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1. 03:33 AM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (PATRICK LADD)
2. 03:52 AM - Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and Powered Flight" (PATRICK LADD)
3. 05:15 AM - young flyers (robert bean)
4. 06:13 AM - Re: young flyers (Kirk Smith)
5. 06:38 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (Todd Fredricks)
6. 07:01 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (woody)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: Vamoose Lit Up (Larry Bourne)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (snuffy@usol.com)
9. 07:42 AM - Re: Non Kolb Down! (Denny Rowe)
10. 08:01 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (John Williamson)
11. 08:20 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (Todd Fredricks)
12. 08:22 AM - Re: Non Kolb Down! (Steve Garvelink)
13. 08:23 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (Todd Fredricks)
14. 08:24 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (Todd Fredricks)
15. 08:36 AM - Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
16. 09:23 AM - Sport Pilot (Jimmy)
17. 09:25 AM - Re: Non Kolb Down! (John Hauck)
18. 09:28 AM - Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called These Days (John Hauck)
19. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (John Hauck)
20. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (pollus)
21. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (John Hauck)
22. 10:36 AM - Re: young flyers (PATRICK LADD)
23. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (PATRICK LADD)
24. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley (PATRICK LADD)
25. 11:20 AM - millions (PATRICK LADD)
26. 11:30 AM - Re: millions (robert bean)
27. 11:48 AM - Re: Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called These ... (N27SB@aol.com)
28. 12:01 PM - Re: Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called These ... (John Hauck)
29. 12:09 PM - Re: Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called These ... (N27SB@aol.com)
30. 12:22 PM - Re: Spring Cleaning (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
31. 01:06 PM - Re: millions (pollus)
32. 01:17 PM - Re: young flyers (Ron)
33. 01:45 PM - Donald Mize MKIIIxtra Crash and Fatality (John Hauck)
34. 01:58 PM - Looking for lost info. (Mike Pierzina)
35. 02:52 PM - Re: Looking for lost info. (John Hauck)
36. 02:53 PM - 532 engine (flykolb)
37. 03:07 PM - EDES (Robert Laird)
38. 03:59 PM - Re: 532 engine (Wayne T. McCullough)
39. 05:01 PM - Re: millions (russ kinne)
40. 06:17 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (Scott Trask)
41. 06:30 PM - Re: Donald Mize MKIIIxtra Crash and Fatality (Todd Fredricks)
42. 07:28 PM - Re: EDES (bryan green)
43. 07:32 PM - Re: 532 engine (Richard Pike)
44. 08:02 PM - Re: Non Kolb Down! (David Paule)
45. 08:37 PM - Re: EDES (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
46. 08:52 PM - Using an Electric starter (Dickk9@AOL.com)
47. 09:42 PM - Re: Using an Electric starter (Ron)
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
f the government had decided to shut down the borders just two short
generations ago,>>
Which government would that be Steve?. Mexicans or Texicans?
I also subscribe to a Jazz list and they often refer to a tune called `When
the war breaks out in Mexico, you will find me in Seattle`.
Oh well, back to Kolbs.
This weekend sees the BIG show for light a/c in the UK. The Rally run by The
Popular Flying Association. This will be a three day showand this year there
has been a real effort to attract non flyers to swell numbers.
The important news is that the 3 Xtra will be exhibited for the first time
fully certificated with the Jabiru engine and cleared for vortex generators.
This could be a real shot in the arm for Kolbs in the UK.
Fingers crossed for good weather.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: " Rotax 503 Failure Poll", changed to, "Unpowered and |
Powered Flight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Even for tea?>>
Hi Kirk,
Now then, repeat after me. `One must not be ridiculous, don`tcha know`
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Oh well, back to Kolbs.
This weekend sees the BIG show for light a/c in the UK. The Rally run
by The
Popular Flying Association. This will be a three day showand this year
there
has been a real effort to attract non flyers to swell numbers.
Pat/all, while it is nice to see old friends still flying, there is
a shortage of young people. In the 1970s pilots in their 20s
and 30s were buying old taildraggers, restoring and flying
them. -lotsa ultralighters too. There may be pockets of activity
elsewhere
in the US but around here its dominated by grayhairs.
-BB
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| Subject: | Re: young flyers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> there is
> a shortage of young people. In the 1970s pilots in their 20s
> and 30s were buying old taildraggers, restoring and flying
> them. -lotsa ultralighters too. There may be pockets of activity
> elsewhere
> in the US but around here its dominated by grayhairs.
> -BB
Now the kids in there 20s and 30s and younger have a plethora of other
vehicles of amusement ( 4 wheelers, dirtbikes, jetskis, etc.) and few rules
to govern the usage of them compared to aircraft. There is a certain irony
for me in all this as I recall the image of me pulling out on my runway last
year to take off and as I look down the runway, there not 200 feet in
front of me is a kid on a dirt bike. He sees me and wheels around tearing
off on 27 to get away. I finally catch up to him just as he exits the end
of the runway. As I fly over him he hides in the treeline at the end. He's
probably not old enough to hold a drivers license, doesn't care about
liability issues, insurance , etc. We're probably better off that they
don't want to fly.
