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1. 04:30 AM - Re: Hot heads (Kirk Smith)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Rotax's Patented Hell (robert bean)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: Hot heads (Richard Pike)
4. 06:41 AM - Re: Hot heads (Beauford)
5. 06:58 AM - Re: Hot heads (Michael Sharp)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: Hot heads (N27SB@aol.com)
7. 07:40 AM - Electric Start System (jdmurr@juno.com)
8. 08:03 AM - Re: Hot heads (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 08:06 AM - Re: Hot Heads (Bill Vincent)
10. 08:20 AM - Re: Hot heads (Richard Pike)
11. 08:20 AM - Re: Hot heads (John Hauck)
12. 08:21 AM - EGT Probe for 912 (owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com)
13. 08:31 AM - Re: Hot heads (N27SB@aol.com)
14. 08:43 AM - Re: Hot heads (bryan green)
15. 11:32 AM - TNK Homecoming (N27SB@aol.com)
16. 12:45 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (N27SB@aol.com)
17. 01:00 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (jdmurr@juno.com)
18. 01:11 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (Rusty)
19. 02:35 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (N27SB@aol.com)
20. 02:36 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (John Hauck)
21. 06:58 PM - working (Paul Petty)
22. 07:02 PM - oops (Paul Petty)
23. 07:03 PM - regards (Paul Petty)
24. 07:23 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (Tenn Metfan)
25. 08:23 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming (John Hauck)
26. 09:54 PM - Re: Hot heads (Richard Pike)
27. 11:46 PM - Re: working (Larry Bourne)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Been a lot of discussion about the cylinder, rings, carb settings, mixture,
etc. What about the expansion chamber? It plays an important part in
evacuating the spent gases from the cylinder. Perhaps there is too much
reburning of hot gases. What if there's a problem in the expansion chamber?
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax's Patented Hell |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
-Good to hear the 503 is a decent 2 stroker, because I have 2 friends
about
to do the first start on their new ones. One had some past experience
with
one on a new Rans S9, seized on an early flight. This time around
another new
mill is on a Tiger Cub. The other guy is a total
2 stroke novice with one on his (perpetual build) Flightstar one.
Any definite no-nos in regard to break in on this engine that I could
casually
mention to them?
-BB do not archive
On 5, Aug 2005, at 1:40 AM, possums wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
>
>>
>> Am totally baffled as to why this engine is suddenly manufacturing
>> large amounts of carbon coke....
>>
>> Sure is exciting to be part of the big extended Rotax-owner family...
>>
>> Please excuse Beauford a moment... he must go to the latrine and
>> vomit again... He'll be right back after he cleans up a little
>> and makes himself a Martini...
>>
>> Beauford
>
>
> I hate to see that - I've been there with my old 447 - before it got
> water logged.
> But--I got still about 500 hours on it first. I did "decarbon" it
> several times.
> BTW - you can forget trying to keep the carbon off the top of the
> pistons.
> You can have it "spick & span" and the tops will carbon up in 10
> minutes
> of use - but "that carbon" comes and goes.
> Your rings seem to be the problem. ...like you didn't know that
> already.
> It seems you "had to decarbon" your engine since the rings were stuck -
> so I can't chastise you with the "don't fix it if it ain't broken"
> theory.
> After enduring the Cyuna back in the 80's,(which, by-the-way you
> could replace for $500)
> the 377 Rotax with the wrist pin bearing problems, the 447 Rotax,
> which was great after the
> other two.
> This thing just keeps on running like the Eveready Bunny.
> I know it weighs more, and isn't rated for a FireFly ---But,
> for the rest of the kids - I would like to say that I am amazed at the
> endurance of my "Dual Carb 503 CDI E gear box machine".
> Cost in 1999 was $4,300 wholesale including the gearbox, Muffler etc.
> 648 + hours. Ain't a bad deal - and it's still running. I think the
> 503 is the
> best they are going to do on a 2 cycle, 52 HP machine.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Yes, and yes, but Beauford's situation still has me scratching my head.
Something is still not right with that whole deal.
An engine normally is not nearly that critical, they are typically
much more tolerant. Normally you expect some variation, but
within a smaller and comfortable range. Normally you have to
be "coloring outside the lines" before things go really bad.
A healthy engine, stock jets, and a prop pitched for around 6250
on climb out ought to be a non-event in terms of drama.
