In other SS news, I'm planning to spend the week building my single rotor
engine mount, and making a custom 22 gallon (or thereabouts) aluminum fuel
tank. The mount will be easy, and the tank won't be that hard, if I can
decide where to put it. The choices are:
- The stock location. This would require cutting and modifying the frame to
be able to get the tank in and out of the rear area. It's probably a bit
more crash resistant in that location, but it will also add to the CG
problems created by my heavier engine.
- The rear seat area. I won't have a rear seat regardless. The tank could
be much simpler in shape, and would have a natural low corner for a fuel
pickup. It would not require any cutting of frame tubes, and would be
easily removable. CG would be much better, and using fuel would have almost
no effect on CG. The biggest drawback is when you need to carry stuff. I
could use the stock fuel area as a baggage area, but it would be a bit
harder to get stuff in and out of.
Decisions, decisions...
Cheers,
Rusty (home undamaged by Tropical Storm Arlene, check hanger tomorrow)
Mazda 13B rotary powered RV-3 (flying)
Kolb Slingshot (Mazda single rotor project)
Sonerai-IIL (almost gone on Ebay)
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| Subject: | Re: Naked SlingShot ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Sounds like a plan to me......
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
While this doesn't deal with a Kolb directly, John Hauk, and I believe one or two
others regularly fly over the wilds of Alaska, and yes, it's possible one might
have an emergency landing that would keep one in the wilds at least for a
short time. This might interest those who fly their Kolbs there. I saw the pictures
of the brute and he was BIG. Story from an Alaska paper.
The downloaded pictures are of a man who works for the US Forest Service in Alaska
and his trophy bear. He was out deer hunting last week when a large grizzly
bear charged him from about 50 yards away. The guy emptied his 7mm Magnum semi-automatic
rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear
was still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head. The
bear was just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12' 6" high at the
shoulder, 14' to the top of his head. It's the largest grizzly bear ever recorded
in the world. Of course, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Commission did not
let him keep it as a trophy, but the bear will be stuffed and mounted, and placed
on display at the Anchorage airport to remind tourists of the risks involved
when in the wild. Based on the contents of the bears stomach, the Fish and
Wildlife Commission established the bear had killed at least two humans in
the past 72 hours including a missing hiker. The US F
orest
Service, backtracking from where the bear had originated, found the hiker's 38-caliber
pistol emptied. Not far from the pistol was the remains of the hiker.
The other body has not been found. Although the hiker fired six shots and managed
to hit the grizzly with four shots (the Service ultimately found four 38
caliber slugs along with twelve 7mm slugs inside the bear's dead body), it only
wounded the bear and probably angered it immensely. The bear killed the hiker
an estimated two days prior to the bear's own death by the gun of the Forest
Service worker.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/11/2005 10:37:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
NeilsenRM05@comcast.net writes:
These planes (is) relatively affordable
Rick,
Understand I am not picking at you, but It should be These plane (are)
through and it sounds good to me, for what ever that is worth. You have done a
good job!
Ed
Do not archive
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| Subject: | SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Rusty,
My engine will also be heavier than the converted SeaDoo 587 I was
flying on old SS 003. I also am planning to get rid of the 2 rear tanks and
go with a tank in the passenger seat area. I want a 22 gal tank as well.
Any chance of making 2 of them & selling me one? I am trying to get back
into the air before Big Lar, so any short cuts are on the table.
I bunched some numbers yesterday with the help of George Randolph's
wrist watch calculator & we did some CG scenarios. (We shared several
exasperating moments, if you can suffer the pun.) I expect to come in under
180 lbs for the entire engine package. I threw in a monster IVO 3-blade
Medium Inflight Adjustable prop at 19 lbs & figured for a 200 lb weight
hanging on the tail. With a battery in the nose, some healthy instrument
panel weight, & moving the fuel forward, it looked very do-able.
We spent most of the day trying to come up with accurate &
repeatable numbers for the weight of the SS's mains & tail with & Without
pilot and with & without wings. It was extraordinarily difficult to come in
with an under 1.5% error. It really helps to have a partner to blame the
errors on.
