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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar (bryan green)
2. 04:26 AM - Good day everyone! (Benny Bee)
3. 06:07 AM - Need dual time in Ultralight (jdmurr@juno.com)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: transporting Firefly (PATRICK LADD)
5. 06:25 AM - Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar (PATRICK LADD)
6. 07:03 AM - MkIII-- Transport-- Northern MN to East PA (Tom O'Hara)
7. 07:16 AM - Re: Good day everyone! (Jerry Curtin)
8. 07:18 AM - Re: Need dual time in Ultralight (Chuck Stonex)
9. 07:27 AM - Re: transporting Firefly (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 09:11 AM - Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar (Steve Kroll)
11. 01:39 PM - Re: Slingshot cage? (Jeremy Casey)
12. 01:44 PM - Slingshot cage? (NOW OFF TOPIC) (Jeremy Casey)
13. 02:20 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Benny Bee)
14. 04:04 PM - Re: another pusher (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
15. 04:06 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (robert bean)
16. 05:16 PM - Re: Slingshot cage? (Larry Bourne)
17. 05:19 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Larry Bourne)
18. 05:22 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Larry Bourne)
19. 05:45 PM - Benny Bee (Herb Gayheart)
20. 06:49 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Benny Bee)
21. 07:07 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Denny Rowe)
22. 07:53 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Larry Bourne)
23. 08:58 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (bryan green)
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| Subject: | Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hi John, Get some dual in a pusher type ultralight trainer if at all
possible or you will probably bend your Kolb. The ultralights bleed off
airspeed fast and have a much steeper angle of descent then a 150. As
for the conventional gear just do a lot of ground handling until you get
comfortable with high speed taxi. With the 152 you can land a little
side ways it will chirp some and straighten out, but with the tail wheel
you need to be pointed in the direction you want to go when the wheels
hit the runway. JMHO
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS
jdmurr@juno.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
>
>I have just purchased a Firestar with a 503 in it. It was delivered this weekend
and I taxied it around for a bit. My question is what is the best way to transition
from a C-152 to the Firestar. Do I actually need lessons, or just need
to pay attention to certain things to be ok. Any suggestions would be helpful
including links on transitioning from GA to ultralights. Thanks.
>
>
>John Murr
>
>
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| Subject: | Good day everyone! |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Hello folks.
I am a new member here.This is my first post.
I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT LIST!
I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for an
ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering if
any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
BB
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| Subject: | Need dual time in Ultralight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
Thank you to all of you with the good advice. Smoketown has a Champ. I'm going
to see if I can get some time in it.
Does any one know anyone near Lancaster, PA that I can get dual time with in an
Ultralight? Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: transporting Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
a rough diagram of one
solution for securing a FF inside a trailer for transport. >>
Hi,
if an adaptation would work for a 3 Extra may I have a copy please.
Has anyone worked out a numbered routine for rigging/derigging an Extra
single handed ?
I may have to keep my plane folded until I get my hangar sorted out and the
Challenger sold.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
..good grief - just push it out, crank it up and yank that stick back
> you'll be fine.>>
DON`T YOU BELIIIEEEVVE ITTTT..........!!!!
Get some training! A couple of hours will probably sort you out.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | MkIII-- Transport-- Northern MN to East PA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
Earlier this summer I transported (and bought) Neitzel's MKIII from
Rhinelander, WI to Allentown, PA-- 1287mi.
Unloaded with no dents scratches or hanger rash.
Basically we took 28' U-Haul and put joists across the truck in 3 places,
slung the wings with 24" carpet in three places, ran a 2x6 on top of joists
on each side, put 1" soft foam between wings and carpet, put 4" foam between
wing/carpet and the sides of the truck. We marked the carpet with marker so
that we could tell if the carpet was stretching or tearing under the load
blocks that we used to anchor the carpet to the stringers. After six hours
of travel I was concerned that the carpet was going to rip so I ran 1" nylon
strapping on the outside of the carpet for insurance. This wasn't needed
but it made me feel better!! At the wing root we made alum. Bracket that we
nailed into a wooden chock for the wheels. This kept the wings from moving
front or back.
The fuselage went in nose first into a T type chock that held the mains on
both f/b sides. #12 wire was then wrapped over the tires several times to
insure that they did not slip. The T then ran to a boom support that kept
the tail wheel 2" off the trailer floor.
I have not posted pics to Matronic before and am leaving for vac. shortly.
If you want I will just email you the pics.
