---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/18/05: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:29 AM - Helloooo ! (PATRICK LADD) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: 447 Follies (John Hauck) 3. 04:48 AM - Re: Helloooo ! (John Hauck) 4. 05:37 AM - Re: 447 Follies (Richard Swiderwski) 5. 05:52 AM - Re: ultrastars (Bruce n' Kathy) 6. 06:04 AM - Re: 447 Follies - Seafoam (Beauford) 7. 09:35 AM - Re: new member with questions (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 8. 02:27 PM - Re: ultrastars (ron wehba) 9. 03:32 PM - Firestar landing gear upgrade (JUDD LYNN) 10. 04:03 PM - Re: ultrastars (Steve Garvelink) 11. 04:03 PM - Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com) 12. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com) 13. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: new member with questions (Arksey@aol.com) 14. 05:58 PM - Re: MK3 High stall speed problem (Peter Bosch) 15. 06:35 PM - UltraStar (Terry Frantz) 16. 07:02 PM - Kiev Hot Prop vs Ivo Prop (Richard Pike) 17. 08:52 PM - Re: MK3 High stall speed problem/Tail Wheel First Landings (John Hauck) 18. 08:59 PM - Re: Firestar landing gear upgrade (Larry Cottrell) 19. 09:02 PM - Re: ultrastars (woody) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:26 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Kolb-List: Helloooo ! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" Anyone out there???? No messages for 2 days. Pat -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:29 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 447 Follies --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" |Please, this | question is directed to Beauford only. | | | Ed ( in Hou. ) Morning Ed/Gang: Promise I won't get anything started, but was wondering why you did not sent your question to Beauford bc? I start my mornings with three cups of coffee, strong coffee. First cup I pour a shot of Seafoam. My rings have not been stuck since I started this procedure shortly after joining the Kolb List in Spring 1998! ;-) john h MKIII/912ULS (packing for flight to OSH, the long way and six days flying to get there) DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:07 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Helloooo ! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | Pat Patrick/Gang: Did you pay the rent? john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:18 AM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 447 Follies --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Hey John, I never heard of mixing it with coffee, but that's why we are labeled experi-"mental". Did you drink it straight & chase it, or did you combine it with coffee 1st? Back decades ago when I was 2-stroking, I religiously premixed 1 oz. of Sea Foam per 2.5 gal of fuel, plus I added Marvel Mystery oil as directed. I did this to prevent the build up from happening in the 1st place. It had the added benefits of getting any water out of system & stabilizing the fuel if it sat for long periods. Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 447 Follies --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" |Please, this | question is directed to Beauford only. | | | Ed ( in Hou. ) Morning Ed/Gang: Promise I won't get anything started, but was wondering why you did not sent your question to Beauford bc? I start my mornings with three cups of coffee, strong coffee. First cup I pour a shot of Seafoam. My rings have not been stuck since I started this procedure shortly after joining the Kolb List in Spring 1998! ;-) john h MKIII/912ULS (packing for flight to OSH, the long way and six days flying to get there) DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:40 AM PST US From: "Bruce n' Kathy" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ultrastars --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" I have been reading this list for the last few years (lurking) I currently fly trike, and PPC and am waiting patiently on flying my fixed wings, Training is the big issue for me, only got 16 hrs so far. I want to be comfortable. Anyway, I have heard the same thing over and over about people selling there Ultrastar's and missing them, that is why I purchased one as my first ultralight, but still havent flown.. Couldnt get enough training locally. Anyway last year I had a chance to pick up a spare US. and did. again I hear how people miss their U.S.s at fathers day fly in I heard it again. I learned a lot about them through this list and fellow owners. This year I got a better idea for engine mounting, while at the Fathers day fly in Wellsville PA. I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear drive Idea. I believe I found the right ultralight because I have never heard any other ultralight including trikes and ppcs being missed as much as the Ultrastar. I have only heard of one quicksilver being missed, a 2 place mxl double surface with a 503 Again I will watch the list. And lurk. Gotta go work on my friends Lazair with it dual JPX 22 hp engines and Delloroto carbs. Anyone ever work on them? Could use a little more info on tuning carbs, the manual doesnt quite get it all. -- Bruce Come and visit us at