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1. 03:53 AM - Gap Seals (Bob and Jenn B)
2. 04:13 AM - Re: Long Sitting Rotax 582 (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: Gap Seals (Denny Rowe)
4. 06:00 AM - my opinion (Ted Cowan)
5. 06:03 AM - Re: CDI conversion (flykolb)
6. 06:20 AM - Kolb List Archives (John Hauck)
7. 06:30 AM - Re: Gap Seals (kfackler)
8. 06:33 AM - Re: my opinion (Beauford)
9. 06:42 AM - Fw: Kolb List Archives (John Hauck)
10. 07:01 AM - Re: Kolb List Archives (John Hauck)
11. 07:28 AM - Re: Kolb List Archives (flykolb)
12. 08:34 AM - Aileron Authority on Firestar (jdmurr@juno.com)
13. 09:25 AM - CHT Senders (N27SB@aol.com)
14. 10:10 AM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (bryan green)
15. 11:41 AM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (bryan green)
16. 12:28 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (woody)
17. 12:57 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (jdmurr@juno.com)
18. 01:09 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
19. 01:39 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (Terry Frantz)
20. 05:32 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (HShack@aol.com)
21. 08:23 PM - Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
22. 09:28 PM - Re: CHT Senders (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Gap seals have been brought up again as in the past. Has anyone seen any
performance boost or better contol authority with them? I put them on my Mk
II, used the tape on the top and bottom, and didn't notice a thing. It
became a hassle when it started peeling so I took it off, still no change.
Maybe I just don't go fast enough to make a difference, I rarely get over
60, so the drag doesn't affect it and the stall seemed the same.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Long Sitting Rotax 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 7/23/2005 12:02:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kolbdriver@mlsharp.com writes:
>
> Mike (MK III C, she's still with me, lost 2 wives and 3 jobs in the
> process.)
>
to this I merely say....wow....your head is definitely not crossthreaded!!
George of The Villages
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Gap Seals
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
>
> Gap seals have been brought up again as in the past. Has anyone seen any
> performance boost or better contol authority with them? I put them on my
> Mk
> II, used the tape on the top and bottom, and didn't notice a thing. It
> became a hassle when it started peeling so I took it off, still no change.
>
> Maybe I just don't go fast enough to make a difference, I rarely get over
> 60, so the drag doesn't affect it and the stall seemed the same.
>
> Bob
>
>
> Bob,
On my Mk-3 I began flight testing without the tape and than added it.
The control response, glide performance, cruise and top speeds all improved.
It felt like I removed a lot of drag.
I applied the clear 3M book binding tape to the bottom side only.
One of the things that might make a differance from plane to plane is how
big of a gap the builder has between each surface, the bigger the gaps, the
more air passes between the surfaces without tape, so the bigger the
improvement when tape is added. OK OK I admit it, I have a little more gap
between surfaces than the plans call for.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA, Still working on the hanger.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
Just want to make a couple of comments here. I just know someone was really
smart enough to know to keep the piston rings marked and tagged for the
piston they came off of during decarbonization. I mean, pistons are not
round and they are not-not round at an equal pace. One piston can 'egg' at
a different position. If you put the ring/rings on the wrong piston during
assembly, you got a problem. Might work for a little while but would not
seat because of the micro grooves already in the walls and ring sets. (Note
the word 'sets') It would be very easy to put the top ring from #1 piston
to #2 piston especially if you were not practiced in this art.
Number two thought: If I were to have a little hole in my exhaust pipe
from a probe, I would put a small stainless screw in it and place a muffler
clamp on it for safety. I believe that would be that until I needed the
hole again.
Thirdly: I mostly wear my Nomax or whatever it is, jump suit unless it is
super hot out. I also wear a modified chopper helmet to protect what little
brain waves I may have at the present time. I wouldnt think of driving my
scooter without one either. You can beat your body into little pieces and
survive but one little tap in the wrong place on your head, yo a veggie. My
thoughts. Ted Cowan
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| Subject: | Re: CDI conversion |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Richard,
Dumb question - how do I search the archives?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: CDI conversion
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Yes. Check the archives.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
>
> At 02:07 AM 8/7/05 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> >Kolbers,
> >
> >I have a Rotax 532 and am thinking of sending it to steve at Airscrew to
> >convert from points ot CDI. Any experience or comments?
> >
> >Jim
> >Mark III
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb List Archives |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| Jim
Morning Jim/Gang:
To search the Kolb Archives, go to the bottom of this post, click on:
That brings us a Menu Page. Scroll down the options and click on:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
From here on out, read the directions and follow instructions.
Good luck. I figured it out so it can't be that difficult.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
I also have a Mark II, and flew mine for a while after I bought it without a
gap seal. I couldn't tell any difference. I've kept the seal on, however.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Gap Seals
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
>
> Gap seals have been brought up again as in the past. Has anyone seen any
> performance boost or better contol authority with them? I put them on my
Mk
> II, used the tape on the top and bottom, and didn't notice a thing. It
> became a hassle when it started peeling so I took it off, still no change.
>
> Maybe I just don't go fast enough to make a difference, I rarely get over
> 60, so the drag doesn't affect it and the stall seemed the same.
>
> Bob
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
And good thoughts they are, too...
You're right about the pistons and rings...took great care to ensure the
same ring went back on the same piston in the
same cylinder, under the same head... Unfortunately, I got the same
result....
