Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/22/05


Total Messages Posted: 31



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:38 AM - Re: Space Shuttle Piggyback (PATRICK LADD)
     2. 05:41 AM - Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA (woody)
     3. 07:16 AM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     4. 08:24 AM - Website Update (John Williamson)
     5. 08:44 AM - Re: Website Update (Wayne T. McCullough)
     6. 09:38 AM - Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA (Josh Lazar)
     7. 10:02 AM - SMLA (Herb Gayheart)
     8. 10:16 AM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (russ kinne)
     9. 10:46 AM - Re: Website Update (John Williamson)
    10. 10:49 AM - Re: SMLA (John Williamson)
    11. 11:14 AM - Re: SMLA (John Cooley)
    12. 11:37 AM - Re: SMLA (Herb Gayheart)
    13. 11:41 AM - Re: SMLA (Herb Gayheart)
    14. 11:44 AM - Re: SMLA (John Cooley)
    15. 12:20 PM - Firefly Flat Tire (Gene D. Ledbetter)
    16. 01:06 PM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (Jim Ballenger)
    17. 01:15 PM - Re: Space Shuttle Piggyback (Jim Ballenger)
    18. 04:26 PM - Re: My 172 (Herb Gayheart)
    19. 04:30 PM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
    20. 04:38 PM - Re: Firefly Flat Tire (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
    21. 04:49 PM - Re: My 172 (Herb Gayheart)
    22. 05:31 PM - Fuel Tank Connection (LEE CREECH)
    23. 06:12 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (Ralph)
    24. 06:53 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (Richard Swiderski)
    25. 07:11 PM - Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 (George E. Myers Jr.)
    26. 07:40 PM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (woody)
    27. 08:19 PM - Re: Firefly Flat Tire (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    28. 08:21 PM - A new Kolber is born. (Denny Rowe)
    29. 08:28 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (HShack@aol.com)
    30. 08:57 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    31. 09:28 PM - Worn jets (Richard Pike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:38:53 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Piggyback
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Wish I'd happened to be up in the Kolb>> Hi Dominic, what a thrill. Piggy back planes are not an everyday site. Planes seen from another plane are really special. I was in my Challenger one evening at about 1500 feet when a Spitfire cruised across my nose at the same height on its way to a local show. One of the most beautiful sights I shall ever see. Talking piggy backs, when I was a kid I saw the Maia and Mercury combination. Maia was a flying boat and she took off with the Mercury which was a seaplane in a cradle above the wing. The Mercury was then able to then start flying on to its desination with full fuel tanks. Designed primarily as transatlantic mail carrier I think. In- flight refuelling was way in the future in those days. Cheers Pat --


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    Time: 05:41:19 AM PST US
    From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: looking for a Mark lll XTRA
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> HI Josh I will have to check the prices because I had not even thought of selling the kit untill a spur of the moment thing last night. It will probably be in the range of a new kit from the factory but in canadian funds converting the money at par. $100 US = 100 Can. In other words more than 1/3 less than a new factory kit and no import fees. > Hi Woody, > Thanks for your advise and encouragement. With your experience, I could > no-doubt learn a great deal from you. > The Mk 3 kit with the 582 sounds right for me. What are you asking for it. > I could possibly take a drive to meet you and take a look at the kit. > > > Josh Lazar > Future owner of a Mk 3