http://www.usua4.org Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:09 AM PST US From: "Beauford" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 447 Follies - Seafoam --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" Ed... No... I was not using Seafoam or any other additive in the gas mix... I was under the impression that none was required....and I still believe that to be the case if the engine is set up and operated properly. I intend to do some more fiddling with the mixture and the prop loading to see if I can work out a better balance... a little leaner and a little more load. As already indicated in my note to John, I believe I have been running it hard enough that it should have been able to scavenge properly, so I think the trouble is in mixture and prop. It probably does not help that paraffin base oils like the Pennzoil air cooled will coke at a relatively low temperature when compared against the synthetics. I think my 447 runs a tad hot anyway, but for one reason or another, I have obviously exceeded the temp limits of the oil... that stuff was about two-thirds of the way to becoming diamonds... had a tough time getting it off. By the way, I used Seafoam as the solvent to help remove the crud. Luckily, global warming had set in in Manatee County, so at no time during my 7 hours up a ladder did my fingers become too numb with cold to hold a wrench... Baked Beauford FF #076 Brandon FL Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > > > I dont want to get anything started but were you using Seafoam > treatment > > > Ed ( in Hou. ) > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:31 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: Re: new member with questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL << Would like all the info. i could get on trailering Kolb , as I would like to take in back and forth between Michigan and Florida ... >>> Hi, Jim - Welcome to the List Although you'll find this in the Archives, a short summary of the general opinion on trailering a Kolb is: You'll want to support the tailboom with something more robust than the stock Kolb wing supports. For extended trailering, the stock wing support setup on our Kolbs just don't hold up. Several members have devised their own tail dollies for this purpose. Here is one idea: There are several others, as well. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil.02.12.2005/ Other than that, the Kolb's quick wing fold design is woderful for easy, one-person setup/takedown. Good luck ... you made the right decision is choosing a Kolb! Dennis Kirby Mark-3 in New Mexico ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:46 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ultrastars --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear drive Idea what is this??? did i miss something ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:15 PM PST US From: JUDD LYNN Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar landing gear upgrade --> Kolb-List message posted by: JUDD LYNN I have a firestar that was built in 1994. It has the smaller landing gear legs. I believe they are 1 1/8" in diameter. In deciding to change them, the factory asked if I wanted to replace them with the heavier 1 1/4" diameter legs. These are not only stiffer, but a bit longer, which I was told gives the plane more stability on the ground. It looks like the larger ones will fit into the shafts in the fuselage cage, since the old [smaller] ones had a sleeve around them to make up for the difference in diameter. But I'm wondering if the additional height is a problem. With the extra height at the front of the plane, but unchanged height at the tailwheel, the angle of attack is greater, right? Is this a problem, or an advantage? And what if I want to put on tundra tires? This will make the front even taller. Thanks for any advice. Judd Lynn Firestar II JuddLynn@sbcglobal.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:48 PM PST US From: "Steve Garvelink" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ultrastars --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" For anyone that is interested they have a reduction drive,(belt) that will fit a cuyuna and others and has the ring gear and bosch starter mount. It will make an us with electric start. REDUCTION DRIVE, BELT REDRIVE . AVAILABLE FOR SALE OR TRADE . This is a Brand New , never installed on anything Reduction drive , or redrive if you like. This redrive can be used on many snowmobile or so called aircraft engines including Rotax Kawasaki Chaparral Zenoah Suzuki Yamaha and others used for aircraft , Powered Parachutes or Trikes. These redrives have been installed on engines up to 97 horsepower and work quite well , There are two ratios available 2.58 to 1 and 2 to 1 . The redrive includes only what is in the picture , nothing else , no prop, engine, radiator or exhaust . The list price of this redrive is $ 988. Give me a call , make an offer over $ 500. please, only a couple left, Please note , this redrive will not just bolt onto all engines listed above , in many cases it will take some type of machining of some sort or drilling holes in different locations .I will be happy to answer any questions or help in any way i can. Many other redrives are also available , try me , My 26 th year. . Contact Steve Beatty - AIRSCREW PERFORMANCE located Glendale, AZ USA . Telephone: 623-842-3902 . Posted July 12, 2005 . Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This Ad to a Friend . Send a Message -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wehba Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ultrastars --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear drive Idea what is this??? did i miss something ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:48 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new member with questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com Thanks Rick Neilsen, will contact you, I live close to you, just West of Eaton Rapids about 5 miles. Will try and get over Friday to see the Kolbs. thanks again. Jim Swan ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:44 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: new member with questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com Hello Dennis, Thanks for the info on trailering. will check out your site. I have gone thru the archives and got some good information there on trailers. Will now decide which model Kolb and engine size. Will soon start looking at some that are for sale. I intend to take my time finding one that appeals to me, but it sure is diffucult to not dive in and get started. At my age of 74 I am not sure it is wise to procastanate, thanks again to you and the others that have shared information... Jim Swan in Michigan ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:07 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: new member with questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: Arksey@aol.com Hello again Dennis, Yes I did see pictures of the trailering dolly you built. Looked at it again and it looks very good. Will want to talk with you about it in detail when i get a Kolb purchased. thanks Jim Swan ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:27 PM PST US From: Peter Bosch Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK3 High stall speed problem --> Kolb-List message posted by: Peter Bosch Thanx guys for all the feedback ( impressed) It is the Kolb Mark 111 (Classic?) Manufactured in 1993 The customer bought it without any plans so I do not have any ref to check if the wingspan is even standard, what the angle of incidence should be or even the up/downthrust of the engine. I have received a responce from the factory and will keep you all posted. She has a centre section.Fully enclosed cabin with doors. I have not checked the CG myself. High speed landings and long runs (thnx David) Good point Richard, but.. assuming any aircraft stalling at any speed, when I am in the flare and the tail touches down it stops my elevator working and slams the front wheels into the ground. (thnx Robert) I get the feeling I would have loved longer legs. To solve this I reverted to my favorite tailwheel landings: the wheely. I have not calibrated his ASI but have checked it against a GPS (not accurate method) but I will be installing my Skydat in his plane and calibrate the instalation with seperate static port. One gets used to speeds in other aircraft and stops looking at airspeeds on landings but this specific plane made me look! :~) I have found another mk3C owner closeby in South Africa. He is going to come and evaluate her for me. I know this specific plane is anti-Kolb specs and I will get to the root of the problem and turn her into a proper Kolb ! Thans again for the amazing feedback from this group. Regards, Peter do not archive -- Peter Bosch Ultralight Marketing Web: http://www.ulm.co.za E-mail: cheeky@acenet.co.za Po Box 264473. Three Rivers. 1935. South Africa. Tel: +27 (0)83 753-4678 Fax: +27 (0)16 933-6540 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:25 PM PST US From: Terry Frantz Subject: Kolb-List: UltraStar --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz Have a friend that has an UltraStar for sale. Flyable, but needs some attention to the covering. Has a 2SI engine with 190 hr.'s on it, air frame has 1400+TT, BRS, strobe, nose pod, tundra tires, 3 blade IVO prop, 2SI belt drive, Airspeed, VSI, CHT, EHT and Tack. Was asking $4,500. His name is Wilmer Zimmerman, lives in Lancaster County, PA and his phone is 717-354-9351. Terry - Firefly #95 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:01 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Kiev Hot Prop vs Ivo Prop --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike A while back I mentioned that I was going to get the loan of a new Kiev Hot Prop to compare with the Ivo Prop. Today we got 'r done. Here is the data, forgive the long post. The aircraft is a new FSII with a Rotax 582, E gearbox, 3:1 ratio. Intake silencer, after muffler. Ivoprop is 68" two blade. Hot Prop is 67" three blade. Static max rpm Ivo 6150 Kiev 6130 (after an hour of adjusting) Full throttle climbout at 50 mph: Ivo unloaded to 6200-6230, Kiev unloaded to 6250 RPM 4600 Ivo 54 mph Kiev 50 mph 4800 Ivo 55 Kiev 52 5000 Ivo 60 Kiev 55 5200 Ivo 65 Kiev 62 5400 Ivo 69 Kiev 65 5600 Ivo 73 Kiev 