Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:24 AM - Re: mid range heat (Gene D. Ledbetter)
2. 04:33 AM - carb needles (Ted Cowan)
3. 01:53 PM - Gaffers Tape (Mike Pierzina)
4. 03:20 PM - Re: Gaffers Tape (Denny Rowe)
5. 04:23 PM - Re: Firestar II passenger (Larry Cottrell)
6. 04:23 PM - Re: Firestar II passenger (Larry Cottrell)
7. 04:30 PM - Re: Gaffers Tape (ray anderson)
8. 06:24 PM - Grass landing strip question (Tenn Metfan)
9. 06:45 PM - Re: Grass landing strip question (Todd Fredricks)
10. 06:50 PM - Re: Grass landing strip question (Kolbdriver)
11. 08:13 PM - Re: Firestar II passenger (Charlie England)
12. 08:27 PM - Re: Gaffers Tape (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
13. 08:37 PM - Re: Grass landing strip question (bryan green)
14. 08:41 PM - Re: Grass landing strip question (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: mid range heat |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter" <gdledbetter@earthlink.net>
jerb.
I didn't change the main jet so it's the standard jet that came with
the 447. I've never changed the main jet yet but I have not
installed my intake silencer yet which will require a main jet
change. Temps continue to be almost too cool. I'll have to drop it
a notch the next time we go flying.
Gene
On Jul 6, 2005, at 12:49 AM, jerb wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Ted & Gene,
> If your still on this list what size main jet did you use with this
> needle
> for the Rotax 447?
> jerb
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
thanks. didnt think anyone remembered me. I do miss my little kolb
firestar but I get over it every time I mount that great big high seated
SlingShot of mine. It might not have a 912 but it pushes my little body
quite well. You are right about the 582 needles. As John H. would say, it
works for me, might not for you. You gotta find your own way with a bunch
of guidance. What was weird to me was Kolb factory used to advise putting
the 582 on a tilt, one inch up in the back and now they dont even tell you
about it. I have mine at 7/8" up in the rear and raised up on 2" risers to
clear my wing fold (just barely clears). Soooo, check the archieves for
info, adjust to fit your particular needs, and test, test, test. NEVER take
one individuals word for anything. Do one change at a time and only small
changes. Keep records of the changes so you can go back or mix and match to
fit. Stay in the flight envelope you are used to and fits the plane. And
to all of you who think turning off the sound on your engine is cool -- YOU
ARE CRAZY. There is a multitude of reasons why that thing might not restart
and you are going to have the flight of your life -- maybe litterly. I
always practice with the engine on, just slightly higher than idle. That
produces what a call zero pitch. No push, no drag. It has worked on
several engine outs. Almost the same. You fuse will pitch up or down
depending and you can get used to it in your mind. Do what you want but I
do not like silence, sam I am.
Another note: "Go Casey" Right on brother. He was not a god, just a
man. Had more money but that dont make him better, smarter or whatever, I
mean, heck, he didnt buy a Kolb now did he? Ted Cowan, Alabama
Do not archieve.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Guys,
I was going to order some of that gaffers tape in white for my
aileron Gap seal.....But I don't put my credit
card number on the computer.....So I called them , single rolls HAVE TO BE ORDERED
BY COMPUTER....
Phone orders are a minimum of 6 rolls......
If I did order 1 roll ....after shipping and handling it would be $20 bucks (
1 ROLL )
I'll be lookin for a different way to do this......Painting Duct tape doesn't
sound so bad right now...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
do not archive
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down...
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| Subject: | Re: Gaffers Tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Mike, go with the clear 3M 845, its a ton cheaper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Gaffers Tape
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> I was going to order some of that gaffers tape in white for
> my aileron Gap seal.....But I don't put my credit
> card number on the computer.....So I called them , single rolls HAVE TO BE
> ORDERED BY COMPUTER....
> Phone orders are a minimum of 6 rolls......
> If I did order 1 roll ....after shipping and handling it would be $20
> bucks ( 1 ROLL )
>
> I'll be lookin for a different way to do this......Painting Duct tape
> doesn't sound so bad right now...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike
> in MN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way
> down...
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II passenger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
I My questions to
> the Firestar II pilots on the list (and I am sure this
> has probably been asked before) what was your weight
> and what was the heaviest passenger you have flown
> with and did you feel the plane handled that well?
Hi,
I kept waiting for someone else to respond to your question, since I
didn't want to incriminate myself unnecessarily. I have flown My Firestar ll
at a gross weight of 785 and the only thing is that you will burn more fuel
and it flies a lot like a 150 on a hot day. I am not suggesting that you
disregard the gross weight, that is a choice that no one but you can make. I
do suggest strongly that you check to see what your stall speed is with your
passenger and keep well above it. Keep your elevator and aileron inputs
gentle and refrain from any "Watch this".
