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1. 03:06 AM - Re: millions (PATRICK LADD)
2. 03:06 AM - Re: millions (PATRICK LADD)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: Using an Electric starter (Dickk9@aol.com)
4. 06:55 AM - Ride in Mark3 (Kirk Smith)
5. 07:04 AM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Steve Kroll)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: young flyers (russ kinne)
7. 07:36 AM - Re: young flyers (Steve Kroll)
8. 09:18 AM - Re: Using an Electric starter (jerb)
9. 09:32 AM - Re: Non Kolb Down! (jerb)
10. 09:56 AM - Re: Using an Electric starter (b young)
11. 10:02 AM - Re: Using an Electric starter (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
12. 10:54 AM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (PATRICK LADD)
13. 12:09 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (John Williamson)
14. 02:21 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (russ kinne)
15. 03:23 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (John Williamson)
16. 03:28 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Christopher Armstrong)
17. 03:58 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (russ kinne)
18. 05:34 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (ray anderson)
19. 06:36 PM - damp air (robert bean)
20. 06:53 PM - Re: Using an Electric starter (Richard Swiderwski)
21. 07:02 PM - Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to (Jack & Louise Hart)
22. 07:13 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Dale Sellers)
23. 07:19 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (Dale Sellers)
24. 07:37 PM - Re: damp air (Richard Swiderwski)
25. 08:01 PM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (David Carr)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pat, you are too late, I just finished sending him ALL my banking
info >>
Hi Robert,
I am not greedy. I`ll split 50/50.Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Not one over 24? Hope that's not the IQ -->>
Hi Russ,
I don`t care if it is.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dickk9@aol.com
I could but don't think it would make it on the list, I'll send you one off
list.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
I have a friend that is seriously looking into buying a Mark 3 or Extra. He called
the company and I guess they don't have a demo for rides anymore. Is there
anybody on the list in the Michigan area that could possibly give him a demo
ride? Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
<<<<<Which government would that be Steve?. Mexicans or Texicans?>>>>>
Patrick, all
It sounds like you've spent enough time in the States to recognize the "true" nature
of our diversity:-)
BTW....let me join with the others in congratulating you on the completion and
certification of your 3X. I'm looking forward to hearing of your adventures in
your new bird. And, of course, pictures would be nice.
Anybody on the list converted to 4-cycle power for their Mk2 or FS2?
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: young flyers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Capt. Ron
You're right on in your remarks -- but remember we have more flying
freedoms than anywhere else in the world.
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 29, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Ron wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
>
> I second that observation, few young pilots here in Southern Arizona.
> My firm belief is that the FAA and the Liberals (lawyers, effeminates)
> have created such a hostile environment to aviation that there is no
> fun, and little freedom near the big metro areas anymore. Nowadays the
> anti terrorist paranoia creates an even greater anti aviation sentiment
> out there.
> In short between the FAA, the insurance industry, the lawyers and now
> Homeland Security
> ( another name for Gestapo ) its an amazing thing we can still fly.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> =========================================
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Kirk Smith wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>>
>>
>>> there is
>>> a shortage of young people. In the 1970s pilots in their 20s
>>> and 30s were buying old taildraggers, restoring and flying
>>> them. -lotsa ultralighters too. There may be pockets of activity
>>> elsewhere
>>> in the US but around here its dominated by grayhairs.
>>> -BB
>>
>> Now the kids in there 20s and 30s and younger have a plethora of
>> other
>> vehicles of amusement ( 4 wheelers, dirtbikes, jetskis, etc.) and few
>> rules
>> to govern the usage of them compared to aircraft. There is a certain
>> irony
>> for me in all this as I recall the image of me pulling out on my
>> runway last
>> year to take off and as I look down the runway, there not 200 feet
>> in
>> front of me is a kid on a dirt bike. He sees me and wheels around
>> tearing
>> off on 27 to get away. I finally catch up to him just as he exits the
>> end
>> of the runway. As I fly over him he hides in the treeline at the end.
>> He's
>> probably not old enough to hold a drivers license, doesn't care about
>> liability issues, insurance , etc. We're probably better off that
>> they
>> don't want to fly.
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
> Have a great day!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: young flyers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
<<<>>>
Robert, all
Same here. I think it probably has something to do with the ever advancing cost
of the sport.