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <renard731@yahoo.com>
John:
I have decided in my post-Iraq freedom to finally
attend Oshkosh with my oldest son. Never been to the
big OSH. Plus it will allow me an opportunity to try
on a few Kolbs before we start building this winter.
Would love to meet you Kolb Icons. We will be camping
for a couple of days, 28-30th. Where do the Kolb
people usually hang out?
Todd
--- John Williamson <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Oshkosh is just 26 days away!
>
> Have you made your plans yet? You are all invited to
> join in the flight
> along the lake.
>
> I, along with a few other Kolbs will gather at Sault
> Ste Marie Muni (KANJ),
> MI on Saturday evening 23 July. Then we plan to fly
> along the south shore of
> Lake Superior on Sunday 24 July and land at Ford
> Airport (KIMT), Iron
> Mountain, MI for a late lunch.
>
> Our schedules vary before and after this small
> gathering but most will fly
> into Oshkosh on Monday morning 25 July
>
> More details of my planned flight our on my website
> (address below).
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
If you really want to see airplanes and see what is there skip the
weekend. If you go during the week there are less people and you can
actually see and talk to people. I learned this a few years ago and my
pilgramiges have been a lot more pleasant and productive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Fredricks" <renard731@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2005
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <renard731@yahoo.com>
>
> John:
>
> I have decided in my post-Iraq freedom to finally
> attend Oshkosh with my oldest son. Never been to the
> big OSH. Plus it will allow me an opportunity to try
> on a few Kolbs before we start building this winter.
>
> Would love to meet you Kolb Icons. We will be camping
> for a couple of days, 28-30th. Where do the Kolb
> people usually hang out?
>
> Todd
>
> --- John Williamson <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> > <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
> >
> > Fellow Kolbers,
> >
> > Oshkosh is just 26 days away!
> >
> > Have you made your plans yet? You are all invited to
> > join in the flight
> > along the lake.
> >
> > I, along with a few other Kolbs will gather at Sault
> > Ste Marie Muni (KANJ),
> > MI on Saturday evening 23 July. Then we plan to fly
> > along the south shore of
> > Lake Superior on Sunday 24 July and land at Ford
> > Airport (KIMT), Iron
> > Mountain, MI for a late lunch.
> >
> > Our schedules vary before and after this small
> > gathering but most will fly
> > into Oshkosh on Monday morning 25 July
> >
> > More details of my planned flight our on my website
> > (address below).
> >
> >
> > John Williamson
> > Arlington, TX
> >
> > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> > do not archive
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> > FAQ,
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose Lit Up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hmmm.......not sure about the connotations of that....?? I'm
amazed to see that old post. How did you find it ?? I wonder if any others
here remember Ron and his beautiful Mk III 1/2 ?? Also, the VW engine has
been fine, so far, for its' whole 1 hour running time. That &#@% redrive is
the PIA. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose Lit Up
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
> At 10:49 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>>My goodness........of course ! ! ! Couldn't have ol' Lar beatin' anybody
>>into the air, now could we ?? :-) Lar. Do
>>not Archive.
>>
>>Larry Bourne
>>Palm Springs, CA
>>Building Kolb Mk III
>>N78LB Vamoose
>
> I think we lost you back in '97 when you went with the VW engine.
> But we know you'll finish - or die trying.
> -------------------------------
> Date: Dec 07, 1997
> From: "Ron Christensen"
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
I have decided in my post-Iraq freedom to finally
> attend Oshkosh with my oldest son.
I assume that post Iraq- freedom implies that you served in Iraq in
the military. If so may I offer my gratitude for your service in an
extremely difficult place. Oshkosh will certainly be a welcome
environment after that......... Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Non Kolb Down! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Good one Earl
>
do not archive
>
. Still haven't figure out why a
> man worth 18.2 billion would be flying anything but a kolb??? :-)
> ~ Earl
>
>
> --
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>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Todd and All,
It looks like TNK will only have a display in the main aircraft display area
(spots 62 & 63). That creates a lack of a good location for Kolb people to
gather.
Me and several other Kolb flyers will be camping beside our airplanes on the
ultralight flight line. When you are standing at the fence watching the
traffic at the ultralight strip, we will be in the grass area on the other
side of the strip. If no one is around the airplanes, leave a note or a cell
phone number and we will try to hook up with anyone that makes the effort.
I just talked to Travis at TNK and he confirmed the only Kolb display will
be in the main aircraft display area. Dick will fly the FireStar out of the
ultralight strip as usual but will probably keep it tied down near the rest
of us Kolb Campers during his non-flying time.
As already mentioned, Monday thru Friday are the best times to see and talk
to people about airplanes.
Anybody have any ideas on a meeting place and/or time?