Larry, Oregon
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II passenger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
I My questions to
> the Firestar II pilots on the list (and I am sure this
> has probably been asked before) what was your weight
> and what was the heaviest passenger you have flown
> with and did you feel the plane handled that well?
Hi,
I kept waiting for someone else to respond to your question, since I
didn't want to incriminate myself unnecessarily. I have flown My Firestar ll
at a gross weight of 785 and the only thing is that you will burn more fuel
and it flies a lot like a 150 on a hot day. I am not suggesting that you
disregard the gross weight, that is a choice that no one but you can make. I
do suggest strongly that you check to see what your stall speed is with your
passenger and keep well above it. Keep your elevator and aileron inputs
gentle and refrain from any "Watch this".
Larry, Oregon
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Gaffers Tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Denny,
Wal Mart has duck tape in a variety of colors. I just bought a roll of
red.
Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
Mike, go with the clear 3M 845, its a ton cheaper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina"
Subject: Kolb-List: Gaffers Tape
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina
>
> Hey Guys,
> I was going to order some of that gaffers tape in white for
> my aileron Gap seal.....But I don't put my credit
> card number on the computer.....So I called them , single rolls HAVE TO BE
> ORDERED BY COMPUTER....
> Phone orders are a minimum of 6 rolls......
> If I did order 1 roll ....after shipping and handling it would be $20
> bucks ( 1 ROLL )
>
> I'll be lookin for a different way to do this......Painting Duct tape
> doesn't sound so bad right now...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike
> in MN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way
> down...
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Grass landing strip question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Tenn Metfan <tnmetfanbeckett@yahoo.com>
Hello to all on the list,
I have read and appreciated all your advice, and banter for over 3 months now.
This is my first "post".
I have a real question, but please bear with me while I "indulge" for a few moments...
I have been smitten with flight since my earliest age. Model planes abounded. First
"real" flight, was hang gliding (go figure), hours on the practice hill were
worth that first solo (circa 1987)!! Then, a Cessna 152 in 1988 (age 26).
Got to solo it too, then found the grassroots... Ultra lights. Bought a Sorrell
Hyper light. Cute little red bi-wing. Taxied it for hours, then, lift off for
a quick "round the patch" flight. Emergency landing prep in the 152 suddenly
became handy. On the first downwind leg, engine out (crappy 277 engine)... did
all the usual stuff, landed safe. Folks on the ground even thought it was intentional!
Not quite.
Well, I began my quest for a homebuilt aircraft in 1994. And my first visits to
Oshkosh and Lakeland found me adoring the Kolbs. But money was tight, so I had
to wait... and wait... and wait.
Well, here I am, almost 12 years later. 11 Oshkosh visits (never got back to Sun'n'fun),
and have considered every craft out there. But are you surprised to
hear, the one that stays at the top of the list, is the Kolb? Despite the change
of ownership over the years, they still seem to maintain impeccable stature
in the light plane community.
Now, (finally) to my question.
After all these years, I think, I can afford a plane. And Kolb, has won the vote
(want a Mark III X, but think a Fire Star II is best for starters). I wanted
to have a home-based flight line, hanger, and strip. And after years of searching,
finally (just) bought 20 acres that I hope will house this dream. But though
it appears to be adequate for a home-based airstrip... I (in my quest for
safety) feel I should ask for the opinions of those that know best.
I will have a 1000' clear strip, with 400' on each end (to clear 50' obstacles).
Is this enough for practical operations? As I peer out, and dream of flights
of fancy, can never avoid the thought about safety. Guess that first Ultra light
flight taught me a lesson!
What are your opinions about grass strip lengths (adequate for a Kolb), or any
other opinions, are all welcome!
I plan to be at OSK again this year, in the campground area. Anyone else going?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
Mike Schnabel
Manchester, Tennessee
---------------------------------
Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
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| Subject: | Re: Grass landing strip question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
I will be there on Thursday and Friday Camping.
Todd
On 7/6/05 9:24 PM, "Tenn Metfan" <tnmetfanbeckett@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Tenn Metfan <tnmetfanbeckett@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Hello to all on the list,
>
>
> I have read and appreciated all your advice, and banter for over 3 months now.
> This is my first "post".
>
>
> I have a real question, but please bear with me while I "indulge" for a few
> moments...
>
>
> I have been smitten with flight since my earliest age. Model planes abounded.
