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1. 05:18 AM - Kolb Dealer ... (Noel Bouchard)
2. 05:45 AM - Spring (Herb Gayheart)
3. 08:22 AM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
4. 09:43 AM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (PATRICK LADD)
5. 10:36 AM - My 172 (Todd Fredricks)
6. 11:12 AM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (russ kinne)
7. 11:41 AM - Re: My 172 (Herb Gayheart)
8. 02:49 PM - Re: My 172 (Todd Fredricks)
9. 04:52 PM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (Robert Mason)
10. 04:58 PM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (Jim Ballenger)
11. 05:14 PM - Space Shuttle Piggyback (Domenic Perez)
12. 06:41 PM - Ultrastar inspection (Mitty)
13. 07:02 PM - Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA (woody)
14. 07:08 PM - Re: My 172 (woody)
15. 07:19 PM - Re: Bing Enrichment Piston (WhiskeyVictor36@AOL.COM)
16. 09:08 PM - Re: Lockwood's Diagnosis (jerb)
17. 09:21 PM - New web page address (John Williamson)
18. 09:29 PM - St. Clair's Bottom (Richard Pike)
19. 09:50 PM - Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA (Josh Lazar)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Noel Bouchard <noelbou@cam.org>
Hello Josh,
My name is Noel Bouchard, and i also live in Mtl ...
As far as i know ... there is no Kolb dealer in Canada ...
(But i may be missing something ...)
I am the proud owner of a Kolb MK II (Twinstar) since 1999.
Now ~ 320 hours on it ... and i love it !
You made the right choice in choosing Kolb ...
Feel free to contact me at (514) 723-6663
(or by email) if you want ...
Nol
Dear Kolb Group,
Just joined this group, I don't own an ultralight yet but I am in the
process of finding one. The Mark lll XTRA is what I have in mind. Do any
of you know if there is a Kolb dealer in Canada, specifically in Montreal
or
Toronto or that general vicinity.
Your help would be greatly appriciated.
Josh Lazar
Montreal, Canada
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Kolbers and Kolbettes
I sold a 503 engine and it was missing the return spring on the oil
pump. Anybody have one? I will call SMLA in the morning. Herb in Ky
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Need a bit of help from some of you MKlll X builders on two issues.
1. Which BRS unit are you using on the Xtra and does BRS supply the proper
mounting hardware?
2.The fiberglass fairing on the wing gap seal is giving me fits (probably a
mental block). It appears that it will not fit over the windshield if I trim
it enough to fit the contour of the wing LE and sit on the top windshield
bow. I do not have the wind shield in yet and am trying to get the fit close for
now and do the final fit after engine and electronic's testing (radio's,
etc.) after which I will install the lexan. Does it help or hinder to install
some velcro to push the gap seal out from the LE a bit?
How to handle any other sticky issues on these last few weeks would be
appreciated. Have Gap Seal, Nose Bowl,& windshield as last remaining large items.
Thanks in advance
Larry Tasker
N615RT
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
The fiberglass fairing on the wing gap seal is giving me fits>>
Hi there,
`fits` in this case is not the word to use. Mine didn`t fit any where, about
like my army boots, in fact I was convinced that it was for another aircraft
entirely.
Glad someone else is finding it odd. I thought I was the only one
Good luck
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
All of you Kolbers out there, if you know of anyone looking for a 1960s 172,
selling mine is what stands between me and a Mark IIIX so if you hear of
anyone interested in such a beast, send them my way.
Todd Fredricks
Athens, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Patrick
Don't know how handy you are with f'glass but a fairing is fairly easy
to make. We used to get a chunk of foam insulation -- here it's 1-2-or
4"thick, and blue -- and
simply carve & rasp it into shape -- then cover it with newspapers laid
on with casein glue -- here it's Elmers, watered down some -- make sure
no gaps. Then lay the glasscloth on & saturate it with the resin.
Finish with "angel hair", a finely woven f'glass. Can even make a
custom gas-tank; after the resin has cured, pour gas (sorry, petrol) in
& it will dissolve the foam & it all can be poured out. (Doesn't do the
gas much good tho) Hat-sections and stiffeners can be added to the
outside if needed.
Egad! if adversity strengthens one, you're Charles Atlas (do you know
that reference?)
Sorry you're having all these complications -- has your prop arrived
yet? And they didn't send a left-handed one??