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
<http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <renard731@yahoo.com>
I think I can find a certain Blue Kolbra and leave a
note. Should be fun to meet Kolb people. Hoping i fit
in a Mark III X. My son does a good job at 8 of hold a
course and flying roads in the 172 but I sure would
like to show him a horizon forward and I think a Mark
III would do that even if he still can't reach the
pedals.
Todd
--- John Williamson <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Todd and All,
>
> It looks like TNK will only have a display in the
> main aircraft display area
> (spots 62 & 63). That creates a lack of a good
> location for Kolb people to
> gather.
>
> Me and several other Kolb flyers will be camping
> beside our airplanes on the
> ultralight flight line. When you are standing at the
> fence watching the
> traffic at the ultralight strip, we will be in the
> grass area on the other
> side of the strip. If no one is around the
> airplanes, leave a note or a cell
> phone number and we will try to hook up with anyone
> that makes the effort.
>
> I just talked to Travis at TNK and he confirmed the
> only Kolb display will
> be in the main aircraft display area. Dick will fly
> the FireStar out of the
> ultralight strip as usual but will probably keep it
> tied down near the rest
> of us Kolb Campers during his non-flying time.
>
> As already mentioned, Monday thru Friday are the
> best times to see and talk
> to people about airplanes.
>
> Anybody have any ideas on a meeting place and/or
> time?
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> <http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
747 WOULD BE MORE FUN OR MAYBE AN F16 OR 2
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non Kolb Down!
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Good one Earl
>
do not archive
>
. Still haven't figure out why a
> man worth 18.2 billion would be flying anything but a kolb??? :-)
> ~ Earl
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <renard731@yahoo.com>
I did and I am proud of it and what we are doing over
there in spite of what the media is feeding my fellow
Americans here. But that said, I will take Oshkosh at
90% humidity and 90 degrees over Diyala Province at
20% humidity and 130 degrees and I will especially
welcome the opportunity to meet some heros of mine who
make their retirements into grand adventures flying
small airplanes where most people think they have no
business going ;)
Todd
PS: Don't thank me, thank my buddies who came home on
one final trip and the ones who left parts of
themselves over there. I was blessed to serve my
country and return intact. I can ask nothing more.
--- snuffy@usol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
>
> I have decided in my post-Iraq freedom to finally
> > attend Oshkosh with my oldest son.
>
> I assume that post Iraq- freedom implies that you
> served in Iraq in
> the military. If so may I offer my gratitude for
> your service in an
> extremely difficult place. Oshkosh will certainly
> be a welcome
> environment after that......... Kirk
>
> Do not
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <renard731@yahoo.com>
We should be there Thursday and Friday as well as
Saturday. So that might work out well.
Todd
--- woody <duesouth@govital.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody"
> <duesouth@govital.net>
>
> If you really want to see airplanes and see what
> is there skip the
> weekend. If you go during the week there are less
> people and you can
> actually see and talk to people. I learned this a
> few years ago and my
> pilgramiges have been a lot more pleasant and
> productive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Fredricks" <renard731@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2005
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks
> <renard731@yahoo.com>
> >
> > John:
> >
> > I have decided in my post-Iraq freedom to finally
> > attend Oshkosh with my oldest son. Never been to
> the
> > big OSH. Plus it will allow me an opportunity to
> try
> > on a few Kolbs before we start building this
> winter.
> >
> > Would love to meet you Kolb Icons. We will be
> camping
> > for a couple of days, 28-30th. Where do the Kolb
> > people usually hang out?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > --- John Williamson <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John
> Williamson"
> > > <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > Fellow Kolbers,
> > >
> > > Oshkosh is just 26 days away!
> > >
> > > Have you made your plans yet? You are all
> invited to
> > > join in the flight
> > > along the lake.
> > >
> > > I, along with a few other Kolbs will gather at
> Sault
> > > Ste Marie Muni (KANJ),
> > > MI on Saturday evening 23 July. Then we plan to
> fly
> > > along the south shore of
> > > Lake Superior on Sunday 24 July and land at Ford
> > > Airport (KIMT), Iron
> > > Mountain, MI for a late lunch.
> > >
> > > Our schedules vary before and after this small
> > > gathering but most will fly
> > > into Oshkosh on Monday morning 25 July
> > >
> > > More details of my planned flight our on my
> website
> > > (address below).
> > >
> > >
> > > John Williamson
> > > Arlington, TX
> > >
> > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> > > do not archive
> > >
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> > > FAQ,
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> > >
> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
All
I'm still not holding my breath but it looks like the article will be in the August
issue of Sport Pilot.
Ok, Johns/everyone step to the plate and share with the world your exploits in
Kolbs. It appears that the EAA doesn't write anything by themselves except when
they are, shall we say paid? Quit, just, complaining about the lack of coverage
of inexpensive airplanes in the EAA magazines and do something about it.
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Jones
To: Richard & Martha Neilsen
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley
Thanks for the quick reply!
