Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/02/05


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:00 AM - Re: Recent Kolb Trip (PATRICK LADD)
     2. 03:29 AM - Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying (PATRICK LADD)
     3. 06:31 AM - Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying (Don Gherardini)
     4. 06:31 AM - Re: insurance in the UK and US (bryan green)
     5. 06:39 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2005 (John Hauck)
     6. 07:03 AM - List Protocol (John Hauck)
     7. 10:23 AM - Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying (robert bean)
     8. 11:20 AM - [ Denny Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
     9. 11:33 AM - Re: [ Denny Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Steve Cooper)
    10. 11:51 AM - [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    11. 01:15 PM - Exhaust tune (Herb Gayheart)
    12. 01:47 PM - Fw: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying (David L. Bigelow)
    13. 02:12 PM - Re: Fw: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying (bryan green)
    14. 02:47 PM - Taxi Requirement? (John Hauck)
    15. 03:06 PM - Re: Exhaust tune (Don Gherardini)
    16. 06:02 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. (Herb Gayheart)
    17. 06:38 PM - Re: evening flight in England (GeoR38@aol.com)
    18. 06:38 PM - Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll (GeoR38@aol.com)
    19. 07:12 PM - Re: Subaru Engine (GeoR38@aol.com)
    20. 07:31 PM - First Flight From I22 (Jack & Louise Hart)
    21. 07:40 PM - Re:Taxi Requirement?  (Mike Pierzina)
    22. 07:49 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. (Beauford)
    23. 08:06 PM - Re: Recent Trip (GeoR38@aol.com)
    24. 08:13 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. (Don Gherardini)
    25. 08:20 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. (Don Gherardini)
    26. 09:14 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. (Herb Gayheart)
    27. 09:31 PM - Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance./die spring thrust tester (Herb Gayheart)
    28. 09:53 PM - Re: First Flight From I22 (DAquaNut@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:00:04 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Recent Kolb Trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> How does insurance work on something llike that? If the inspector was to go down in your ship (heaven forbid), whose liability is it? It sounds like you have to jump through a few more hoops in the U.K. than we do here. What about crow-hopping? Will both you and the inspector be doing some of that too?>> Hi Steve, Good questions, and this being the the UK and not the USA, not something to which I have given much thought. I assume that Inspectors, who are appointed by the PFA, have some cover through the organisation.. Jumping through hoops? .Maybe. Seems to be swings and roundabouts You have a bit more freedom in one place and we have a bit somewhere else. Our system seems fairly logical, at least to us. The government, in the form of the CAA, has handed over the running of some sectors of the flying game to responsible organisatons. Light a/c, homebuilts are the resposibility of the PFA. Gliding goes to the British Gliding Assoc. and ultralights are Brit. Microlight Assoc. There is some blurring around the edges but that is generally correct. Each organisation runs an engineering section, inspectorate, instructors etc., In the PFA`s case when a new machine is designed, or imported, supporting paperwork and calculations must prove that it conforms to `Section S`, which is the bible, and this guarantees that it wont break. This sometimes precludes machines with many designs with thousands of flying hours which is often annoying if you want to import one for yourself. The PFA engineering dept. will scrutinise, test fly, check that the machine is legally what it is supposed to be,check for acceptable flying characteristics, and check the quality of any kits. Wing loading and MAUW in the case of ultralights and the noise levels. Approval of `TYPE` will then be issued and the import or production can start. The purchaser will then select a local Inspector from the PFA`s list and he will oversee the construction. If early on you prove that your workmanship is acceptable he will not bother you much but he will make a few calls and ensure that you have not departed from the plans (much). If you produce bad work he will make you do it again. Sometimes inspectors charge, sometimes not.When construction is finished you KNOW that it will fly and not kill you. When I built the Challenger, I was a fairly early buyer, the dealer and his test pilot turned up, checked it over, checked the C of G and flew it. I had already taxied it around and (accidentaly) bounced into the air a couple of times. Then I flew it myself. But that is another story. With the Kolb my inspector will check fly it and I have an arrangement with Kiwimick ( our dealer) for 3 hours conversion as part of the deal. Being with another pilot I do not expect to do crowhops, just lots of take offs and landings. You seem to have much more latitude, change engines, rejig angles of wings, tailplanes, weight distribution etc., . Truly `Experimental`. There is some pressure here for an Experimental category also. Sorry this is a bit long. Anyone not interested just hit the `delete` Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 03:29:48 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> I lengthened both struts to get several degrees wing dihedral >> Hi, this is the sort of thing I meant when I suggested that you had much more room for manoeuvre in the US. Doing this would require a `major mod` approval here as it would alter the flying characteristics. Also lengthening a strut may well require increasing its diameter as well to maintain its strength. Engineering calculations would be required. Cheers Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 06:31:44 AM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Dave, I fly my firefly in wind up to 20...thats about the max for me...but on a sunny day with spotty clouds...I might stay home due to rough air,with little wind. Thats alot worse on me than just wind..when it gets too "bumpy" so to speak. Let me share a short story with you. I decided to make a short "around the patch " video of flight in my Kolb. The day was pretty windy, but slightly overcast. I decided to wait till afternoon, maybe the wind will lay. Went to the airpark and several fellas were standing around waiting to get a flight but it was way to windy for them...challengers, Teams aircraft (minimaxs, V-maxs, and a Eros) and quicksilvers were their birds. The wind was just not cooperateing...getting on in the day but wind up to 20mph steady, and directly 90 degrees from our 2500ft grass strip..Well these guys were all talking about the terrible wind and getting kinda disgusted. Now, I did not want to be accussed of being a daredevil or reckless, so I just stood and listened to the jawin. I kept thinking that jeez, when I learned to fly wayback when in Oklahoma,(30 years ago) we were happy to see just 20 mph of wind..and I thought no reason to look like a show off in front of these my hangar mates. IF I just wait they will all go home and I will get in my short flight and see if this video idea will work. Some of the guys went home but some of the longer winded types just kept talking. Finally I slipped away and pushed out the Kolb. Wind now 20 and better ..but fairly steady. I made my flight..nary a hitch, got my neat little video and when I landed They were all gone but the airpark operator. I asked him where everybody went, and he said....well...2 left kinda disgusted...one said he was going to find a phone to call the nuthouse for you, and the other 2 left talking about building a Kolb next!!! Here is a link to the video I made that day, it on on my brothers RC model website, as I couldnt figure out how to get it on my builders pages. http://www.dgmodels.rchomepage.com/index.htm scroll down and look for.."take a ride in the Flagfly" THe video quality is not the best, but look at the windsock at the begining of the video..taken from the cockpit getting ready to launch. Just let me say this, with the comparatively heavy wing loading of a FireFly, and its better than average controlability compared to other very light designs. Its cross wind capacity is will let you fly when most other cannot. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm


