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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Subaru Engine (woody)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: Subaru Engine (Charlie England)
3. 11:01 AM - Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll (PATRICK LADD)
4. 11:31 AM - Re: D-Day (PATRICK LADD)
5. 11:36 AM - [ Dave Pelletier (AzDave) ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
6. 11:59 AM - More fun that pecking on a wristwatch calculator (Rusty)
7. 12:04 PM - Re: More fun that pecking on a wristwatch calculator (Rusty)
8. 07:09 PM - Re: Flight to Homer's (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 08:24 PM - Re: Wingding (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
10. 09:04 PM - Re: D-Day (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
11. 10:41 PM - Re: Wingding (DAquaNut@AOL.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> Good advice
> Its the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it". I wonder why they
> thought that the factory fuel injection was not as good as carbs..
Because everyone knows that "real" airplane engines have carbs and dual
ignition. That is why continental and lycoming are stuck with 1930's
technology. If they change anything the liability issues will kill them
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
The hangar flyers were probably just superstitious, but...
There are good reasons to be cautious with automotive fuel injection.
The various Subaru (& most other brands) injection computers have
literally dozens of problem detection modes, most of which will shut the
engine down. If you don't find & work around each & every one on the
test stand, you may discover it 100 feet in the air over trees after
takeoff on your 73rd flight.
Many are being flown successfully, but someone had to find all the
inputs to the computer that can cause shutdown & add jumpers, resistors,
etc to 'trick' the computer into believing that the car wheels are
turning at the right speed, the water temp isn't too high, the tranny
isn't in park, etc etc. All those 'tricks' add failure modes because
every jumper is another risk point to break or come loose, causing
engine stoppage.
I much prefer injection to a carb, but I want to be aware of all the
risk factors.
Charlie
Ron wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
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>Thanks Woody
>Good advice
>Its the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it". I wonder why they
>thought that the factory fuel injection was not as good as carbs..
>
>=================================================
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>
>On Jun 17, 2005, at 7:37 PM, woody wrote:
>
>
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
>>
>>There used to be a guy with one on an Ultra star and he seemd happy
>>with it.
>>If the engine is still running good don't mess with it. I have seen a
>>couple
>>improper rebuilds cause major problems. Usually the extra safety items
>>that
>>are added fail first eg dual ignition or carbs. If they don't actually
>>fail
>>there seems to be an estra ordinary time spent getting them to run
>>right. I
>>have a book written by a guy that had over 900 flying hours on a soob
>>that
>>he just removed from a car and put in the plane, fuel injection and
>>all.
>>Even with all those hours on it in the air he was always told at
>>semiinars
>>he gave that he had to get rid of the fuel injection and install dual
>>ignition. Check with Sooby users to find out what the actual all up
>>weight
>>will be. Have fun
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Ron" <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
What I did turned out to be too close for comfort.>>
Well done Steve. Alls well that ends well
180 `s just after takeoff are usually a no - no.
My flying partner did just that in a Thruster after a con rod broke. He
wasn`t so lucky and just clipped the corn growing on the approach.
Ho rolled the plane into a ball although his only injuries were only
bruising from the safety straps. The plane never flew again.
Incidentally I fly a 503 single ignition and have had no trouble except with
old petrol. The drive belt has shed its teeth twice and left me with a
screaming engine and the prop idling.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I helped ( the American Eagle Squadron) ,
Hi Flycrazy,
in that case thanks from this side. We were damned pleased to see you.
One thing I always find sad is the fact that the Poles were never given
proper acknowledgement for the part they played.
By the time the Polish flyers arrived in Britain they had fought the Germans
in Poland, escaped into France and fought them again there. Much to the
annoyance of the French as the Poles actually wanted to kill Germans and the
official French attitude was `don`t shoot at the Germans it only makes them
mad`.