I say with & without wings because I can't assemble the wings in my
shop so I wanted to know how the absence of the wings will affect my future
CG calculations with just changes to the fuselage set up at 9 degrees inside
my shop. If anyone is interested, my wings & struts together weigh 100 lbs.
85 lbs ends up on the mains & 15 on the tailwheel. Now I just have to add
those numbers in when I am changing weight around on the plane & want to
know how it effects the final CG & the plane can stay in the shop. The
radiator, 2 intercoolers, a cabin heater, & parachute all need to find a
location & they all want to be at or behind the CG for economy, but one or
more may have to end up forward.
Richard Swiderski, SS 003.
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
In other SS news, I'm planning to spend the week building my single rotor
engine mount, and making a custom 22 gallon (or thereabouts) aluminum fuel
tank. The mount will be easy, and the tank won't be that hard, if I can
decide where to put it. The choices are:
- The stock location. This would require cutting and modifying the frame to
be able to get the tank in and out of the rear area. It's probably a bit
more crash resistant in that location, but it will also add to the CG
problems created by my heavier engine.
- The rear seat area. I won't have a rear seat regardless. The tank could
be much simpler in shape, and would have a natural low corner for a fuel
pickup. It would not require any cutting of frame tubes, and would be
easily removable. CG would be much better, and using fuel would have almost
no effect on CG. The biggest drawback is when you need to carry stuff. I
could use the stock fuel area as a baggage area, but it would be a bit
harder to get stuff in and out of.
Decisions, decisions...
Cheers,
Rusty (home undamaged by Tropical Storm Arlene, check hanger tomorrow)
Mazda 13B rotary powered RV-3 (flying)
Kolb Slingshot (Mazda single rotor project)
Sonerai-IIL (almost gone on Ebay)
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| Subject: | Wanted: Dead or Alive--75mm Prop Flange |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Hello All,
I am trying to adapt a 100mm rotax prop to a 75mm prop flange on a
SPG-2 redrive for my Turbo Suzuki Geo Metro conversion project. I don't
have an indexing table to drill 6 8mm holes on a 75mm prop shaft flange, &
I'm looking to use another prop flange that I can center on mine & use as a
pattern. A prop spacer plate won't work. Anybody have a busted rotax
gearbox or just its propshaft, or any redrive prop flange that I can buy
cheap or barrow?
Richard Swiderski
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Richard, Richard..........tut tut. I'm almost back to where I was a year
ago. This is progress............ ?? Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Rusty,
>
> My engine will also be heavier than the converted SeaDoo 587 I was
> flying on old SS 003. I also am planning to get rid of the 2 rear tanks
> and
> go with a tank in the passenger seat area. I want a 22 gal tank as well.
> Any chance of making 2 of them & selling me one? I am trying to get back
> into the air before Big Lar, so any short cuts are on the table.
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Dead or Alive--75mm Prop Flange |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'd think long and hard about that, Richard. Would it be possible to remove
the prop shaft and take it to a machine shop and have it done right ?? I
know that on some drives (Vamoose') it would be a very big job, but maybe
some are easier. If you do it yourself, and come up a few 1,000ths off, it
could well make you very unhappy. I've watched a machinist friend do a
similar job, and the level of precision is amazing. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Wanted: Dead or Alive--75mm Prop Flange
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to adapt a 100mm rotax prop to a 75mm prop flange on a
> SPG-2 redrive for my Turbo Suzuki Geo Metro conversion project. I don't
> have an indexing table to drill 6 8mm holes on a 75mm prop shaft flange, &
> I'm looking to use another prop flange that I can center on mine & use as
> a
> pattern. A prop spacer plate won't work. Anybody have a busted rotax
> gearbox or just its propshaft, or any redrive prop flange that I can buy
> cheap or barrow?
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Grageda" <grageda@innw.net>
Hi All,
I have a Firestar II that I fly and am having trouble being understood on my com
radio due to noise in the cockpit. I have a full windscreen due to the colder
weather we experience here in the Northwest. I'm running a rotax 447 with a
Tennessee 66 x34 prop and a stock muffler. I borrowed a radio shack db meter and
measured 117db at cruise. I use a helmet with a headset and a mike muff.
I was wondering if anyone else encountered this problem and what means they might
have used to reduce noise in the cockpit .
Thanks for your time
Carlos Grageda
grageda@innw.net
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