Good luck, keep the faith,
fair winds,
Russ
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On Aug 21, 2005, at 12:33 PM, PATRICK LADD wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> The fiberglass fairing on the wing gap seal is giving me fits>>
>
> Hi there,
>
> `fits` in this case is not the word to use. Mine didn`t fit any where,
> about
> like my army boots, in fact I was convinced that it was for another
> aircraft
> entirely.
>
> Glad someone else is finding it odd. I thought I was the only one
>
> Good luck
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Todd
I have a friend with a Skyboy who wants a 172. 70 hours and well
equipped. 912S engine. Herb
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:33:23 -0400 Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks
> <flyingfox@copper.net>
>
> All of you Kolbers out there, if you know of anyone looking for a
> 1960s 172,
> selling mine is what stands between me and a Mark IIIX so if you
> hear of
> anyone interested in such a beast, send them my way.
>
> Todd Fredricks
> Athens, OH
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
Send him my way.
Thanks, Todd
On 8/21/05 2:36 AM, "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
>
> Todd
> I have a friend with a Skyboy who wants a 172. 70 hours and well
> equipped. 912S engine. Herb
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:33:23 -0400 Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
> writes:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks
>> <flyingfox@copper.net>
>>
>> All of you Kolbers out there, if you know of anyone looking for a
>> 1960s 172,
>> selling mine is what stands between me and a Mark IIIX so if you
>> hear of
>> anyone interested in such a beast, send them my way.
>>
>> Todd Fredricks
>> Athens, OH
>>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Mason <masonclan@sbcglobal.net>
--- Cat36Fly@aol.com wrote:
I had to do some modification on the nose cone and the gap seal as
well, I had to open up the bottom of the nose cone so I could slip it
over the front of the cage to make it sit straight, also added some
sheet metal to the bttom end part of the gap seal and than attached
the end fairing to that.
Robert Mason
MK111 X 582
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
>
> Need a bit of help from some of you MKlll X builders on two issues.
>
> 1. Which BRS unit are you using on the Xtra and does BRS supply the
> proper
> mounting hardware?
>
> 2.The fiberglass fairing on the wing gap seal is giving me fits
> (probably a
> mental block). It appears that it will not fit over the windshield if
> I trim
> it enough to fit the contour of the wing LE and sit on the top
> windshield
> bow. I do not have the wind shield in yet and am trying to get the
> fit close for
> now and do the final fit after engine and electronic's testing
> (radio's,
> etc.) after which I will install the lexan. Does it help or hinder to
> install
> some velcro to push the gap seal out from the LE a bit?
>
> How to handle any other sticky issues on these last few weeks would
> be
> appreciated. Have Gap Seal, Nose Bowl,& windshield as last remaining
> large items.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Larry Tasker
> N615RT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Larry
I had to build up my fiberglass fairing at each side where it starts to turn
in at the side. I laid about 1 1/2 " of glass cloth on the inside and
sanded the outside down so the thickness was about 1/8 ".
Good luck
Jim Ballenger
Selling a FS KXP 447
Flying a MK III X 582
DO NO ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cat36Fly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Gap Seal & BRS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
>
> Need a bit of help from some of you MKlll X builders on two issues.
>
> 1. Which BRS unit are you using on the Xtra and does BRS supply the proper
> mounting hardware?
>
> 2.The fiberglass fairing on the wing gap seal is giving me fits (probably
> a
> mental block). It appears that it will not fit over the windshield if I
> trim
> it enough to fit the contour of the wing LE and sit on the top windshield
> bow. I do not have the wind shield in yet and am trying to get the fit
> close for
> now and do the final fit after engine and electronic's testing (radio's,
> etc.) after which I will install the lexan. Does it help or hinder to
> install
> some velcro to push the gap seal out from the LE a bit?
>
> How to handle any other sticky issues on these last few weeks would be
> appreciated. Have Gap Seal, Nose Bowl,& windshield as last remaining large
> items.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Larry Tasker
> N615RT
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Space Shuttle Piggyback |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
Kolbers,
Probably a once in a lifetime sight here in the middle of New Mexico two days
ago. My brother calls me from my west and says there is an interesting aircraft
that just went over him going west to east. I jump out of the dump truck
and look up and at about 3000-3500 AGL is the space shuttle piggyback on its 747
headed back to Canaveral. We don't get many interesting visitors here at the
ranch, but this one was certainly welcome, even if he was in airspace normally
reserved for Kolbs. Wish I'd happened to be up in the Kolb instead of the dump
truck - then I'd of had a camera, too. One of those things that makes you
proud to be a U.S. American. I guess the enormous weight of the shuttle kept them
from flying higher. Anyway I was glad for the show.