And, it's official ... this article will appear in the August issue, which we'll
be distributing at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2005!
Cheers,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen [mailto:NeilsenRM05@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:04 AM
To: Mary Jones
Subject: Re: Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley
Mary
This is a independent list. They have a list specifically for Kolbs. It is http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?Kolb-List
Rick Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Jones
To: Richard & Martha Neilsen
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley
Thanks ... another question about the e-mail list ... is this a list supported
on the factory's website or is it a separate e-mail list. Either way, can
you give me the link/address so that we might publish that as well.
Thanks!
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen [mailto:NeilsenRM05@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:20 PM
To: Mary Jones
Subject: Re: Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley
Mary
Five pilots flew and four pulled them in in trailers.
Rick Neilsen
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
Can the Sport Pilot Magazine be bought on the news stands or book stores?
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Firefly 035
JYL (Sylvania)
Pegasus Field (Home)
2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass
Rocky Ford, Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Non Kolb Down! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
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| 747 WOULD BE MORE FUN OR MAYBE AN F16 OR 2
Steve G/Gang:
More fun than what?
Maybe I don't know what "fun" is, but I sure have enjoyed flying these
little Kolb airplanes. ;-)
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called These |
Days
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Gang:
A great article in the new mag I just got out of my mailbox on Steve
Boetta and his Puddle Buster, Firefly on floats.
Good on you Steve. It looks great!!!
Also some info on alternate power for those that are so inclined.
Still waiting for you pioneers to come up with a good replacement for
my 912ULS that outperforms it and cost a quarter of what the 912ULS
costs. If you do, I'll be the first in line with money in hand, if I
can float a loan.
Take care,
john h
titus, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
issue, which we'll be distributing at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2005!
|
| Cheers,
| Mary Jones
Editor
Rick N/Gang:
This is great news!
This particular copy of the magazine will get a lot of exposure to a
lot of folks that do not normally subscribe or have an opportunity to
see and read the magazine.
Thanks for your untiring efforts in putting the article together. We
all appreciate it.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
titus, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
Cool! Does anyone care to send a copy to Holland?
Would be great!
Pollus
DNA
Op 29-jun-2005, om 18:34 heeft John Hauck het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> | And, it's official ... this article will appear in the August
> issue, which we'll be distributing at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2005!
> Editor
>
> Rick N/Gang:
>
> This is great news!
>
> This particular copy of the magazine will get a lot of exposure to a
> lot of folks that do not normally subscribe or have an opportunity to
> see and read the magazine.
>
> Thanks for your untiring efforts in putting the article together. We
> all appreciate it.
>
> john h
> MKIII/912ULS
> titus, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Pollus/Gang:
If I don't come up with an extra issue of Sport Pilot and the Monument
Valley article, I will scan the article in my copy and post it on the
internet for you.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: young flyers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
shortage of young people>>
Hi Robert,
seems to be the pattern everywhere. Long article in one of the flying mags
this month about the problems of oldies who are not as sharp as they were
but who tend to offset that through experience.
There is so much on offer these days.Perhaps flying is for those who are
geting on a bit. Quite apart from the fact that however much we like to kid
ourselves flying is not cheap.
Certainly when I wanted to take up gliding a launch cost about $1 plus
soaring time. There was no way I could afford that. I had a house to buy,
wife and 2 kids to support.
I just went away and swam, snorkelled, and anything else that was cheap and
consequently didn`t glide until I was in my 30`s. Even then the cost of
powered flight was way beyond my means.
Not until ultralights came along was it possible financially.
Perhaps we shouldn`t get too worried that the young not flocking into
flying. Get the young exec who`s kids have grown up, then he has the money
and the time.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
EAA doesn't write anything by themselves except when they are, shall we say
paid?>>
Hi there,
same in the UK.
I have had a few flying articles published. Never been paid a penny.
I think if you want to get the story out you do the work, bite the bullet
and give it away.
Of course if you have something extraordinary like the Haucks travels and
his pictures then a publisher might bite.
Of course if Hauck would self publish then we would all buy a copy.
Meanwhile, back to the novel
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Third Annual Kolb Flyin at Monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
And, it's official ... this article will appear in the August
issue, which we'll be distributing at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2005!>>
Hi all,
anyone able to mail a copy to the UK. Happy to reciprocate.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hang on chaps,
I have just had this post from Lagos telling me that I can have 14 million dollars
which is languishing in this bank because the millionare Shell Executive it
belonged to has been killed in an air crash.
Just wait until I get that sorted and I will be at Oskosh. You will recognise me
in the 747 with the all female crew. Not one over 24.
Aaaarggghhh!
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Pat, you are too late, I just finished sending him ALL my banking
info and account numbers.
-BB , waiting in anticipation
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On 29, Jun 2005, at 2:13 PM, PATRICK LADD wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hang on chaps,
> I have just had this post from Lagos telling me that I can have 14
> million dollars which is languishing in this bank because the
> millionare Shell Executive it belonged to has been killed in an air
> crash.
