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1. 08:39 AM - Kolb Flyer Twin (ray anderson)
2. 12:47 PM - Re: Wing Gap Seal & BRS (James, Ken)
3. 03:26 PM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (Bob N.)
4. 04:15 PM - Re: Kolb Flyer Twin (woody)
5. 04:47 PM - Re: St. Clair's Bottom (Mitty)
6. 05:04 PM - Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 (Ralph)
7. 05:52 PM - Kolb-List Dare to dream :-) (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
8. 06:20 PM - Re: Firefly Flat Tire (James Tripp)
9. 06:24 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (LEE CREECH)
10. 07:11 PM - Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 (Dan Charter)
11. 08:06 PM - Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 (Mitty)
12. 08:39 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (HShack@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
There's a Kolb Flyer with twin Solo's and enclosed trailer for $5500.00 on BARNSTORMERS.
Don't run over each other running to buy it.
UltraStar, Tennesee
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Wing Gap Seal & BRS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Go to the BRS site they have the proper sizing for the Extra and the
attachment drawings as a pdf.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Cat36Fly@aol.com [mailto:Cat36Fly@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Gap Seal & BRS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Thanks to all who responded to my delima.
Today I attacked the fairing with a Dremel tool and a mind set that it
would
fit or I would destroy it (bad attitude). After much marking and cutting,
marking and grinding and more of the same, it is close. I may have to do
some
fibre glass work after the windscreen ( for our English friends) is
installed
but it's a start. Next the nose bowl ( I'm all aquiver with anticipation).
The response I did not get from anyone is the style BRS being used on the
MKlllX. Anyone?
Also, has any other Kolb builder/owner from Delaware ever shown up on this
site? We are a small state but there ought to at least one other.
Thanks again
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: St. Clair's Bottom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Richard/all,
A couple of years ago I collaborated on a book: Virginia Airports--A
Historical Survey of Airports and Aviation from the Earliest Days (pub.
Virginia Aeronautical Historical Society.) One of my efforts was the
location and tabulation of all known airports/landing fields...more than
160 in all. Listed on pg. 53: "Chilhowie Airport, 8.2 mi SE of
Chilhowie. This was CAA Site #29B built as an emergency landing field.
Shown on March 1945 chart as an open, private-commercial field." And on
pg. 209 there is an aerial photo of Chilhowie.
Also "Chilhowie-White Oak (3 mi. W) private."
Glad you had such a good, old-time outing at one of Virginia's "flying fields."
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Flyer Twin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I'd kind of want to buy it. With the trailer it may be a fair price.
Unfortunately I have too many toys and have to hold back a bit. I would
rather have a Flyer than a Quicksilver or Challenger. do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Flyer Twin
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
> There's a Kolb Flyer with twin Solo's and enclosed trailer for $5500.00 on
BARNSTORMERS. Don't run over each other running to buy it.
>
> UltraStar, Tennesee
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: St. Clair's Bottom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Outta love it!Ultralighting rulez!
--- Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net>
wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve
> Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> YESSSSS, YESSSS, YESSSSS.....Now that's what I call
> a great day. Thanks for
> sharing.
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: St. Clair's Bottom
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> <richard@bcchapel.org>
> >
> > Had a most excellent flight this afternoon, and
> thought I'd share the high
> > lights.
> >
> > About 50 miles north east of Kingsport, Tennessee
> is the little town of
> > Chilhowie, Virginia, right on I-81, and about 6
> miles south of there,
> > right
> > where the creek loops back on itself is a place
> called Saint Clair's
> > Bottom. During WWII, the guv'ment put in a grass
> strip about 2500' long as
> > an emergency field for airplanes traveling through
> the area. Back in the
> > 50's, Virginia decided they needed an airport in
> that area, and planned to
> > turn St. Clair's Bottom into a real airport.
> Unfortunately, word got out,
> > and the land that was selling for $3 an acre
> jumped up to $3000 an acre,
> > and Virginia looked elsewhere. That resulted in
> the Mountain Empire
> > Airport, up near Marion.
> >
> > So the grass strip languished, until about 6 years
> ago, when a bunch of
> > ultralighters started keeping their craft there
> and fixing the place up.
> > Three years ago, they figured out that it would be
> a good public relations
> > ploy to have an annual picnic and invite the
> locals around the area to
> > come
> > and eat free, and look at all the little
> airplanes.
> >
> > So today after church, Kolb's 20P and 82EF headed
> NE into the best flying
> > weather we have had here all summer. Blue sky, a
> few little puffies,
> > friendly thermals, and good food waiting at the
> destination. By the time
> > we
> > got there, the burgers were gone, but I had a
> 'mater sandwich on light
> > bread, (there's just two things that money can't
> buy, and that's true love
> > and home grown tomatoes...) baked beans done with
> brown sugar, chicken n'
> > dumplings, cold macaroni salad and the last best
> piece of carrot cake with
> > sour cream icing. By then I was ready for a nap,
> but there were too many
> > airplanes to look at, and too many friends to talk
> to.