M. Domenic Perez
Vaughn, NM
FS II, 503
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| Subject: | Ultrastar inspection |
0.29 FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From": contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Hello Fellow aviators.
I believe i found me a Kolb bird.Its an ultrastar.
I would like to know what to look for when i am
inspecting the plane i e connectors,cables,tears in
material...Is there any special things i need to make
sure to check??Please any ideas and recomendations are
welcome.
Thanks alot!
Mitty
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| Subject: | Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I can sell you a Twinstar with a Hirth 2703 engine which has been mostly
trouble free or a Mk 3 kit with a 582. I am 200 miles south of Toronto near
Windsor. I was the first Kolb dealer ever but have not sold any for 20
years. It sounded like a good idea at the time and Kolb wanted a Canadian
source for their kits but that fizzled and I do not believe Kolb now has any
dealers. I have maintained an interest in Kolbs, owned 3, helped build an
additional 3 have one waiting to be built and a Kit 2 to do something with
in the future.and there are 4 Kolbs currently based at my airstrip.You will
not go wrong with a Kolb kit. Go by the plans and keep personal
modifications to a minimum and you will be fine. Do not give a moments worry
about it being a tail dragger.
>
> Dear Kolb Group,
> Just joined this group, I don't own an ultralight yet but I am in the
> process of finding one. The Mark lll XTRA is what I have in mind. Do any
> of you know if there is a Kolb dealer in Canada, specifically in Montreal
or
> Toronto or that general vicinity.
>
> Your help would be greatly appriciated.
>
> Josh Lazar
> Montreal, Canada
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Fredricks" <flyingfox@copper.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My 172
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
>
> Send him my way.
>
> Thanks, Todd
>
>
> On 8/21/05 2:36 AM, "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
> >
> > Todd
> > I have a friend with a Skyboy who wants a 172. 70 hours and well
> > equipped. 912S engine. Herb
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:33:23 -0400 Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
> > writes:
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks
> >> <flyingfox@copper.net>
> >>
> >> All of you Kolbers out there, if you know of anyone looking for a
> >> 1960s 172,
> >> selling mine is what stands between me and a Mark IIIX so if you
> >> hear of
> >> anyone interested in such a beast, send them my way.
> >>
> >> Todd Fredricks
> >> Athens, OH
> >>
> >>
> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bing Enrichment Piston |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
In a message dated 8/17/2005 1:34:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
Bill...
Sorry I didn't make that as clear as I could have....
The rubber squeeze bulb with by-pass loop remains in place... The piston
pump primer which squirts gas into
the side of the carb via that little one-eighth inch line was removed from
the Fly.
Beauford and Others that wrote about this subject,
Thanks for all the input. Lots of good pros and cons. Should help one to
make a decision. Personally, I'm still mulling it over. Maybe I'll install the
primer for a try just to see how it works for me. Was always a little
concerned about the extra plumbing of 1/8 tubing being a problem area.
Again, thanks to all for the good info.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Lockwood's Diagnosis |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
We had a Pennzoil corp rep at a safety seminar a couple years, he brought
up the same thing warning not to use automotive fuel line with two-cycle
premix that the mixture causes the fuel line to delaminate. He stated
marine fuel line intended for two stroke premix use was OK for use.
jerb
At 03:37 PM 8/14/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/12/2005 9:15:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
>
> > Got a warning about black automotive fuel lines... don't use them with
> > pre-mix. They are fine for straight gas,
> > but swell up and delaminate internally when exposed to oil in the gas.
> >
> >
>
>Hi Beauford, I have been running the auto fuel lines for a few months with
>not problem but I see their point. Marine brand black fuel lines are used
>with
>premix all the time for years. I wonder how they differ from auto type if at
>all.
>
>Steve
>
>
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| Subject: | New web page address |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
I have a new web page address for "The Flight Adventures of the Kolbra".
http://kolbrapilot.ab.funpic.org/
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 913 hours
http://kolbrapilot.ab.funpic.org/
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| Subject: | St. Clair's Bottom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Had a most excellent flight this afternoon, and thought I'd share the high
lights.