Send request to tohara@alphagraphics.com
Status of the Bird: Sitting wingless in front of a huge runway snowblower
waiting for hangers to be completed. Dick Neitzel (builder) is coming out
after he gets finished as volunteer at OSH and we plan to fly 8/13. Can't
wait to get in the air!! We may go down to Homer's so that Dick can see all
of his toys.
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you live? I am building a
Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second one. I and everyone else on
this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
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From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello folks.
> I am a new member here.This is my first post.
> I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT LIST!
>
>
> I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for an
> ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering if
> any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
>
> BB
>
>
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| Subject: | Need dual time in Ultralight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex@msn.com>
I'm still trying to find some dual time in a M-III in the Des Moines or
central Iowa area. I hope to buy the M-III in a few days and would like to
fly with someone who has experiance in one. If any one can help I would
appreciate it.
Chuck S
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
Thank you to all of you with the good advice. Smoketown has a Champ. I'm
going to see if I can get some time in it.
Does any one know anyone near Lancaster, PA that I can get dual time with in
an Ultralight? Thanks!
Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!
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| Subject: | Re: transporting Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Pat,
By rigging I'm assuming you mean preparing for flight instead of
initially rigging the control lines and this post is with that in mind. I
load and unload and set up my MK III Classic for flight by myself. I winch
the plane into the trailer and the winch gets its power from a 12VDC car
battery which is powered by a $12 solar panel mounted on top of the
trailer - and it works fine as long as it's kept clean. I have some
"chocks" permanently bolted to the trailer floor so that the plane always
goes to the proper location. Tie downs are fore and aft of each chock and I
tie it down with ratcheting straps to the axles. Another strap goes from
the top of the trailer to the wing strut attach fittings and that's how I
take the weight off the wing attachment tubes under the horizontal
stabilizer (see archives for pics of this set up). I take up the slack on
the winch and that's all I do to secure the plane in the trailer.
Do not let the plane ride in the trailer on the tail wheel. I have a
cradle rigged up that goes under the boom tube and holds the wheel about an
inch off the floor. It works for me but Eric Weaver has a better rig that
is made of irrigation pipe fittings and a really cool wheel. In any case,
you've got to figure a way to do this and there are any number of great
ideas in the archives.
As far as setting it up for flight, it is a fairly easy one-man job but
you've got to have a stand to hold the wing. With my Firestar, I could just
let the wing tip lay on a mat on the ground and get the pins in but I don't
think that'sll work with the MK III. The only scary part is that it can be
a bit scary if there is any kind of wind because there comes a point when
the wing is in a pretty precarious position and not pinned in and a gust
could blow it off the stand.
Now what I've told you is for the MK III Classic, but I'd guess it all
applies to the Xtra. I assemble my plane every time I fly and tow it over
some pretty rough roads and this works pretty well. My biggest problem was
getting the weight of the wings off of the support tubes, but once that was
figured out, no more problems. I would estimate that I've assembled the
plane somewhere between 50 - 75 times. Hope this helps.
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: transporting Firefly
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> a rough diagram of one
> solution for securing a FF inside a trailer for transport. >>
>
> Hi,
> if an adaptation would work for a 3 Extra may I have a copy please.
>
> Has anyone worked out a numbered routine for rigging/derigging an Extra
> single handed ?
> I may have to keep my plane folded until I get my hangar sorted out and
> the
> Challenger sold.
>
> Pat
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transitioning from C-152 to Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
<<<<<what is the best way to transition
from a C-152 to the Firestar. Do I actually need lessons, or just need
to pay attention to certain things to be ok. Any suggestions would be >>>>>
Hi John,
I had no trouble transitioning from GA to my Mk2 but I did get a little time in
a UL trainer.....in my case, a two seat Quicksilver. The biggest difference
to me was how fast the UL loses energy and a much lighter feel with the controls.
It's not difficult...just different.
Get a couple of hours in a UL trainer and you should be good to go. If you could
find somebody with a Mk3 to train in...so much the better to give you the taildragger
feel but I don't think you'll have much trouble with that. The Kolbs
are the easiest taildragggers I've flown by far.
Prior to the first flight around the patch, I did a bunch of crow-hops to get
the feel of it. This let me feel the airplane's landing characteristics without
having to leave the proximity of the runway. Be ready to ease off on the trottle
though as once the Kolbs lift off, they'll climb in a hurry if you let
them. Back off on the throttle just enough to keep flying without climbing.
This way you can fly maybe half the length of the runway before settling back
on. Keep it low and pay attention to airspeed. I found the crow hops to be a
real confidence builder.
