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1. 06:01 AM - Re: Walton crash/Flap Handles (John Hauck)
2. 06:09 AM - Re: boom failure (John Hauck)
3. 11:46 AM - Re: boom failure (Ron)
4. 11:53 AM - N3 - Die Spring Gear (jerb)
5. 12:17 PM - Re: boom failure (John Hauck)
6. 04:14 PM - Ms. Dixie (Paul Petty)
7. 04:45 PM - Re: Ms. Dixie (John Hauck)
8. 07:54 PM - Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear (HShack@aol.com)
9. 08:59 PM - Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear (jerb)
10. 09:06 PM - Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear (HShack@aol.com)
11. 09:32 PM - Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear (Herb Gayheart)
12. 09:49 PM - Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear (Herb Gayheart)
13. 10:08 PM - Selling Ultrastar (Don Martin)
14. 10:36 PM - Pictures of todays flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Walton crash/Flap Handles |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Walton's
| crash, it would probably be good to hear what Chuck Slusarczyk has
to say
| about it.
Richard P/All:
Thanks for the info. Chuck's comments sound much closer to actuality
than any of the "reporters" version of what lead up to the Walton
accident. As far as the cause of the accident, let's leave that up to
the experts.
Some of us that fly MKIII's, especially earlier versions, have had the
flap handle pop out of the detent on short final, just as John
Walton's Hawk did. When this happens, the aircraft will drop a short
distance causing the pilot to have a small heart attack. My fix was
to use a 5/32" chain saw file to cut a slight gap in the flap handle
stop. I believe the flat plate on the flap handle was heated to some
degree at the factory. This was to make it a spring to hold itself
into the detent system. Sometimes us club fisted pilots would pull
the handle to the side away from and down, bending the flat plate so
it would not seat in the detent. I had to take mine off and rebend it
to make it work correctly. That was a long time and many landings
ago. I use my flaps on every landing except when I am flying in high
wind and a great deal of turbulence.
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
MKIII/912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: boom failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
After closer examination, I found that the 'H' brace located inside
the boom had failed. The sleive that is welded to each side of the
curved brace had broken at the weld. | Thank you .......Bill
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Morning Bill P/Gang:
I am a little confused on your description of the tailboom "H" brace.
In particular, the part you refer to as "the curved brace". Can you
describe in further detail this "curved brace"?
The "H" braces I am familiar with, tail boom and wing, are straight
tube 4130 welded in the shape of an "H". No curved (bent) tubes
utilized in constructing the "H".
john h
titus, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: boom failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
Maybe some more information on the airplane that he has/had would
increase credibility like a sn # etc... .
On Jul 4, 2005, at 6:12 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> After closer examination, I found that the 'H' brace located inside
> the boom had failed. The sleive that is welded to each side of the
> curved brace had broken at the weld. | Thank you .......Bill
>
> Morning Bill P/Gang:
>
> I am a little confused on your description of the tailboom "H" brace.
> In particular, the part you refer to as "the curved brace". Can you
> describe in further detail this "curved brace"?
>
> The "H" braces I am familiar with, tail boom and wing, are straight
> tube 4130 welded in the shape of an "H". No curved (bent) tubes
> utilized in constructing the "H".
>
> john h
> titus, alabama
>
>
Have a great day!
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| Subject: | N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Herb,
If your doing it right, the die spring type gear modification on the N3
will make a world of difference. My hangar mate put it on his N3 and it
worked great. Next item is to dump those bicycle brakes, put some band
brakes on it. There light and more effective but not so strong to easily
cause a nose over. What are you running for an engine? Email me back direct.
jerb
At 11:29 PM 7/2/05 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
>
>Don , Bro. Beauford, all
>
> You are correct, Don, in that it was run really rich for the first
>few hours. The needle/clip was on the wrong side of the plastic keeper!
> Bro. Pike diagnosed that for me. I tend to think that the carbon build
>up was from that? I thought that finding the needle in the wrong
>location would solve the problem? No luck.
>
> Since this is a new, old ,points ign engine, it is possible the end
>seals are bad. One guy who repairs them. promises me that that is the
>problem.
>
> Piston and rings and jugs are in good shape. Carb is aligned.
>Compression was 117 and 120. How does that sound?
>
> Straight and level, I see abt 6200 rpms. 62 inch two blade. Ivo.
>
> Late this evening I buttoned it back up and moved on to timing and
>ignition. Gonna make an insert for my dial indicator in the morning.
>
>
> Thanks a bunch guys! :-) All asistance is appreciated. I haven't
>flown for a month or more. Working on an N3 Pup also. Herb
>
> ps something that might be of interest--In replacing the bungee gear
>on my Pup with die springs; I came across some interesting info. Turns
>out that an 10 inch , blue die spring, deflects one inch per hundred
>pounds. should make a good, cheap, static thrust tester. Just make it
>like a die spring gear leg and attach a 6 inch rule that reads in tenth
>of an inch. Should be good to 450 lbs or so.
>
>
>On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:15:56 -0500 "Don Gherardini"
><donghe@one-eleven.net> writes:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini"
> > <donghe@one-eleven.net>
> >
> > Herb, check the jet , those washed off areas on that piston are a
> > definate
> > indication of to rich a mix...
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: boom failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
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|
| Maybe some more information on the airplane that he has/had would
| increase credibility like a sn # etc... .