Same Beauford
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----- Original Message -----
Subject: Kolb-List: my opinion
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
>
> Just want to make a couple of comments here. I just know someone was
> really
> smart enough to know to keep the piston rings marked and tagged for the
> piston they came off of during decarbonization. >
My thoughts. Ted Cowan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb List Archives |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
on:
Folks:
Here's the url that was dropped from my previous.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Archives |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Archives |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
John h,
Thanks,
I found what I needed.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb List Archives
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Dumb question - how do I search the archives?
>
> Morning Jim/Gang:
>
> To search the Kolb Archives, go to the bottom of this post, click on:
>
>
> That brings us a Menu Page. Scroll down the options and click on:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
>
> From here on out, read the directions and follow instructions.
>
> Good luck. I figured it out so it can't be that difficult.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
In addition to gap seal, which I have, Is there any other way to increase the aileron
authority?
I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the windshield.
Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough especially if
I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need it.
Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation? Thanks.
John
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To All
I am getting ready to replace the CHT Senders on my 447. Has any one come up
with an alternative to using the reglular old spark plug type?
Thanks
steve
Firefly #007
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hello John, check for slop in your control system and check the
adjustment on your aileron cables you should have more then enough
aileron on your plane.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS
jdmurr@juno.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
>
>In addition to gap seal, which I have, Is there any other way to increase the
aileron authority?
>
>I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the windshield.
Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough especially
if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need it.
>
>Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation? Thanks.
>
>John
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Sorry gang, scratch the part about cables just woke up. check for wear
and adjustment in your aileron control system.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
bryan green wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
>Hello John, check for slop in your control system and check the
>adjustment on your aileron cables you should have more then enough
>aileron on your plane.
>Bryan Green Elgin SC
>Firestar 447 BRS
>
>jdmurr@juno.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>>
>>
>>In addition to gap seal, which I have, Is there any other way to increase the
aileron authority?
>>
>>I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the windshield.
Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough especially
if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need it.
>>
>>Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation? Thanks.
>>
>>John
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Have you ever bumped your knuckles on the windshield while flying?
> I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the
windshield. Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough
especially if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need
it.
>
> Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation?
Thanks.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
yes
-- "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Have you ever bumped your knuckles on the windshield while flying?
> I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the
windshield. Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough
especially if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need
it.
>
> Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation?
Thanks.
>
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| Subject: | Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
John/Woody et al:
In the FS II, it would be great if I could bump my knuckles on the
windshield. At 6'3", I "bump my knuckles" on my thighs. Seriously, I have
made a hoop out of 3/8" brake line and "bowed" my windscreen out a couple of
inches on each side so that my legs are more spread out to give me more
throw for the stick. In my Original FS, I had to relax the sling seat back
allowing me to sit further back, lowering my knees, getting my legs almost
straight out. In both cases (FSII and Orig FS), these fixes give/gave me
the authority that I could be comfortable with. On the FS II, I would still
like to come up with a fix (easy one that is) that would allow me to sit
further back.
On the other hand John, how much further would the stick go if the
windscreen weren't there? Can't be too much more.
There is some stuff in the archives (for the FS II) that relates to a
mechanical fix which increase that amount of movement of the ailerons for a
given amount of stick throw. Don't know if there is anything similar for
the Orig FS.
Fun, Safe Flying!
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of woody
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aileron Authority on Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Have you ever bumped your knuckles on the windshield while flying?
> I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the
windshield. Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough
especially if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need
it.
>
> Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation?
Thanks.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
jdmurr@juno.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
>
>In addition to gap seal, which I have, Is there any other way to increase the
aileron authority?
>
>I have a 1989 Firestar. My stick travels to the left and it hits the windshield.
Right isn't much better. For most applications this is enough especially
if I add rudder. I just don't want to get caught short if I need it.
>
>Is there a fix for this or a modification from the original installation? Thanks.
>
>John
>
>
>
>
John,
There is all kinds of local expertise available to you if you just ask.
Many of them aren't on the Kolb List, but I gave you a list of all of
the locals that could be of help. The guy's on the list are real
helpful, but they can't eyeball your problem.
Just a suggestion to the new guy in town,
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 8/8/2005 11:35:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jdmurr@juno.com writes:
In addition to gap seal, which I have, Is there any other way to increase the
aileron authority?
\
Vortex Generators [VG's] will help some.......
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Authority on Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
John
I just got done rebuilding my Original Firestar and I made a fix for that
same problem the stick would hit the left side of the windshield but the stick
would hit its own linkage to the right You can look at my PICS but I don't know
it your up to doing what I did to mine it was a lot of work but I changed it
all so the linkage comes out below the Tail boom tube like the newer Kolbs
I think my prop in on the slow boat :o(
Ellery Batchelder in Maine Original Firestar Modified
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
In a message dated 8/8/2005 12:26:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com
writes:
alternative to using the reglular old spark plug type
Steve/All,
On my 447, I used a 10 mm size sender and installed it under the 8 mm cyl
head nut. This may not give you the exact head temp, but it will still allow you
to monitor any change. (Beauford, listen up)--Mine indicates 250 degrees,
lower than normal. This eliminates the wear and tear on the sensor everytime
you remove the sparkplug. I only use a single sensor and instrument. The
sensor is placed under the rear most bolt on the intake side of the engine, because
I thought that might be the hottest point.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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