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1. 02:23 AM - Re: transporting Firefly (PATRICK LADD)
2. 04:00 AM - TNK Oshkosh (Bob and Jenn B)
3. 04:04 AM - Re: EAA Sport Pilot/MV 2005 (PATRICK LADD)
4. 05:43 AM - Monument Valley Kolb Flyin (Rex Rodebush)
5. 07:39 AM - Firestar at EAA (Rex Rodebush)
6. 07:43 AM - Kolb Build times (owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com)
7. 08:05 AM - Re: transporting Firefly (woody)
8. 08:17 AM - Re: (woody)
9. 08:48 AM - III vs. Kolbra (bryan green)
10. 10:37 AM - Re: III vs. Kolbra (John Hauck)
11. 10:41 AM - Re: (PATRICK LADD)
12. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: (Richard Pike)
13. 11:43 AM - Re: Good day everyone! (Charlie England)
14. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: (robert bean)
15. 03:48 PM - Re: TNK Oshkosh (Kolbdriver)
16. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: (Beauford)
17. 04:54 PM - kolb (b young)
18. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: (Benny Bee)
19. 05:30 PM - Re: Good day everyone! (Benny Bee)
20. 05:35 PM - Alternative engines... (Benny Bee)
21. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: (robert bean)
22. 06:54 PM - Re: Alternative engines... (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
23. 07:03 PM - Re: Alternative engines... (Richard Pike)
24. 07:10 PM - Re: Alternative engines... (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
25. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: (Richard Pike)
26. 07:44 PM - Re: Alternative engines... (Richard Pike)
27. 07:57 PM - Re: kolb (bryan green)
28. 08:04 PM - Group for ultralights sale or wanted (Benny Bee)
29. 11:55 PM - Re: Alternative engines... (jerb)
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| Subject: | Re: transporting Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
By rigging I'm assuming you mean preparing for flight >>
Hi Dave,
Quite correct. Thanks for the info
As an ex glider pilot I am well up on wing stands. Glider wings tend to be a
lot heavier than those on a Kolb and even with a strong and willing crew a
stand is a must.
I had hoped that it would be possible to swing the wing into position with
the tip on the ground and the strut attached at the fuselage end, then get
your back under the wing and lift it until the other end of the strut can be
fixed. Anyone do it that way?
Incidentally to support and steer our gliders on the ground we usually made
a fibreglass gaiter about two feet long which clamped around the fuselage at
the tail. This had a large single castor bonded to the lower half of the
gaiter. The gaiter was hinged horizontally. The top half of the gaiter
closed with a couple of over centre latches.
The fibreglass gaiter was laid up to include a fairing around a few inches
of the bottom of the fin. This stopped it rotating around the fuselage.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
From what I hear, TNK's Firestar didn't fare too well while landing on a
road at Oshkosh. Haven't gooten any other details but no one hurt.
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Sport Pilot/MV 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Thanks John for the Sports pilots coverage.
Pat
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Kolb Flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
Time: 10:46:45 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Kolb Flyin/Sport Pilot
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
.....Hi Gang:
.....We made it thanks to the persistence of Rick Neilsen.
Yes, Thanks to Rick Neilsen and also all who contributed with their
comments and pictures. This is a great article and a major incentive to
get my plane done so I can have some fun too.
In regard to Dave Culver's question about Kolbs. I looked at many
different planes for about 12 years but always seemed to come back to a
Kolb. A good and proven design, strong and good at the type of flying I
like to do. An added bonus has been the support from the great group of
people building and flying Kolbs and also from the factory personnel.
Rex Rodebush
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com
<mailto:tabberdd@hotmail.com?subjectRe:%20TNK%20Oshkosh&replyto2005072
91100.j6TB0BqY010187@mail.matronics.com> >
From what I hear, TNK's Firestar didn't fare too well while landing on a
road at Oshkosh. Haven't gooten any other details but no one hurt.
Talked to Travis on Monday.
He said Dick had an engine seize. Landed on a road and bent a gear.
Apparently minor damage. Thankfully no one hurt.
Rex Rodebush
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--> Kolb-List message posted by:
Subject: Kolb Build times
(I changed the Subject line)
"woody" wrote: << I documented my build time for my Twinstar and it was
about 150 hrs using the kit. Mk111 is about the same, maybe a bit more. >>
Woody -
You appear to be a Kolb builder of exceptional talent! As a first-time
builder, it took me 540 hours to finish my Mark-3 Classic. Apparently,
experience helps to lower these build times.
Dennis Kirby
s/n 300, N93DK
New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: transporting Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> I had hoped that it would be possible to swing the wing into position with
> the tip on the ground and the strut attached at the fuselage end, then get
> your back under the wing and lift it until the other end of the strut can
be
> fixed. Anyone do it that way?