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    Time: 07:16:46 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: St. Clair's Bottom
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> YESSSSS, YESSSS, YESSSSS.....Now that's what I call a great day. Thanks for sharing. AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> Subject: Kolb-List: St. Clair's Bottom > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > Had a most excellent flight this afternoon, and thought I'd share the high > lights. > > About 50 miles north east of Kingsport, Tennessee is the little town of > Chilhowie, Virginia, right on I-81, and about 6 miles south of there, > right > where the creek loops back on itself is a place called Saint Clair's > Bottom. During WWII, the guv'ment put in a grass strip about 2500' long as > an emergency field for airplanes traveling through the area. Back in the > 50's, Virginia decided they needed an airport in that area, and planned to > turn St. Clair's Bottom into a real airport. Unfortunately, word got out, > and the land that was selling for $3 an acre jumped up to $3000 an acre, > and Virginia looked elsewhere. That resulted in the Mountain Empire > Airport, up near Marion. > > So the grass strip languished, until about 6 years ago, when a bunch of > ultralighters started keeping their craft there and fixing the place up. > Three years ago, they figured out that it would be a good public relations > ploy to have an annual picnic and invite the locals around the area to > come > and eat free, and look at all the little airplanes. > > So today after church, Kolb's 20P and 82EF headed NE into the best flying > weather we have had here all summer. Blue sky, a few little puffies, > friendly thermals, and good food waiting at the destination. By the time > we > got there, the burgers were gone, but I had a 'mater sandwich on light > bread, (there's just two things that money can't buy, and that's true love > and home grown tomatoes...) baked beans done with brown sugar, chicken n' > dumplings, cold macaroni salad and the last best piece of carrot cake with > sour cream icing. By then I was ready for a nap, but there were too many > airplanes to look at, and too many friends to talk to. > > Some old fella with a beard down to his navel and a red and white Kolb > Twinstar MKII was giving kids rides, he flew for two hours straight, and > the kids loved it. There was a Hatz doing barrel rolls and hammer heads, a > sure-nuff aerobatic expert in a Citabria wearing it out, and about a > hundred and fifty people watching little airplanes, teenage boys watching > girls, teenage girls pretending they weren't watching boys, old men and > women sitting in the shade and trying to keep cool, and drinking from the > never ending supply of iced tea. There was even a do-it-yourself Bluegrass > band on the porch providing entertainment (?) or something. It was great. > > About 6 PM, it had cooled off a lot so the two Kolbs and the Aircam set > off > down the valley picking out various winding and interesting looking back > roads to take the next motorcycle ride on. Got to South Holston Lake and > flew down the lake about 100' up, all the girls on jet skis waved, and we > rocked a wing or two. > > Landed at South Fork, the Aircam's home strip and looked at the > under-construction-CGS Hawk, it will have an HKS engine on it. Ought to be > done next month, looks like it will make a fine airplane. Discussed the > price of gas, and wondered how the Aircam would do with two HKS 700E's on > it in place of it's two 582's, since the 582's are approaching TBO. > Decided > that it would probably do fairly well. First get the Hawk flying, and get > a > better appreciation of the HKS. > > Headed home about 7:30, by then it was cool and smooth as glass. Got home > and actually made a decent landing for a change. Nice. Decided that it > only > takes one day of good weather and a good flight to make you forget about > all the crummy ones you had for the rest of the summer. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 08:24:56 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
    Subject: Website Update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> Having major problems with website. As of now, the Kolbra Pilot website is off the web. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 913 hours kolbrapilot2@comcast.net do not archive


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    Time: 08:44:05 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Website Update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net> John, Are we still able to get the new website.... Wayne McCullough ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Website Update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> > > Having major problems with website. > > As of now, the Kolbra Pilot website is off the web. > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 913 hours > kolbrapilot2@comcast.net > > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 09:38:36 AM PST US
    From: "Josh Lazar" <josh@filterco.qc.ca>
    Subject: looking for a Mark lll XTRA
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Josh Lazar" <josh@filterco.qc.ca> Hi Woody, Sounds good. Has this kit been started or is still in original packaging? Let me know if you decide to sell. Best Regards, Josh Lazar Cell: 514-233-3251 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woody Subject: Re: Kolb-List: looking for a Mark lll XTRA --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> HI Josh I will have to check the prices because I had not even thought of selling the kit untill a spur of the moment thing last night. It will probably be in the range of a new kit from the factory but in canadian funds converting the money at par. $100 US = 100 Can. In other words more than 1/3 less than a new factory kit and no import fees. > Hi Woody, > Thanks for your advise and encouragement. With your experience, I could > no-doubt learn a great deal from you. > The Mk 3 kit with the 582 sounds right for me. What are you asking for it. > I could possibly take a drive to meet you and take a look at the kit. > > > Josh Lazar > Future owner of a Mk 3