Hey Beauford - what diameter prop and how many blades?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 11:31 PM 8/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/4/2005 11:46:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>
>In practice, this works out like this:
>More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
>Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
>Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
>More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
>
>
>Richard,
>
>
>Let me see if I have it right. During break-in of a new engine, stock
>jets. If the head temp gets to high, approx 80% throttle, Taking pitch
>out of
>the prop will lower cylinder head temps? I guess that means an engine
>propped
>for cruising would run with hotter heads than if it were propped for climb.
>Is that correct?
>
> Ed
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Richard: It is a 66" IVO two-blade.
This whole thing really has me way beyond baffled... I agree with you...
something is fundamentally wrong with this picture.
I'm going to order some new rings here in a minute, clean up the pistons and
bores, scrub off the carbon and
have another go at it next week. I have another Bing, a new one off an
8-hour 447 I bought for parts after an accident... I think I will
verify the jetting and metering rod in it and substitute it for the one on
"Dameon" before I run him
again... I'll also defer to you more experienced 2-strokers and lighten up
on the prop to turn
6200 or 6300 static vice the 6000 it was set for yesterday.
Wheee....!!!
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hot heads
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Yes, and yes, but Beauford's situation still has me scratching my head.
> Something is still not right with that whole deal.
> An engine normally is not nearly that critical, they are typically
> much more tolerant. Normally you expect some variation, but
> within a smaller and comfortable range. Normally you have to
> be "coloring outside the lines" before things go really bad.
>
> A healthy engine, stock jets, and a prop pitched for around 6250
> on climb out ought to be a non-event in terms of drama.
>
> Hey Beauford - what diameter prop and how many blades?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> At 11:31 PM 8/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>>
>>In a message dated 8/4/2005 11:46:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>>
>>In practice, this works out like this:
>>More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
>>Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
>>Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
>>More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
>>
>>
>>Richard,
>>
>>
>>Let me see if I have it right. During break-in of a new engine, stock
>>jets. If the head temp gets to high, approx 80% throttle, Taking pitch
>>out of
>>the prop will lower cylinder head temps? I guess that means an engine
>>propped
>>for cruising would run with hotter heads than if it were propped for
>>climb.
>>Is that correct?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Beauford,
I guess your celebration has become, Blockbuster and Chinese/Lebanese?
I'm sure those of us on the list could start a fund to help with the meal.
I pledge my two bits!
Good Luck with the engine as well as the Mrs.
M
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Beauford <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford"
Richard: It is a 66" IVO two-blade.
This whole thing really has me way beyond baffled... I agree with you...
something is fundamentally wrong with this picture.
I'm going to order some new rings here in a minute, clean up the pistons and
bores, scrub off the carbon and
have another go at it next week. I have another Bing, a new one off an
8-hour 447 I bought for parts after an accident... I think I will
verify the jetting and metering rod in it and substitute it for the one on
"Dameon" before I run him
again... I'll also defer to you more experienced 2-strokers and lighten up
on the prop to turn
6200 or 6300 static vice the 6000 it was set for yesterday.
Wheee....!!!
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hot heads
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
>
> Yes, and yes, but Beauford's situation still has me scratching my head.
> Something is still not right with that whole deal.
> An engine normally is not nearly that critical, they are typically
> much more tolerant. Normally you expect some variation, but
> within a smaller and comfortable range. Normally you have to
> be "coloring outside the lines" before things go really bad.
>
> A healthy engine, stock jets, and a prop pitched for around 6250
> on climb out ought to be a non-event in terms of drama.
>
> Hey Beauford - what diameter prop and how many blades?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> At 11:31 PM 8/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>>
>>In a message dated 8/4/2005 11:46:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>>
>>In practice, this works out like this:
>>More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
>>Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
>>Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
>>More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
>>
>>
>>Richard,
>>
>>
>>Let me see if I have it right. During break-in of a new engine, stock
>>jets. If the head temp gets to high, approx 80% throttle, Taking pitch
>>out of
>>the prop will lower cylinder head temps? I guess that means an engine
>>propped
>>for cruising would run with hotter heads than if it were propped for
>>climb.
