---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/14/05: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:02 AM - Re: floats (Larry Bourne) 2. 12:04 AM - Re: floats aka Acro $ (Larry Bourne) 3. 12:09 AM - Re: floats aka Acro $ (Larry Bourne) 4. 03:42 AM - Fly-in (Ted Cowan) 5. 03:45 AM - Accident (Ted Cowan) 6. 04:13 AM - Re: floats aka Acro $ (PATRICK LADD) 7. 04:14 AM - Re: floats aka Acro $ (PATRICK LADD) 8. 04:17 AM - Re: floats (PATRICK LADD) 9. 04:32 AM - Re: floats aka Acro $ (PATRICK LADD) 10. 04:43 AM - Re: First flight tendances (PATRICK LADD) 11. 06:58 AM - Re: First flight tendances (Don Gherardini) 12. 07:14 AM - Re: First flight tendances (Gene D. Ledbetter) 13. 07:30 AM - Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings (Rusty) 14. 07:38 AM - Re: First flight tendances (Richard Pike) 15. 07:56 AM - Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings (Richard Swiderwski) 16. 11:31 AM - Re: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings (ray anderson) 17. 12:57 PM - Re: First flight tendances (PATRICK LADD) 18. 02:47 PM - Firefly gas tank (Guy Morgan) 19. 02:51 PM - FireFly Gas Tank (Guy Morgan) 20. 05:16 PM - Re: D-Day (GeoR38@aol.com) 21. 06:35 PM - Need advise about a Taskem digital altimeter? (Eugene Zimmerman) 22. 06:44 PM - Need advise about Taskem digital altimeter (Eugene Zimmerman) 23. 07:12 PM - Re: Need advise about Taskem digital altimeter (gtalexander@att.net) 24. 07:22 PM - Re: Need advise about a Taskem digital altimeter? (Bob N.) 25. 07:28 PM - Just for fun (N27SB@aol.com) 26. 07:36 PM - Re: Firefly gas tank (Don Gherardini) 27. 07:36 PM - Re: Just for fun (Robert Laird) 28. 07:40 PM - Re: Just for fun (Larry Bourne) 29. 07:49 PM - Re: Just for fun (Rusty) 30. 07:56 PM - Re: Just for fun (N27SB@aol.com) 31. 07:58 PM - Re: Just for fun (N27SB@aol.com) 32. 08:06 PM - Re: Just for fun (N27SB@aol.com) 33. 08:38 PM - Re: Father's Day Fly-in (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:54 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Strange........I've got about the same physical history as you. :-) Just can't take it as well anymore. Also strange is the fascination with MiG's. There's a MiG 15 (I think) or possibly 17 (maybe) at the Santa Fe, New Mexico airport, that had my mouth watering. I'd have given a month's pay for a ride, but it was a single seater. Prob'ly gots a pic of it somewhere in this thing. Also an F-86 Sabre at Apple Valley, CA a few years ago.........same feeling. A friend of Larry Cottrell's in Grant's Pass, Oregon is rebuilding a MiG 21 (??) that's painted "passionate pink" and looks kinda strange, but I'd still like a ride. Not sure if he ever got it operational - it's been a couple of years, and he was almost done. Prob'ly putting my life in my hands with any of 'em, tho'. Wishful Thinkin' Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > How did you like the jet ride >> > > Hi Lar, > enjoyed it OK. Pilot just tried me out to see if I was afraid to > put the wing down.Apparently he approved because then he pulled a > `fighter > turn`. 90 degree bank with 3 gee held all the way round and then pulled up > into a hammerhead or chandelle as we call it. > I did a couple of barrel rolls. When I slammed the stick over my head hit > the canopy. Better the second time. > By then my stomach was protesting so we just swanned around admiring the > view until we joined the landing circuit. > It is a few years ago that I had an hours almost continous airobatics in a > Mustang without throwing up. Now I am a bit (a lot) older about 20 minutes > did it for me. > It was my second jet as I managed a ride in a Jet Provost Trainer at an > air > show a few years ago. > I think this one will probably be my last, unless someone has a Mig. out > there about about 100 bucks an hour of course. > > Cheers > > Pat > > do not archive > > > -- > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:51 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Now, see..........ya fooled us. I been hearing that it's the wings that float down after the rest of it. :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." > > Pat, > > Around these parts, as the locals say, a guy with a T-6 gets almost $200 > fer a less-than-half hour ride, and no real acro....dang wings keep > landing afore the rest of them parts do. > > Bob N. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:46 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Sumgun.........I do recall hearing about that, now you mention it. It'd just....almost....barely....be worth it, just one time, eh ?? I think just for the sounds, if nothing else. Maybe when I win the lottery.............?? I had a terrific ride on the EAA B-17 a few years ago, and it was wonderful. Man, those big radials starting up; nothing like it, riding thru the cloud tops right up in the nose, scrunched into the bombardier's seat that was built for a much smaller man, but in flight it was loud beyond belief. Look on my website. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sharp" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp > > I just recieved a quote from Stallion 51 to take a 1hr orientation flight. > The price is $2,850.00. Includes lots of goodies, three cameras on the > Mustang you get a copy, etc etc.. and you get stick time in a Shor-Nuff > Mustang! > > Too rich for my blood... > > Mike > Do Not Archive > > > "Bob N." wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." > > Pat, > > Around these parts, as the locals say, a guy with a T-6 gets almost $200 > fer a less-than-half hour ride, and no real acro....dang wings keep > landing afore the rest of them parts do. > > Bob N. > > do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:21 AM PST US From: Ted Cowan Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan Just want to let everyone know that the Flying C's Planetation Fly-in is a GO. We were put down for the tropical storm but we are back up and running. We have it scheduled for the weekend of June 18. Fly whatever you have, all welcome. Drive in for the food. Gas will be available. Go to: www.homestead.com/southernflyers and the events page for details and www.airnav.com and Al51 for airport details. Come on in on Friday and stay till Sunday or whatever. We will find a place for you to sleep. Ted and Beverly Cowan, Alabama ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:20 AM PST US From: Ted Cowan Subject: Kolb-List: Accident --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan A good friend and member of the Southern Flyers Association, Mike Highsmith has been injured in an ultralight crash down in Panama City, Fl. Details of the crash are not important at this point. He and his passenger have suffered some broken bones and other problems. I am sure most remember Mr. Mike and his Ferguson. His plane was destroyed. They are going to need all the prayers they can get. See website for further details. www.homestead.com/southernflyers Ted Cowan, Alabama ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:29 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" I just recieved a quote from Stallion 51 to take a 1hr orientation flight. The price is $2,850.00. Includes lots of goodies, three cameras on the Mustang you get a copy, etc etc.. and you get stick time in a Shor-Nuff Mustang!>> Hi Mike, thats the one I took. It wasn`t quite as expensive then but it was still pretty salty.Only two cameras then. I suspect they have added one on the wing. They did offer shorter flights also. If you can possibly do it my advice is, go for it. Over a flying life of say 40 years its only about $70 a year. A bargain. (Statistics can always provide the answer you want) You will certainly talk about it for the rest of your life and watching the video during long winter evenings is well worth the money. The horizon rolling round and the shots of you grinning like an idiot in the cockpit remins you ,literally, of your misspent youth. You can also get a few free dinners by showing the video and giving a talk around your local flying clubs. Tips. Take someone with you to take external shots of you taxying out, flying the circuit and landing and taxying in and climbing out of the cockpit. There is also a video about the Mustang from which you can pinch a few combat scenes, camera gun frames, the enemy going down in smoke etc. There are also some low level strafing shots. We descended from 10,000ft to around 600 ft on a strafing run back into Kissimee before we popped up to circuit hight for the landing. Those shots can be cut into the `real` footage.All this can easily be edited into a pukka storyboard and with the addition of appropriate music makes a great film. I used mainly Glen Miller and Benny Goodman. Tip 2. Do not fly into cloud if you can help it. It condenses on the lens of the camera mounted up on the fin and reduces the clarity of the pictures. Good luck Pat -- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:31 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" I had a terrific ride on the EAA B-17 >> Hi Lars, You lucky ........ I managed to get into a Lancaster while it taxied last year. 4 dirty great Merlins roaring just the other side of the skin. Wow!. The plane was J for Jane and is unfortunately non flyable. Needs a new mainspar..quote one million pounds sterling. The only one still flying here is the one in the RAF Battle of Britain flight and the chances of getting into that are zilch.. The B-17 which has been doing the airshow circuit in Europe has been grounded by bureaucracy. The powers that be have classified her as an airliner and have imposed that level of insurance on her. The Lancaster has not. We always maintained that the Yanks went to war in comfort and wouldn`t go at all unless there were seven flavours of icecream on board but this is ridiculous. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:27 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" Also strange is the fascination with MiG's. >> Dont worry about it Lars, a Yak will do in a pinch. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:57 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats aka Acro $ --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" dual time would ever get to be 2900 bucks an hour.....whew!!!! Hi Don, its not just the flying time it the 6 hours maintenance to 1 hours flying ratio that helps keep it expensive. Stallion 51 are doing alright. At Sun`n` Fun I talked to Lee Lauderbeck the pilot who flew me all those years ago and the company now has 2 Mustangs. Can`t be bad. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:05 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight tendances --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" Up elevator is the most needed for mine probably because she is a tad heavy ( up to 290 now)and cg is quite a bit aft..>> Sure that is right Don?. If your weight is aft you should need to push the stick forward Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:28 AM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight tendances --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" PAt...sorry...you have a good eye...and I shouldnt tell storys so late at nite... what I meant was need cg to be quite a bit more aft than it is. either way though, for me..elevator trim is the most desired to cut down on fatigue... The FireFly needs an in-flight adjustable elevator trim. Due to the high thrust line the trim need is different for each throttle setting. MOre so that any bird I have ever flown., but I suspect all Kolbs are similiar in this respect. If you get it trimmed for high cruise..then you will have to hold down on the stick when on in the pattern at low throttle settings, which makes me uncomfortable too! Don Gherardini OEM.Sales / Engineering dept. American Honda Engines Power Equipment Company CortLand, Illinois 800-626-7326 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:00 AM PST US From: "Gene D. Ledbetter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight tendances --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter" If you will look at my website - http://homepage.mac.com/gene1930/ PhotoAlbum2.html , you will view the simple elevator trim system that I have been using on my Firefly for about 3 years. The photos show two springs from Lowes but I added a 3rd one after these photos were taken. The system does eliminate the forward or back stick pressure when adjusted for a specific throttle setting. The trim wheel was cut from a nylon cutting board and the wooden spool for the nylon cord added. The wheel has a friction setting controlled by a wave washer. The system works for me. Gene Ledbetter Firefly - 294 hrs Cincinnati On Jun 14, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Don Gherardini wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" eleven.net> > > PAt...sorry...you have a good eye...and I shouldnt tell storys so > late at > nite... > what I meant was need cg to be quite a bit more aft than it is. > either way though, for me..elevator trim is the most desired to cut > down on > fatigue... > The FireFly needs an in-flight adjustable elevator trim. Due to the > high > thrust line the trim need is different for each throttle setting. > MOre so > that any bird I have ever flown., but I suspect all Kolbs are > similiar in > this respect. If you get it trimmed for high cruise..then you will > have to > hold down on the stick when on in the pattern at low throttle > settings, > which makes me uncomfortable too! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:16 AM PST US From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Rusty, Rusty, Rusty.... How can an RV-x-building repeat-offender talk about building fuel tanks & just consider welding? ------------------------------------ (RD) Charlie, It's because I've been traumatized by the smell of proseal, that and the fact that I bought a $3500 TIG welder for just such jobs. Fortunately for the folks on this list, their noses will be burned out by the PolyStink products before they need a tank :-) Proseal is my fallback plan. If any of my seams have pinhole leaks, I'll proseal it on the outside :-) Cheers, Rusty (engine mount should be done this afternoon) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:58 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight tendances --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Don, on the FSII, we used a motorcycle throttle type cable with a spring at one end and hooked to the bottom of the control stick, and a handle at the other end. By moving the handle, we can adjust trim tension on the stick. Gives easy hands off trim. Picture here - http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Hot%20Box.html Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:00 AM 6/14/2005 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > >The FireFly needs an in-flight adjustable elevator trim. Due to the high >thrust line the trim need is different for each throttle setting. MOre so >that any bird I have ever flown., but I suspect all Kolbs are similiar in >this respect. If you get it trimmed for high cruise..then you will have to >hold down on the stick when on in the pattern at low throttle settings, >which makes me uncomfortable too! > >Don Gherardini >OEM.Sales / Engineering dept. >American Honda Engines >Power Equipment Company >CortLand, Illinois >800-626-7326 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:49 AM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Charlie, Thanks for sharing your info. I will explore this in more detail when I am up & flying. Thanks again. Richard Swiderski Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England George E. Myers Jr. wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr." > >Hi Charlie >I sure would love more info. I was considering bending one up but wasn't >sure if I could get it sealed. >Thanks >George > Richard, George, If you need info on building the 'box', let me know, but Google 'fuel tank