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    Time: 06:31:44 AM PST US
    From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: insurance in the UK and US
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> There you go guys I changed the topic for you have a happy 4th. :~) Bryan Green Do not archive PATRICK LADD wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> > >How does insurance work on something llike that? If the inspector was to go >down in your ship (heaven forbid), whose liability is it? It sounds like >you have to jump through a few more hoops in the U.K. than we do here. What >about crow-hopping? Will both you and the inspector be doing some of that >too?>> > >Hi Steve, > Good questions, and this being the the UK and not the USA, not something to >which I have given much thought. >I assume that Inspectors, who are appointed by the PFA, have some cover >through the organisation.. >Jumping through hoops? .Maybe. Seems to be swings and roundabouts You have a >bit more freedom in one place and we have a bit somewhere else. >Our system seems fairly logical, at least to us. >The government, in the form of the CAA, has handed over the running of some >sectors of the flying game to responsible organisatons. Light a/c, >homebuilts are the resposibility of the PFA. Gliding goes to the British >Gliding Assoc. and ultralights are Brit. Microlight Assoc. There is some >blurring around the edges but that is generally correct. Each organisation >runs an engineering section, inspectorate, instructors etc., >In the PFA`s case when a new machine is designed, or imported, supporting >paperwork and calculations must prove that it conforms to `Section S`, which >is the bible, and this guarantees that it wont break. This sometimes >precludes machines with many designs with thousands of flying hours which >is often annoying if you want to import one for yourself. >The PFA engineering dept. will scrutinise, test fly, check that the machine >is legally what it is supposed to be,check for acceptable flying >characteristics, and check the quality of any kits. Wing loading and MAUW in >the case of ultralights and the noise levels. >Approval of `TYPE` will then be issued and the import or production can >start. >The purchaser will then select a local Inspector from the PFA`s list and he >will oversee the construction. If early on you prove that your workmanship >is acceptable he will not bother you much but he will make a few calls and >ensure that you have not departed from the plans (much). If you produce bad >work he will make you do it again. Sometimes inspectors charge, sometimes >not.When construction is finished you KNOW that it will fly and not kill >you. >When I built the Challenger, I was a fairly early buyer, the dealer and his >test pilot turned up, checked it over, checked the C of G and flew it. I had >already taxied it around and (accidentaly) bounced into the air a couple of >times. Then I flew it myself. But that is another story. > >With the Kolb my inspector will check fly it and I have an arrangement with >Kiwimick ( our dealer) for 3 hours conversion as part of the deal. Being >with another pilot I do not expect to do crowhops, just lots of take offs >and landings. > >You seem to have much more latitude, change engines, rejig angles of wings, >tailplanes, weight distribution etc., . Truly `Experimental`. There is some >pressure here for an Experimental category also. > >Sorry this is a bit long. Anyone not interested just hit the `delete` > >Pat > >do not archive > > > >