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    Time: 10:02:33 AM PST US
    Subject: SMLA
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> I need the phone for South Miss Light Aircraft. I cannot access their web page. It loads multiple times. Herb in Ky do not archive


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    Time: 10:16:31 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: St. Clair's Bottom
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> Sounds like St. Claire has a lovely bottom! do not archive On Aug 22, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" > <pelletier@cableone.net> > > YESSSSS, YESSSS, YESSSSS.....Now that's what I call a great day. > Thanks for > sharing. > > AzDave > > Do Not Archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: St. Clair's Bottom > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> >> >> Had a most excellent flight this afternoon, and thought I'd share the >> high >> lights. >> >> About 50 miles north east of Kingsport, Tennessee is the little town >> of >> Chilhowie, Virginia, right on I-81, and about 6 miles south of there, >> right >> where the creek loops back on itself is a place called Saint Clair's >> Bottom. During WWII, the guv'ment put in a grass strip about 2500' >> long as >> an emergency field for airplanes traveling through the area. Back in >> the >> 50's, Virginia decided they needed an airport in that area, and >> planned to >> turn St. Clair's Bottom into a real airport. Unfortunately, word got >> out, >> and the land that was selling for $3 an acre jumped up to $3000 an >> acre, >> and Virginia looked elsewhere. That resulted in the Mountain Empire >> Airport, up near Marion. >> >> So the grass strip languished, until about 6 years ago, when a bunch >> of >> ultralighters started keeping their craft there and fixing the place >> up. >> Three years ago, they figured out that it would be a good public >> relations >> ploy to have an annual picnic and invite the locals around the area to >> come >> and eat free, and look at all the little airplanes. >> >> So today after church, Kolb's 20P and 82EF headed NE into the best >> flying >> weather we have had here all summer. Blue sky, a few little puffies, >> friendly thermals, and good food waiting at the destination. By the >> time >> we >> got there, the burgers were gone, but I had a 'mater sandwich on light >> bread, (there's just two things that money can't buy, and that's true >> love >> and home grown tomatoes...) baked beans done with brown sugar, >> chicken n' >> dumplings, cold macaroni salad and the last best piece of carrot cake >> with >> sour cream icing. By then I was ready for a nap, but there were too >> many >> airplanes to look at, and too many friends to talk to. >> >> Some old fella with a beard down to his navel and a red and white Kolb >> Twinstar MKII was giving kids rides, he flew for two hours straight, >> and >> the kids loved it. There was a Hatz doing barrel rolls and hammer >> heads, a >> sure-nuff aerobatic expert in a Citabria wearing it out, and about a >> hundred and fifty people watching little airplanes, teenage boys >> watching >> girls, teenage girls pretending they weren't watching boys, old men >> and >> women sitting in the shade and trying to keep cool, and drinking from >> the >> never ending supply of iced tea. There was even a do-it-yourself >> Bluegrass >> band on the porch providing entertainment (?) or something. It was >> great. >> >> About 6 PM, it had cooled off a lot so the two Kolbs and the Aircam >> set >> off >> down the valley picking out various winding and interesting looking >> back >> roads to take the next motorcycle ride on. Got to South Holston Lake >> and >> flew down the lake about 100' up, all the girls on jet skis waved, >> and we >> rocked a wing or two. >> >> Landed at South Fork, the Aircam's home strip and looked at the >> under-construction-CGS Hawk, it will have an HKS engine on it. Ought >> to be >> done next month, looks like it will make a fine airplane. Discussed >> the >> price of gas, and wondered how the Aircam would do with two HKS >> 700E's on >> it in place of it's two 582's, since the 582's are approaching TBO. >> Decided >> that it would probably do fairly well. First get the Hawk flying, and >> get >> a >> better appreciation of the HKS. >> >> Headed home about 7:30, by then it was cool and smooth as glass. Got >> home >> and actually made a decent landing for a change. Nice. Decided that it >> only >> takes one day of good weather and a good flight to make you forget >> about >> all the crummy ones you had for the rest of the summer. >> >> Richard Pike >> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> >> do not archive >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:46:32 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
    Subject: Website Update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> >>>Are we still able to get the new website.... >>>Wayne McCullough Nope. It's all offline. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 913 hours kolbrapilot@comcast.net