>>Is that correct?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 8/5/05 7:57:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
richard@bcchapel.org writes:
> In practice, this works out like this:
> >More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
> >Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
> >Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
> >More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
> >
>
OK Guys, Now I am really confused, my 447 does not act that way. At my
current pitch setting if I am flying at 6000 rpm and I descend at that throttle
setting, My cht goes up. If I pull back and climb, cht goes down. That made
sense to me because those changes would lean and richen respectfully. What am
I
missing here/
Steve
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| Subject: | Electric Start System |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
I have a 503 DC/DI and would like to add an electric starter system. Could someone
please give me advise on acquiring (where) and installing all the needed
components for this installation including what battery to use? Thank you.
John Murr
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
I'm a 4 stroke only person but high temps normally say "I'm too lean". I
know you didn't change anything that you know of but if, when you do your
next break in run, the temps start getting high how about trying richer
jets. There are a bunch of things that can effect the mixture. Carb
problems, intake leaks, crank seals, rotary/reed valves, exhaust systems,
gaskets, etc all can change that mixture.
On the way back from Oshkosh I spent an hour scratching my head along with a
Kitfox pilot trying to figure out why his new HKS wasn't running right. I
left before I lost any more hair, so I don't know were the problem was. Four
strokes aren't all created equal so don't go and switch to a less reliable 4
stroke (Is that possible?)
Hang in there Bill.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hot heads
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Richard: It is a 66" IVO two-blade.
>
> This whole thing really has me way beyond baffled... I agree with you...
> something is fundamentally wrong with this picture.
>
> I'm going to order some new rings here in a minute, clean up the pistons
> and
> bores, scrub off the carbon and
> have another go at it next week. I have another Bing, a new one off an
> 8-hour 447 I bought for parts after an accident... I think I will
> verify the jetting and metering rod in it and substitute it for the one on
> "Dameon" before I run him
> again... I'll also defer to you more experienced 2-strokers and lighten up
> on the prop to turn
> 6200 or 6300 static vice the 6000 it was set for yesterday.
>
> Wheee....!!!
>
> Beauford
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hot heads
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>>
>> Yes, and yes, but Beauford's situation still has me scratching my head.
>> Something is still not right with that whole deal.
>> An engine normally is not nearly that critical, they are typically
>> much more tolerant. Normally you expect some variation, but
>> within a smaller and comfortable range. Normally you have to
>> be "coloring outside the lines" before things go really bad.
>>
>> A healthy engine, stock jets, and a prop pitched for around 6250
>> on climb out ought to be a non-event in terms of drama.
>>
>> Hey Beauford - what diameter prop and how many blades?
>>
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>> At 11:31 PM 8/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>>>
>>>In a message dated 8/4/2005 11:46:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>>>
>>>In practice, this works out like this:
>>>More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
>>>Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
>>>Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
>>>More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
>>>
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me see if I have it right. During break-in of a new engine, stock
>>>jets. If the head temp gets to high, approx 80% throttle, Taking pitch
>>>out of
>>>the prop will lower cylinder head temps? I guess that means an engine
>>>propped
>>>for cruising would run with hotter heads than if it were propped for
>>>climb.
>>>Is that correct?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Beauford
If there is trouble with the gearbox ..bad bearing..low on grease..would
that cause
higher CHT or would it show up on the RPMs ??
Bill Vincent
FS2
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Not a clue.
Hmmm...CHT sensor attached to the exhaust manifold?
(Sorry, couldn't resist...<grin>)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 10:10 AM 8/5/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/5/05 7:57:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>
> > In practice, this works out like this:
> > >More load at X throttle = the engine works harder = CHT up
> > >Less load at X throttle = engine works less = CHT down
> > >Less load at X throttle = higher RPM = leaner mixture = higher EGT
> > >More load at X throttle = lower RPM = richer mixture = lower EGT
> > >
> >
>
>OK Guys, Now I am really confused, my 447 does not act that way. At my
>current pitch setting if I am flying at 6000 rpm and I descend at that
>throttle
>setting, My cht goes up. If I pull back and climb, cht goes down. That made
>sense to me because those changes would lean and richen
>respectfully. What am I
>missing here/
>
>Steve
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
At my
| current pitch setting if I am flying at 6000 rpm and I descend at
that throttle
| setting, My cht goes up. If I pull back and climb, cht goes down.
That made
| sense to me because those changes would lean and richen
respectfully. What am I
| missing here/
| 't h
| Steve
Steve/Gang:
Sounds like you have the cht and egt gauges wired backwards.
Unloading engine should bring cht down and egt up. Loading it brings
cht up and egt down.