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    Time: 06:39:30 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2005
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Scott: Thanks for the invite. Not sure what I am going to do for Oshkosh, but if I get up your way, I will certainly stop in for a visit. Are you going to be able to fly down to OSH|? john h


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    Time: 07:03:47 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: List Protocol
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | I've never even considered the idea that somebody might have a reason for keeping them rigidly on topic. I'll do what I can to honor your request but I can't guarantee it because I won't always know that it's your thread. | | Steve Steve/Gang: I believe the primary reason for sticking to the subject is to enable us to find information in the archives. A lot of dribble gets placed in the archives because we forget to place DO NOT ARCHIVE at the bottom of our posts. There is a comprehensive list of rules, guidelines, posted by Matt once a month. I need at read and comply with his wishes as well as the rest of the members of our List. Happy 4th of July to all! john h titus, AL DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:23:18 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> nice video Don. Felt almost like flying. -BB do not archive > > http://www.dgmodels.rchomepage.com/index.htm > scroll down and look for.."take a ride in the Flagfly" THe video > quality is > not the best, but look at the windsock at the begining of the > video..taken > from the cockpit getting ready to launch. > >


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    Time: 11:20:34 AM PST US
    Subject: [ Denny Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List Subject: Tony Oneals Mk-3 Extra he calls Puff http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rowedl@highstream.net.07.02.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 11:33:10 AM PST US
    From: Steve Cooper <sportflyer@emcity.net> (SquirrelMail authenticated
    user sportflyer) by webmail.emcity.net with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:28:52.-0600@roxy.matronics.com (MDT)
    Subject: Re: [ Denny Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    Looking for used 912/912S. Cash buyer. sportflyer@emcity.net > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > <pictures@matronics.com> > > > A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > Poster: Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> > > Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List > > Subject: Tony Oneals Mk-3 Extra he calls Puff > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rowedl@highstream.net.07.02.2005/index.html > > > o Main Photo Share Index > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > o Submitting a Photo Share > > If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include > the following information along with your email message and > files: > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > 2) Your Full Name: > 3) Your Email Address: > 4) One line Subject description: > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) > One-line Description of each photo or file: > > Email the information above and your files and photos to: > > pictures@matronics.com > >


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    Time: 11:51:27 AM PST US
    Subject: [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List Subject: Taxi for the inspector http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@yahoo.com.07.02.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 01:15:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Exhaust tune
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Guys Haven't flown my Firefly for a while. I consider the fact that it will not turn up to normal rpm's with a 66 inch two blade or a 60 inch three blade IVO to be a problem. It boggs down at 4k rpms with a 66 inch two blade. Abt same with three blade. The engine is a brand new "old" points 447 that came with an exhaust wye but no muffler. Noticing that the mufflers were the same across all engines; I installed one that I had from a 532 rotax. The length from the exhaust port to the ball joint is 11 inches. From there to the muffler is 20 1/4 inches. Muffler is 15 1/2 inches long and the exhaust stub is 1 and one half inches long. I am wondering if I have the wrong combination of exhaust parts installed? I am in the process of checking seals, compression and timing. Herb in Ky