I always do it that way on my Twinstar and mk 3's. First rest the wing
tab on the pin that is still in the fuselage mount. Then remove the pin and
reinstall it through the wing mount then lift the wing up. Do not allow
anyone to help you lift the wing. It makes it harder to get the strut pin
into the wing. The rest of the set up is pretty straight forward.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I am a millwright by trade and fabrication and creative problem solving
are second nature to me. I kept a log book on the Twinstar construction and
amazed myself when I added up the hours.
>
> "woody" wrote: << I documented my build time for my Twinstar and it was
> about 150 hrs using the kit. Mk111 is about the same, maybe a bit more. >>
>
> Woody -
>
> You appear to be a Kolb builder of exceptional talent! As a first-time
> builder, it took me 540 hours to finish my Mark-3 Classic. Apparently,
> experience helps to lower these build times.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
John some time ago you said in a post that if you built another plane it
would be the Kolbra instead of the mark III extra. I have been wondering
why and thought you could expand on this some.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
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| Subject: | Re: III vs. Kolbra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
plane it
| would be the Kolbra instead of the mark III extra.
| Bryan Green
Hi Bryan G/Gang:
First of all, I like the way the Kolbra performs over the way the Xtra
performs. The Kolbra is a little faster in climb, cruise, and top
speed over the MKIIIc.
The down side to the Kolbra is cargo space, and places to put stuff I
use and like to have within hand's reach in the cockpit.
My MKIII suits me just fine. Was never impressed with changing a good
airplane for the sake of change, i.e., making the nose big, flat, and
long, so my feet would be pointed straight ahead, and making a center
mounted instrument panel on a pedestal.
I look more at functionality and less at style, and keeping up with
the Jones. My MKIII has been modified to suit me and my flying
tastes. It does a great job. That is why I am still flying it.
As for the MKIIIc, I wouldn't want to fly one in the stock
configuration either. No place to put your stuff, like tent, sleeping
bag, clothes, tools, chow, etc.
The Kolbra was being tossed around in my Brother Jim's and my head
many, many years prior to the initial Kolbra being designed and
produced. We would have built it way back then had we had the time
and the money.
john h
MKIII, 912ULS
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
woody" wrote: << I documented my build time for my Twinstar and it was
about 150 hrs using the kit. Mk111 is about the same.
Hi Woody,
you must work at a hell of a rate. It took 700 hours to build my Challenger,
including covering and painting and that is childsplay to put together
against the Extra.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Depends. It only took me three months to build my MKIII to the point of
being ready to cover. It took another 15 months to cover, wire and plumb.
But then my MKIII is day and night VFR legal, with Class B airspace legal
avionics, modified fuel system, modified gap seal to fit an out of
production ballistic parachute, etc. - delays, delays, delays. If Woody
kept his wiring and plumbing to the minimum necessary, I can see 150 hours
happening. I once saw a hyperactive neighbor completely fabric, paint and
finish all four wings of his Easy Riser biplane in a weekend.(!!!)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 06:38 PM 7/29/05 +0100, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
>woody" wrote: << I documented my build time for my Twinstar and it was
>about 150 hrs using the kit. Mk111 is about the same.
>
>Hi Woody,
>you must work at a hell of a rate. It took 700 hours to build my Challenger,
>including covering and painting and that is childsplay to put together
>against the Extra.
>
>Cheers
>
>Pat
>
>
>--
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Hi Benny,
Have you made contact with the Central MS Light Flyers club up at
Pisgah? Lots of great guys & a very nice 3000' strip near the HWY 25/HWY
43 intersection. Dee Gilliland is their president. Let me know if you
need his phone # or email address.
http://www.centralmississippilightflyers.com/
We don't have any ultralites over here at Slobovia Outernational, but if
you like bigger a/c too you're welcome to pay us a visit. We are on HWY
49 N about 10 miles north of Jackson. Email me off-list for my phone #.
Charlie
RV-4, RV-7 under construction
Benny Bee wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Kolbers,Jerry!
>I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in to
>this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
>lessons from BFI.
>I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
>ultrastar but every one i found was either too far or
>too much,So i am thinking seriously about building it
>from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved but i
>was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i happen
>to have some free time i think it will be wise for me
>to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am a
>welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
>Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
>scratch,using just a plans??
>
>Thanks,
>BB
>--- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
>><jcurtin@cableone.net>
>>
>>Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
>>live? I am building a
>>Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second one.
>>I and everyone else on
>>this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
>>FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
>>
>>
>>
>contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
>
>
>>Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
>>>
>>>
>><benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>>>Hello folks.
>>>I am a new member here.This is my first post.
>>>I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
>>>
>>>
>>LIST!
>>
>>
>>>I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for
>>>
>>>
>>an
>>
>>
>>>ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was wondering
>>>
>>>
>>if
>>
>>
>>>any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
>>>
>>>BB
>>>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I have a neighbor who has taken three years so far, and still not
finished, to
assemble a flightstar one. -with slip on wing covers yet. He's busy
running
between his various vacation homes. I waved to him down in his driveway
last evening.
