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1. 05:08 AM - Re: 582 problem (Kirk Smith)
2. 05:40 AM - Re: Spring Cleaning (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: Spring Cleaning (Terry Frantz)
4. 06:50 AM - Homer fly-in pictures. (Terry Frantz)
5. 07:26 AM - Re: Spring Cleaning (N27SB@aol.com)
6. 08:30 AM - Rich mix (Kirk Smith)
7. 09:02 AM - Re: Spring Cleaning (DAquaNut@aol.com)
8. 09:15 AM - Re: 582 problem (HShack@aol.com)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to (Jack & Louise Hart)
10. 09:56 AM - Re: Spring Cleaning (N27SB@aol.com)
11. 10:27 AM - Altitude Is Your Friend (Jack & Louise Hart)
12. 10:27 AM - Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to Winchester, IN (John Hauck)
13. 03:47 PM - Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll (PATRICK LADD)
14. 04:56 PM - " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (John Hauck)
15. 06:31 PM - summer evenings (robert bean)
16. 06:48 PM - Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll (James and Cathy Tripp)
17. 07:40 PM - Re: summer evenings (Richard Swiderwski)
18. 09:44 PM - Re: Subaru Engine (Jerry Curtin)
19. 10:14 PM - Re: Subaru Engine (Larry Bourne)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Seems like I read somewhere that fuel level in the float bowl can have an
impact on lean/rich at full throttle........
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> The club plane is a pig on gas. probably over 7 gph. The egt is around
> 1100. All jets are factory spec. Needle is at the leanest setting. Plugs
are
> black and wet. Max rpm is 6000. What could be the cause. Prop pitch
should
> be okay. I suspect carbs or perhaps timing. Has anyone had a similar
> experience?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Hi Ed, I think everything that was free is spoken for. If someone changes
their mind I will let you know
steve
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
N27SB@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
>To All:
>I have a couple of items that I need to get rid of
>
>Used Full enclosure for a Standard FireFly - Free, Just pay for Boxing and
>shipping
>
>950# rated Aluminum Czech Floats (Perfect for a Firestar II) $1250.00 + S/H.
>Normally $3500.00 FOB Fla
>
>Enclosed FireFly trailer $2000.00
>
>BRS 500# Softpack $800.00
>
>BIG oversized FireFly Wheels,Tires and Brakes, Free + S/H
>
>Duane da Plane gets first Dibs on the Firefly stuff.
>
>I just finished my new hanger and I do not want to put his stuff in it.
>
>Steve Boetto
>FF #007
>
>
>
>
Steve: is the BRS still for sale? I thought the Guy from Minnesota
was buying it.
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Homer fly-in pictures. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Ken,
Will contact George Alexander and see if he is willing to include your
pictures in his web page. He did an excellent job on last years fly-in
and I sure hope he will do it again this year. Let you know. If you
have additional copies, I would be interested.
Interesting how we are both in the same line of work, at least you still
are, I'm retired. What school did you attend?
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Hi Terry, I think that it is sold but it has not been confirmed. I will let
you know.
steve do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
I did read it somewhere, fuel level in the float bowl does affect lean/rich mixture.
I do still have some memory left. Though fragmented and scattered.........
http://www.leadingedge-airfoils.com/techhelp.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/2005 7:40:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
N27SB@aol.com writes:
Hi Ed, I think everything that was free is spoken for. If someone changes
their mind I will let you know
Steve,
I was interested in the brakes wheels and tires. I would like to know
the price on them. Surely you arent giving them away.
Thanks ,
Ed
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:31:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
duesouth@govital.net writes:
The club plane is a pig on gas. probably over 7 gph. The egt is around
1100. All jets are factory spec. Needle is at the leanest setting. Plugs are
black and wet. Max rpm is 6000. What could be the cause. Prop pitch should
be okay. I suspect carbs or perhaps timing. Has anyone had a similar
experience?
Have you cleaned the air cleaner[s]?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Winchester, IN@roxy.matronics.com |
| Subject: | Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to |
Winchester, IN
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Winchester,
IN
At 11:23 PM 6/21/05 EDT, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
>
>
>Great report on your flight. Very enjoyable reading.
>
>Bill Varnes
>Original Kolb FireStar
>Audubon NJ
>Do Not Archive
Bill,
Now the fun begins. My shop is scattered in two different locations, and my
tools and engine manual are all in boxes. The boxes are marked but they are
stacked in with lots of other boxes. The good thing is that the FireFly is
just two miles away. I have already moved a shop table and light to the
hangar. I have to make hanging brackets for the light and smooth the
crushed rock to level the table, etc. The best part is that I will be able
to get away from moving dirt and seeding and watering new lawns in the middle
or heat of the day to work on the FireFly.
I want to get it back in the air. I am afraid I have caught the John H.
bug. I can fully understand why he takes rambles to Alaska. There is no
substitute for seeing what is at or on the route to the next airport. Even
though my ground speed was painfully slow, I had plenty of time to look at
everything as I passed by. The memory foam seat cushion did its job and I
did not feel any discomfort. At times the thermals and dust devils would
grab me but all it took was a bit of stick and/or rudder pressure to keep
heading the desired direction. In fact after a while I searched out thermal
roads so I could make better ground speed. You can tell when you are on one
when the FireFly starts a little dance from side to side. You can actually
hear the air rushing up beside the fuselage. And for the most part all the
people I met were very pro grass roots aviation.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/05 11:03:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
DAquaNut@aol.com writes:
> Surely you arent giving them away.
>
> Thanks ,
> Ed
>
Yes Ed I was giving them away. I try to do what I can to help if I am getting
rid of stuff. I try to do it on a first response basis. Guy Morgan responded
first but if he changes his mind I will let you know. BTW don't call me
Surely. :-)
I have some other stuff I will list later.
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steve
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| Subject: | Altitude Is Your Friend |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 7752L Make/Model: C172 Description: 172, P172, R172, Skyhawk,
Hawk XP, Cutla
Date: 06/21/2005 Time: 1930
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: COLORADO SPRINGS State: CO Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT ON LANDING, FOUND AN ARROW STUCK IN THE RIGHT WING, COLORADO SPRINGS,
CO
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to Winchester, |
IN
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
John H.
| bug. I can fully understand why he takes rambles to Alaska. There
is no
| substitute for seeing what is at or on the route to the next
airport. |
| Jack B. Hart FF004
| Winchester, IN
Jack H/All:
Sorry to hear of this terrible disease you have aquired. I hear it is
incurable, however, it can be temporarily arrested as long as one has
a flyable Kolb aircraft, fuel, decent weather, and a place to go. ;-)
Better get busy, get the FF flyable again, pack your bag and fly.
Looking forward to our flight to the Upper Pennisula of Michigan and
Oshkosh next month. We had such a good flight out West. It was great
to be able to spend more time flying with others than solo for a
change.
At one time I had considered not doing any more long solo flights in
the MKIII because of my age. Last year at 65, the flight to Alaska
was a little more difficult for me physically. My flight days were
shorter and I spent more time on the ground visiting than ever before.
This year, at 66, with a wonderful 15 day flight to Monument Valley,
Bonneville Salt Flats, Alvord Desert, Reno, the Los Angeles area and
home across the country to Alabama in three days, I felt good, the
airplane performed well, and I figure I may still have a few years of
long cross country travel left in me if I can afford to put av gas in
the tank.
Jack, you will find wonderful people along your route of flight. Most
will be more than helpful. Some won't know what to say when they see
you land and taxi up to the FBO. Others will say things that do not
come across to us well, as we will probably not understand their
intent. I am learning, very slowly, to smile, nod my head, get my
fuel, and avoid conflict and confrontation with any one that does not
see my kind of aviating the same way I do. In all the years I have
been doing this and all the places my little airplanes have carried
me, there have only been a small hand full of ass holes out there.
Best to ignore them, if at all possible. The good folks more than
make up for the miserable few that do not understand and appreciate
grass roots aviation.
Take care,
john h
MKIII/912S
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
flying cross-country in 1-26 gliders and each time was a totally unique
experience.>>
Hi Steve,
I remember the first time I left the field in a glider on my qualifying 50
miles x country for my Silver.
The physical act of turning your tail towards the field and heading off
downwind knowing that the field is now out of reach up wind and your next
landing will be (probably) in a field somewhere.
I found it much more traumatic than the first solo.
Of course there is always the chance that when you land out you will be
comforted by a farmers beautiful daughter who will supply tea and sandwiches
and TLC while you wait for the retrieve crew to turn up.
Fluttering eyelashes, heaving bosom, `Oo you must be very brave to fly in
something with no engine` Sigh!
In your dreams. You will probably be met by the farmer who will want to sue
you for destroying his crops and forcing him into immediate bankruptcy.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered |
Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
off
| downwind knowing that the field is now out of reach up wind and your
next
| landing will be (probably) in a field somewhere.
| I found it much more traumatic than the first solo.
Pat/All:
An excellent reason to fly a Kolb powered by a reliable engine.
john h
MKIII/912S
Titus, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
All: Even though it was breezy all day up here in the north country,
when the sun gets low the air stills. About 8:00PM I rolled my
masterpiece out onto the freshly mowed runway and fired up
the suzuki. After a good warmup I went out to the north, looked
down and noticed the ASI dead. Durn bug cover. Went around
my little pattern and made the prettiest landing, undistracted by
that dopey gauge. Sure wish it was like this more often, 65F
30.3" Hg., dead calm, crisp and fine. Better take advantage while
I can. .5 hour=1gallon gas.
-BB do not archive
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| Subject: | Rotax 503 Failure Poll |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: " James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Gang,
Sorry to take so long in responding to this question but my computer has
been down for a week while I did some work on the house. Here's the problem
in a nutshell: I put a finger strainer on the end of each fuel pick-up. That
wasn't too bad except the fuel strainers had a one way fuel flow device in
them which ended up causing one tank to empty before the other. When I
landed, one tank had about 3 gallons in it and the other one was bone dry
and sucking air. Good lesson learned.
James Tripp, FSII
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAquaNut@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 Failure Poll
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/16/2005 2:24:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jtripp@elmore.rr.com writes:
Co. helped me fix the fuel pluming problem the next day and I haven't had
a
problem since.
Could you enlighten us on the plumbing problem you had. Might save us from
the same problem.
Ed
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
OK Bob, you got me to turn green. ...Richard Swiderski
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert bean
Subject: Kolb-List: summer evenings
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
All: Even though it was breezy all day up here in the north country,
when the sun gets low the air stills. About 8:00PM I rolled my
masterpiece out onto the freshly mowed runway and fired up
the suzuki. After a good warmup I went out to the north, looked
down and noticed the ASI dead. Durn bug cover. Went around
my little pattern and made the prettiest landing, undistracted by
that dopey gauge. Sure wish it was like this more often, 65F
30.3" Hg., dead calm, crisp and fine. Better take advantage while
I can. .5 hour=1gallon gas.
-BB do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Hello Richard and all, Re: weight of a Subaru install, here is a web site
that builds them for RV's. The installation can vary but the weight should
be pretty close. Click on engines, then FAQ and look at the fourth question
down. It states the installed weight as approx 327lbs. Much too heavy for
the Kolb I would think. www.eggenfellneraircraft.com
Jerry.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
<rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> The Suburu E81 with redrive & starter will weigh in at 200 lb & up & get
you
> 90-100hp. Being a flat 4, there are no resonance issues & they have proven
> themselves in aircraft for going on 20yrs. The Geo Metro (Suzuki) 3cyl
will
> weigh as little 145lb & put out 55-64hp (90-100hp turbocharged & 180 lbs.)
> The 4 cyl version is about 180lbs & 80-90hp. There are conversion kits
for
> the Suzuki's for about $2300. My SPG-2 gear reduction is rated at 135hp
> (4-stroke) & will work on either the 3 or 4 cyl as is, & on the Suburu
with
> a different adapter. The Suzuki's are fuel injected & have a bullet proof
> reputation, though they will not have the smoothness of a flat 4.
>
> Richard Swiderski
> Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel & gaining on Big Lar
>
>
> -List: Subaru Engine
>
>
> Ron
> I looked at Subaru engines when I was considering engines for my MKIIIc.
My
> view of the engine is that it is one of the best automotive engines
> available for aircraft use. I talked to a guy that put a direct drive
Subaru
>
> on his MKIIIc. He said he was happy with the setup but he sold the
airplane
> and the first thing the buyer did was put a rotax on it. Sometimes
builders
> overlook the negatives of their creations? I really considered the engine
> but it just seemed to be too heavy. My VW is heaver than the 912 Rotaxes a
nd
>
> that has caused me some issues with weight and balance but I'm happy with
> the setup. I don't remember the installed weight of the Subaru but it seem
> like it is 30-50 lbs more than the VW and that just seemed to be too much
> for any of the big Kolbs.
>
> My $.02 worth
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron" <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
> >
> >> Are there any Kolbers with a Subaru motor on an M3. If there are I'd
> >> like any feedback that you may have. I found a great deal on an RDU
> >> for the Subaru, the motor itself is inexpensive and I am told that it
> >> will fit the Rotax mount on an Mark III Xtra.
> >
> > Ron
> > Sierra Vista Arizona
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I believe that's the 2.5 liter, 190 hp engine for RV airplanes. Too big and
too much power for Kolbs. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the 80 - 100 hp
Subaru engines are in the same weight ballpark as the VW engines.
Installed, with radiator, etc., probably a little more.
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
>
> Hello Richard and all, Re: weight of a Subaru install, here is a web site
> that builds them for RV's. The installation can vary but the weight should
> be pretty close. Click on engines, then FAQ and look at the fourth
> question
> down. It states the installed weight as approx 327lbs. Much too heavy for
> the Kolb I would think. www.eggenfellneraircraft.com
> Jerry.
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>>
>> The Suburu E81 with redrive & starter will weigh in at 200 lb & up & get
> you
>> 90-100hp. Being a flat 4, there are no resonance issues & they have
>> proven
>> themselves in aircraft for going on 20yrs. The Geo Metro (Suzuki) 3cyl
> will
>> weigh as little 145lb & put out 55-64hp (90-100hp turbocharged & 180
>> lbs.)
>> The 4 cyl version is about 180lbs & 80-90hp. There are conversion kits
> for
>> the Suzuki's for about $2300. My SPG-2 gear reduction is rated at 135hp
>> (4-stroke) & will work on either the 3 or 4 cyl as is, & on the Suburu
> with
>> a different adapter. The Suzuki's are fuel injected & have a bullet
>> proof
>> reputation, though they will not have the smoothness of a flat 4.
>>
>> Richard Swiderski
>> Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel & gaining on Big Lar
>>
>>
>> -List: Subaru Engine
>>
>>
>> Ron
>> I looked at Subaru engines when I was considering engines for my MKIIIc.
> My
>> view of the engine is that it is one of the best automotive engines
>> available for aircraft use. I talked to a guy that put a direct drive
> Subaru
>>
>> on his MKIIIc. He said he was happy with the setup but he sold the
> airplane
>> and the first thing the buyer did was put a rotax on it. Sometimes
> builders
>> overlook the negatives of their creations? I really considered the engine
>> but it just seemed to be too heavy. My VW is heaver than the 912 Rotaxes
>> a
> nd
>>
>> that has caused me some issues with weight and balance but I'm happy with
>> the setup. I don't remember the installed weight of the Subaru but it
>> seem
>> like it is 30-50 lbs more than the VW and that just seemed to be too much
>> for any of the big Kolbs.
>>
>> My $.02 worth
>>
>> Rick Neilsen
>> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron" <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Subaru Engine
>>
>>
>> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
>> >
>> >> Are there any Kolbers with a Subaru motor on an M3. If there are I'd
>> >> like any feedback that you may have. I found a great deal on an RDU
>> >> for the Subaru, the motor itself is inexpensive and I am told that it
>> >> will fit the Rotax mount on an Mark III Xtra.
>> >
>> > Ron
>> > Sierra Vista Arizona
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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