17 years ago I bought a complete Mk2 kit for just over 10k including engine. I'd
hate to even guess what those of you flying new Mk3's with 912's have invested.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Dick,
I'm sure you would use a 4000 series diode as there more commonly available
In your suggestion, I assume that the activation terminal (connected to the
starter energizer switch) would be raised to 12 volts level when the
starter is to be activated, or is it taken to ground? Solenoids come in
both flavors so this can be confusing and the smoke will be let out of the
diode if placed in the wrong direction. (Folks, for safety make sure you
stay clear of the prop arc when wiring this.)
jerb
At 11:51 PM 6/29/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dickk9@aol.com
>
>
>Hi to all on the list,
>Please consider this a heads up to everyone that has an electric starter on
>their PLANE, PPC, PPG or what ever you may be flying. We have been seeing an
>increasing number of expensive electronic equipment failures caused by high
>voltage spikes. This problem is easily solved by simply installing a 15 cent
>device called a diode that can be picked up at any Radio Shack. The coil
>that operates the starter solenoid of your electric start circuit will
>induce a
>high voltage spike into your electrical circuits if not properly protected
>with this diode. If you have a left right both type, switch the instructions
>tell you how to do the installation of the diode. However, there are so many
>variations of start switches being used that it doesn=E2=80=99t get
>mentioned in all
>of their instructions.
>It is real easy to do, just wire the diode at the start circuit solenoid
>activation terminal with the line on the diode toward that terminal on the
>solenoid and the other end of the diode to ground. How simple is
>that? Might save
>you $$$$$.
>PS: If you are using our Hot Box it had already been done for you.
>Safe Flying,
>Dick Kuntzleman, President
>Kuntzleman Electronics, Inc.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non Kolb Down! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Earl,
Sorry to have to pop your bubble and have make you aware of this fact there
are other fine flying aircraft besides Kolbs, like CGS Hawks which is what
the aircraft was. Now let's not lower the list to Monday morning quarter
backing the cause and give the pro's time to examine the scene and come
with what may have been the cause.
jerb
P.S. - then again may be he made the right brand choice - but the proper
comment might have been was a BRS on board?
At 02:36 PM 6/28/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
>
>Denny Rowe wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> >
> > Just a guess, but it may be an Aerolight 103 from what I can make out
> in the
> > pic.
> >
> > Denny Rowe do not archive
>
>Yeah, that's what I thought it was too. Still haven't figure out why a
>man worth 18.2 billion would be flying anything but a kolb??? :-)
> ~ Earl
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Using an Electric starter
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
Can you post a diagram? It seems simple but I don't exactly follow the
logic.
Thanks
Ron
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
not sure how this is going to come out but here goes.
in the starting solenoid there is an electro magnet..... when it is
energized the plunger of the solenoid is pulled in to close the switch to
the starter. when the solenoid is de energized the stored energy in the
windings of the solenoid will cause a reverse voltage to be applied across
the windings. this reverse voltage can cause a high voltage electrical spike
on your system..... a simple way to eliminate damage caused by the high
voltage spike is to give it a place to go, ( a diode ) ...
now how do we install the diode so it will work the way we want it to... on
each diode there is a line on one end that usually goes all the way around
the end. when the connector closest to the line is connected to the
negative side of a circuit and the other connector connected to
positive,,, it will conduct electricity.... when the connector closest to
the line is connected to the positive side of a circuit it will not
conduct....
on a negative ground plane the coil of the solenoid is fed with a positive
voltage from the start switch and the circuit is completed to the negative
ground. if we place the diode so the connector closest to the line is
toward the positive connector and the other end toward ground (-) when the
solenoid is activated ( the start switch on ) it will do nothing.... but
when the magnetic field in the solenoid winding is turned off ( the start
switch off ) and the high voltage reverse voltage spike is present. ( only
for a split second) the positive post will show a very high negative
voltage, and ground will be positive.... the diode will then conduct this
reverse voltage spike to ground, thus keeping it out of your other
electronics.
if any would like a picture let me know.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
a picture is worth a thousand words
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Still rebuilding and
modifing Original Firestar hope to be done by the end of july
Ellery
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
BTW....let me join with the others in congratulating you on the completion
and certification of your 3X.>>
Thanks Steve,
not quite there yet. The Xtra with Jabiru has now been `type approved` as
the result of the work and experimentation that Kiwimick has put in as
dealer.
This means that provided all the builders construct there machines exactly
the same as Kiwimicks they will come under that approval. The individual
machines will be signed off by the Inspectors who have been watching the
building of that particular machine. He will have approved the workmanship
in progressive stages and may or may not do the first flight. He will also
check that the Cof G is within limits and weigh the plane to make sure that
it is still an ultralight etc.,
In my case the exhaust and intakes will have to be modified so that they
match the changes which Kiwimick has had to make to get the Xtra through the
noise tests.
Another couple of weeks..I hope.. then.....
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Pat, Steve and all,
>>>>BTW....let me join with the others in congratulating you on the
completion
and certification of your 3X.>>
Thanks Steve,
not quite there yet. The Xtra with Jabiru has now been `type approved` as
the result of the work and experimentation that Kiwimick has put in as
dealer.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
As the originator of this thread, it sucks that it no longer has any
relation to the original thought.