-BB do not archive
On 29, Jul 2005, at 1:38 PM, PATRICK LADD wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> woody" wrote: << I documented my build time for my Twinstar and it was
> about 150 hrs using the kit. Mk111 is about the same.
>
> Hi Woody,
> you must work at a hell of a rate. It took 700 hours to build my
> Challenger,
> including covering and painting and that is childsplay to put together
> against the Extra.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
The only damage is one landing gear leg and a scratch on the wing.
Steven G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: TNK Oshkosh
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
>
> From what I hear, TNK's Firestar didn't fare too well while landing on a
> road at Oshkosh. Haven't gooten any other details but no one hurt.
>
> Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
That's nothing, Brother Bean... I once knew a guy building a Mark III who
had a set of tires literally dry rot off the airplane during the
so-called "construction" process....Actually, he used to be on this list
when he was still working on the Kolb....Got his kit when Reagan was in
office as I recall...He lives out in California someplace... in the
desert... Palmer Springs, or someplace like that... Goes by the name of
Harry... or Larry... or something... been so long since he started... can't
quite recall.... how long does aluminum last in the desert, anyway...? He
must be about ready for another set of tires by now.... :-)
Beauford
FF #076
Brandon, FL
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----- Original Message -----
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> I have a neighbor who has taken three years so far, and still not
> finished, to
> assemble a flightstar one. -with slip on wing covers yet.
> -BB do not archive
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>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
snip>>Building is very seldom the cheapest way to get a plane.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
but at least you know what you have
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
ROFLMAO!
--- Beauford <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford"
> <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> That's nothing, Brother Bean... I once knew a guy
> building a Mark III who
> had a set of tires literally dry rot off the
> airplane during the
> so-called "construction" process....Actually, he
> used to be on this list
> when he was still working on the Kolb....Got his kit
> when Reagan was in
> office as I recall...He lives out in California
> someplace... in the
> desert... Palmer Springs, or someplace like that...
> Goes by the name of
> Harry... or Larry... or something... been so long
> since he started... can't
> quite recall.... how long does aluminum last in the
> desert, anyway...? He
> must be about ready for another set of tires by
> now.... :-)
>
> Beauford
> FF #076
> Brandon, FL
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean
> <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> >
> > I have a neighbor who has taken three years so
> far, and still not
> > finished, to
> > assemble a flightstar one. -with slip on wing
> covers yet.
> > -BB do not archive
> :
> >
> >
> >
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Good day everyone! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Cahrlie,Thanks for the info.I am flying with one of
the BFI @ the club!I emailed you offline
Mitty
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--- Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England
> <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hi Benny,
>
> Have you made contact with the Central MS Light
> Flyers club up at
> Pisgah? Lots of great guys & a very nice 3000' strip
> near the HWY 25/HWY
> 43 intersection. Dee Gilliland is their president.
> Let me know if you
> need his phone # or email address.
> http://www.centralmississippilightflyers.com/
>
> We don't have any ultralites over here at Slobovia
> Outernational, but if
> you like bigger a/c too you're welcome to pay us a
> visit. We are on HWY
> 49 N about 10 miles north of Jackson. Email me
> off-list for my phone #.
>
> Charlie
> RV-4, RV-7 under construction
>
> Benny Bee wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
> <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >Kolbers,Jerry!
> >I thank y'all for warm welcome.I am just getting in
> to
> >this wonderful hobby and currently taking a flight
> >lessons from BFI.
> >I live in jackson,ms.I searched over the net for a
> >ultrastar but every one i found was either too far
> or
> >too much,So i am thinking seriously about building
> it
> >from plans.Don't know yet how much PIA involved but
> i
> >was told to count on around 400 hours. Since i
> happen
> >to have some free time i think it will be wise for
> me
> >to build ,even though it's gonna take a while.I am
> a
> >welder so fabricating part don't really scares me.
> >Did anybody on the list built any kolbs from
> >scratch,using just a plans??
> >
> >Thanks,
> >BB
> >--- Jerry Curtin <jcurtin@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin"
> >><jcurtin@cableone.net>
> >>
> >>Hello BB, Welcome to the list. Where in MS do you
> >>live? I am building a
> >>Firestar in Diamondhead. This will be my second
> one.
> >>I and everyone else on
> >>this list will be glad to help in any way. Jerry
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Benny Bee" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com 0.06
> >>FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From :
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com>
> >
> >
> >>Subject: Kolb-List: Good day everyone!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee
> >>>
> >>>
> >><benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello folks.
> >>>I am a new member here.This is my first post.
> >>>I found this list last night and WHAT A GREAT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>LIST!
