---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/10/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:21 AM - MkIII (Ted Cowan) 2. 07:43 AM - Pre Mix made easy (dama) 3. 09:07 AM - Brake Cylinder Hone (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com) 4. 11:14 AM - Re: Pre Mix made easy (Ralph) 5. 11:36 AM - Re: Pre Mix made easy (PATRICK LADD) 6. 12:24 PM - Re: Pre Mix made easy (dama) 7. 12:26 PM - Ceramic coating (N27SB@aol.com) 8. 12:45 PM - Re: Pre Mix made easy (Thom Riddle) 9. 01:46 PM - Re: Ceramic coating (HShack@aol.com) 10. 02:05 PM - Re: Ceramic coating (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 11. 03:44 PM - Re: Ceramic coating (Bob N.) 12. 05:06 PM - Re: Pre Mix made easy (Herb Gayheart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:37 AM PST US From: Ted Cowan Subject: Kolb-List: MkIII --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan Would like to mention that anyone looking for a really nice MkIII should go to our web site at: www.homestead.com/southernflyers and check out the for sale section. This is really nice especially for the price. Ted Cowan. Alabama ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:29 AM PST US From: "dama" Subject: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy --> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" For all of you pre-mixers out there, I thought that I would share what I have been using for that last 3 years. Find a bottled water brand called "VOSS". And, if you don't mind spending $1.89 for the 13oz. bottle, you'll have a convenient bottle to mix in. It looks like this... http://www.springeraviation.net/premix1.html I add oil to the point to where it says "artesian" near the top. NOTE...in the pic, I have tilted the bottle to show the letters but the idea is to fill it right to the line. This is 50:1 for 5 gallons of gas. I add Marvels Mystery Oil in the remainder of the bottle (about 2oz.) This package travels easily to the gas station and I used it on my trip to Sun N Fun. I just bought a new bottle and after 3 years, the "artesian" mark is still in the same place on the new bottle. http://www.springeraviation.net/premix2.html This method sure works better that using the Ratio Rite at the gas station! Regards, Kip http://www.springeraviation.net/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Brake Cylinder Hone From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com 11:05:41 AM, Serialize complete at 08/10/2005 11:05:41 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 08/10/2005 11:06:34 AM, Serialize by Router on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 08/10/2005 11:06:37 AM, Serialize complete at 08/10/2005 11:06:37 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com Fellow Kolb repair dudes. During the process of repairing my Firestar leg sockets I found I could not slide my legs back up into position. Apparently while welding I penetrated the socket wall. To remedy this dilemma I got out an old brake cylinder hone, attached to my 1/4' drill and smoothed out the goober. Worked great. The "soon to be back in the air" Flying Farmer do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:39 AM PST US From: "Ralph" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" Kip and others, I've found that a plastic baby bottle works even better with the ounces marked on the side. Can't go wrong here. Ralph Original Firestar, 18 years flying it -- \"dama\" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" For all of you pre-mixers out there, I thought that I would share what I have been using for that last 3 years. Find a bottled water brand called "VOSS". And, if you don't mind spending $1.89 for the 13oz. bottle, you'll have a convenient bottle to mix in. It looks like this... http://www.springeraviation.net/premix1.html I add oil to the point to where it says "artesian" near the top. NOTE...in the pic, I have tilted the bottle to show the letters but the idea is to fill it right to the line. This is 50:1 for 5 gallons of gas. I add Marvels Mystery Oil in the remainder of the bottle (about 2oz.) This package travels easily to the gas station and I used it on my trip to Sun N Fun. I just bought a new bottle and after 3 years, the "artesian" mark is still in the same place on the new bottle. http://www.springeraviation.net/premix2.html This method sure works better that using the Ratio Rite at the gas station! Regards, Kip http://www.springeraviation.net/ Kip and others, I've found that a plastic baby bottle works even better with the ounces marked on the side. Can't go wrong here. Ralph Original Firestar, 18 years flying it --\"dama\"wrote: --Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"dama" Forallofyoupre-mixersoutthere,IthoughtthatIwouldsharewhatIhavebeenusingforthatlast3years.Findabottledwaterbrandcalled"VOSS".And,ifyoudon'tmindspending$1.89forthe13oz.bottle,you'llhaveaconvenientbottletomixin.Itlookslikethis... http://www.springeraviation.net/premix1.html Iaddoiltothepointtowhereitsays"artesian"nearthetop.NOTE...inthepic,Ihavetiltedthebottleto&nb sp;showthelettersbuttheideaistofillitrighttotheline.Thisis50:1for5gallonsofgas.IaddMarvelsMysteryOilintheremainderofthebottle(about2oz.)ThispackagetravelseasilytothegasstationandIuseditonmytriptoSunNFun.Ijustboughtanewbottleandafter3years,the"artesian"markisstillinthesameplaceonthenewbottle. http://www.springeraviation.net/premix2.html ThismethodsureworksbetterthatusingtheRatioRiteatthegasstation! Regards, Kip http://www.spr ingeraviation.net/ ================ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:56 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" For all of you pre-mixers out there>> Hi, there seems to be much discussion about oils etc., on this list. Mainly discussing brands of which I have never heard. Nothing surprising in that between the USA and the UK but have you no main line suppliers as we have Shell and BP? I always buy half litres of oil and mix in a 25 litres tank of fuel. I realise