construction' first & see if you can learn enough to get you started. (Don't forget that a 20gal container with flat sides will need internal reinforcing ribs and you will need a suitable 'cradle' for it to sit in that can withstand 120 lbs times the number of G's you might pull, or bounce on landing. :-)) 32 thousandths thick 2024 or 6061 is probably the thinnest aluminum you should use. Here are some links to tank sealant: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1118714867-124-495&act ion=search http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/fuel_tanksealants.html I'd buy from Van's. they are happy to sell to anyone & usually have competitive prices. While you are on the phone you can also ask them for the name of an RV builder near you (there will be one near you) so you can see a tank being built. Most metal homebuilt kits these days use this type sealant for 'wet wing' fuel tanks. Caution: If you run auto fuel, go direct to the manufacturer of the sealant to be sure it's compatible with auto fuel. There are many different types available (plenty for repairing car & motorcycle tanks using car gas) & I wouldn't trust a vendor to know the right answer. Cleanliness is next to survival!! Wear gloves to keep skin oils off the metal. Clean Everything, rough up the joining surfaces with scotchbrite pads, Clean Everything, & build. Did I mention 'Clean Everything'? Use the most powerful chemical cleaner/degreaser you are willing to risk your health over. 'Type B' is the right consistency. This stuff is about the consistency of caulk after mixing. You can butter it into corners & over pop rivet heads on the inside of the open box with popsicle sticks, or mix in quart ziplock bags, cut a tiny corner off the bag & use it like a cake decorator's icing tool to apply the stuff with a lot less mess. If you bend the flanges out all around, you can use regular pop rivets. If you want a much cleaner look, bend the flanges in & use closed end pop rivets. http://www.hansonrivet.com/w22.htm Aluminum with steel mandrel is fine. If this is enough to get you started, do some reading. If I've totally confused you, let me know & I'll try again. Apologies if this is disjointed; not much time to type today. Charlie (If it were me, I'd do some measuring & then mosey on down to the local soft drink bottler & ask to see the plastic syrup drums they are about to throw away.) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:02 AM PST US From: ray anderson Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot; Fuel Tank: CG ing Without Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson Tanks can easily be built with glass, foam and epoxy. Homebuilders have been doing this for years. They probably weigh a little more than aluminum but are rugged and can be custom constructed to fit odd places. I built my first one many years ago when I built a Rutan Quickie. Later I built one for a gyrocopter and one for my Kolb UltraStar. The Kolb was built in a peculiar shape to fill all of the space behind the seat, but could still be removed. Make a pattern tank with cardboard sheets taped together until the exact shape and size is found. Cut panels of 1/4 inch high density foam, available at Aircraft Spruce, bond the foam sheets together at the edges with epoxy and then lay up one or two layers of glass outside and inside, depending on size and capacity. Add a baffle or strengthening piece inside if a large capacity. Epoxy in somewhere, two L fittings for a gas gage, with a length of heavy duty plastic tubing between them. Epoxy the top on, add filler cap and drain outlet, some mounting loops or fittings for hold down straps, let it cure for 3-4 days and fly it. Aircraft Spruce has epoxy suitable for gas tanks. Probably so do some of the others. Denny Rowe wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Me Too! Denny Rowe do not archive ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Charlie > I sure would love more info. I was considering bending one up but wasn't > sure if I could get it sealed. > Thanks > George >> > >> Richard, you can build a tank using pop-style rivets & 'proseal' >>sealant & never get near a welder. If you give dimensions to a good >>sheet metal shop, they can bend up all the pieces for you & all it will >>take is the sacrifice of a couple of sets of clothing (kinda messy work) >>& the skill to run a rivet puller. If you want more info, let us know. >> >>Charlie >>(I love plain text) ;-) --------------------------------- Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:35 PM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight tendances --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" suspect all Kolbs are similiar in this respect. If you get it trimmed for high cruise..then you will have to hold down on the stick when on in the pattern at low throttle settings,>> Hi Don, by the time I get the Xtra into the air (Soon), I should be used to the problem from flying the Challenger. It has a flaperons cum trim system and flaps should not be lowered above 50 knots. In the circuit the nose has to be held up and the throttle reduced to lower the speed when the flap is applied. Unfortunately putting on flap drops the nose so you come down finals stick right back, nose up, low throttle setting. the only thing right is that if you relax concentration the nose will go down and the speed will go up and in that configuration that is a GOOD THING. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:36 PM PST US From: "Guy Morgan" Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly gas tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" Howdy Kolbers, Been having problems posting lately. Hopefully this'll go through. My question is for Don Gherardini. Did your 10 gallon gas tank fit into the stock Fly cage without any mods other than the bracket you welded in? My Fly goes through 5 gallons pretty quick haulin' my heavy butt around. She also likes to cruise at around 70-75 mph. That's where the "step" seems to be. Makes for too many fuel stops before I've satisfied my cravin' for aviatin'. Thanks, Guy Morgan KGLS based Firefly driver do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:51:41 PM PST US From: Guy Morgan Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Gas Tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: Guy Morgan Howdy Kolbers, Been having problems posting lately from my Hotmail account. Hopefully this'll go through using Yahoo. My question is for Don Gherardini. Did your 10 gallon gas tank fit into the stock Fly cage without any mods other than the bracket you welded in? My Fly goes through 5 gallons pretty quick haulin' my heavy butt around. She also likes to cruise at around 70-75 mph. That's where the "step" seems to be. Makes for too many fuel stops before I've satisfied my cravin' for aviatin'. Thanks, Guy Morgan KGLS based Firefly driver do not archive --------------------------------- Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:37 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: D-Day --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 6/7/2005 6:30:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, pj.ladd@btinternet.com writes: > According to Hollywood there were only Americans on the beaches. > > No, I apologise. The Brits did get a mention in `The Longest Day`. About 25 > seconds on screen, just before the Americans dropped on St Mere Eglise and > wrapped up the campaign. > > I wish that we had a film industry. Then WE would have won the war. > > Cheers > Pat > > do not archive > > you DID win the war...... Sept 6, 1940, over a year before we even got into it....called the Battle of Britain George Randolph Firestar drive in The Villages, Fl ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:21 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Kolb-List: Need advise about a Taskem digital altimeter? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman I got a used Taskem digital altimeter that uses a 9 volt battery. Does any one know if it is ok to wire it into to my 12 volt system and eliminate the little 9 volt battery? Will three extra volts kill the instrument? I keep forgetting to turn it off, so of course when I get back it just ate the battery. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:06 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Kolb-List: Need advise about Taskem digital altimeter --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman I have Taskem digital altimeter that uses a 9 volt battery. Does any one know if it is ok to wire it into to my 12 volt system and eliminate the little 9 volt battery? Will three extra volts kill the instrument? I keep forgetting to turn it off, so of course when I get back it just ate the battery. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:55 PM PST US From: gtalexander@att.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need advise about Taskem digital altimeter --> Kolb-List message posted by: gtalexander@att.net Gene: According to the write up on the Spruce web site, they will take up to 30 VDC. See: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/taskem.php Hope to see you Saturday. George Alexander -------------- Original message from Eugene Zimmerman : -------------- > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > I have Taskem digital altimeter that uses a 9 volt battery. > Does any one know if it is ok to wire it into to my 12 volt system and > eliminate the little 9 volt battery? > Will three extra volts kill the instrument? > > I keep forgetting to turn it off, so of course when I get back it just > ate the battery. > > > > > > Gene: According to the write up on the Spruce web site, they will take up to 30 VDC. See: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/taskem.php Hope to see you Saturday. George Alexander -------------- Original message from Eugene Zimmerman eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com: -------------- -- Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman I have Taskem digital altimeter that uses a 9 volt battery. Does any one know if it is ok to wire it into to my 12 volt system and eliminate the little 9 volt battery? Will three extra volts kill the instrument? I keep forgetting to turn it off, so of course when I get back it just ate the battery. Chat, FAQ, ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:33 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need advise about a Taskem digital altimeter? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." go to http://www.opamplabs.com/zenerreg.htm That shows you the ckt and computes the resistor and zener wattage. You can stick a milliammeter in series with one of the batt. leads to tell you the load. And ck the 12V line...it may be higher. Bob N. very old EE ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:08 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Today was a beautiful day in Florida after 2 weeks of rain/ pre Hurricane weather. I decided to haul the Firefly(Puddle Buster) to the lake and do some exploring. So far all of my flights have been test flights. I did a 1 hour flight over Puzzle Lake. It is a flooded marsh that has many changing rivers that converge on both ends. I flew at 50 Ft and 55 mph. I saw deer, Roseatte Spoonbills and more monster Gators than you walk across. It was one of the most memorable flights I have had. I have only started to explore the potential of this aircraft. A Kolb Firefly on floats can go where no one dares to tread. At no time was I in compromise if I had a power failure. Thanks Homer for a wonderful design. Steve Boetto FF#007 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:19 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly gas tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Guy, If you browsed around my website and saw that bracket I made...that was all the modification I did. and I went to the trouble of welding tabs on the corners of the bracket/airframe junctions so I could put in the smaller "square" if I ever needed to install the 5 gal tank back into the bird. so now the 2 brackets that surround each tank are interchangeable. just 4 an-4 bolts and the fuel lines and the strap...oh ya..I used a different bottom alum plate that fit the big tank. BTW...the 10 gallon plastic tank came from quad city challenger.. The only real problem was the extra height makes it very hard to fill the tank from a 5 gallon can...so I bought a fuel jug from a race car aftermarket place that had the outlet on the very edge of the jug, and it came with a long neck hose....fills easy from this jug. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:22 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 09:24 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: >and more monster Gators than you walk across. >A Kolb Firefly on floats can go where no one dares to tread. I dunno Steve, those gators may LIKE flying snacks! ;-) -- Robert (fellow water-flyer) ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:26 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Ah, man, you're cruel, ya know it ?? Does that ever sound great. Envious Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: Just for fun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com > > Today was a beautiful day in Florida after 2 weeks of rain/ pre Hurricane > weather. I decided to haul the Firefly(Puddle Buster) to the lake and do > some > exploring. So far all of my flights have been test flights. I did a 1 hour > flight over Puzzle Lake. It is a flooded marsh that has many changing > rivers that > converge on both ends. I flew at 50 Ft and 55 mph. I saw deer, Roseatte > Spoonbills and more monster Gators than you walk across. It was one of > the most > memorable flights I have had. I have only started to explore the > potential of > this aircraft. A Kolb Firefly on floats can go where no one dares to > tread. At > no time was I in compromise if I had a power failure. > Thanks Homer for a wonderful design. > > Steve Boetto > FF#007 > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:41 PM PST US From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> A Kolb Firefly on floats can go where no one dares to tread. At no time was I in compromise if I had a power failure. Thanks Homer for a wonderful design. Steve Boetto FF#007 --------------------------- (RD) Stop that right now! You're NOT making me buy floats :-) Cheers, Rusty (single rotor engine "block" mounted on SS) ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:56 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Gators in this area are hunted in season so they tend to be Pussy Cats when confronted. do not archive steve ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:23 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com thanks do not archive ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:38 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just for fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 6/14/2005 10:50:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, 13brv3c@bellsouth.net writes: > Stop that right now! You're NOT making me buy floats :-) > > Cheers, > Rusty (single rotor engine "block" mounted on SS) > > Sorry Rusty, just tellin it like it is. This is the best time I have had flying in 30 years and I don't even need a license, just proper training. Steve do not archive ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:35 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Father's Day Fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Terry, Just looked at the weather. Forcast is thunderstorms for Saturday. If we do have the fly-in on Sat, I'll be there and please add Alan Mancus (He was there last year. Has been rebuilding his Kolb and just got it flying again this past Sat.) If the fly-in has to be on Sun. then I won't be able to make it, but Alan will. This ought to play havoc with your count! Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive