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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Recent Trip (ron wehba)
2. 07:56 AM - Re: Recent Trip (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
3. 09:46 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar (woody)
4. 10:45 AM - Re: Homer fly-in pictures. (James, Ken)
5. 12:22 PM - Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (PATRICK LADD)
6. 12:52 PM - Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (John Hauck)
7. 01:17 PM - evening flight in England (PATRICK LADD)
8. 01:52 PM - Re: evening flight in England (robert bean)
9. 02:02 PM - Re: Re: evening flight in England (John Hauck)
10. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: evening flight in England (PATRICK LADD)
11. 03:51 PM - Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (PATRICK LADD)
12. 04:24 PM - Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (Kirk Smith)
13. 04:59 PM - Incident (Herb Gayheart)
14. 05:04 PM - crash (Herb Gayheart)
15. 07:30 PM - Recent Kolb Trip (John Williamson)
16. 07:53 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (John Hauck)
17. 08:38 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Larry Bourne)
18. 09:21 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Bob Dalton)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
hi john,really sorry you had to "rough it", bet it was hot huh?
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From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Recent Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
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> Just got back from Big Bend area of Texas. Gary H. and I had a great time.
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> It wasn't quite as primitive as I was ready for. I know John H. was
> worried
> about me not getting my milk and donuts for breakfast, so check out this
> picture of breakfast this morning:
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/100_3882.JPG.
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> I will have a complete update on the trip in a day or two.
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
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> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 836 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
John/John
Milk: $1.49
Doughnuts: $1.65
"Primitive
Area Photo: PRICELESS!
AzDave
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> It wasn't quite as primitive as I was ready for. I know John H. was
> worried
> about me not getting my milk and donuts for breakfast, so check out this
> picture of breakfast this morning:
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/100_3882.JPG.
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
If can't find the info but you have any questions or concerns just post it
to the list and someone will answer. Welcome aboard.
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From: <jctuck3@excite.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Twinstar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jctuck3@excite.com" <jctuck3@excite.com>
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> Greetings all! I am new to the bulletin board and have recently purchased
a Kolb Mark II Twinstar; it was originally built by W.C. Ferguson, the
designer of the Fergy. Does anyone on the list have access to the original
owner's construction/service manual for this model? The New Kolb Aircraft
company does not offer support for models this old, and I have not been
successful in searching the Kolb list archives regarding the matter. Any
assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. JulianTS 0142
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| Subject: | Homer fly-in pictures. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Terry
I can only read e-mail from home since I'm using the schools web site
remotely, I can't post back, so if you want I can e-mail from my house to
you just forward your home e-mail to thejamesgang5@comcast.net and I will be
glad to send you.
I graduated from Temple University. But my real education came from Fort
Benning home of wayward boy's :-)
Ken James
Drafting Design Technology Instructor
Berks Career and Technology Center
East Campus
3307 Friedensburg Rd.
Oley, Pa. 19506
610-987-6201 Ext. 3532
Kdjames@berkscareer.com
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From: Terry Frantz [mailto:tkrolfe@usadatanet.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Homer fly-in pictures.
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Ken,
Will contact George Alexander and see if he is willing to include your
pictures in his web page. He did an excellent job on last years fly-in
and I sure hope he will do it again this year. Let you know. If you
have additional copies, I would be interested.
Interesting how we are both in the same line of work, at least you still
are, I'm retired. What school did you attend?
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered |
Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
An excellent reason to fly a Kolb powered by a reliable engine.>>
Yeah, I suppose,
but the place to learn to fly is in a glider. In my first log book I have
the first 3 pages without a flight more than 6 minutes. Went solo at flight
57 with about 4 hours flight time BUT about 50 take offs and landings. The
bit in between is the easy bit.
Pilots who learn in power wouldn`t accumulate 50 take offs and landings in
20 hours. In the 60`s glider launching cable breaks ocurred about every 4th
launch so the equivelant to an engine out was practiced 10 or 12 times in my
first 4 hours flying. How many engine outs does the average PPL practice
before he goes solo?
It was also cheaper to fly gliders. If we prepaid, the club was always
strapped for cash, we got 5 launches( behind a Ford F100) for 1.(about 2
dollars) If we bought the launches separately it was 4 for 1.
The main advantage of gliding was not a financial one. It was the fact that
unless everyone worked, no one flew. In the UK there is no such thing as
ringing the flightline and asking for your machine to be ready at a certain
time, fly for an hour and then go home. You are either there in the morning
to get the gliders out of the hanger or you are there at night to put them
away. In between time the gliders must be retrieved and pushed back to the
launch point, retrieve vehicles driven, flight log kept, instructing to be
done, the launch vehicle needs a driver and a spotter. Busy , busy. This
builds a great club/team spirit. In a flying club you probably never meet
other members accept at the Annual dance.
While you have the strength, glide. When you slow up and would rather press
a switch than lay on your stomach attaching a launching wire switch to
power.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered |
Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
john h
|
| Yeah, I suppose,
| but the place to learn to fly is in a glider.
| Pat
Pat/All:
All powered aircraft are gliders when they quit making noise.
I agree, the place to learn to fly gliders is in as glider.
However, the place to fly powered airplanes is in a powered airplane.
I do not know about others, but but my log books are full of landings.
It is the nature of the type of flying I do in Kolb aircraft.
Never experienced having someone "do" my airplane or aircraft since I
was still flying for Uncle Sam. Kolb flying for me is exactly that.
I do everything. About the only time I get away without doing it all
is when I am flying for Kolb Aircraft and one of the guys takes care
of fueling my airplane. On those few occassions it really feels good
to be treated nicely.
Like I said a while back to the Kolb List, "Many Kolb pilots
experience their first engine off landing on their first engine
failure." There is quit a difference between an idling prop on a Kolb
and a dead stick. Personally, I would rather be aware and accustomed
to those flight characteristics prior to an actual engine out
emergency. Much nicer doing dead stick landings at a big airport with
lots of room and 3 or 4 thousand feet of runway.
john h
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| Subject: | evening flight in England |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
when the sun gets low the air stills.>>
Hi,
your post just hit the right note. Here is last nights flight.
It has been hot, by our standards, 80 to 90 for a week but with with a strongish
gusty South wind which unfortunately did not drop in the evening. No flying.
Yesterday was the same except that the wind ceased. In the evening it was beautiful.
My inspector had done my annual C of A the day before, leaving me to do the flying
checks. A timed climb from 1 to 2000 ft and a flight to VNE. This should be
done in smooth conditions and last night was perfect.
Flew at 7.30 pm from my strip, which really is a strip at the moment as the runway
is the only cut bit in a field of mowing grass. Climbed into a cloudless sky
with just a few little tickles from fading thermals. Did my climb by my stopwatch
and then pushed the speed up to 100 mph. All straightforward.
Landed to check the plane over after pushing up to VNE and to read my stopwatch.
The dial of my cheapo imitation Brietling is too small to read without changing
glasses, a complication I can do without in an open cockpit.
Took off again, in shirt sleeves and shorts about 8.15pm. Did the climb check again
to confirm my stopwatch reading and then wandered of in a slow climb to 3000ft
agl.along the edge of Salisbury Plain looking for Crop Circles. The visibility
was around 20 miles with the lowering sun casting long shadows across deep
green fields. Columns of smoke from garden bonfires rose straight
up and there were a few tractors working on the farms below, getting in the hay..
I flew along the Ridgeway, an old neolithic track, old when Stonehenge was built,
which stretches for miles across the rolling hills and with the shadows being
cast I could see the shapes if the hillcamps where the local tribes lived
before the Romans came, and the hillocks of the tumuli where their warriors are
buried.
Silbury Hill, the largest man made hill in Europe showed up to port. No one knows
what it was for but the Roman Road from Londinium to Aque Sulis (Bath) goes
ROUND it.
Just over there is the town in which I live, soft yellow limestone glowing in the
sunlight. Saxons lived there on the side of the river about 600 years after
Christ was born, and built one of the first churches in England. It is still
there. A Roman later built a fine villa overlooking the river. We know because
the tiled floor and the hypocaust and the foundations were discovered under the
school playing field a couple of years ago.
Just below me, in those hay fields, is the site of the battle of Ethandune, now
the village of Edington, where King Alfred defeated the Danes. A couple of
miles away is the old 1940`s airfield where I learned to fly and from which as
a boy, I watched the Stirlings and Horsa gliders leave for the Normandy beaches
and for the catastrophe of Arnhem
There is the huge ditch and embankment which runs across the Plain as far as the
Severn, more than a hundred miles. There is a legend that a ghostly carriage
and four black horses are sometimes seen galloping along it as the body of a
Queen of England is taken to her final resting place.
One of the eight White Horses cut in the chalk of the Wiltshire hillsides drifted
by underneath as I turned back towards the setting sun.
Peering into the sunset I could just make out about 15 balloons drifting across
the sky 10 miles away so I put in a dogleg so that I wasn`t flying blind into
the sun and throttled back for a quiet easy drift slowly downwards to my field.
Slight mist was just beginning to form in the valleys.
One of the other ultra lights on my strip was being tucked away in the barn and
another was just taxying in as I drifted on the downwind leg.
I made a long approach over a trailerload of hay which had been left right in the
way.