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    Time: 01:47:10 PM PST US
    From: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
    Subject: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> Sounds like we all have come pretty much to the same conclusions regarding how much wind we like to fly in. I generally avoid anything above about 15 mph unless it is down the runway and fairly steady. I've flown my Firestar with wind up to 25 mph, and had no problem with control, but it just isn't much fun. Taxiing crosswind or downwind with that much wind is a challenge. Also, I'm reluctant to park nose into the wind and get out with anything above 20 mph - too much of a chance of a gust picking up the nose and blowing the plane over. Parking tail into the wind works, but the ailerons bang around a lot. I've thought about making an aileron gust lock to carry in the plane. Single handed rigging when exposed to wind over 15 is pretty exciting too. I didn't like the spiral instability with my Firestar rigged with just the little bit of dihedral per the plans. I set the dihedral at 3.5 degrees, which takes away a lot of the busy work of keeping the wings level in turbulence and still allows a nice snappy roll rate. I do find the VG's give a better and more solid control feel in rough air. My Firestar is the best flying and most controllable ultralight I've flown. It's well designed, tough, and I don't worry about in flight structural failure. Hats off to Homer! Thanks for all the feedback. Dave Bigelow FS 2, 503 DCDI Kamuela, HI


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    Time: 02:12:47 PM PST US
    From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Maximum Wind for Kolb Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> David L. Bigelow wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> > > > I've thought about making an aileron gust lock to carry in the plane. Single handed rigging when exposed to wind over 15 is pretty exciting too. > > Hi Dave I carry a bungee cord with me when you park take a few turns around the stick to get the right tension then attach it to the tubes on eather side of the cockpit. It makes a nice light cheap control lock that you will not forget to remove. > > Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar 447 BRS >Thanks for all the feedback. > >Dave Bigelow >FS 2, 503 DCDI >Kamuela, HI > > > >


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    Time: 02:47:06 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Taxi Requirement?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Mike/Gang: Sorry, I do not understand the requirement to taxi as a prerequisite to a complete homebuilt inspection. For some, it may be the first time the builder/owner has had a chance to taxi his new airplane. Be a shame to break it at that time. I always felt better about feeling out a new airplane by doing it when I am alone at my airstrip or other strip that is not busy. john h Ft Campbell, KY (temporarily)


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    Time: 03:06:22 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Herb, might be the weather, if it is as hot and sticky there as it has been in illinois... I flew last weekend in 97 degreee heat....real high humidity...noticed 6250 WOT on climbout instead of the 6500 I usually see the way I have the prop adjusted. When I set it all up a few months ago, it was in much cooler temps and lower humidity...so I resisted the temptation to unload the prop a tad (Crank out a little pitch on that Ivo) All that said....you still might have it a tad rich at midrange if it wont "get over the hump" of 4k...which in that case, I might lower the needle a notch...but watch the temps at cruise rpm setting. BTW I am still running a 60 inch 2 blade....I dont have quite the room to install the 66, thinking about cutting it back to 63 or 64 and trying it....love those red blades!!! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm


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    Time: 06:02:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance.
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Don and all This 447 has been this way from day one. I have flown it for 5 hours with a 62 inch ivo but only get 6200 or so max. Plugs look just a bit rich. One piston was completely covered with carbon and the other has a splotchy pattern with completely clean areas. . One head was clean as new and the other has carbon/oil build up. I am in the process of checking it out today. I cannot find a method to check crank end seals. Is it: close off exhaust port, install plug and pressurize the case through the intake port. Piston all the way up? Anyone know how much pressure to use? Cannot be much? Herb Ps Glad you liked the blades. On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:48 -0500 "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Herb, > might be the weather, if it is as hot and sticky there as it has > been in > illinois... > I flew last weekend in 97 degreee heat....real high > humidity...noticed 6250 > WOT on climbout instead of the 6500 I usually see the way I have the > prop > adjusted. When I set it all up a few months ago, it was in much > cooler temps > and lower humidity...so I resisted the temptation to unload the prop > a tad > (Crank out a little pitch on that Ivo) > > All that said....you still might have it a tad rich at midrange if > it wont > "get over the hump" of 4k...which in that case, I might lower the > needle a > notch...but watch the temps at cruise rpm setting. > > BTW I am still running a 60 inch 2 blade....I dont have quite the > room to > install the 66, thinking about cutting it back to 63 or 64 and > trying > it....love those red blades!!! > > Don Gherardini > FireFly 098 > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:38:22 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: evening flight in England
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 6/24/2005 4:18:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pj.ladd@btinternet.com writes: when the sun gets low the air stills.>> Hi, your post just hit the right note. Here is last nights flight. It has been hot, by our standards, 80 to 90 for a week but with with a strongish gusty South wind which unfortunately did not drop in the evening. No flying. Yesterday was the same except that the wind ceased. In the evening it was beautiful. My inspector had done my annual C of A the day before, leaving me to do the flying checks. A timed climb from 1 to 2000 ft and a flight to VNE. This should be done in smooth conditions and last night was perfect. Flew at 7.30 pm from my strip, which really is a strip at the moment as the runway is the only cut bit in a field of mowing grass. Climbed into a cloudless sky with just a few little tickles from fading thermals. Did my climb by my stopwatch and then pushed the speed up to 100 mph. All straightforward. Landed to check the plane over after pushing up to VNE and to read my stopwatch. The dial of my cheapo imitation Brietling is too small to read without changing glasses, a complication I can do without in an open cockpit. Took off again, in shirt sleeves and shorts about 8.15pm. Did the climb check again to confirm my stopwatch reading and then wandered of in a slow climb to 3000ft agl.along the edge of Salisbury Plain looking for Crop Circles. The visibility was around 20 miles with the lowering sun casting long shadows across deep green fields. Columns of smoke from garden bonfires rose straight up and there were a few tractors working on the farms below, getting in the hay.. I flew along the Ridgeway, an old neolithic track, old when Stonehenge was built, which stretches for miles across the rolling hills and with the shadows being cast I could see the shapes if the hillcamps where the local tribes lived before the Romans came, and the hillocks of the tumuli where their warriors are buried. Silbury Hill, the largest man made hill in Europe showed up to port. No one knows what it was for but the Roman Road from Londinium to Aque Sulis (Bath) goes ROUND it. Just over there is the town in which I live, soft yellow limestone glowing in the sunlight. Saxons lived there on the side of the river about 600 years after Christ was born, and built one of the first churches in England. It is still there. A Roman later built a fine villa overlooking the river. We know because the tiled floor and the hypocaust and the foundations were discovered under the school playing field a couple of years ago. Just below me, in those hay fields, is the site of the battle of Ethandune, now the village of Edington, where King Alfred defeated the Danes. A couple of miles away is the old 1940`s airfield where I learned to fly and from which as a boy, I watched the Stirlings and Horsa gliders leave for the Normandy beaches and for the catastrophe of Arnhem There is the huge ditch and embankment which runs across the Plain as far as the Severn, more than a hundred miles. There is a legend that a ghostly carriage and four black horses are sometimes seen galloping along it as the body of a Queen of England is taken to her final resting place. One of the eight White Horses cut in the chalk of the Wiltshire hillsides drifted by underneath as I turned back towards the setting sun. Peering into the sunset I could just make out about 15 balloons drifting across the sky 10 miles away so I put in a dogleg so that I wasn`t flying blind into the sun and throttled back for a quiet easy drift slowly downwards to my field. Slight mist was just beginning to form in the valleys. One of the other ultra lights on my strip was being tucked away in the barn and another was just taxying in as I drifted on the downwind leg. I made a long approach over a trailerload of hay which had been left right in the way. Smooth touchdown and taxy in.I cut the engine and enjoy a quiet moment listening to the birds before climbing out and pushing my plane into its hangar. Slight mist just condensing on the windscreen. It is 9.15pm. Exchange a few words with the other pilots about a fly-in this weekend and then home to a beer on the porch to watch the full moon come up, blood red and huge, over the distant hills. It was so bright that watching the moon rise was like watching a sunset in reverse. What a day! Cheers Pat do not archive and to this, I must add .............................wow! George Randolph Firestar driver from the Villages, Fla ps I'd like to say ... been there done that, but, indeed, .... I've never been to England, then, ....have I?