>
> Just wait until I get that sorted and I will be at Oskosh. You will
> recognise me in the 747 with the all female crew. Not one over 24.
>
> Aaaarggghhh!
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot, EAA Experimenter, or Whatever It Is Called |
These ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 6/29/2005 12:29:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> A great article in the new mag I just got out of my mailbox on Steve
> Boetta and his Puddle Buster, Firefly on floats.
>
> Good on you Steve. It looks great!!!
>
>
Thanks John, I have not seen it yet. I was asked at SnF to fly for some
photos. As you know the wind was wailing. A few weeks later with good weather I
went to the lake with two of my friends and without any preparation we took some
photos. Little did I know thast Jim Odom was a great action photographer. I
sent the photos to Mary Jones in case she wanted to try again. She liked them
so much she wrote a story around them. I think that if you submit a good story
with high density photos they will use it.
Steve Boetto
FireFly #007 (Fondly known as the "Puddle Buster")
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These ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| with high density photos they will use it.
|
| Steve Boetto
Steve B/Gang:
Absolutely right.
Any of the aviation mags will be more than happy for anyone to write
an article of their flying adventures along with high density photos.
Your reward will be the satisfaction you have shared your experience
with the aviation community.
This is the standard answer I get when asked if the publisher could
possibly help me offset some to the expenses involved in the project.
;-)
Let's not get started on the possibility of writing of adventures at
this time. I, for one, have absolutely no time to spend typing and
organizing photos. My little world is having a severe time drought!
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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These ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 6/29/2005 3:02:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
> My little world is having a severe time drought!
>
> john h
> MKIII/912ULS
>
Sorry to hear that. We have had 22" of rain so far this month alone. Or did
you mean Time Drought as in no time.:-)
steve
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Cleaning |
02:21:06 PM,
Serialize complete at 06/29/2005 02:21:06 PM,
Itemize by SMTP Server on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at
06/29/2005
02:21:34 PM,
Serialize by Router on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 06/29/2005
02:21:38 PM,
Serialize complete at 06/29/2005 02:21:38 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
Steve, I am the guy from Minnesota that replied earlier about buying your
BRS. Please contact me off list so we can make arrangements.
e-mail: dwight.kottke@hti.htch.com
work phone: 320-587-1464
home phone: 320-562-2436
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N27SB@aol.com
Sent by: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
06/21/2005 10:32 AM
Please respond to
kolb-list@matronics.com
To
kolb-list@matronics.com
cc
Subject
Kolb-List: Spring Cleaning
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To All:
I have a couple of items that I need to get rid of
BRS 500# Softpack $800.00
I just finished my new hanger and I do not want to put his stuff in it.
Steve Boetto
FF #007
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
Then you might benifit from some of the the 4 metric ton Viagra I get
offered weekly....
Pollus
DNA
Op 29-jun-2005, om 20:13 heeft PATRICK LADD het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hang on chaps,
> I have just had this post from Lagos telling me that I can have 14
> million dollars which is languishing in this bank because the
> millionare Shell Executive it belonged to has been killed in an air
> crash.
>
> Just wait until I get that sorted and I will be at Oskosh. You will
> recognise me in the 747 with the all female crew. Not one over 24.
>
> Aaaarggghhh!
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: young flyers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
I second that observation, few young pilots here in Southern Arizona.
My firm belief is that the FAA and the Liberals (lawyers, effeminates)
have created such a hostile environment to aviation that there is no
fun, and little freedom near the big metro areas anymore. Nowadays the
anti terrorist paranoia creates an even greater anti aviation sentiment
out there.
In short between the FAA, the insurance industry, the lawyers and now
Homeland Security
( another name for Gestapo ) its an amazing thing we can still fly.
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=========================================
On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Kirk Smith wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>
>> there is
>> a shortage of young people. In the 1970s pilots in their 20s
>> and 30s were buying old taildraggers, restoring and flying
>> them. -lotsa ultralighters too. There may be pockets of activity
>> elsewhere
>> in the US but around here its dominated by grayhairs.
>> -BB
>
> Now the kids in there 20s and 30s and younger have a plethora of other
> vehicles of amusement ( 4 wheelers, dirtbikes, jetskis, etc.) and few
> rules
> to govern the usage of them compared to aircraft. There is a certain
> irony
> for me in all this as I recall the image of me pulling out on my
> runway last
> year to take off and as I look down the runway, there not 200 feet in
> front of me is a kid on a dirt bike. He sees me and wheels around
> tearing
> off on 27 to get away. I finally catch up to him just as he exits the
> end
> of the runway. As I fly over him he hides in the treeline at the end.
> He's
> probably not old enough to hold a drivers license, doesn't care about
> liability issues, insurance , etc. We're probably better off that
> they
> don't want to fly.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
Have a great day!