If you are going to write about something off the thread topic, please start
your own thread.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
<http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
John, I've got to disagree with you. Congratulating a new owner on the
completion of his Kolb, and the process of getting it legalised, are
certainly "on topic" subjects
Am I missing something?
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 30, 2005, at 3:09 PM, John Williamson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Pat, Steve and all,
>
>>>>> BTW....let me join with the others in congratulating you on the
> completion
> and certification of your 3X.>>
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
> not quite there yet. The Xtra with Jabiru has now been `type approved`
> as
> the result of the work and experimentation that Kiwimick has put in as
> dealer.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> As the originator of this thread, it sucks that it no longer has any
> relation to the original thought.
>
> If you are going to write about something off the thread topic, please
> start
> your own thread.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> <http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Yes Russ, you are missing something.
My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under their
own "Subject."
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
<http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
I think he means to just change the subject line of the message not that it
is not Kolb related, just not thread related. Makes following the
conversation, and surching the archives much easier if you keep your subject
lines on topic.
Do not archive
Christopher Armstrong
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of russ kinne
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
John, I've got to disagree with you. Congratulating a new owner on the
completion of his Kolb, and the process of getting it legalised, are
certainly "on topic" subjects
Am I missing something?
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 30, 2005, at 3:09 PM, John Williamson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Pat, Steve and all,
>
>>>>> BTW....let me join with the others in congratulating you on the
> completion
> and certification of your 3X.>>
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
> not quite there yet. The Xtra with Jabiru has now been `type approved`
> as
> the result of the work and experimentation that Kiwimick has put in as
> dealer.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> As the originator of this thread, it sucks that it no longer has any
> relation to the original thought.
>
> If you are going to write about something off the thread topic, please
> start
> your own thread.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> <http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
My sincere apologies for "missing something". I saw your trip report
but didn't know what constituted a "thread"
Confusers & I aren't intimate and I apologize for this gap in my
knowledge.
But I hated to see any negative comments about a guy getting his bird
finished --
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:23 PM, John Williamson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Yes Russ, you are missing something.
>
> My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
> nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
>
> All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under
> their
> own "Subject."
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> <http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
My, my, aren't some getting touchy, touchy. Relax and enjoy the flowers. This group
and discussions shouldn't have any ironclad rules and regulations other than
those set up by the moderator. If someone wants to suggest something pertaining
to protocol, do it in a friendly, non insulting tone. Sometimes I think
that 4-6 Kolbers think they own the Kolb List.
No Russ, you didn't miss anything. What you did should be acceptable any time.
Ray
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russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
My sincere apologies for "missing something". I saw your trip report
but didn't know what constituted a "thread"
Confusers & I aren't intimate and I apologize for this gap in my
knowledge.
But I hated to see any negative comments about a guy getting his bird
finished --
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:23 PM, John Williamson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
>
>
> Yes Russ, you are missing something.
>
> My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
> nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
>
> All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under
> their
> own "Subject."
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> >
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
After waiting for that perfect atmosphere to fly in again,
this evening I had to lower my standards a touch.
Dew point 67, 80+F, slight linear breeze straight from the south.
-Like climbing through soup, the engine turning a happy 5000
but lacking enthusiasm. Once at an altitude good enough to keep
the neighbors happy it felt pretty good, the breeze from my
open doorway inflating the left leg of my shorts, cooling
the jewels nicely. The last bend I put in the aileron trim
tab has the stick in neutral with only a touch of back pressure
at 65. -very comfortable. Come January I'll be missing these
shorts and T shirt rides.
-BB
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| Subject: | Using an Electric starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Hey Dick, what kind of diode, volt & amp rating?
Thanks,
Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dickk9@aol.com
fly-ul@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Using an Electric starter
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dickk9@aol.com
Hi to all on the list,
Please consider this a heads up to everyone that has an electric starter on
their PLANE, PPC, PPG or what ever you may be flying. We have been seeing
an
increasing number of expensive electronic equipment failures caused by high
voltage spikes. This problem is easily solved by simply installing a 15
cent
device called a diode that can be picked up at any Radio Shack. The coil
that operates the starter solenoid of your electric start circuit will
induce a
high voltage spike into your electrical circuits if not properly protected
with this diode. If you have a left right both type, switch the
instructions
tell you how to do the installation of the diode. However, there are so
many
variations of start switches being used that it doesn=E2=80=99t get
mentioned in all
of their instructions.
It is real easy to do, just wire the diode at the start circuit solenoid
activation terminal with the line on the diode toward that terminal on the
solenoid and the other end of the diode to ground. How simple is that?
