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1. 04:29 AM - Helloooo ! (PATRICK LADD)
2. 04:44 AM - Re: 447 Follies (John Hauck)
3. 04:48 AM - Re: Helloooo ! (John Hauck)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: 447 Follies (Richard Swiderwski)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: ultrastars (Bruce n' Kathy)
6. 06:04 AM - Re: 447 Follies - Seafoam (Beauford)
7. 09:35 AM - Re: new member with questions (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
8. 02:27 PM - Re: ultrastars (ron wehba)
9. 03:32 PM - Firestar landing gear upgrade (JUDD LYNN)
10. 04:03 PM - Re: ultrastars (Steve Garvelink)
11. 04:03 PM - Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com)
12. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com)
13. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com)
14. 05:58 PM - Re: MK3 High stall speed problem (Peter Bosch)
15. 06:35 PM - UltraStar (Terry Frantz)
16. 07:02 PM - Kiev Hot Prop vs Ivo Prop (Richard Pike)
17. 08:52 PM - Re: MK3 High stall speed problem/Tail Wheel First Landings (John Hauck)
18. 08:59 PM - Re: Firestar landing gear upgrade (Larry Cottrell)
19. 09:02 PM - Re: ultrastars (woody)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Anyone out there????
No messages for 2 days.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|Please, this
| question is directed to Beauford only.
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| Ed ( in Hou. )
Morning Ed/Gang:
Promise I won't get anything started, but was wondering why you did
not sent your question to Beauford bc?
I start my mornings with three cups of coffee, strong coffee. First
cup I pour a shot of Seafoam. My rings have not been stuck since I
started this procedure shortly after joining the Kolb List in Spring
1998! ;-)
john h
MKIII/912ULS (packing for flight to OSH, the long way and six days
flying to get there)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Pat
Patrick/Gang:
Did you pay the rent?
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Hey John,
I never heard of mixing it with coffee, but that's why we are
labeled experi-"mental". Did you drink it straight & chase it, or did you
combine it with coffee 1st?
Back decades ago when I was 2-stroking, I religiously premixed 1 oz.
of Sea Foam per 2.5 gal of fuel, plus I added Marvel Mystery oil as
directed. I did this to prevent the build up from happening in the 1st
place. It had the added benefits of getting any water out of system &
stabilizing the fuel if it sat for long periods.
Richard Swiderski
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 447 Follies
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|Please, this
| question is directed to Beauford only.
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| Ed ( in Hou. )
Morning Ed/Gang:
Promise I won't get anything started, but was wondering why you did
not sent your question to Beauford bc?
I start my mornings with three cups of coffee, strong coffee. First
cup I pour a shot of Seafoam. My rings have not been stuck since I
started this procedure shortly after joining the Kolb List in Spring
1998! ;-)
john h
MKIII/912ULS (packing for flight to OSH, the long way and six days
flying to get there)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
I have been reading this list for the last few years (lurking)
I currently fly trike, and PPC and am waiting patiently on
flying my fixed wings, Training is the big issue for me, only got 16
hrs so far. I want to be comfortable.
Anyway, I have heard the same thing over and over about people selling
there Ultrastar's and missing them, that is why I purchased one as my
first ultralight, but still havent flown.. Couldnt get enough
training locally.
Anyway last year I had a chance to pick up a spare US. and did.
again I hear how people miss their U.S.s
at fathers day fly in I heard it again.
I learned a lot about them through this list and fellow owners.
This year I got a better idea for engine mounting, while at the Fathers
day fly in Wellsville PA.
I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear
drive Idea.
I believe I found the right ultralight because I have never heard any
other ultralight including trikes and ppcs being missed as much as
the Ultrastar. I have only heard of one quicksilver being missed, a 2
place mxl double surface with a 503
Again I will watch the list. And lurk.
Gotta go work on my friends Lazair with it dual JPX 22 hp engines and
Delloroto carbs. Anyone ever work on them? Could use a little more
info on tuning carbs, the manual doesnt quite get it all.
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Bruce
Come and visit us at http://www.usua4.org
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Subject: | Re: 447 Follies - Seafoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Ed...