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| Subject: | Donald Mize MKIIIxtra Crash and Fatality |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
A non-flying friend sent me the info on Donald Mize MKIIIx accident
and fatality, in Dickson, TN. I do not think I knew this gentleman.
Nor do I know if it was he who was killed. FAA Accident Summary did
no say. Aircraft was registered in Jan 05, so is a relatively new
airplane.
Dickson, TN, is just WSW of Nashville.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Looking for lost info. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Guys,
After computer troubles and changing computers , I've lost 2 things
that I was saving....
One was the Chilli Vest web site....(can't find it in the archives)
and two , The web site that had the strong, duct tape that came in several different
colors....
I think both these came from John Hauck....
Gotta Fly...
Mike
in MN
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My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down...
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for lost info. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
http://www.sargentcycle.com/chillivest.htm
http://www.thetapeworks.com/gaffer.htm
The web site that had the strong, duct tape that came in several
different colors....
|
Mike: There you go.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Kolbers,
I have a 532 dual carb with point ignition. Any comments on going with the CDI
ignition from Airscrew?
Also, I'm thinking about going with a 618. Any comments?
Jim
Mark III
Charlotte, NC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
This isn't a troll.. I genuinely would like you builders to address this
issue...
NOWHERE does the FAA define what the phrase "engine driven electrical
system" (EDES) means.
I have encountered DARs that will allow an alternator, a battery,
electronic ignition, but if the plane doesn't have a starter, they'll claim
it doesn't have an "engine-driven electrical system" (EDES). Another DAR
won't allow electronic ignition, but will allow points ignition. Others
say the engine must have a generator, not an alternator, for it not to be
an EDES. And yet another will say a wind-driven generator is allowed to
power the electrical system, but if the engine has an alternator or
generator, then it isn't allowed.
Speaking from a PURE TECHNICAL position, if an engine possesses either a
generator or an alternator, and the power created by either one is used to
fire the spark plugs, it is TRULY an EDES. Yet it seems even back in the
30's, with radials that had generators, they were certified as not having
EDES because you had to hand-crank the engine to start it. But that's
certainly not how the regs are written, but at the time that was the litmus
test.
Today (and probably for the last 70 years), virtually 100% of all aircraft
engines -- including engines used on ultralights -- have EDES by the pure
technical definition. Whether you hand-prop it, or use a battery-powered
starter motor is TECHNICALLY irrelevant. But the DARs use wildly differing
criteria for "certifying" the aircraft as EDES or not. It's chaos and FUD
as only the government can create!
So, when I asked an FAA examiner at the FSDO about the reg, his answer was,
"oh, that only applies to factory-produced and certified aircraft." So, I
have an off-the-cuff comment from one guy at the FSDO which contravene's
all the DARs and the written regs. What's a poor pilot to believe?
It's going to be very interesting to see what kind of uneven hand the DARs
are going to apply to LSA-Experimentals, as to whether any given one is
EDES or not. I think we'll see a wide variety of arbitrary decisions,
which is not a good thing, not a good thing at all.
Does anyone here have any good news with respect to this issue?
-- Robert
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
While , I am building my Kolbra, I am still flying my 83 T-bird (Tierra 2).
I am using a 532 engine with belt reduction drive and Steve Beatty's CDI
ignition. I have had a total of 5 engine outs...(flying a heavy
glider...WILL improve your landing skills ....IMMEDIATELY) ...All of the
engine outs were found due to the ignition coil behind the flywheel breaking
wires in the coil itself.......As president of our local EAA club......we
unwound the winding and found out each time about 5 inches from the end
.....it broke internally.....all coils were installed with blue
threadlocker......
Just like turning it off.......thank God I was at altitude to have time to
decide where to put it.......
New Kolbra has 582 bluehead with E box.....and TWO ignition
systems.........I cannot wait....wish I had the money to put a 912S on
it........
Oh well..............
Wayne McCullough
----- Original Message -----
From: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: 532 engine
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I have a 532 dual carb with point ignition. Any comments on going with the
> CDI ignition from Airscrew?
>
> Also, I'm thinking about going with a 618. Any comments?
>
> Jim
> Mark III
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Not one over 24? Hope that's not the IQ --
On Jun 29, 2005, at 2:13 PM, PATRICK LADD wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hang on chaps,
> I have just had this post from Lagos telling me that I can have 14
> million dollars which is languishing in this bank because the
> millionare Shell Executive it belonged to has been killed in an air
> crash.
>
> Just wait until I get that sorted and I will be at Oskosh. You will
> recognise me in the 747 with the all female crew. Not one over 24.
>
> Aaaarggghhh!
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2005 |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
on 6/28/05 10:12 PM, John Williamson at kolbrapilot2@comcast.net wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Oshkosh is just 26 days away!
>
> Have you made your plans yet? You are all invited to join in the flight
> along the lake.
