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1. 04:20 AM - Re: WOODY-Dick (Kirk Smith)
2. 11:35 AM - Re: Mk111 questions (Charles Blackwell)
3. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Mk111 questions (Jeremy Casey)
4. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Mk111 questions? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
5. 12:51 PM - Re: Re: Mk111 questions? (robert bean)
6. 01:03 PM - (Chris Mallory)
7. 01:31 PM - New to this site.. (G Buck)
8. 06:02 PM - Re: New to this site.. (Denny Rowe)
9. 06:06 PM - Pictures from last Sunday's fly-in (Ralph)
10. 07:19 PM - Re: Pictures from last Sunday's fly-in (Beauford)
11. 07:19 PM - For Sale ...... (artdog1512)
12. 07:28 PM - Change of E-Mail Address (bicum@aol.com)
13. 07:45 PM - Re: New to this site.. (Flycrazy8@AOL.COM)
14. 09:21 PM - Re: New to this site.. (Beauford)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Glad you were not hurt worse Woody. Isn't this the second engine stoppage
and resultant crash on that Jabiru engine?
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| Subject: | Re: Mk111 questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
Dave,
Wish I could remember where I read it so I could give them
credit and double check the facts, but military surplus 912's may not be a
great bargain. Seems like the story said that they are run harder than
normal, and not maintained for longevity because someone else picks up the
replacement cost. Even after a rebuild some of the remaining parts are too
worn to be a bargain. Some of the bearings and surfaces can not be replaced
during a rebuild. Maybe someone with more knowledge can fill in the blanks
here about what pieces can't be restored to like new condition during a
rebuild. If you do choose to buy one, then make sure of the extent of the
rebuild and maintenance done before you receive it. That can help you
decide on what it is worth or not worth.
Charlie, MKII in NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Mk111 questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Most come out of the Predator UAV and being a tightly cowled engine
system that was asked to work harder and harder as the gadgets were
added to the plane and it got heavier and heavier. MANY of them have
been run too hot and the heads warp...not even good for a
paperweight...yea you can true the mating surfaces and reinstall but the
bolts won't hold torque anymore, and things just aren't "right"...
All this is second hand information, never actually laid my eyes on one
myself...but was passed on to me from someone knowledgable of the
subject. I DO KNOW that the Predators were all upgraded to 914 engines,
for the power/weight reasons mentioned earlier...
Jeremy Casey
<snip>
Dave,
Wish I could remember where I read it so I could give them
credit and double check the facts, but military surplus 912's may not be
a
great bargain. Seems like the story said that they are run harder than
normal, and not maintained for longevity because someone else picks up
the
replacement cost. Even after a rebuild some of the remaining parts are
too
worn to be a bargain. Some of the bearings and surfaces can not be
replaced
during a rebuild. Maybe someone with more knowledge can fill in the
blanks
here about what pieces can't be restored to like new condition during a
rebuild. If you do choose to buy one, then make sure of the extent of
the
rebuild and maintenance done before you receive it. That can help you
decide on what it is worth or not worth.
Charlie, MKII in NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Mk111 questions? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
I see no one has tried to answer the handling question so I will attempt to.
First I have never flown one with faperons. Generally speaking you have more
flap power (drag) with classic flaps than flaperons. I don't think there is
any reduction in roll authority with flaperons but the Kolbs with flaporons
have a shorter cord in the area were the ailerons are most effective. Most
people that have a choice will choose to have the classic flaps.
Maybe someone that has flown both will add their experience
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: <DCulver701@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mk111 questions?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com
>
> What are the differences in handling between a plane with flaperons and
> the
> classic,s flaps? Also does anyone have an opinion on the 912 engine
> offered
> with fuel injection versus the twin carbs? I've seen it advertised as
> older
> military 912 engines rebuilt at a certified Rotax repair service. Their
> $10 k
> asking price isn't that far away from a new one, but curious anyway. Also
> wondering about the seat cushions offered in the brochure, they don't look
> to
> comfortable, or well made from the picture, but pictures can be deceiving.
> Tia,
> best regards. Dave Culver
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk111 questions? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Another alternative would be to extend the wing in the flap area
and eliminate them entirely. You would then have a nice clean
high lift area with no extra mechanisms, gap seals and other
bothersome trivia. To each his own, but I like flying without a
bunch of lever pulling, switch flipping, radio bullcrap, navigation
aids,
etc, etc. -just lovin' the air flowing past my ears.
-BB, happy with what I have.
On 31, Aug 2005, at 3:23 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
>
> I see no one has tried to answer the handling question so I will
> attempt to.