No... I was not using Seafoam or any other additive in the gas mix... I was
under the impression that none was required....and I still believe that to
be the case if the engine is set up and operated properly. I intend to do
some more fiddling with the mixture and the prop loading to see if I can
work out a better balance... a little leaner and a little more load. As
already indicated in my note to John, I believe I have been running it hard
enough that it should have been able to scavenge properly, so I think the
trouble is in mixture and prop. It probably does not help that paraffin
base oils like the Pennzoil air cooled will coke at a relatively low
temperature when compared against the synthetics. I think my 447 runs a tad
hot anyway, but for one reason or another, I have obviously exceeded the
temp limits of the oil... that stuff was about two-thirds of the way to
becoming diamonds... had a tough time getting it off. By the way, I used
Seafoam as the solvent to help remove the crud.
Luckily, global warming had set in in Manatee County, so at no time during
my 7 hours up a ladder did my fingers become too numb with cold to hold a
wrench...
Baked Beauford
FF #076
Brandon FL
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
> > >
> I dont want to get anything started but were you using Seafoam
> treatment >
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> Ed ( in Hou. )
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Subject: | Re: new member with questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< Would like all the info. i could get on trailering Kolb , as I would
like to take in back and forth between Michigan and Florida ... >>>
Hi, Jim - Welcome to the List
Although you'll find this in the Archives, a short summary of the general
opinion on trailering a Kolb is: You'll want to support the tailboom with
something more robust than the stock Kolb wing supports. For extended
trailering, the stock wing support setup on our Kolbs just don't hold up.
Several members have devised their own tail dollies for this purpose.
Here is one idea: There are several others, as well.
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil.02.12.2005/
Other than that, the Kolb's quick wing fold design is woderful for easy,
one-person setup/takedown. Good luck ... you made the right decision is
choosing a Kolb!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3 in
New Mexico
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear
drive Idea
what is this??? did i miss something
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Subject: | Firestar landing gear upgrade |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: JUDD LYNN <juddlynn@sbcglobal.net>
I have a firestar that was built in 1994. It has the smaller landing gear legs.
I believe they are 1 1/8" in diameter. In deciding to change them, the factory
asked if I wanted to replace them with the heavier 1 1/4" diameter legs. These
are not only stiffer, but a bit longer, which I was told gives the plane more
stability on the ground. It looks like the larger ones will fit into the shafts
in the fuselage cage, since the old [smaller] ones had a sleeve around them
to make up for the difference in diameter. But I'm wondering if the additional
height is a problem. With the extra height at the front of the plane, but
unchanged height at the tailwheel, the angle of attack is greater, right? Is this
a problem, or an advantage? And what if I want to put on tundra tires? This
will make the front even taller. Thanks for any advice.
Judd Lynn
Firestar II
JuddLynn@sbcglobal.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
For anyone that is interested they have a reduction drive,(belt) that
will fit a cuyuna and others and has the ring gear and bosch starter
mount. It will make an us with electric start.
REDUCTION DRIVE, BELT REDRIVE . AVAILABLE FOR SALE OR TRADE . This is a
Brand New , never installed on anything Reduction drive , or redrive if
you like. This redrive can be used on many snowmobile or so called
aircraft engines including Rotax Kawasaki Chaparral Zenoah Suzuki Yamaha
and others used for aircraft , Powered Parachutes or Trikes. These
redrives have been installed on engines up to 97 horsepower and work
quite well , There are two ratios available 2.58 to 1 and 2 to 1 . The
redrive includes only what is in the picture , nothing else , no prop,
engine, radiator or exhaust . The list price of this redrive is $ 988.
Give me a call , make an offer over $ 500. please, only a couple left,
Please note , this redrive will not just bolt onto all engines listed
above , in many cases it will take some type of machining of some sort
or drilling holes in different locations .I will be happy to answer any
questions or help in any way i can. Many other redrives are also
available , try me , My 26 th year. . Contact Steve Beatty - AIRSCREW
PERFORMANCE located Glendale, AZ USA . Telephone: 623-842-3902 . Posted
July 12, 2005 . Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wehba
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ultrastars
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@pegasusbb.com>
I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear
drive Idea
what is this??? did i miss something
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Subject: | Re: new member with questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com
Thanks Rick Neilsen,
will contact you, I live close to you, just West of Eaton Rapids about 5
miles. Will try and get over Friday to see the Kolbs. thanks again.