70 5800 Ivo 77 Kiev 74 6000 Ivo 80 Kiev 78 Flying level at 5400 rpm and around 65-70, pulled up into a slight climb, did not adjust throttle, the Ivo loaded the engine down to 4950, the Kiev loaded it to 4750. The Kiev seemed to be more sensitive to changes in attitude and angle of attack variations resulting in varied rpm's due to prop loading. The Ivo was less sensitive, the rpm's stayed more constant. The Kiev seemed to accelerate harder from a standstill than the Ivo, and at full throttle climbout, the Kiev gave a consistent 1,000'/minute climb. The Ivo climbed at between 800-1,000'/minute. The Kiev seemed better at climbout, however, that might be a function of having three blades, and therefore a finer pitch for each blade, which would turn it into a climb prop anyway. I have found that three blade Ivo's accelerate and climb better than two blade Ivo's so a two blade Ivo vs a three blade Kiev might be an apples and oranges comparison. Noise- Takeoff - The Kiev was quieter when standing beside the runway and listening to a full power takeoff and climbout. At high power settings, the Ivo could still be heard at a greater distance from the field than the Kiev. Flyby- standing by the runway, listening to a fly over - At cruise power settings around 5400 rpm or greater, the Kiev is quieter. At power settings below 5000, the Ivo is quieter. In the cockpit - The Kiev is just very slightly quieter, but now is a good time to discuss a noticeable difference in the sound characteristics between the two props. The Kiev is a more high-pitched droner/whiner noise and the Ivo two blade is a growler. (I have used Ivo three blades, and they tend to be droner/whiners too, this probably gets back to the difference between two/three blade props) In the cockpit there is only the smallest difference in the sound volume, however the Kiev drone would get very annoying after a while, it would not be a pleasant cross country prop. The Ivo has a more bass note, sort of like a full size aircraft prop, and is less annoying. A good ANR headset would probably make this a moot point. Disclaimer - The Ivo was used with a 2' prop hub extension, the Kiev was not, (we didn't have any prop bolts the right length) so this might be an unfair comparison. At low and cruise power setting fly-bys, the Ivo 2-blade makes the Rotax 2-stroke sound much like a 4 stroke, whereas the Kiev makes it sound very "Ultralighty/2-stroke, very much the traditional 2 stroke noise." However, this is probably more a characteristic of a two blade prop versus a three blade prop rather than the design of the props themselves. (in my opinion) The Ivo two blade is a smooth running prop, but the Kiev is notably smoother. A very smooth prop. My conclusions? The Kiev has a good noise reduction to the neighborhood, but I would not want to fly with it unless I got an ANR headset. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses, irrespective of the possible 2 blade/3 blade inequities. The Ivo is WAY easier to adjust. The Kiev is tedious to adjust. The Ivo gives good performance for the money. Unless you have a neighbor situation, I would find it hard to justify spending twice as much for a Kiev. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:38 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK3 High stall speed problem/Tail Wheel First Landings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | assuming any aircraft stalling at any speed, when I am in the flare and the tail touches | down it stops my elevator working and slams the front wheels into the ground. (thnx Robert) | I get the feeling I would have loved longer legs. | To solve this I reverted to my favorite tailwheel landings: the wheely. Peter/Gang: Homer Kolb designed the MKIII to land and take off in a level attitude. That is why you are hitting the tail wheel first when you try to flare it to land. Longer gear legs do not help much on the MKIII because the gear leg sockets are such a flat angle. We redesigned the main gear on my MKIII and she lands in a proper three point stance. john h ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:04 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar landing gear upgrade --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" ----- Original Message ----- From: "JUDD LYNN" Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar landing gear upgrade . But I'm wondering if the additional height is a problem. With the extra height at the front of the plane, but unchanged height at the tailwheel, the angle of attack is greater, right? Is this a problem, or an advantage? And what if I want to put on tundra tires? This will make the front even taller. Thanks for any advice. > Hi, I also have an earlier version of the Firestar II and have changed over to the heavier legs. I highly recommend them, you will not be sorry. I found nothing but positive results with mine. Larry, Oregon do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:08 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ultrastars --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" \> > I am going to leave one of mine stock and modify the other to the gear > drive Idea > > what is this??? did i miss something >\ YEP.