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    Time: 06:38:34 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rotax 503 Failure Poll
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 6/21/2005 4:51:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, muso2080@yahoo.com writes: I believe I'll have to concede that point and thank-you for setting me straight. It makes perfect sense. I'll never be able to prove it though as I'm not willing to intentionally turn off a perfectly good running Rotax 503 and risk stuffing my airplane for the sake of practice or anything else. The REAL event, unplanned and possibly over hostile territory, is going to have a decidedly different flavor from anything you could stage anyway. I don't know if there is anything you could do that would adequately prepare you for it. I've landed "out" (away from the airport) a handful of times flying cross-country in 1-26 gliders and each time was a totally unique experience. Steve Kroll do not archive


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    Time: 07:12:32 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Subaru Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 6/21/2005 11:37:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rswiderski@earthlink.net writes: My SPG-2 gear reduction is rated at 135hp (4-stroke) & will work on either the 3 or 4 cyl as is, & on the Suburu with a different adapter. The Suzuki's are fuel injected & have a bullet proof reputation, though they will not have the smoothness of a flat 4. Richard Swiderski Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel & gaining on Big Lar Is this a Malapropism ....er.....what??!! George Randolph


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    Time: 07:31:46 PM PST US
    From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
    Subject: First Flight From I22
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Kolbers, The Victor 1+ is back together, and the FireFly is back in the air. A ten minute flight which included a couple turns over my house and then over my daughter's house, and then back to the airport. It was great to get back into the air. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net


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    Time: 07:40:46 PM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE:Taxi Requirement?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey John/Guys, That was my "Beef" too.....Why did I have to taxi it???? I already did the required taxi before the airworthiness inspection was set-up.....I taxi'd it at my Granny's field....slow taxi only...I didn't want to fast taxi til after my airworthiness inspection....just incase it should get airborne... My primary FAA (mido) inspector Eldon Griffin , who was a SOB about everything.... because he looks at REAL AIRPLANES....yeah, get over yerself Eldon... Anyway , he told my DAR to witness the plane taxi...he said "to check the brakes"... I told my DAR ( Tim Mahoney - Good Guy ) My plane doesn't even need to have brakes. I have brakes but their not required....When Tim told my Primary Inspector that he could look at my plane...set-up in my yard...and it wasn't nessesary to watch it taxi....He was THREATENED that if he didn't do exactly what he (Eldon) wanted , he wouldn't be inspecting any planes in the future.... I'm just GLAD IT"S OVER. It did taxi pretty good ...I have good tention on the tailwheel springs (compresstion) Thanks to monitoring the "list" Gotta Fly... Mike in MN N381PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Mike/Gang:Sorry, I do not understand the requirement to taxi as a prerequisite to a complete homebuilt inspection. For some, it may be the first time the builder/owner has had a chance to taxi his new airplane. Be a shame to break it at that time. I always felt better about feeling out a new airplane by doing it when I am alone at my airstrip or other strip that is not busy.john hFt Campbell, KY (temporarily) My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... --------------------------------- Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football