Jim Swan
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Subject: | Re: new member with questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com
Hello Dennis,
Thanks for the info on trailering. will check out your site. I have
gone thru the archives and got some good information there on trailers. Will
now decide which model Kolb and engine size. Will soon start looking at some
that are for sale. I intend to take my time finding one that appeals to me, but
it sure is diffucult to not dive in and get started. At my age of 74 I am
not sure it is wise to procastanate, thanks again to you and the others that
have shared information... Jim Swan in Michigan
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Subject: | Re: new member with questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com
Hello again Dennis,
Yes I did see pictures of the trailering dolly you built. Looked at it
again and it looks very good. Will want to talk with you about it in detail
when i get a Kolb purchased. thanks Jim Swan
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Subject: | Re: MK3 High stall speed problem |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Peter Bosch <cheeky@acenet.co.za>
Thanx guys for all the feedback ( impressed)
It is the Kolb Mark 111 (Classic?) Manufactured in 1993
The customer bought it without any plans so I do not have any ref to check if the
wingspan
is even standard, what the angle of incidence should be or even the up/downthrust
of the
engine.
I have received a responce from the factory and will keep you all posted.
She has a centre section.Fully enclosed cabin with doors.
I have not checked the CG myself.
High speed landings and long runs (thnx David)
Good point Richard, but..
assuming any aircraft stalling at any speed, when I am in the flare and the tail
touches
down it stops my elevator working and slams the front wheels into the ground. (thnx
Robert)
I get the feeling I would have loved longer legs.
To solve this I reverted to my favorite tailwheel landings: the wheely.
I have not calibrated his ASI but have checked it against a GPS (not accurate method)
but I
will be installing my Skydat in his plane and calibrate the instalation with seperate
static
port.
One gets used to speeds in other aircraft and stops looking at airspeeds on landings
but
this specific plane made me look! :~)
I have found another mk3C owner closeby in South Africa. He is going to come and
evaluate
her for me.
I know this specific plane is anti-Kolb specs and I will get to the root of the
problem and
turn her into a proper Kolb !
Thans again for the amazing feedback from this group.
Regards,
Peter
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Peter Bosch
Ultralight Marketing
Web: http://www.ulm.co.za
E-mail: cheeky@acenet.co.za
Po Box 264473. Three Rivers. 1935. South Africa.
Tel: +27 (0)83 753-4678 Fax: +27 (0)16 933-6540
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Have a friend that has an UltraStar for sale. Flyable, but needs some
attention to the covering. Has a 2SI engine with 190 hr.'s on it, air
frame has 1400+TT, BRS, strobe, nose pod, tundra tires, 3 blade IVO
prop, 2SI belt drive, Airspeed, VSI, CHT, EHT and Tack. Was asking $4,500.
His name is Wilmer Zimmerman, lives in Lancaster County, PA and his
phone is 717-354-9351.
Terry - Firefly #95
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Subject: | Kiev Hot Prop vs Ivo Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
A while back I mentioned that I was going to get the loan of a new Kiev Hot
Prop to compare with the Ivo Prop.
Today we got 'r done. Here is the data, forgive the long post.
The aircraft is a new FSII with a Rotax 582, E gearbox, 3:1 ratio.
Intake silencer, after muffler.
Ivoprop is 68" two blade.
Hot Prop is 67" three blade.
Static max rpm
Ivo 6150 Kiev 6130 (after an hour of adjusting)
Full throttle climbout at 50 mph:
Ivo unloaded to 6200-6230, Kiev unloaded to 6250
RPM
4600 Ivo 54 mph Kiev 50 mph
4800 Ivo 55 Kiev 52
5000 Ivo 60 Kiev 55
5200 Ivo 65 Kiev 62
5400 Ivo 69 Kiev 65
5600 Ivo 73 Kiev 70
5800 Ivo 77 Kiev 74
6000 Ivo 80 Kiev 78
Flying level at 5400 rpm and around 65-70, pulled up into a slight climb,
did not adjust throttle, the Ivo loaded the engine down to 4950, the Kiev
loaded it to 4750. The Kiev seemed to be more sensitive to changes in
attitude and angle of attack variations resulting in varied rpm's due to
prop loading. The Ivo was less sensitive, the rpm's stayed more constant.