Ron/All:
To the best of my knowledge, "H" braces have been constructed in the
same manner since March 1984, with the exception of the initial
MarkIII's begininning in Jan 1991. These were constructed of aluminum
tube rather than 4130. My MKIII is SN: M3-011. One of my
responsibilities at the Kolb Factory during this time frame was to
inspect MKIII fuselages after they were welded. My first airframe was
M3-001 which was going to Rudy Doctor. Got to meet Rudy a couple
years ago at Lakeland.
Wasn't looking for credibility, but what this particular "H" brace
looked like based on its failure and the fact it did not sound like a
standard Kolb "H" brace. If it was a non-standard item, it may have
contributed to the failure.
I snapped off a tailboom tube in a crash of my MKIII at the aft end of
the "H" brace. The aluminum "H" brace held up well with just a tad of
the aft legs of the "H" brace protruding out the end of the broken
tail boom tube.
Take care,
john h
MKIII - First flight March 1992.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
On the lighter side of things today we just went flying! With one wings ailerons
and flap control done and the other on the table today we went flying around
the south. Departed HKS at 9:30am for Mobile AL down town
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040003.JPG
Nate at the helm and Charley right seat we climbed to 6000' after 45min we decided we would drop down to below the cloud base and push on to Mobile down town http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040004.JPG Little Charley agreed.... After landing at Mobile we flew out over the Gulf over Mobile bay with a 3 yr old aviator at the controls http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040006.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040019.JPG
Dauphin Island AL
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040032.JPG
The MS Gulf Coast
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7040035.JPG
Home Sweet Home
Have fun Gang That's what this is all about Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wings ailerons and flap control done and the other on the table
| Have fun Gang That's what this is all about Paul Petty
| Building Ms. Dixie
| Kolbra/912UL/Warp
Hi Paul/All:
Great flying pictures.
Good to hear you are making progress on the flap controls.
Take care,
john h (Worked like a dog on the 4th of July cleaning the inside of an
old 5th wheel)(But it is ready to go at a moments notice, should the
need arise)
MKIII/912ULS/72" 3/Blade Warp Drive
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 7/4/2005 2:53:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
If your doing it right, the die spring type gear modification on the N3
will make a world of difference. My hangar mate put it on his N3 and it
worked great.
Where would one acquire the die spring gear?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Note, Herb posted something about the gear he installed on his N3 Pup, not
a Kolb. Maybe he would post the picture of his to the Kolb list or to his
web space with a link. The gear on the N3 pup attaches in more
conventional manner for tube and fabric aircraft, different than the
typical socket mount used on the Kolb. Could it be adapted,
probably. Probably would be lighter than the aluminum legs but heavier
than the custom tempered chrome moly gear legs being manufactured by some
builders.
jerb
At 10:53 PM 7/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 7/4/2005 2:53:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
>If your doing it right, the die spring type gear modification on the N3
>will make a world of difference. My hangar mate put it on his N3 and it
>worked great.
>
>Where would one acquire the die spring gear?
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 7/4/2005 11:59:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
Note, Herb posted something about the gear he installed on his N3 Pup, not
a Kolb. Maybe he would post the picture of his to the Kolb list or to his
web space with a link. The gear on the N3 pup attaches in more
conventional manner for tube and fabric aircraft, different than the
typical socket mount used on the Kolb. Could it be adapted,
Wasn't inquiring for aa Kolb; it's a plane w/ gear similar to a Pup w/
bunjii.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Howard
I mentioned it in passing. I noticed that a 400 to 500 lb. thrust
tester could be made using a 10 inch blue die spring. It deflects one
inch per 100 lbs. Something that I discovered when I decided to
convert my N3 pup from bungees to spring gear. A bit off subject.
My 447 "challenged" Firefly has the std gear.
Checked timing yesterday and it came out within spec. Using the dial
indicator; it was within the .003 tolerance. Gonna double check the
gear box ratio tomorrow. Dropped the needle all the way. EGT peak is
now in the 4600 rpm range. Got an optical tach on the way to check my
other two tachs.
I have .dwg files for the die spring gear if anyone wants them.
Scale em up or down. Herb
do not archive
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:53:34 EDT HShack@aol.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 7/4/2005 2:53:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
> If your doing it right, the die spring type gear modification on the
> N3
> will make a world of difference. My hangar mate put it on his N3
> and it
> worked great.
>
> Where would one acquire the die spring gear?
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N3 - Die Spring Gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Gang
Looks like I got in on the wrong/long end of that thread. :-)
Howard---glad to send the .dwg cad files to you. Open with Auto Cad or
one of the internet free bees. I used Rhino . Herb
do not archive
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| Subject: | Selling Ultrastar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys,
Since my engine was ripped off in May, I'll be selling the Ultrastar
airframe at the Arlington fly-in this weekend. When I met many of you at
Monument Valley, I hoped that showing you its pics would help me find a
little of its history. No luck there. I bought the plane in Mississippi
and it had been modified by adding tapered wings, a pod and windscreen, 503
engine and a great landing gear.
I've no idea how much to ask for the airframe. It all seems to be in good
condition, Stits OK, full complements of instruments. Any ideas??
Don
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| Subject: | Pictures of todays flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings Kolb fans,
Below is a link for pictures I took today when flying around the SW desert.
Some of the picture show the Mexico-US border.
http://members.aol.com/firestartwo/today/
Enjoy
Guillermo Uribe
El Paso, TX.
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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