>
> I, along with a few other Kolbs will gather at Sault Ste Marie Muni (KANJ),
> MI on Saturday evening 23 July. Then we plan to fly along the south shore of
> Lake Superior on Sunday 24 July and land at Ford Airport (KIMT), Iron
> Mountain, MI for a late lunch.
>
> Our schedules vary before and after this small gathering but most will fly
> into Oshkosh on Monday morning 25 July
>
> More details of my planned flight our on my website (address below).
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> do not archive
Hi in route OSK Guys
Just a reminder that anyone is welcome to drop in here at my place which is
about 6 miles north as the crow flies from KIMT. There's a place to hang
your hat at my patch and food on the table. If anyone ends up landing at
KIMT give me a call and I can come over and pick you up. If the weather is
bad we got Bill Vincent and Aaron Gustafson to entertain us.
Scott Trask MK111
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| Subject: | Re: Donald Mize MKIIIxtra Crash and Fatality |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
Any word as to cause of the accident?
Todd
On 6/29/05 4:45 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> A non-flying friend sent me the info on Donald Mize MKIIIx accident
> and fatality, in Dickson, TN. I do not think I knew this gentleman.
> Nor do I know if it was he who was killed. FAA Accident Summary did
> no say. Aircraft was registered in Jan 05, so is a relatively new
> airplane.
>
> Dickson, TN, is just WSW of Nashville.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Robert Laird wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>
>This isn't a troll.. I genuinely would like you builders to address this
>issue...
>
>NOWHERE does the FAA define what the phrase "engine driven electrical
>system" (EDES) means.
>
>
>
>
That is a great question Robert and one I have been thinking of
myself. I have a small gell cell installed in my plane to run the EIS,
radio and two small taxi lights. Since I will be trying to register my
Firestar as an ELSA hopefully in about 3 more months I will be watching
the replies to this one also.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I flew with a 532 and points for several years, and an Airscrew Performance
CDI for several years. Several memorable occurrences -
The 532 coils hook up different from the older 503's, 447's and 377's point
systems. If you use a "typical" Rotax wiring diagram when hooking the point
wires and ground wires to the coil, then you get the primary and secondary
systems reversed and it makes a really weak spark. What is bad is that it
will run like that for a while with new plugs, but quickly start to act up
and misfire, typically at the worst possible times. Guess how I know this?
Make sure you use a 532 wiring diagram to wire the 532 with the stock
ignition instead of a "generic Rotax" ignition system wiring diagram.
Bought a set of ignition points from Airstar Discount Sales the month
before flying to Oshkosh. Bad move. They look like "real" Rotax points, but
in just a few hours they had worn down and retarded the ignition to the
point that my flight to Oshkosh turned into a real enduro of engine
troubleshooting. On the other hand, maybe it's just as well the engine
wasn't making full power, because the mag end crankshaft seal they sold me
to go behind the magneto was failing by the time I got home, maybe full
power would have blown it completely out... Anyway, I would never buy
anything from them if I were you.
The Airscrew Performance CDI ignition worked very well for several years,
then developed a light and sporadic miss. After talking to Steve Beatty
several times on the phone, he had me snip off the ground wire from the
spark plug coil to ground and that solved the problem. Their CDI system is
advertised as having a retard function that allows you to have a really
slow idle, and it sort of works, but nobody actually idles a 532 at 800
-1400 rpm. But it does start very easily and idle very smoothly, it seemed
to make a hair more power and run a hair smoother than the points system.
I have since replaced it with a 90 series 582, it makes better power, much
better torque, will happily turn a bigger prop, uses a tad more fuel, but
it also uses regular fuel instead of premium, so you come out ahead.
Performance on the MKIII is excellent, and if you are content to fly 65 mph
at 5400 rpm, it will only burn 3.5 GPH.
Charlotte is not that far away, come fly with me.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 06:04 PM 6/29/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
>
>Kolbers,
>
>I have a 532 dual carb with point ignition. Any comments on going with the
>CDI ignition from Airscrew?
>
>Also, I'm thinking about going with a 618. Any comments?
>
>Jim
>Mark III
>Charlotte, NC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non Kolb Down! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
Not so well known, at least in aviation, is that John Walton and Ian Farrier
started a company called Corsair Marine, and which built a line of trimaran
sailboats.
So what?
These boats are all composite, with carbon, foam and glass laminates. They
weight much less than a monohull sailboat and have much larger wings, er,
sails. As a result, they're considerably faster. They handle like a good
sports car, and mine is considerably more fun than my FS II.
The designer's web site is www.f-boat.com.
Corsair's site is www.corsairmarine.com
Wouldn't have happened except for Mr. Walton.
Dave Paule
Boulder, CO
FS II (no name)
Corsair F-27 "Second Chance"
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Bob
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to avoid a transponder? Are
you just trying to get your airworthiness certificate?
If you are trying to avoid a transponder just say that you don't have enough
electrical power to SAFELY power a transponder.
If your trying to get a airworthiness certificate. Tell them that the reason
GA aircraft have two magnetos is that they were so unreliable they had to
have two to keep them in the air. Point ignitions were an improvement but
electronic ignitions are a order of magnitude better (more reliable) than
point ignitions. And most Rotax engines have dual redundant ignition
systems. Alternators are also much more reliable and lighter than generators
that's why all new GA aircraft have switched to alternators. Any DAR that
can't see that these are good things is stuck back in the 1940s.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: EDES
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>
> This isn't a troll.. I genuinely would like you builders to address this
> issue...
>
> NOWHERE does the FAA define what the phrase "engine driven electrical
> system" (EDES) means.
>
> I have encountered DARs that will allow an alternator, a battery,
> electronic ignition, but if the plane doesn't have a starter, they'll
> claim
> it doesn't have an "engine-driven electrical system" (EDES). Another DAR
> won't allow electronic ignition, but will allow points ignition. Others
> say the engine must have a generator, not an alternator, for it not to be
> an EDES. And yet another will say a wind-driven generator is allowed to
> power the electrical system, but if the engine has an alternator or
> generator, then it isn't allowed.
>
> Speaking from a PURE TECHNICAL position, if an engine possesses either a
> generator or an alternator, and the power created by either one is used to
> fire the spark plugs, it is TRULY an EDES. Yet it seems even back in the
> 30's, with radials that had generators, they were certified as not having
> EDES because you had to hand-crank the engine to start it. But that's
> certainly not how the regs are written, but at the time that was the
> litmus
> test.
>
> Today (and probably for the last 70 years), virtually 100% of all aircraft
> engines -- including engines used on ultralights -- have EDES by the pure
> technical definition. Whether you hand-prop it, or use a battery-powered
> starter motor is TECHNICALLY irrelevant. But the DARs use wildly
> differing
> criteria for "certifying" the aircraft as EDES or not. It's chaos and FUD
> as only the government can create!
>
> So, when I asked an FAA examiner at the FSDO about the reg, his answer
> was,
> "oh, that only applies to factory-produced and certified aircraft." So, I
> have an off-the-cuff comment from one guy at the FSDO which contravene's
> all the DARs and the written regs. What's a poor pilot to believe?
>
> It's going to be very interesting to see what kind of uneven hand the DARs
> are going to apply to LSA-Experimentals, as to whether any given one is
> EDES or not. I think we'll see a wide variety of arbitrary decisions,
> which is not a good thing, not a good thing at all.
>
> Does anyone here have any good news with respect to this issue?
>
> -- Robert
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Using an Electric starter |
fly-ul@yahoogroups.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dickk9@aol.com
Hi to all on the list,
Please consider this a heads up to everyone that has an electric starter on
their PLANE, PPC, PPG or what ever you may be flying. We have been seeing an
increasing number of expensive electronic equipment failures caused by high
voltage spikes. This problem is easily solved by simply installing a 15 cent
device called a diode that can be picked up at any Radio Shack. The coil
that operates the starter solenoid of your electric start circuit will induce
a
high voltage spike into your electrical circuits if not properly protected
with this diode. If you have a left right both type, switch the instructions
tell you how to do the installation of the diode. However, there are so many
variations of start switches being used that it doesn=E2=80=99t get mentioned
in all
of their instructions.
It is real easy to do, just wire the diode at the start circuit solenoid
activation terminal with the line on the diode toward that terminal on the
solenoid and the other end of the diode to ground. How simple is that? Might
save
you $$$$$.
PS: If you are using our Hot Box it had already been done for you.
Safe Flying,
Dick Kuntzleman, President
Kuntzleman Electronics, Inc.
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| Subject: | Re: Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
Can you post a diagram? It seems simple but I don't exactly follow the
logic.
Thanks
Ron
do not archive
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On Jun 29, 2005, at 8:51 PM, Dickk9@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dickk9@aol.com
>
>
> Hi to all on the list,
> Please consider this a heads up to everyone that has an electric
> starter on
> their PLANE, PPC, PPG or what ever you may be flying. We have been
> seeing an
> increasing number of expensive electronic equipment failures caused
> by high
> voltage spikes. This problem is easily solved by simply installing a
> 15 cent
> device called a diode that can be picked up at any Radio Shack. The
> coil
> that operates the starter solenoid of your electric start circuit
> will induce a
> high voltage spike into your electrical circuits if not properly
> protected
> with this diode. If you have a left right both type, switch the
> instructions
> tell you how to do the installation of the diode. However, there are
> so many
> variations of start switches being used that it doesn=E2=80=99t get
> mentioned in all
> of their instructions.
> It is real easy to do, just wire the diode at the start circuit
> solenoid
> activation terminal with the line on the diode toward that terminal on
> the
> solenoid and the other end of the diode to ground. How simple is
> that? Might save
> you $$$$$.
> PS: If you are using our Hot Box it had already been done for you.
> Safe Flying,
> Dick Kuntzleman, President
> Kuntzleman Electronics, Inc.
>
>
Have a great day!
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