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    Time: 10:49:59 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
    Subject: SMLA
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> Herb, Try this: South Mississippi Light Aircraft 1279 Marshall Smith Rd. Lucedale, MS 39452 800-247-7652 601-947-4953 John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 913 hours kolbrapilot2@comcast.net


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    Time: 11:14:23 AM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
    Subject: SMLA
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Herb, It is 601-947-4953. I think they have an 800 number but it is not in the local phone book. Do not archive John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Gayheart Subject: Kolb-List: SMLA --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> I need the phone for South Miss Light Aircraft. I cannot access their web page. It loads multiple times. Herb in Ky do not archive -- --


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    Time: 11:37:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: SMLA
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> John I dug it out with Google. That Ronnie Smith is one nice fella! Thanks Herb ps anyone else having trouble with their web site? do not archive On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:49:46 -0500 "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> > > Herb, > > Try this: > > South Mississippi Light Aircraft > 1279 Marshall Smith Rd. > Lucedale, MS 39452 > > 800-247-7652 > 601-947-4953 > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > >


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    Time: 11:41:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: SMLA
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Both John's ---thanks.. Ronnie is sending me the spring. Herb do not archive On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:14:13 -0500 "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> > > Herb, > It is 601-947-4953. I think they have an 800 number but it is not in > the > local phone book. >


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    Time: 11:44:38 AM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
    Subject: SMLA
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Sorry guys and gals, I jumped the gun and didnt look to see that John Williamson had already replied. Do not archive John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cooley Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SMLA --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Herb, It is 601-947-4953. I think they have an 800 number but it is not in the local phone book. Do not archive John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Gayheart Subject: Kolb-List: SMLA --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> I need the phone for South Miss Light Aircraft. I cannot access their web page. It loads multiple times. Herb in Ky do not archive -- -- -- --


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    Time: 12:20:58 PM PST US
    From: "Gene D. Ledbetter" <gdledbetter@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Firefly Flat Tire
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter" <gdledbetter@earthlink.net> To All, Since I moved my Firefly to Owensville, KY last year, it's been fairly normal to fly back to Waynesville where I used to have a hangar and meet with friends there. A couple of weeks ago, I flew there first and then over to Middletown, OH where you can park less than a block from a Frisch's restaurant for lunch. Middletown has both paved and separate sod runways. After landing on the sod runway which had rather tall grass, it became obvious that I had developed a flat tire on the left gear. Since I had replaced the original tires with Turf Saver tractor tires less than two years ago, I was able to taxi about a quarter mile and parked for lunch. Doing lunch gave an opportunity to debate what to do with the flat tire situation. Since I had been able to taxi a fairly long distance with the flat tire, I decided to let the air out of the other tire and use the paved runway for takeoff. That solution worked perfectly. I flew directly home and landed without incident. I ordered two new tubes from Lockwood and was surprised to find that the flat was caused by a complete failure of one of the tube joints on my Taiwan manufactured tube. The joint opened up for almost 3 inches. The lesson here is to not be surprised if you have an unexpected flat tire with Taiwan originated tires and tubes since you might remember that I replaced the original tires and tubes almost two years ago when the right tire had a blowout and split both the tube and tire!!. Does anyone have suggestions where I might find suitable tubes with the right angle valve stem for our little airplanes since I really don't trust the Taiwan manufactured product after two failures within two years. By the way Beauford, my major problem this summer has been EGTs that are too cool. With the pin in the lowest possible position, I've been running below 1000 most of the time and as low as 900 in real hot and muggy weather. The clip is also in the correct position. The good news is we are finally having cooler weather and I will fly to Waynesville tomorrow plus a visit to Middletown for lunch. If weather forecast is good, I might even fly to the homecoming in September. It's only 150 miles from my base according to my GPS.... I have completed 305 hours on the 447 and it is running so well that I really hate to do anything with it. What are the thoughts of 447 maintenance at 300 hours? Gene Ledbetter Cincinnati, OH Firefly, 447, 305 hrs


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    Time: 01:06:12 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
    Subject: Re: St. Clair's Bottom
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net> Richard Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you had a perfect ultralight day. Jim Ballenger Selling a FS KXP 447 Flying a MK III X 582 DO NO ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> Subject: Kolb-List: St. Clair's Bottom > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > Had a most excellent flight this afternoon, and thought I'd share the high > lights. > > About 50 miles north east of Kingsport, Tennessee is the little town of > Chilhowie, Virginia, right on I-81, and about 6 miles south of there, > right > where the creek loops back on itself is a place called Saint Clair's > Bottom. During WWII, the guv'ment put in a grass strip about 2500' long as > an emergency field for airplanes traveling through the area. Back in the > 50's, Virginia decided they needed an airport in that area, and planned to > turn St. Clair's Bottom into a real airport. Unfortunately, word got out, > and the land that was selling for $3 an acre jumped up to $3000 an acre, > and Virginia looked elsewhere. That resulted in the Mountain Empire > Airport, up near Marion. > > So the grass strip languished, until about 6 years ago, when a bunch of > ultralighters started keeping their craft there and fixing the place up. > Three years ago, they figured out that it would be a good public relations > ploy to have an annual picnic and invite the locals around the area to > come > and eat free, and look at all the little airplanes. > > So today after church, Kolb's 20P and 82EF headed NE into the best flying > weather we have had here all summer. Blue sky, a few little puffies, > friendly thermals, and good food waiting at the destination. By the time > we > got there, the burgers were gone, but I had a 'mater sandwich on light > bread, (there's just two things that money can't buy, and that's true love > and home grown tomatoes...) baked beans done with brown sugar, chicken n' > dumplings, cold macaroni salad and the last best piece of carrot cake with > sour cream icing. By then I was ready for a nap, but there were too many > airplanes to look at, and too many friends to talk to. > > Some old fella with a beard down to his navel and a red and white Kolb > Twinstar MKII was giving kids rides, he flew for two hours straight, and > the kids loved it. There was a Hatz doing barrel rolls and hammer heads, a > sure-nuff aerobatic expert in a Citabria wearing it out, and about a > hundred and fifty people watching little airplanes, teenage boys watching > girls, teenage girls pretending they weren't watching boys, old men and > women sitting in the shade and trying to keep cool, and drinking from the > never ending supply of iced tea. There was even a do-it-yourself Bluegrass > band on the porch providing entertainment (?) or something. It was great. > > About 6 PM, it had cooled off a lot so the two Kolbs and the Aircam set > off > down the valley picking out various winding and interesting looking back > roads to take the next motorcycle ride on. Got to South Holston Lake and > flew down the lake about 100' up, all the girls on jet skis waved, and we > rocked a wing or two. > > Landed at South Fork, the Aircam's home strip and looked at the > under-construction-CGS Hawk, it will have an HKS engine on it. Ought to be > done next month, looks like it will make a fine airplane. Discussed the > price of gas, and wondered how the Aircam would do with two HKS 700E's on > it in place of it's two 582's, since the 582's are approaching TBO. > Decided > that it would probably do fairly well. First get the Hawk flying, and get > a > better appreciation of the HKS. > > Headed home about 7:30, by then it was cool and smooth as glass. Got home > and actually made a decent landing for a change. Nice. Decided that it > only > takes one day of good weather and a good flight to make you forget about > all the crummy ones you had for the rest of the summer. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 01:15:30 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
    Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Piggyback
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net> Domenic Lucky you. I was raised in the southeast corner of New Mexico and remember how blue that sky is. I am sure that was a beautiful sight. Jim Ballenger Selling a FS KXP 447 Flying a MK III X 582 Virgina Beach, VA DO NO ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Space Shuttle Piggyback > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez" > <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net> > > Kolbers, > Probably a once in a lifetime sight here in the middle of New Mexico > two days ago. My brother calls me from my west and says there is an > interesting aircraft that just went over him going west to east. I jump > out of the dump truck and look up and at about 3000-3500 AGL is the space > shuttle piggyback on its 747 headed back to Canaveral. We don't get many > interesting visitors here at the ranch, but this one was certainly > welcome, even if he was in airspace normally reserved for Kolbs. Wish I'd > happened to be up in the Kolb instead of the dump truck - then I'd of had > a camera, too. One of those things that makes you proud to be a U.S. > American. I guess the enormous weight of the shuttle kept them from flying > higher. Anyway I was glad for the show. > > M. Domenic Perez > Vaughn, NM > FS II, 503 > > Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 04:26:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: My 172
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Todd Tony is now on line. tw172@netscape.com Herb On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:48:47 -0400 Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks > <flyingfox@copper.net> > > Send him my way. > > Thanks, Todd > >