Smooth touchdown and taxy in.I cut the engine and enjoy a quiet moment listening
to the birds before climbing out and pushing my plane into its hangar. Slight
mist just condensing on the windscreen. It is 9.15pm.
Exchange a few words with the other pilots about a fly-in this weekend and then
home to a beer on the porch to watch the full moon come up, blood red and huge,
over the distant hills. It was so bright that watching the moon rise was like
watching a sunset in reverse. What a day!
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | re: evening flight in England |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Pat, delightful flight report. Thanks
-BB
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| Subject: | Re: re: evening flight in England |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| -BB
Hi Pat/Bob B/All:
Did I miss something? What airplane were you flying, Pat? Was it
your MKIIIX or the Challenger?
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: re: evening flight in England |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
What airplane were you flying, Pat?>>
Hi John,
this flight was in the Challenger. Perfect conditions for the open cockpit.
Glad you liked it.
Extra is still progressing but I think the extraordinary heat lately must
have played up the paint. Even spraying in the cool of the evening and early
morning the red paint still looks poor after 3 coats. Perhaps it has been
stored in the heat.
Still waiting on the noise test before it can fly, but soon, soon..
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered |
Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I do not know about others, but but my log books are full of landings.
It is the nature of the type of flying I do in Kolb aircraft.>>
Hi John,
and a master you are at it. My point was that in a glider you learn
deadstick landings and stuff from your first flight, and every flight.
About my tenth flight the instructor threw his gloves over the ASI and
Altimeter and said `You don`t need those.Listen to the wind, look out the
window` So many pilots, perhaps not so many ultralight pilots because of
the sort of flying we do, get worried to death if they can`t get a QFE to
set their altimeter before landing.
<<Never experienced having someone "do" my airplane or aircraft since I was
still flying for Uncle Sam>>.
I am sure most of us operate like that but the Inspector must do an annual
check and sign off on any work done on the plane including any mandatory
mods. issued. I had to fit a third hinge to my fin last year. Someone
somewhere had pulled the pin out through the tail plane support struts and
they had to be made solid where the clevis pin went through the tube. That
sort of stuff. Engine maintenance and repairs are checked in the log book,
you can do the work yourself, it just has to be done. Not too onerous
really. If you don`t get your Permit to Fly signed then you are flying
illegally and that means no insurance, which is against the law..
I am afraid my litle evening wander doesn`t live up to the nomadic way you
fly around the States but we all enjoy our sport in different ways. Thank
goodness.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered |
Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
. How many engine outs does the average PPL practice
> before he goes solo?
How many landings does a glider pilot do in a glider with a glide ratio of
7 to 1 before he soloes?
Cheerio!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Guys
Heard this morning on WLAC radio that "a first flight Kolb" went down
in Dixon Tenn. Take off or landing? Fatality. Hope that I heard
wrong! Herb
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Guys
The Tennessean news paper has the story. 75 year old pilot. does
not mention the type of plane. Inagural flight. Herb
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050624/COUNTY03/50
624002
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| Subject: | Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Hi All,
I just finished the update on my website of my recent trip to the Big Bend
area of Texas.(Address down below)
I have now redefined the way primitive camping is done, fortunately for the
better.
Gary had a good headwind for his leg home from Sonora, TX and I had the
crosswind. We both had a great time in a beautiful area.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 836 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Big Bend
| area of Texas.(Address down below)
John W/Gang:
The photo of Terrell Country Airport brings back a few memories:
-Stopped here to rest during the 1994 flight around the US and up to
Alaska.
-Spent three days here, returning from the First Annual
Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin at Monument Valley, UT. That was the
time it rained for three days and flooded the airport.
Thanks for the memories.
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That is some seriously rugged and beautiful country, John, and a great
flight. Thanks. I'm curious about any concerns you had about the ADIZ on
the Mexican border ?? Did you have to check in, or report on radio, or
something ?? Uh.......if you had Mexican food in that little Cavalry
Post town, would it have been Fajitas Lajitas ?? :-) (sorry) :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just finished the update on my website of my recent trip to the Big Bend
> area of Texas.(Address down below)
>
> I have now redefined the way primitive camping is done, fortunately for
> the
> better.
>
> Gary had a good headwind for his leg home from Sonora, TX and I had the
> crosswind. We both had a great time in a beautiful area.
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 836 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
John,
Thanks for sharing the pictures of your trip! The town of Lajitas looked
pretty neat, was anyone there?
Bob Dalton
Manteca, CA
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Subject: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Hi All,
I just finished the update on my website of my recent trip to the Big Bend
area of Texas.(Address down below)
I have now redefined the way primitive camping is done, fortunately for the
better.
Gary had a good headwind for his leg home from Sonora, TX and I had the
crosswind. We both had a great time in a beautiful area.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 836 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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