The Kiev seemed to accelerate harder from a standstill than the Ivo, and at
full throttle climbout, the Kiev gave a consistent 1,000'/minute climb. The
Ivo climbed at between 800-1,000'/minute. The Kiev seemed better at
climbout, however, that might be a function of having three blades, and
therefore a finer pitch for each blade, which would turn it into a climb
prop anyway. I have found that three blade Ivo's accelerate and climb
better than two blade Ivo's so a two blade Ivo vs a three blade Kiev might
be an apples and oranges comparison.
Noise-
Takeoff -
The Kiev was quieter when standing beside the runway and listening to a
full power takeoff and climbout.
At high power settings, the Ivo could still be heard at a greater distance
from the field than the Kiev.
Flyby- standing by the runway, listening to a fly over -
At cruise power settings around 5400 rpm or greater, the Kiev is quieter.
At power settings below 5000, the Ivo is quieter.
In the cockpit -
The Kiev is just very slightly quieter, but now is a good time to discuss a
noticeable difference in the sound characteristics between the two props.
The Kiev is a more high-pitched droner/whiner noise and the Ivo two blade
is a growler. (I have used Ivo three blades, and they tend to be
droner/whiners too, this probably gets back to the difference between
two/three blade props)
In the cockpit there is only the smallest difference in the sound volume,
however the Kiev drone would get very annoying after a while, it would not
be a pleasant cross country prop. The Ivo has a more bass note, sort of
like a full size aircraft prop, and is less annoying. A good ANR headset
would probably make this a moot point.
Disclaimer - The Ivo was used with a 2' prop hub extension, the Kiev was
not, (we didn't have any prop bolts the right length) so this might be an
unfair comparison.
At low and cruise power setting fly-bys, the Ivo 2-blade makes the Rotax
2-stroke sound much like a 4 stroke, whereas the Kiev makes it sound very
"Ultralighty/2-stroke, very much the traditional 2 stroke noise." However,
this is probably more a characteristic of a two blade prop versus a three
blade prop rather than the design of the props themselves. (in my opinion)
The Ivo two blade is a smooth running prop, but the Kiev is notably
smoother. A very smooth prop.
My conclusions? The Kiev has a good noise reduction to the neighborhood,
but I would not want to fly with it unless I got an ANR headset.
Each has it's strengths and weaknesses, irrespective of the possible 2
blade/3 blade inequities.
The Ivo is WAY easier to adjust. The Kiev is tedious to adjust.
The Ivo gives good performance for the money.
Unless you have a neighbor situation, I would find it hard to justify
spending twice as much for a Kiev.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: MK3 High stall speed problem/Tail Wheel First Landings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| assuming any aircraft stalling at any speed, when I am in the flare
and the tail touches
| down it stops my elevator working and slams the front wheels into
the ground. (thnx Robert)
| I get the feeling I would have loved longer legs.
| To solve this I reverted to my favorite tailwheel landings: the
wheely.
Peter/Gang:
Homer Kolb designed the MKIII to land and take off in a level
attitude. That is why you are hitting the tail wheel first when you
try to flare it to land.
Longer gear legs do not help much on the MKIII because the gear leg
sockets are such a flat angle.
We redesigned the main gear on my MKIII and she lands in a proper
three point stance.
john h
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Subject: | Re: Firestar landing gear upgrade |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "JUDD LYNN" <juddlynn@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar landing gear upgrade
. But I'm wondering if the additional height is a problem. With the extra
height at the front of the plane, but unchanged height at the tailwheel, the
angle of attack is greater, right? Is this a problem, or an advantage? And
what if I want to put on tundra tires? This will make the front even taller.
Thanks for any advice.
>
Hi,
I also have an earlier version of the Firestar II and have changed over
to the heavier legs. I highly recommend them, you will not be sorry. I found
nothing but positive results with mine.
Larry, Oregon
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
\>
> I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear
> drive Idea
>
> what is this??? did i miss something
>\
YEP.
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