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    Time: 04:30:39 PM PST US
    From: Cat36Fly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com Thanks to all who responded to my delima. Today I attacked the fairing with a Dremel tool and a mind set that it would fit or I would destroy it (bad attitude). After much marking and cutting, marking and grinding and more of the same, it is close. I may have to do some fibre glass work after the windscreen ( for our English friends) is installed but it's a start. Next the nose bowl ( I'm all aquiver with anticipation). The response I did not get from anyone is the style BRS being used on the MKlllX. Anyone? Also, has any other Kolb builder/owner from Delaware ever shown up on this site? We are a small state but there ought to at least one other. Thanks again Larry


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    Time: 04:38:37 PM PST US
    From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
    Subject: Firefly Flat Tire
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net> Gene: One thing you may want to check is the needle jet. I had a similar condition to the one you described and nothing (of the traditional adjustments) that I did helped. Finally took a look at the needle jet and found the opening/aperture was enlarged. My assumption was/is that it had been enlarged over time by the needle. Engine (Single carb, points, R503) had about 325 hours at the time. With the new needle jet and the clip, needle, main all set back to specs resulted in cruising temp around 1050-1100. Couldn't get above 875-925 before. Fun, Safe Flying! George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gene D. Ledbetter Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly Flat Tire --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter" <gdledbetter@earthlink.net> To All, <<<SNIP>>>> By the way Beauford, my major problem this summer has been EGTs that are too cool. With the pin in the lowest possible position, I've been running below 1000 most of the time and as low as 900 in real hot and muggy weather. The clip is also in the correct position. The good news is we are finally having cooler weather and I will fly to Waynesville tomorrow plus a visit to Middletown for lunch. If weather forecast is good, I might even fly to the homecoming in September. It's only 150 miles from my base according to my GPS.... I have completed 305 hours on the 447 and it is running so well that I really hate to do anything with it. What are the thoughts of 447 maintenance at 300 hours? Gene Ledbetter Cincinnati, OH Firefly, 447, 305 hrs