Hard to believe my weed eater is doing all these things at 10,000 rpm
and I don't have gauges to monitor.
Reference carbon on piston tops: It is normal on 2 and 4 stroke
engines to have some carbon. This small amount of carbon acts as an
insulator, reducing some of the combustion heat from being transmitted
to the piston top. This info was passed on to me by a well know
engine builder many years ago when I was flying in front of a 447.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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--> Kolb-List message posted by:
Subject: EGT Probe for 912
Kolb Friends -
I am in the final stages of the 912 installation for my Mark-III.
The engine was originally equipped with an EGT probe in the exhaust pipe.
Since I do not intend to use an EGT gauge in my plane, I removed the probe.
What's left is a 1/8" hole in the exhaust pipe, and I understand it is NOT
recommended that the engine be run with this hole uncovered.
My question is: What's the recommended way to seal this old EGT hole?
Many thanks -
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 8/5/05 10:21:14 AM Central Daylight Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
> Steve/Gang:
>
> Sounds like you have the cht and egt gauges wired backwards.
>
> Unloading engine should bring cht down and egt up. Loading it brings
> cht up and egt down.
>
Thanks John, Probably not the gauges backwards, might be my memory. I am
still pretty busy learning about the plane and all of the other demands of water
flying.
I have mostly been concerned with everything being in the green. Next time
I fly I think I will take some notes.
Steve
FireFly #007
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>At my
>| current pitch setting if I am flying at 6000 rpm and I descend at
>that throttle
>| setting, My cht goes up. If I pull back and climb, cht goes down.
>That made
>| sense to me because those changes would lean and richen
>respectfully. What am I
>| missing here/
>| 't h
>
>
>Reference carbon on piston tops: It is normal on 2 and 4 stroke
>engines to have some carbon. This small amount of carbon acts as an
>insulator, reducing some of the combustion heat from being transmitted
>to the piston top. This info was passed on to me by a well know
>engine builder many years ago when I was flying in front of a 447.
>
>john h
>MKIII/912ULS
>
>
Hi John , Beauford and all
I agree with john just clean the carbon off the top of the piston
that will come off easy. The hard coating needs to be there.
Beauford you have gotten a lot of good opinions on this so here goes
mine. Your suckin air my man! You have a gasket or seal leaking and this
is leaning the mixture, check your intake and crank seals. FWIW
Bryan Green Elgin SC
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To All,
I talked to Travis today at Kolb and he asked if I would post the dates for
the 2005 Annual Fly-In. It is scheduled for Sept 23rd and 24th. That should
be a Thursday and a Friday. If you have any questions you can call him at
606-862-9692. He is about 400 E Mails behind so calling would be better.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: TNK Homecoming |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 8/5/2005 3:37:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
> To All,
>
> I talked to Travis today at Kolb and he asked if I would post the dates for
> the 2005 Annual Fly-In. It is scheduled for Sept 23rd and 24th. That
> should
> be a Thursday and a Friday. If you have any questions you can call him at
> 606-862-9692. He is about 400 E Mails behind so calling would be better.
>
>
> Steve
>
CORRECTION
Sorry, The Kolb Fly In is a Friday and Saturday and the date is still Sept 23
and 24.
Had an old calendar.
Steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
Does anyone have the coordinates? Thanks!
John
-- N27SB@aol.com wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 8/5/2005 3:37:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com
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> To All,
>
> I talked to Travis today at Kolb and he asked if I would post the dates for
> the 2005 Annual Fly-In. It is scheduled for Sept 23rd and 24th. That
> should
> be a Thursday and a Friday. If you have any questions you can call him at
> 606-862-9692. He is about 400 E Mails behind so calling would be better.
>
>
> Steve
>
CORRECTION
Sorry, The Kolb Fly In is a Friday and Saturday and the date is still Sept 23
and 24.
Had an old calendar.
Steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone have the coordinates? Thanks!
John
Hi John,
Here's the Lat/Long from the AirNav site:
Lat/Long: 37-09-04.0000N / 084-15-27.0000W
37-09.066667N / 084-15.450000W
37.1511111 / -84.2575000
The AirNav site has lots of other info too:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/3KY2
Cheers,
Rusty (yes Steve, they print a new calendar EVERY year <g>)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 8/5/2005 4:36:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
13brv3c@bellsouth.net writes:
> Cheers,
> Rusty (yes Steve, they print a new calendar EVERY year <g>)
>
>
Yes but I like Miss September from last year
steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| the 2005 Annual Fly-In. It is scheduled for Sept 23rd and 24th.