> >
> > Some old fella with a beard down to his navel and
> a red and white Kolb
> > Twinstar MKII was giving kids rides, he flew for
> two hours straight, and
> > the kids loved it. There was a Hatz doing barrel
> rolls and hammer heads, a
> > sure-nuff aerobatic expert in a Citabria wearing
> it out, and about a
> > hundred and fifty people watching little
> airplanes, teenage boys watching
> > girls, teenage girls pretending they weren't
> watching boys, old men and
> > women sitting in the shade and trying to keep
> cool, and drinking from the
> > never ending supply of iced tea. There was even a
> do-it-yourself Bluegrass
> > band on the porch providing entertainment (?) or
> something. It was great.
> >
> > About 6 PM, it had cooled off a lot so the two
> Kolbs and the Aircam set
> > off
> > down the valley picking out various winding and
> interesting looking back
> > roads to take the next motorcycle ride on. Got to
> South Holston Lake and
> > flew down the lake about 100' up, all the girls on
> jet skis waved, and we
> > rocked a wing or two.
> >
> > Landed at South Fork, the Aircam's home strip and
> looked at the
> > under-construction-CGS Hawk, it will have an HKS
> engine on it. Ought to be
> > done next month, looks like it will make a fine
> airplane. Discussed the
> > price of gas, and wondered how the Aircam would do
> with two HKS 700E's on
> > it in place of it's two 582's, since the 582's are
> approaching TBO.
> > Decided
> > that it would probably do fairly well. First get
> the Hawk flying, and get
> > a
> > better appreciation of the HKS.
> >
> > Headed home about 7:30, by then it was cool and
> smooth as glass. Got home
> > and actually made a decent landing for a change.
> Nice. Decided that it
> > only
> > takes one day of good weather and a good flight to
> make you forget about
> > all the crummy ones you had for the rest of the
> summer.
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color of my spark plugs (the middle
post) are a light tan and it is lighter with less carbon than one using mineral
oil like Pennzoil. I change them annually and when I take them out, they look
good enough to go another year. The rim of the plug is black and this is normal
no matter what type of oil is used.
Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
-- \"George E. Myers Jr.\" wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr."
Could some of you guys using synthetic oil tell me what your normal
plug color is.
Thanks
George
--
George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color ofmy spark plugs(the middle post)are
a light tan and itis lighter with less carbonthan one using mineral oil
like Pennzoil. I change them annually and when I take them out, they look good
enough to go another year. The rim of the plug is black and this is normal
no matter what type of oil is used.
Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
--\"GeorgeE.MyersJr.\"<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>wrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"GeorgeE.MyersJr."<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>
Couldsomeofyouguysusingsyntheticoiltellmewhatyournormal
plugcoloris.
Thanks
George
--
hmore:
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| Subject: | Kolb-List Dare to dream :-) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
What if money were No Object ...
Slingshot With Titanium frame
Gas turbine engine
Unbreakable low drag Gear ...
Oh well got to get a roof on the hanger and find a good Tig welder in north
Florida and buy some Dual in Kolb ... (anyone near Lake City or Tampa ?)
...Dave
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| Subject: | Firefly Flat Tire |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Gene,
It would be great to see you finally fly to the homecoming instead of
driving. After four years of homecomings, I was beginning to wonder if you
really had a plane. Hope you see you and the plane at the homecoming.
James Tripp, FSII
Millbrook AL
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene D. Ledbetter
Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly Flat Tire
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene D. Ledbetter"
<gdledbetter@earthlink.net>
The good news is we are finally having cooler weather and I will fly
to Waynesville tomorrow plus a visit to Middletown for lunch. If
weather forecast is good, I might even fly to the homecoming in
September. It's only 150 miles from my base according to my GPS....
I have completed 305 hours on the 447 and it is running so well that
I really hate to do anything with it. What are the thoughts of 447
maintenance at 300 hours?
Gene Ledbetter
Cincinnati, OH
Firefly, 447, 305 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com>
Putting it in the top seems like such an obvious improvement that there must
be some reason it was originally (on my airplane) done the other way. Could
it be that it doesn't allow the two tanks to crossfeed, so that you can't be
sure of getting all the fuel out of both? Or something else I've not
thought of?
Thanks,
Lee in Ky
>From: HShack@aol.com
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tank Connection
>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:28:39 EDT
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/22/2005 8:32:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>dcreech3@hotmail.com writes:
>Can anyone offer any tips on making the connection at the bottom of
>5-gallon
>plastic fuel tanks? I've got the tanks, rubber grommets and metal
>fittings,
>but was a bit surprised to see that it all appears to be just a press fit
>--
>no real provision for tightening or securing it. Is there any trick to
>getting a secure and leak-proof connection? Any experience-based tips will
>be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Lee
>(Firestar II]
>
>
>I don't like the idea of having holes in the bottom of my gas tanks, so I
>just drilled a hole in the top of both tanks just a little smaller than the
>OD of
>my fuel line & stuck it down to the bottom of the tank[s].