When you're ready for the first time around the patch, I would suggest 55mph
on approach right down to the flare, hold it level and let the airplane settle
to a wheel landing and then just keep it straight till the tail comes down(a
very short time). I would also suggest a grass field for your first practice
sessions. They are more forgiving then pavement and generally wider too. I've
got 3600 feet by 200 feet wide and it was ideal.
The only other thing to watch that I can think of is this: when you give the airplane
throttle for takeoff, the high thrust position of the pusher config wants
to push the nose down. You can either gradually open the throttle to lessen
this tendency or, you can hold a little up elevator to counteract this tendency
till the airplane gets a little speed. The same thing is true in reverse.....
when you back off the throttle in flight, the nose wants to come up so
be ready to apply some forward stick to keep the nose level and your airspeed
where you want it.
Have fun. You're going to love your new toy:-)
Steve
Mk2 503
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
That tale reminds me of the Sadler Vampire from wayyy back when.
Do not archive
Denny Rowe
<snip>
Yes, indeed...another VERY interesting design from the past. Is a
company in Australia that produces a 2 seat derivative of it.
Jeremy
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| Subject: | Slingshot cage? (NOW OFF TOPIC) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
The mini-master is neat, but I'm guessing it didn't exactly make it into
the
mainstream, since that's an old magazine, and I've never heard of it
before
today. I always thought that a centerline twin using 2-strokes made
perfect
sense. For all practical purposes, Rotax 2 strokes are quite reliable
for
hundreds of hours if taken care of. The problem is when they eventually
unpredictably seize. Having two, and being able to fly on one, makes
this
less of a problem.
Cheers,
Rusty (won't rule out trying to put two single rotors on it)
Do not archive
<snip>
From what I heard, the fellow that designed/built it with intent to
manufacture, realized that the only way to make a small fortune in
aviation, is to start with a LARGE fortune, and walked away from it...
Very interesting bird purely on design merit...never mind what ever
became of it. And I looked up one of the pilot reports way back when,
and remembered the test pilot had nothing but praise...evidently flew
pretty good ;-/
Jeremy Casey
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Kolbers,Jerry!
I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in to
this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
lessons from BFI.
I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
ultrastar but every one i found was either too far or
too much,So i am thinking seriously about building it
from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved but i
was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i happen
to have some free time i think it will be wise for me
to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am a
welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
scratch,using just a plans??
Thanks,
BB
--- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
> <jcurtin@cableone.net>
>
> Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
> live? I am building a
> Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second one.
> I and everyone else on
> this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
> FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
>
contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
> <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hello folks.
> > I am a new member here.This is my first post.
> > I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
> LIST!
> >
> >
> > I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for
> an
> > ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering
> if
> > any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
> >
> > BB
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: another pusher |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
In a message dated 7/26/2005 10:11:53 PM Central Standard Time,
slyck@frontiernet.net writes:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> While we're on interesting old pushers......
> http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Shumaker/4265.htm
> Unfold it and pump it up
.....ok, did anybody ever try filling that thing with helium instead of air?
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Benny, I too welcome you to the Kolb list. BUT! Yer handle pard?
I got seniority to that BB signoff! What we gonna do about it?
You're much too far to have an armwrestling contest.
My reason for using it is pure laziness, but if you have a better
one I can relinquish.
Bob Bean, MkIII, suzuki, 20 hrs of crashin' & bashin' fun
do not archive
On 27, Jul 2005, at 5:20 PM, Benny Bee wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Kolbers,Jerry!
> I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in to
> this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
> lessons from BFI.
> I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
> ultrastar but every one i found was either too far or
> too much,So i am thinking seriously about building it
> from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved but i
> was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i happen
> to have some free time i think it will be wise for me
> to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am a
> welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
> Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
> scratch,using just a plans??
>
> Thanks,
> BB
> --- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
>> <jcurtin@cableone.net>
>>
>> Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
>> live? I am building a
>> Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second one.
>> I and everyone else on
>> this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
>> FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
>>
> contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
>> <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Hello folks.
>>> I am a new member here.This is my first post.
>>> I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
>> LIST!
>>>
>>>
>>> I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for
>> an
>>> ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering
>> if
>>> any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
>>>
>>> BB
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slingshot cage? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I saw a Sadler Vampire at Golden West a few years ago, and was fascinated by
it. What's the URL for the Aussie outfit ?? Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Slingshot cage?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
>
> That tale reminds me of the Sadler Vampire from wayyy back when.