> First "real" flight, was hang gliding (go figure), hours on the practice hill
> were worth that first solo (circa 1987)!! Then, a Cessna 152 in 1988 (age
> 26). Got to solo it too, then found the grassroots... Ultra lights. Bought a
> Sorrell Hyper light. Cute little red bi-wing. Taxied it for hours, then, lift
> off for a quick "round the patch" flight. Emergency landing prep in the 152
> suddenly became handy. On the first downwind leg, engine out (crappy 277
> engine)... did all the usual stuff, landed safe. Folks on the ground even
> thought it was intentional! Not quite.
>
>
> Well, I began my quest for a homebuilt aircraft in 1994. And my first visits
> to Oshkosh and Lakeland found me adoring the Kolbs. But money was tight, so I
> had to wait... and wait... and wait.
>
>
> Well, here I am, almost 12 years later. 11 Oshkosh visits (never got back to
> Sun'n'fun), and have considered every craft out there. But are you surprised
> to hear, the one that stays at the top of the list, is the Kolb? Despite the
> change of ownership over the years, they still seem to maintain impeccable
> stature in the light plane community.
>
>
> Now, (finally) to my question.
>
>
> After all these years, I think, I can afford a plane. And Kolb, has won the
> vote (want a Mark III X, but think a Fire Star II is best for starters). I
> wanted to have a home-based flight line, hanger, and strip. And after years of
> searching, finally (just) bought 20 acres that I hope will house this dream.
> But though it appears to be adequate for a home-based airstrip... I (in my
> quest for safety) feel I should ask for the opinions of those that know best.
>
>
> I will have a 1000' clear strip, with 400' on each end (to clear 50'
> obstacles). Is this enough for practical operations? As I peer out, and dream
> of flights of fancy, can never avoid the thought about safety. Guess that
> first Ultra light flight taught me a lesson!
>
>
> What are your opinions about grass strip lengths (adequate for a Kolb), or any
> other opinions, are all welcome!
>
>
> I plan to be at OSK again this year, in the campground area. Anyone else
> going?
>
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help!
>
>
> Mike Schnabel
>
> Manchester, Tennessee
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grass landing strip question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Mike,
I think your 1,000 feet will be more than plenty for most any Kolb. M3C
with 582 only needs about half that at max gross weight.
Steven Green
Etowah, TN
MKIII 912S
do not archive
> Hello to all on the list,
>
>
> I have read and appreciated all your advice, and banter for over 3 months
now. This is my first "post".
>
>
> I have a real question, but please bear with me while I "indulge" for a
few moments...
>
>
> I have been smitten with flight since my earliest age. Model planes
abounded. First "real" flight, was hang gliding (go figure), hours on the
practice hill were worth that first solo (circa 1987)!! Then, a Cessna 152
in 1988 (age 26). Got to solo it too, then found the grassroots... Ultra
lights. Bought a Sorrell Hyper light. Cute little red bi-wing. Taxied it for
hours, then, lift off for a quick "round the patch" flight. Emergency
landing prep in the 152 suddenly became handy. On the first downwind leg,
engine out (crappy 277 engine)... did all the usual stuff, landed safe.
Folks on the ground even thought it was intentional! Not quite.
>
>
> Well, I began my quest for a homebuilt aircraft in 1994. And my first
visits to Oshkosh and Lakeland found me adoring the Kolbs. But money was
tight, so I had to wait... and wait... and wait.
>
>
> Well, here I am, almost 12 years later. 11 Oshkosh visits (never got back
to Sun'n'fun), and have considered every craft out there. But are you
surprised to hear, the one that stays at the top of the list, is the Kolb?
Despite the change of ownership over the years, they still seem to maintain
impeccable stature in the light plane community.
>
>
> Now, (finally) to my question.
>
>
> After all these years, I think, I can afford a plane. And Kolb, has won
the vote (want a Mark III X, but think a Fire Star II is best for starters).
I wanted to have a home-based flight line, hanger, and strip. And after
years of searching, finally (just) bought 20 acres that I hope will house
this dream. But though it appears to be adequate for a home-based
airstrip... I (in my quest for safety) feel I should ask for the opinions of
those that know best.
>
>
> I will have a 1000' clear strip, with 400' on each end (to clear 50'
obstacles). Is this enough for practical operations? As I peer out, and
dream of flights of fancy, can never avoid the thought about safety. Guess
that first Ultra light flight taught me a lesson!
>
>
> What are your opinions about grass strip lengths (adequate for a Kolb), or
any other opinions, are all welcome!
>
>
> I plan to be at OSK again this year, in the campground area. Anyone else
going?
>
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help!