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am thinking about getting me a Kolb.Looking for
> >>>
> >>>
> >>an
> >>
> >>
> >>>ultrastar.I live in mississippi so i was
> wondering
> >>>
> >>>
> >>if
> >>
> >>
> >>>any kolbers are close by who wly around here?
> >>>
> >>>BB
> >>>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Alternative engines... |
0.06 FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From": contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Good evening 'fellers'!
I was wondering if anyone of y'all flying a geo
conversions or any other alternatives on Kolb?
I know one guy at Fly Geo group has fitted a 3
cylinder geo conversion on one of the Kolbs.Can't
think of a model but he reported a positive results
back then...
Anyone?
Mitty.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Plane was named "papoose" or something similar. It's been
towed out to Davis-Monthan to nestle beneath the wing of a B-52.
-anonymus
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On 29, Jul 2005, at 7:54 PM, Beauford wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> That's nothing, Brother Bean... I once knew a guy building a Mark III
> who
> had a set of tires literally dry rot off the airplane during the
> so-called "construction" process....Actually, he used to be on this
> list
> when he was still working on the Kolb....Got his kit when Reagan was in
> office as I recall...He lives out in California someplace... in the
> desert... Palmer Springs, or someplace like that... Goes by the name
> of
> Harry... or Larry... or something... been so long since he started...
> can't
> quite recall.... how long does aluminum last in the desert, anyway...?
> He
> must be about ready for another set of tires by now.... :-)
>
> Beauford
> FF #076
> Brandon, FL
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>> I have a neighbor who has taken three years so far, and still not
>> finished, to
>> assemble a flightstar one. -with slip on wing covers yet.
>> -BB do not archive
> :
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative engines... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Has anyone on the list Got an extra IVO prop spacer plate they would sell ?
if so I am looking for one, or if You know how long it should be could you let
me know I can build one if I know what the length needs to be for an Original
Firestar and any other info I would need when I machine it out
I just purchased a new prop from a guy on ebay and I think he is trying to
shaft me on the spacer what is it really worth ?
almost ready to unvail the rebuild Original Firestar
Ellery Batchelder
Jr.
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative engines... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
When I bought mine, I paid IVO about $65 if I remember right.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 09:54 PM 7/29/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>Has anyone on the list Got an extra IVO prop spacer plate they would sell ?
>if so I am looking for one, or if You know how long it should be could you
>let
>me know I can build one if I know what the length needs to be for an Original
>Firestar and any other info I would need when I machine it out
>I just purchased a new prop from a guy on ebay and I think he is trying to
>shaft me on the spacer what is it really worth ?
>
>
> almost ready to unvail the rebuild Original Firestar
> Ellery Batchelder
>Jr.
>Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative engines... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
thanks Richard Yah I guessed right the guy wants double that for it is there
anything special about it and pics would help if you have any
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Well actually, he figured out that if he totally modified the landing gear,
wheels and brakes, then he could postpone committing aviation for a bit
longer, so he did, and sold his original gear. I bought his gear, tires and
brakes, and yes the tires are dry rotted. But that's OK, because now when I
go to fly-ins, people look at my tires and immediately assume I have the
first MKIII that Homer ever built...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:54 PM 7/29/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>That's nothing, Brother Bean... I once knew a guy building a Mark III who
>had a set of tires literally dry rot off the airplane during the
>so-called "construction" process....Actually, he used to be on this list
>when he was still working on the Kolb....Got his kit when Reagan was in
>office as I recall...He lives out in California someplace... in the
>desert... Palmer Springs, or someplace like that... Goes by the name of
>Harry... or Larry... or something... been so long since he started... can't
>quite recall.... how long does aluminum last in the desert, anyway...? He
>must be about ready for another set of tires by now.... :-)
>
>Beauford
>FF #076
>Brandon, FL
>Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative engines... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Here's some pics from the web page.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg2.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 10:09 PM 7/29/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>thanks Richard Yah I guessed right the guy wants double that for it is there
>anything special about it and pics would help if you have any
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
>Do Not Archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
That Sir would depend on the skills of the builder.
Bryan Green
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b young wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
>snip>>Building is very seldom the cheapest way to get a plane.
>Bryan Green Elgin SC
>
>
>but at least you know what you have
>
>boyd
>
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>
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| Subject: | Group for ultralights sale or wanted |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Benny Bee <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Hey folks.
I started a group a while ago for those who has
anything for sale related to ultralights or looking
for stuff related to ultralights.Check it out..
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ultralights_4_sale/
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative engines... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Find out what one really will cost you, call IVO - or Kolb. Richard's cost
sounds about right for a new spacer from what I recall from when I ordered
one.
jerb
At 10:09 PM 7/29/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>thanks Richard Yah I guessed right the guy wants double that for it is there
>anything special about it and pics would help if you have any
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
>Do Not Archive
>
>
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