>
>I made a "clunk" [like used on RC planes] out of a brass 1/4" barb & some
>small brass pipe with a bunch of small holes drilled in it. It will filter
>out
>all but the smallest chunks of debris & the holes in the clunk are above
>the
>bottom of thre tank by 1/4" or so, therefore, will not pick up any water
>from
>the bottom of the tank. The clunk actually rests on the bottom of the tank
>&
>can move about to allow for when I'm climbing or descending.
>
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
Hi Ralph, How long have you been using Klotz? Is there a problem with a
little gas left over with Pennzoil in the tank if I try that brand. I'll
never get my tank completely empty. Do not archive
Dan Charter
2 years on original Firestar
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
>
> George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color of my spark plugs (the
middle post) are a light tan and it is lighter with less carbon than one
using mineral oil like Pennzoil. I change them annually and when I take them
out, they look good enough to go another year. The rim of the plug is black
and this is normal no matter what type of oil is used.
> Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
>
>
> -- \"George E. Myers Jr.\" wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr."
>
> Could some of you guys using synthetic oil tell me what your normal
> plug color is.
> Thanks
> George
>
>
> --
>
>
> George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color ofmy spark plugs(the
middle post)are a light tan and itis lighter with less carbonthan one using
mineral oil like Pennzoil. I change them annually and when I take them out,
they look good enough to go another year. The rim of the plug is black and
this is normal no matter what type of oil is used.
>
>
> Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
>
>
> --\"GeorgeE.MyersJr.\"<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>wrote:
> --Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"GeorgeE.MyersJr."<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>
>
> Couldsomeofyouguysusingsyntheticoiltellmewhatyournormal
> plugcoloris.
> Thanks
> George
>
>
> --
>
>
> hmore:
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Dan ,
I used clotz oil but not in ultralights.In model
airplane fuel.There we have to mix oil with alcohol
and only clotz lin of oils and castor will mix
throughly with methanol.What i am saying about is
those little engines run 10-12.000 rpm and never
degummed or decarbonned.I happened to have 5 y.o
engine that i took apart and it has VERY little
carbon.
The idea is that it suppose to burn throughly.Benol
oil is nothing but a degummed castor which has it's
pros and cons.
KL100 is mix of about 20 % castor 80 synthetic oil.
Not to hijacking the thread but castor oil do benefit
two strokes( at least model engines) because it leave
little varnish on the cylinder walls which protect
engine in case of lean runs.Now again it might not
apply to gas two strokes but i dont see why not. Klotz
is kinda expencive though. 6 oz can might run you $9
But then again its not that high
do not archive
--- Dan Charter <lndc@fnbcnet.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter"
> <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
>
> Hi Ralph, How long have you been using Klotz? Is
> there a problem with a
> little gas left over with Pennzoil in the tank if I
> try that brand. I'll
> never get my tank completely empty. Do not archive
> Dan Charter
> 2 years on original Firestar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Synthetic Oil Plug Color on
> 503
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph"
> <ul15rhb@juno.com>
> >
> > George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color
> of my spark plugs (the
> middle post) are a light tan and it is lighter with
> less carbon than one
> using mineral oil like Pennzoil. I change them
> annually and when I take them
> out, they look good enough to go another year. The
> rim of the plug is black
> and this is normal no matter what type of oil is
> used.
> > Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
> >
> >
> > -- \"George E. Myers Jr.\" wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers
> Jr."
> >
> > Could some of you guys using synthetic oil tell me
> what your normal
> > plug color is.
> > Thanks
> > George
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > George, I use Klotz synthetic 50:1 mix. The color
> ofmy spark plugs(the
> middle post)are a light tan and itis lighter with
> less carbonthan one using
> mineral oil like Pennzoil. I change them annually
> and when I take them out,
> they look good enough to go another year. The rim of
> the plug is black and
> this is normal no matter what type of oil is used.
> >
> >
> > Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
> >
> >
> > --\"GeorgeE.MyersJr.\"<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>wrote:
> >
>
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"GeorgeE.MyersJr."<GMYERS@CORRIDOR.NET>
> >
> >
>
Couldsomeofyouguysusingsyntheticoiltellmewhatyournormal
> > plugcoloris.
> > Thanks
> > George
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > hmore:
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 8/23/2005 9:25:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dcreech3@hotmail.com writes:
Putting it in the top seems like such an obvious improvement that there must
be some reason it was originally (on my airplane) done the other way. Could
it be that it doesn't allow the two tanks to crossfeed, so that you can't be
sure of getting all the fuel out of both? Or something else I've not
thought of?
Thanks,
Lee in Ky
There is no downside. They still cross-feed. They won't leak out of the
bottom.
Over 500 hours this way- no problems.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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