> Do not archive
>
> Denny Rowe
>
>
> <snip>
>
> Yes, indeed...another VERY interesting design from the past. Is a
> company in Australia that produces a 2 seat derivative of it.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Don't give an inch, Bob. Damn the torpedoes...........! ! ! :-)
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Benny, I too welcome you to the Kolb list. BUT! Yer handle pard?
> I got seniority to that BB signoff! What we gonna do about it?
> You're much too far to have an armwrestling contest.
> My reason for using it is pure laziness, but if you have a better
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
BB........?? That's Bob Bean, ain't it ?? LOL Benny, if you've
got the fabricating skills, and so on, it's very do-able, but 400 hours
sounds extremely optimistic to me. Seems like you should take the mfg'ers
recommendation, double it and add the original amount just to be sure.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Kolbers,Jerry!
> I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in to
> this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
> lessons from BFI.
> I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
> ultrastar but every one i found was either too far or
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Benny
Did not get a chance to take a pic of the Ultrastar airframe today.
Had to replace a water heater and rebuild the right gear on my N3 pup.
Tomorrow afternoon for sure. Herb
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
OKIE!
You have BB.I normally go by Mitty.So bb was because
of laziness :)
Mitty from now and on.
do not archive
--- robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean
> <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Benny, I too welcome you to the Kolb list. BUT!
> Yer handle pard?
> I got seniority to that BB signoff! What we gonna
> do about it?
> You're much too far to have an armwrestling contest.
> My reason for using it is pure laziness, but if you
> have a better
> one I can relinquish.
> Bob Bean, MkIII, suzuki, 20 hrs of crashin' &
> bashin' fun
> do not archive
> On 27, Jul 2005, at 5:20 PM, Benny Bee wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
> <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > Kolbers,Jerry!
> > I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting
> in to
> > this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
> > lessons from BFI.
> > I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
> > ultrastar but every one i found was either too far
> or
> > too much,So i am thinking seriously about building
> it
> > from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved
> but i
> > was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i
> happen
> > to have some free time i think it will be wise for
> me
> > to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am
> a
> > welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
> > Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
> > scratch,using just a plans??
> >
> > Thanks,
> > BB
> > --- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
> >> <jcurtin@cableone.net>
> >>
> >> Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
> >> live? I am building a
> >> Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second
> one.
> >> I and everyone else on
> >> this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
> >> FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
> >>
> >
>
contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
> >> Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> >>
> >>
> >>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
> >> <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hello folks.
> >>> I am a new member here.This is my first post.
> >>> I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
> >> LIST!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking
> for
> >> an
> >>> ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was
> wondering
> >> if
> >>> any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
> >>>
> >>> BB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> browse
> >> Subscriptions page,
> >> FAQ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
. Seems like you should take the mfg'ers
> recommendation, double it and add the original amount just to be sure.
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
Lar,
Ahh never mind. :-)
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Don't be pickin' on me now, dammit. The exception proves the rule, right ??
:-) Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>
> . Seems like you should take the mfg'ers
>> recommendation, double it and add the original amount just to be sure.
>> Lar. Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>
> Lar,
> Ahh never mind. :-)
>
> Denny Rowe
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hi Benny, I don't think you can get detailed enough plans to build an
Ultrastar. You would come out much cheaper and be flying a lot sooner to
just buy a used Ultrastar from some one. There are several on
Barnstormers.com at a very reasonable price just search for Kolb.
Building is very seldom the cheapest way to get a plane.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS
Benny Bee wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Kolbers,Jerry!
>I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in to
>this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
>lessons from BFI.
>I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
>ultrastar but every one i found was either too far or
>too much,So i am thinking seriously about building it
>from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved but i
>was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i happen
>to have some free time i think it will be wise for me
>to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am a
>welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
>Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
>scratch,using just a plans??
>
>Thanks,
>BB
>--- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
>><jcurtin@cableone.net>
>>
>>Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
>>live? I am building a
>>Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second one.
>>I and everyone else on
>>this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
>>FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
>>
>>
>>
>contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
>
>
>>Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
>>>
>>>
>><benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>>>Hello folks.
>>>I am a new member here.This is my first post.
>>>I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
>>>
>>>
>>LIST!
>>
>>
>>>I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for
>>>
>>>
>>an
>>
>>
>>>ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering
>>>
>>>
>>if
>>
>>
>>>any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
>>>
>>>BB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>browse
>>Subscriptions page,
>>FAQ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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