Then the Poles escaped to Britain and at that time they were almost the only
fliers who had actually flown in anger. Certainly the RAF had done what they
could in the retreat across Europe and taken heavy losses but they were
hardly a cohesive fighting force. Then we wouldn`t let the Poles fight
beacause their English wasn`t good enough to be understood over the R/T?????
Then at the end of the war having unforgivably agreed to let Stalin have
Poland we didn`t even include them in the Victory Parade because it might
upset the Russians, until a near mutiny convinced the authorities to change
their minds.
As Shakespear said `Put not your trust in princes`. The West shafted the
Poles royally.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | More fun that pecking on a wristwatch calculator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Richard,
Attached is a W&B spreadsheet that I've been playing with. If it feels a
little warm, that's because I stole it from someone on the Sonerai list :-)
This particular spreadsheet is cool because you can add, and subtract
weights. I basically started with the original W&B of ss-003, and modified
it to fit my current options, so it's only the roughest of estimates at the
moment.
I still don't know what I'll do about fuel. The stock fuel location will be
hard to use as storage, so I'd rather use it for fuel, so it will be out of
my way. It doesn't do the CG any favors though.
Cheers,
Rusty
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| Subject: | More fun that pecking on a wristwatch calculator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
No, I didn't forget that the silly list won't allow attachments. I just
forgot to change the reply address. Ignore.
Rusty
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Subject: Kolb-List: More fun that pecking on a wristwatch calculator
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Richard,
Attached is a W&B spreadsheet that I've been playing with. If it feels a
little warm, that's because I stole it from someone on the Sonerai list :-)
This particular spreadsheet is cool because you can add, and subtract
weights. I basically started with the original W&B of ss-003, and modified
it to fit my current options, so it's only the roughest of estimates at the
moment.
I still don't know what I'll do about fuel. The stock fuel location will be
hard to use as storage, so I'd rather use it for fuel, so it will be out of
my way. It doesn't do the CG any favors though.
Cheers,
Rusty
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Homer's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Hey Terry,
Just a note to say "thank you,Terry" for another well coordinated
annual Homer Kolb fly-in event.
Thanks to your efforts there was another excellent turn out. Did you
get a count of how many planes flew in?
The weather was great, the food was great, and Homer Clara were great,
The pilots were great.
One suggestion for next year???
How about getting a great big "Thank You" card for everyone to sign
and perhaps indicate which model plane they flew in to present to
Homer and Clara before we leave?
Thanks again Terry,
and most of all "Thank You" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (((( Homer ))))
Hey guys, The Man is a Treasure.
On Jun 17, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Terry Frantz wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
>
> Gang,
>
> I am gearing up for tomorrow's flight to Homer's. Will be at
> Smoketown
> Airport at 7:30/ 7:45 am to meet up with any and all that want to join
> a
> group flight to Homer's. Want to leave Smoketown no later than
> 8:15/8:30 heading East. Looking to spending another great day with
> Clara and Homer at their farm talking flying and looking at each
> other's
> planes.
>
> Right now it looks like a group of 24 going to be there. Hope
> everybody
> has a good flight including those braving the highways! Not to late to
> decide to join us. Will be on communication channel 122.75 for the
> flight.
>
> Terry - Firefly #95
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Flycrazy8@aol.com
Yes Steve I would like to see your Wing Thingy and you techinique for
folding the wings of your Firefly single handly....
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Flycrazy8@aol.com
Yes Pat, The Poles were excellent airmen worthy of praise..If Hitler hadn't
changed his tactics by bombing London instead of his nearly successful
bombing of the airfields things would have turned out different for England ..For
I'm sure you remember that the Poles helped save the day when the RAF was so
depleted of pilots during the Battle for Britain that they were called on to
fill the shortage and help turn the tide against Germany .
I too was saying Hurray for the Polish flyers.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/18/2005 10:25:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Flycrazy8@aol.com writes:
Yes Steve I would like to see your Wing Thingy and you techinique for
folding the wings of your Firefly single handly....
Yeah,
Me too Steeve,
Ed
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