Might save
you $$$$$.
PS: If you are using our Hot Box it had already been done for you.
Safe Flying,
Dick Kuntzleman, President
Kuntzleman Electronics, Inc.
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| From: | Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Winchester, IN@roxy.matronics.com |
| Subject: | Re: Ferrying the FireFly from Perryville, MO to |
Winchester, IN
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Winchester,
IN
FireFlyers & Kolbers,
I put up some photos on:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly118.html
The next page includes photos of the Victor 1+ problem that stopped the
flight.
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly119.html
Today, I scraped a little very soft carbon off the top of the piston and off
the upper exhaust port surface. No carbon under the rings. Cleaned the
plugs and then I put most of the engine back together. I am making a new
lower coolant hose support to over come a chaffing problem.
I did not include any photos of how the FireFly traveled the last 100 miles
in a truck. That will have to wait for another day.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
John and All,
In my humble opinion, the discusions of trips are more suited to the
matronics chat room than here.
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Yes Russ, you are missing something.
>
> My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
> nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
>
> All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under their
> own "Subject."
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
> <http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
<Sometimes I think that 4-6 Kolbers think they own the Kolb List>
I agree Ray,
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
> My, my, aren't some getting touchy, touchy. Relax and enjoy the flowers.
> This group and discussions shouldn't have any ironclad rules and
> regulations other than those set up by the moderator. If someone wants to
> suggest something pertaining to protocol, do it in a friendly, non
> insulting tone. Sometimes I think that 4-6 Kolbers think they own the Kolb
> List.
> No Russ, you didn't miss anything. What you did should be acceptable any
> time.
> Ray
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> My sincere apologies for "missing something". I saw your trip report
> but didn't know what constituted a "thread"
> Confusers & I aren't intimate and I apologize for this gap in my
> knowledge.
> But I hated to see any negative comments about a guy getting his bird
> finished --
> Russ Kinne
> do not archive
>
> On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:23 PM, John Williamson wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
>>
>>
>> Yes Russ, you are missing something.
>>
>> My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
>> nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
>>
>> All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under
>> their
>> own "Subject."
>>
>>
>> John Williamson
>> Arlington, TX
>>
>> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
>> >
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Sounds awful nice to me!
Richard Swiderski, do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert bean
Subject: Kolb-List: damp air
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
After waiting for that perfect atmosphere to fly in again,
this evening I had to lower my standards a touch.
Dew point 67, 80+F, slight linear breeze straight from the south.
-Like climbing through soup, the engine turning a happy 5000
but lacking enthusiasm. Once at an altitude good enough to keep
the neighbors happy it felt pretty good, the breeze from my
open doorway inflating the left leg of my shorts, cooling
the jewels nicely. The last bend I put in the aileron trim
tab has the stick in neutral with only a touch of back pressure
at 65. -very comfortable. Come January I'll be missing these
shorts and T shirt rides.
-BB
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Recent Kolb Trip |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com>
In my humble opinion, the trip reports are the best part of this group and
are great filler for the list between times when someone has a question or a
solution. If those several people that seem to annoy you were to leave this
list or just keep quiet, this list would be to soon, a silent empty shell.
If those of you who are attacked by these few people decide to form a list
where you will be welcome as will your trip reports, please be sure to let
the rest of us know where you are moving so we can follow.
DEC
who even tho only a lurker has an opinion as valuable as yours.
Do Not Archive
-------Original Message-------
From: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
<Sometimes I think that 4-6 Kolbers think they own the Kolb List>
I agree Ray,
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent Kolb Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
> My, my, aren't some getting touchy, touchy. Relax and enjoy the flowers.
> This group and discussions shouldn't have any ironclad rules and
> regulations other than those set up by the moderator. If someone wants to
> suggest something pertaining to protocol, do it in a friendly, non
> insulting tone. Sometimes I think that 4-6 Kolbers think they own the Kolb
> List.
> No Russ, you didn't miss anything. What you did should be acceptable any
> time.
> Ray
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> My sincere apologies for "missing something". I saw your trip report
> but didn't know what constituted a "thread"
> Confusers & I aren't intimate and I apologize for this gap in my
> knowledge.
> But I hated to see any negative comments about a guy getting his bird
> finished --
> Russ Kinne
> do not archive
>
> On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:23 PM, John Williamson wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
>>
>>
>> Yes Russ, you are missing something.
>>
>> My thread was about an update on a recent trip I had completed and had
>> nothing to do about someone finishing a Kolb.
>>
>> All the discussion that blossomed is worthy of this list, but under
>> their
>> own "Subject."
>>
>>
>> John Williamson
>> Arlington, TX
>>
>> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 837 hours
>> >
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
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