that buying a top brand in small quantities is an expensive way to do it but it means the oil is always fresh and always dispensed accurately. I have no idea of relative oil qualities in the States but I certainly wouldn`t buy a brand called Marvels Mystery Oil as a matter of principle. I am always offered a cheaper brand than the BP oil specifically made for air cooled 2 strokes which I use, and I can buy it in larger quantities and save a few pence but I consider my neck more important than saving a few pennies, and I have never had a problem with my much maligned Rotax 503. Of course now that petrol here is about 5dollars 35 cents for your gallon no one will be able to fly at all.. What are you up to now? About a buck and a half.? My heart bleeds for you. Cheers Pat -- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:36 PM PST US From: "dama" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy --> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" We're up to $2.50 now and, Marvels is great in one's tea if you don't trust it in your engine:) KIp http://www.springeraviation.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > For all of you pre-mixers out there>> > > Hi, > there seems to be much discussion about oils etc., on this list. Mainly > discussing brands of which I have never heard. Nothing surprising in that > between the USA and the UK but have you no main line suppliers as we have > Shell and BP? > I always buy half litres of oil and mix in a 25 litres tank of fuel. I > realise that buying a top brand in small quantities is an expensive way to > do it but it means the oil is always fresh and always dispensed accurately. > I have no idea of relative oil qualities in the States but I certainly > wouldn`t buy a brand called Marvels Mystery Oil as a matter of principle. > I am always offered a cheaper brand than the BP oil specifically made for > air cooled 2 strokes which I use, and I can buy it in larger quantities and > save a few pence but I consider my neck more important than saving a few > pennies, and I have never had a problem with my much maligned Rotax 503. > > Of course now that petrol here is about 5dollars 35 cents for your gallon > no one will be able to fly at all.. > What are you up to now? About a buck and a half.? My heart bleeds for you. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:15 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Ceramic coating --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com To All, Bryan and I have been making good progress on our Twin Fireflys. (That's Twin as in two of them that are the same, not twin engine) I have a new 447 and I want to have the exhaust muffler coated. Who would be a good source for the shiny stuff that looks like dull chrome? Steve ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:32 PM PST US From: Thom Riddle Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Pre Mix made easy --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle Patrick, In Buffalo, NY, the the cheapest price per US gallon of 87 octane is currently $2.37 and one of the most commonly used "main line" oils used in 2-stroke Rotax engines is Pennzoil for Air-cooled engines. When I lived in Amsterdam, about 15 years ago, LPG was used widely in automobiles as it was by far the cheapest fuel available(due to tax differentials, of course). Second was diesel, followed by gasoline. No signs of LPG on the horizon here for everyday use in automobiles, though many commercial fleet operators have converted their busses and trucks to run on LPG. There have been some noises coming from congress quite recently proposing a $2/gallon increase in taxes to encourage us profligate energy users and abusers to conserve, and of course to sweeten the government's coffers, as well. If this happens, then we will be almost on a par with Europe. Thom do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:02 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ceramic coating --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 8/10/2005 3:26:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com writes: I want to have the exhaust muffler coated. Who would be a good source for the shiny stuff that looks like dull chrome? We all used "Jet-Hot". 1 [800]432-3379 About 10 days, total. Costs about $125. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:51 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ceramic coating --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Steve I have a neibor that does the Ceramic coting that you are talking about and I will soon have my exhaust system done I will let you know what it cost Ellery Batchelder Jr in Maine With original Firestar with some extras Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:53 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ceramic coating --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." I used Airborne Coatings, http://www.airbornecoatings.com 1-800-986-4646 two locations: 8180 Bourbon St, OKC OK 73128 ph (405) 685-4486 52 Village St, East Hartford CT 06108 ph (860)528-8281 fax (860) 528-0023 Mine's been on 6 yrs and looks new, no rust. Bob N. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pre Mix made easy From: Herb Gayheart --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart Pat Now how can that be?? :-) You pay the same or a little less for the same barrell of oil. We are at $2. 29 cents locally for Regular grade. Herb in Ky ps Marvel Mystery Oil is an additive for auto gas and oil in this country. Not a 2 cycle oil . do not archive On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:36:15 +0100 "PATRICK LADD" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > > For all of you pre-mixers out there>> > >I > certainly > wouldn`t buy a brand called Marvels Mystery Oil as a matter of --- >> no one will be able to fly at all.. > What are you up to now? About a buck and a half.? My heart bleeds > for you. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > -- >