>
>
> Mike Schnabel
>
> Manchester, Tennessee
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II passenger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Larry Cottrell wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
>I My questions to
>
>
>>the Firestar II pilots on the list (and I am sure this
>>has probably been asked before) what was your weight
>>and what was the heaviest passenger you have flown
>>with and did you feel the plane handled that well?
>>
>>
>
>Hi,
> I kept waiting for someone else to respond to your question, since I
>didn't want to incriminate myself unnecessarily. I have flown My Firestar ll
>at a gross weight of 785 and the only thing is that you will burn more fuel
>and it flies a lot like a 150 on a hot day. I am not suggesting that you
>disregard the gross weight, that is a choice that no one but you can make. I
>do suggest strongly that you check to see what your stall speed is with your
>passenger and keep well above it. Keep your elevator and aileron inputs
>gentle and refrain from any "Watch this".
>Larry, Oregon
>
A couple of additional points:
On the assumption that the plane will be registered as a homebuilt
experimental, you as the mfgr, not Kolb, get to set the gross weight.
Does not mean to be reckless with the number, just that *you* control
the number on your paperwork. Set it too high & actually fly at the
too-high weight & you might die. Set it lower than the gross weight you
actually fly it at & you might lose your license. If you carry
insurance, they almost certainly won't pay if they discover it's been
flown above the 'paper weight'.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Gaffers Tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Use 4 inch finishing tape it worked great for me
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rebeuiding original Firestar, NO serial Number on it
Ellery in MAINE
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| Subject: | Re: Grass landing strip question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Welcome to the list Mike the airport I fly from(52J) has a 2400 ft grass
strip most of the time by about mid field I have about 200 ft agl (heavy
Firestar fat pilot ) , so I'd say you got a plenty. There's a lot of
guys on this list that have more time figuring out where to go to the
bathroom in their Kolbs then I do flying and I'm sure they will post also.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS
Do not archive
Tenn Metfan wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Tenn Metfan <tnmetfanbeckett@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Hello to all on the list,
>
>
>I have read and appreciated all your advice, and banter for over 3 months now.
This is my first "post".
>
>
>I have a real question, but please bear with me while I "indulge" for a few moments...
>
>
>I have been smitten with flight since my earliest age. Model planes abounded.
First "real" flight, was hang gliding (go figure), hours on the practice hill
were worth that first solo (circa 1987)!! Then, a Cessna 152 in 1988 (age 26).
Got to solo it too, then found the grassroots... Ultra lights. Bought a Sorrell
Hyper light. Cute little red bi-wing. Taxied it for hours, then, lift off
for a quick "round the patch" flight. Emergency landing prep in the 152 suddenly
became handy. On the first downwind leg, engine out (crappy 277 engine)...
did all the usual stuff, landed safe. Folks on the ground even thought it was
intentional! Not quite.
>
>
>Well, I began my quest for a homebuilt aircraft in 1994. And my first visits to
Oshkosh and Lakeland found me adoring the Kolbs. But money was tight, so I had
to wait... and wait... and wait.
>
>
>Well, here I am, almost 12 years later. 11 Oshkosh visits (never got back to Sun'n'fun),
and have considered every craft out there. But are you surprised to
hear, the one that stays at the top of the list, is the Kolb? Despite the change
of ownership over the years, they still seem to maintain impeccable stature
in the light plane community.
>
>
>Now, (finally) to my question.
>
>
>After all these years, I think, I can afford a plane. And Kolb, has won the vote
(want a Mark III X, but think a Fire Star II is best for starters). I wanted
to have a home-based flight line, hanger, and strip. And after years of searching,
finally (just) bought 20 acres that I hope will house this dream. But though
it appears to be adequate for a home-based airstrip... I (in my quest for
safety) feel I should ask for the opinions of those that know best.
>
>
>I will have a 1000' clear strip, with 400' on each end (to clear 50' obstacles).
Is this enough for practical operations? As I peer out, and dream of flights
of fancy, can never avoid the thought about safety. Guess that first Ultra light
flight taught me a lesson!
>
>
>What are your opinions about grass strip lengths (adequate for a Kolb), or any
other opinions, are all welcome!
>
>
>I plan to be at OSK again this year, in the campground area. Anyone else going?
>
>
>Thanks in advance for all your help!
>
>
>Mike Schnabel
>
>Manchester, Tennessee
>
>
>---------------------------------
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grass landing strip question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Tenn Metfan You get a kolb You will be happy forever I use many 750 ft
strips with plenty of room
I am in a firestar and hoping to move into a 2 place the wife likes to fly
Also I will alwas be a Kolb User if my wife wants to fly with me she will have
to get in a Kolb
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