About 50 miles north east of Kingsport, Tennessee is the little town of
Chilhowie, Virginia, right on I-81, and about 6 miles south of there, right
where the creek loops back on itself is a place called Saint Clair's
Bottom. During WWII, the guv'ment put in a grass strip about 2500' long as
an emergency field for airplanes traveling through the area. Back in the
50's, Virginia decided they needed an airport in that area, and planned to
turn St. Clair's Bottom into a real airport. Unfortunately, word got out,
and the land that was selling for $3 an acre jumped up to $3000 an acre,
and Virginia looked elsewhere. That resulted in the Mountain Empire
Airport, up near Marion.
So the grass strip languished, until about 6 years ago, when a bunch of
ultralighters started keeping their craft there and fixing the place up.
Three years ago, they figured out that it would be a good public relations
ploy to have an annual picnic and invite the locals around the area to come
and eat free, and look at all the little airplanes.
So today after church, Kolb's 20P and 82EF headed NE into the best flying
weather we have had here all summer. Blue sky, a few little puffies,
friendly thermals, and good food waiting at the destination. By the time we
got there, the burgers were gone, but I had a 'mater sandwich on light
bread, (there's just two things that money can't buy, and that's true love
and home grown tomatoes...) baked beans done with brown sugar, chicken n'
dumplings, cold macaroni salad and the last best piece of carrot cake with
sour cream icing. By then I was ready for a nap, but there were too many
airplanes to look at, and too many friends to talk to.
Some old fella with a beard down to his navel and a red and white Kolb
Twinstar MKII was giving kids rides, he flew for two hours straight, and
the kids loved it. There was a Hatz doing barrel rolls and hammer heads, a
sure-nuff aerobatic expert in a Citabria wearing it out, and about a
hundred and fifty people watching little airplanes, teenage boys watching
girls, teenage girls pretending they weren't watching boys, old men and
women sitting in the shade and trying to keep cool, and drinking from the
never ending supply of iced tea. There was even a do-it-yourself Bluegrass
band on the porch providing entertainment (?) or something. It was great.
About 6 PM, it had cooled off a lot so the two Kolbs and the Aircam set off
down the valley picking out various winding and interesting looking back
roads to take the next motorcycle ride on. Got to South Holston Lake and
flew down the lake about 100' up, all the girls on jet skis waved, and we
rocked a wing or two.
Landed at South Fork, the Aircam's home strip and looked at the
under-construction-CGS Hawk, it will have an HKS engine on it. Ought to be
done next month, looks like it will make a fine airplane. Discussed the
price of gas, and wondered how the Aircam would do with two HKS 700E's on
it in place of it's two 582's, since the 582's are approaching TBO. Decided
that it would probably do fairly well. First get the Hawk flying, and get a
better appreciation of the HKS.
Headed home about 7:30, by then it was cool and smooth as glass. Got home
and actually made a decent landing for a change. Nice. Decided that it only
takes one day of good weather and a good flight to make you forget about
all the crummy ones you had for the rest of the summer.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | looking for a Mark lll XTRA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Josh Lazar" <josh@filterco.qc.ca>
Hi Woody,
Thanks for your advise and encouragement. With your experience, I could
no-doubt learn a great deal from you.
The Mk 3 kit with the 582 sounds right for me. What are you asking for it.
I could possibly take a drive to meet you and take a look at the kit.
Josh Lazar
Future owner of a Mk 3
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of woody
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: looking for a Mark lll XTRA
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I can sell you a Twinstar with a Hirth 2703 engine which has been mostly
trouble free or a Mk 3 kit with a 582. I am 200 miles south of Toronto near
Windsor. I was the first Kolb dealer ever but have not sold any for 20
years. It sounded like a good idea at the time and Kolb wanted a Canadian
source for their kits but that fizzled and I do not believe Kolb now has any
dealers. I have maintained an interest in Kolbs, owned 3, helped build an
additional 3 have one waiting to be built and a Kit 2 to do something with
in the future.and there are 4 Kolbs currently based at my airstrip.You will
not go wrong with a Kolb kit. Go by the plans and keep personal
modifications to a minimum and you will be fine. Do not give a moments worry
about it being a tail dragger.
>
> Dear Kolb Group,
> Just joined this group, I don't own an ultralight yet but I am in the
> process of finding one. The Mark lll XTRA is what I have in mind. Do any
> of you know if there is a Kolb dealer in Canada, specifically in Montreal
or
> Toronto or that general vicinity.
>
> Your help would be greatly appriciated.
>
> Josh Lazar
> Montreal, Canada
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