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    Time: 07:49:54 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Brother Gayheart... Ah, the mighty 447.... I cannot explain why your engine will only produce 6200...you didn't mention whether that was full throttle in level flight, or whether you had tried adjusting the IVO to finer pitch, or whatever... I'm no Rotax guru, but I would venture to offer that I don't believe 5 hours should have already produced appreciable carbon buildup on a 447 piston crown. It did not on mine. I can offer that I have verified and re-verified the info and advice provided to me on this list to the effect that jetting, prop loading and carbon accumulation are all interrelated (BFOO). As for the uneven distrubution of the carbon, have you checked to make sure the carb is aligned so as to be perfectly vertical to the engine...? (Not the airplane, but the engine...) My Bing seems exceedingly sensitive to this alignment, and will deliver uneven mixtures to the cylinders if tilted off-axis just the slightest amount. Good luck, Sir... Beauford FF #076 Brandon, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> > > Don and all > This 447 has been this way from day one. I have flown it for 5 hours > with a 62 inch ivo but only get 6200 or so max. Plugs look just a bit > rich. One piston was completely covered with carbon and the other has a > splotchy pattern with completely clean areas. . One head was clean as new > and the other has carbon/oil build up. > > I am in the process of checking it out today. I cannot find a method > to check crank end seals. Is it: close off exhaust port, install plug > and pressurize the case through the intake port. Piston all the way up? > Anyone know how much pressure to use? Cannot be much? > > Herb > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:06:40 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Recent Trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:32:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kolbrapilot2@comcast.net writes: It wasn't quite as primitive as I was ready for. I know John H. was worried about me not getting my milk and donuts for breakfast, so check out this picture of breakfast this morning: http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/100_3882.JPG. John W, I can't thank you enough for this very revealing picture of a moment in the life of.... Although I already know you from Swiderski's campfires at Sun n Fun ...... Now I REALLY think I know you!! George Randolph


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    Time: 08:13:31 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Herb, check the jet , those washed off areas on that piston are a definate indication of to rich a mix...


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    Time: 08:20:48 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Herb, ANother thought... the washed off area on that piston...fuel not burning.raw fuel washing off the piston..to rich..or...maybe weak spark on that coil....or the plug......still a turn or 2 on the Ivo prop hub bolt should unload it and then see if it will really wrap out...if not...I bet a buck its too rich or a weak spark for either above reason Don


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    Time: 09:14:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance.
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Don , Bro. Beauford, all The complicating factor is that it was run really rich for the first few hours. The needle/clip was on the wrong side of the plastic keeper! Bro. Pike diagnosed that for me. I tend to think that the carbon build up was from that? I thought that finding the needle in the wrong location would solve the problem? No luck. Piston and rings and jugs are in good shape. Carb is aligned. Compression was 117 and 120. How does that sound? Straight and level, I see abt 6200 rpms. 62 inch two blade. Ivo. Late this evening I buttoned it back up and moved on to timing and ignition. Gonna make an insert for my dial indicator in the morning. Thanks a bunch guys! :-) All asistance is appreciated. I haven't flown for a month or more. Working on an N3 Pup also. Herb On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:15:56 -0500 "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Herb, check the jet , those washed off areas on that piston are a > definate > indication of to rich a mix... > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:31:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust tune/447 mal performance./die spring thrust tester
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Don , Bro. Beauford, all You are correct, Don, in that it was run really rich for the first few hours. The needle/clip was on the wrong side of the plastic keeper! Bro. Pike diagnosed that for me. I tend to think that the carbon build up was from that? I thought that finding the needle in the wrong location would solve the problem? No luck. Since this is a new, old ,points ign engine, it is possible the end seals are bad. One guy who repairs them. promises me that that is the problem. Piston and rings and jugs are in good shape. Carb is aligned. Compression was 117 and 120. How does that sound? Straight and level, I see abt 6200 rpms. 62 inch two blade. Ivo. Late this evening I buttoned it back up and moved on to timing and ignition. Gonna make an insert for my dial indicator in the morning. Thanks a bunch guys! :-) All asistance is appreciated. I haven't flown for a month or more. Working on an N3 Pup also. Herb ps something that might be of interest--In replacing the bungee gear on my Pup with die springs; I came across some interesting info. Turns out that an 10 inch , blue die spring, deflects one inch per hundred pounds. should make a good, cheap, static thrust tester. Just make it like a die spring gear leg and attach a 6 inch rule that reads in tenth of an inch. Should be good to 450 lbs or so. On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:15:56 -0500 "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Herb, check the jet , those washed off areas on that piston are a > definate > indication of to rich a mix... >


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    Time: 09:53:26 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First Flight From I22
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 7/2/2005 9:32:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, jbhart@ldd.net writes: It was great to get back into the air. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jack, Great to hear your problem was not major, and you were able to get her going so quickly Ed DO NOT ARCHIVE




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