That should
| be a Thursday and a Friday. | Steve
Steve/Gang:
Travis is using wrong year. 23 and 24 will be more like Fri and Sat,
as usual. ;-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Guys it has been hot ...damn hot to be honest ..however still plugging along. Today
I went to the shop pondered many things but after a long week I just cleaned
up took a few pics and called it a night. Our new member to the list Mitty..
is planning to visit this weekend. He wants to build a Ultra star from scratch.
I like this idea. If any of you remember way back when I found this Kolb
list I was seeking info about a ultralight that I found on the internet. Turns
out it was Dennis performing loops in a Ultrastar with very short landing gear.
More like a quicksilver. I for one would love to find those pictures... The
Ultra star was my first pic but after two visits to TNK guess what .... dead
up in a high dollar Kolbra! yeeee haaaa
If any one can find those pics of Dennis inverted in that unpainted plain high
boom ultra I would sure like to archive them...
It was the struts over the king post and wires approach that drew me to Kolb aircraft
in the first place.
as for up dated pics of Ms Dixie here ya have it!
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050001.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050002.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050003.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050005.JPG
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Hit the wrong key sorry guys
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050007.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050008.JPG
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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Take Care all
Do not archive
pp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Tenn Metfan <tnmetfanbeckett@yahoo.com>
Can a Kolb wannabe drive in? Checked MapQuest says I am 4 hours and 270 miles away...,
any place for a motorhome to park nearby?
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John
Hauck"
| the 2005 Annual Fly-In. It is scheduled for Sept 23rd and 24th.
That should
| be a Thursday and a Friday. | Steve
Steve/Gang:
Travis is using wrong year. 23 and 24 will be more like Fri and Sat,
as usual. ;-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Can a Kolb wannabe drive in? Checked MapQuest says I am 4 hours and
270 miles away..., any place for a motorhome to park nearby?
Howdy:
Everybody is welcome at the Annual Kolb Homecoming.
However, we like to know who we are talking to. ;-)
If you sign your name to your posts, and where you are from, then
we'll know.
Take care,
john h
MKIII/912ULS
Titus, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Ok, Beauford - Just in case you didn't have enough to think about... Back
on 7/23, when you were putting your engine back together, you found that
the wire from the trigger circuit to the ignition module was missing it's
insulation, and you suggested that perhaps it was defective insulation. I
wonder if that was actually a heads up to show you the real problem all along?
What if the real problem is a partial ignition failure or other glitch that
is making your engine keep cannibalizing itself, and all this other
foofaraw that you have been chasing after is unrelated to what is actually
the problem? Which is that there is something wrong with the ignition? And
the insulation that was gone from the wiring was a hint that something got
too hot and melted it off?
Any way you can put a timing light on that puppy the next time you fire it
up and see what it is actually doing? Or figure out some way to verify that
the ignition system is actually doing what it is supposed to, and not doing
more harm than good?
"We must fall back upon the old axiom that when all other contingencies
fail, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Sherlock Holmes - The Adventure of Bruce-Partington Plans (1908)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ld Poops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I think the sequence is on the early Kolb promotional VHS tape. I haven't
looked at it in years, so won't promise, but I sure think so.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: working
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Guys it has been hot ...damn hot to be honest ..however still plugging
> along. Today I went to the shop pondered many things but after a long week
> I just cleaned up took a few pics and called it a night. Our new member to
> the list Mitty.. is planning to visit this weekend. He wants to build a
> Ultra star from scratch. I like this idea. If any of you remember way back
> when I found this Kolb list I was seeking info about a ultralight that I
> found on the internet. Turns out it was Dennis performing loops in a
> Ultrastar with very short landing gear. More like a quicksilver. I for one
> would love to find those pictures... The Ultra star was my first pic but
> after two visits to TNK guess what .... dead up in a high dollar Kolbra!
> yeeee haaaa
> If any one can find those pics of Dennis inverted in that unpainted plain
> high boom ultra I would sure like to archive them...
>
> It was the struts over the king post and wires approach that drew me to
> Kolb aircraft in the first place.
>
> as for up dated pics of Ms Dixie here ya have it!
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050001.JPG
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050002.JPG
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050003.JPG
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P8050005.JPG
>
>
>
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