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    Time: 04:49:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: My 172
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> As in woops!! Meant that to Todd only! Getting old! Herb do not archive On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:22:47 -0500 Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> > > Todd > > Tony is now on line. tw172@netscape.com > > Herb > > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:48:47 -0400 Todd Fredricks > <flyingfox@copper.net> > writes: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks > > <flyingfox@copper.net> > > > > Send him my way. > > > > Thanks, Todd > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:31:42 PM PST US
    From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Connection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com> Can anyone offer any tips on making the connection at the bottom of 5-gallon plastic fuel tanks? I've got the tanks, rubber grommets and metal fittings, but was a bit surprised to see that it all appears to be just a press fit -- no real provision for tightening or securing it. Is there any trick to getting a secure and leak-proof connection? Any experience-based tips will be appreciated. Thanks, Lee (Firestar II) http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 06:12:18 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Connection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com> Lee, that's all there is to it. Try not to have any burrs in the hole and if there are, clean them off before pushing in the rubber grommet. Don't make the hole any larger. Mine hasn't leaked in 18 years and I just replaced the tank after all this time. Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it -- \"LEE CREECH\" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "LEE CREECH" Can anyone offer any tips on making the connection at the bottom of 5-gallon plastic fuel tanks? I've got the tanks, rubber grommets and metal fittings, but was a bit surprised to see that it all appears to be just a press fit -- no real provision for tightening or securing it. Is there any trick to getting a secure and leak-proof connection? Any experience-based tips will be appreciated. Thanks, Lee (Firestar II) http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Lee, that's all there is to it. Try not to have any burrs in the hole and if there are, clean them off before pushing in the rubber grommet. Don't make the hole any larger.Minehasn'tleaked in18 years and I just replaced the tank after all this time. Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it --\"LEECREECH\"<DCREECH3@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote: --Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"LEECREECH"<DCREECH3@HOTMAIL.COM> Cananyoneofferanytipsonmakingtheconnectionatthebottomof5-gallon plasticfueltanks?I'vegotthetanks,rubbergrommetsandmetalfittings, butwasabitsurprisedtoseethatitallappearstobejustapressfit-- norealprovisionfortighteningorsecuringit.Isthereanytrickto gettingasecureandleak-proofconnection?Anyexperience-basedtipswill b eappreciated. Thanks, Lee (FirestarII) http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ _


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    Time: 06:53:36 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Connection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net> Lee, You could install from top & use a drop tube for a pickup as per other Kolb installs. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tank Connection --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com> Lee, that's all there is to it. Try not to have any burrs in the hole and if there are, clean them off before pushing in the rubber grommet. Don't make the hole any larger. Mine hasn't leaked in 18 years and I just replaced the tank after all this time. Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it -- \"LEE CREECH\" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "LEE CREECH" Can anyone offer any tips on making the connection at the bottom of 5-gallon plastic fuel tanks? I've got the tanks, rubber grommets and metal fittings, but was a bit surprised to see that it all appears to be just a press fit -- no real provision for tightening or securing it. Is there any trick to getting a secure and leak-proof connection? Any experience-based tips will be appreciated. Thanks, Lee (Firestar II) http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Lee, that's all there is to it. Try not to have any burrs in the hole and if there are, clean them off before pushing in the rubber grommet. Don't make the hole any larger.Minehasn'tleaked in18 years and I just replaced the tank after all this time. Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it --\"LEECREECH\"<DCREECH3@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote: --Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"LEECREECH"<DCREECH3@HOTMAIL.COM> Cananyoneofferanytipsonmakingtheconnectionatthebottomof5-gallon plasticfueltanks?I'vegotthetanks,rubbergrommetsandmetalfittings, butwasabitsurprisedtoseethatitallappearstobejustapressfit-- norealprovisionfortighteningorsecuringit.Isthereanytrickto gettingasecureandleak-proofconnection?Anyexperience-basedtipswill b eappreciated. Thanks, Lee (FirestarII) http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ _


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    Time: 07:11:58 PM PST US
    From: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net>
    Subject: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net> Could some of you guys using synthetic oil tell me what your normal plug color is. Thanks George --


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    Time: 07:40:57 PM PST US
    From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: St. Clair's Bottom
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> > > > Sounds like St. Claire has a lovely bottom! > do not archive Be carefull that was my mothers name. Do not archive.


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    Time: 08:19:45 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Firefly Flat Tire
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com that's kinda weird I just installed new tires and wheels and I had the same problem A Flat tire only third day of using them and it turned out to be made in Taiwan also does anyone in America make the tubes we need? or have all the foreign countries got the monopoly on tubes also Ellery in Maine Original Firestar plus do not archive


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    Time: 08:21:22 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: A new Kolber is born.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> Kolb group, I want to welcome Mike Schnabel also, known as "Tenn Metfan" to the world of Kolb ownership. Mike is the new owner of Jesse and Mary Lib Saxions Firestar II and trailer. He is a real Gentleman and I am glad to see Jesse's bird going to a good guy like Mike. I spent the day with Mike and Mary Lib today helping to prepare the plane and trailer for the long trip back to TN and hopefully Mike is well on his way by now. He plans to spend the winter going over the bird and also has to complete his hanger and home before he is ready to commit aviation, it sounds like Mike has a real nice new place nearly ready for him and his new aircraft. Thanks to everyone who expressed interest in the aircraft and trailer and here is hoping you all find the Kolb you are seeking, they really are fantastic aircraft. Denny Rowe Mk-3 N616DR, 2SI 690L-70, Leechburg PA


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    Time: 08:28:58 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Connection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 8/22/2005 8:32:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, dcreech3@hotmail.com writes: Can anyone offer any tips on making the connection at the bottom of 5-gallon plastic fuel tanks? I've got the tanks, rubber grommets and metal fittings, but was a bit surprised to see that it all appears to be just a press fit -- no real provision for tightening or securing it. Is there any trick to getting a secure and leak-proof connection? Any experience-based tips will be appreciated. Thanks, Lee (Firestar II] I don't like the idea of having holes in the bottom of my gas tanks, so I just drilled a hole in the top of both tanks just a little smaller than the OD of my fuel line & stuck it down to the bottom of the tank[s]. I made a "clunk" [like used on RC planes] out of a brass 1/4" barb & some small brass pipe with a bunch of small holes drilled in it. It will filter out all but the smallest chunks of debris & the holes in the clunk are above the bottom of thre tank by 1/4" or so, therefore, will not pick up any water from the bottom of the tank. The clunk actually rests on the bottom of the tank & can move about to allow for when I'm climbing or descending. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 08:57:24 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Connection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Drill the correct size hole push the rubber piece in then push the Fitting in and your done, but make sure you drill the hole the correct size and it will not leak or fall out the fitting should have came with instructions on what size hole to drill I cant remember what size it is but its a tight fit if it goes together easy you drilled the hole to big if you cant find out what size it is I will make a definate measurment for you and let you know Do not archive Ellery in Maine


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    Time: 09:28:33 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Worn jets
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Changed thread title - Years ago, my 277 w/Bing got running rich and wouldn't hold a throttle setting, started hunting and being obnoxious. Similar situation, except that the jet needle had worn it self slightly slimmer where it went into the jet. Always running at roughly the same throttle setting will eventually wear either or both to the point that the mixture will subtly change. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 07:39 PM 8/22/05 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." ><gtalexander@att.net> > >Gene: > >One thing you may want to check is the needle jet. I had a similar >condition to the one you described and nothing (of the traditional >adjustments) that I did helped. Finally took a look at the needle jet and >found the opening/aperture was enlarged. My assumption was/is that it had >been enlarged over time by the needle. Engine (Single carb, points, R503) >had about 325 hours at the time. With the new needle jet and the clip, >needle, main all set back to specs resulted in cruising temp around >1050-1100. Couldn't get above 875-925 before. > >Fun, Safe Flying! > >George Alexander >http://gtalexander.home.att.net > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gene D. >Ledbetter >To: List Kolb >Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly Flat Tire > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter" ><gdledbetter@earthlink.net> > >To All, > ><<<SNIP>>>> > >By the way Beauford, my major problem this summer has been EGTs that >are too cool. With the pin in the lowest possible position, I've >been running below 1000 most of the time and as low as 900 in real >hot and muggy weather. The clip is also in the correct position. >The good news is we are finally having cooler weather and I will fly >to Waynesville tomorrow plus a visit to Middletown for lunch. If >weather forecast is good, I might even fly to the homecoming in >September. It's only 150 miles from my base according to my GPS.... >I have completed 305 hours on the 447 and it is running so well that >I really hate to do anything with it. What are the thoughts of 447 >maintenance at 300 hours? > >Gene Ledbetter >Cincinnati, OH >Firefly, 447, 305 hrs > >




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