> First I have never flown one with faperons. Generally speaking you
> have more
> flap power (drag) with classic flaps than flaperons. I don't think
> there is
> any reduction in roll authority with flaperons but the Kolbs with
> flaporons
> have a shorter cord in the area were the ailerons are most effective.
> Most
> people that have a choice will choose to have the classic flaps.
>
> Maybe someone that has flown both will add their experience
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DCulver701@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mk111 questions?
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com
>>
>> What are the differences in handling between a plane with flaperons
>> and
>> the
>> classic,s flaps? Also does anyone have an opinion on the 912 engine
>> offered
>> with fuel injection versus the twin carbs? I've seen it advertised as
>> older
>> military 912 engines rebuilt at a certified Rotax repair service.
>> Their
>> $10 k
>> asking price isn't that far away from a new one, but curious anyway.
>> Also
>> wondering about the seat cushions offered in the brochure, they don't
>> look
>> to
>> comfortable, or well made from the picture, but pictures can be
>> deceiving.
>> Tia,
>> best regards. Dave Culver
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Does anyone have some good plans for an "in flight" elevator trim system for
a Firestar II ?
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| Subject: | New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: G Buck <sgtbuck8@yahoo.com>
Hi Everyone
I have been reading this list for the past few months. I have a Kolb 1989 Firestar. I just completed over 15 hours in the air with an instructor and should be solo in my Kolb very soon. I am in the San Diego area and I am a member of the San Diego ultralight as. I am the only one in the club with a Kolb at this time. Anyway I just wanted to say hi and thank you all for the great advise in your emails. Here are some pic of my plane.. http://profiles.yahoo.com/sgtbuck8
Galen in San Diego
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| Subject: | Re: New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Welcome aboard!
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
PS: Nice bird, keep us posted on how your first flight goes.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "G Buck" <sgtbuck8@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: New to this site..
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: G Buck <sgtbuck8@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> I have been reading this list for the past few months. I have a Kolb 1989
> Firestar. I just completed over 15 hours in the air with an instructor and
> should be solo in my Kolb very soon. I am in the San Diego area and I am a
> member of the San Diego ultralight as. I am the only one in the club with
> a Kolb at this time. Anyway I just wanted to say hi and thank you all for
> the great advise in your emails. Here are some pic of my plane..
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/sgtbuck8
>
> Galen in San Diego
>
>
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Pictures from last Sunday's fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Guys, here are some pictures from the local fly-in we had last Sunday.
http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album.php
Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
Guys, here are some pictures from the local fly-in we had last Sunday.
http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album.php
Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Pictures from last Sunday's fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Great stuff, Ralph....!
What a beautiful strip...and obviously a perfect day.... Thanks!
Beauford
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Pictures from last Sunday's fly-in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
>
> Guys, here are some pictures from the local fly-in we had last Sunday.
> http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album.php
> Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
>
>
> Guys, here are some pictures from the local fly-in we had last Sunday.
>
>
> http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album.php
>
>
> Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
For Sale -
1998 Kolb FireFly. BRS softpack, 447, 125
hours TT... $7000 with trailer (not
enclosed)Shrewsbury,Pa. .... tim
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| Subject: | Change of E-Mail Address |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bicum@aol.com
Hello list,
Just wanted to let everyone know of the change of e-mail address:
gearbender@bellsouth.net
Had a great visit with Gary Haley this past weekend. Took notes on some the improvements/mods
he has made.
Hope to get started very soon on my plane. Hope to be flying again in a couple
of months.
Plan to build a website on new field, rebuild and mods. May help others in same
situation. I'll be bugging the list and some of you individually for pointers
and recommendations. Some of you have found the best methods through trial
and error. Hope you won't mind if I skip the trial and error part and just steal
your good ideas.
Stay safe, make good decisions every flight.
Thanks,
John Bickham
St. Francisville, LA
Kolb Mark IIIC/912
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| Subject: | Re: New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Flycrazy8@aol.com
In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:07:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sgtbuck8@yahoo.com writes:
http://profiles.yahoo.com/sgtbuck8
Welcome to the Gang/Club/Kolb/List..sgt. Galen Buck
Always glad to have another Kolber to sat by the camp fire.
Nice LQQKing Firestar U Got.
Stephen Bax
Firefly 447
Pansey, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Brother Buck...
Welcome to whatever this is... You're gonna love it here...
Handsome Kolb airplane you have there. I hope that over time you can learn
to develop the same sort of
deep and personal bond with your machine that I have come to enjoy with mine
over these past few months...
especially the Rotax part... Say, that looks like a 447 you have installed
there on yours...utterly fascinating contrivance, the 447...
Last thing I think of each night, the 447... I count them to get to sleep...
in my little fantasy, they are flying around
in a circle and I am tied to the ground spread-eagle, completely naked
except for the VISA card clenched in my teeth.
Each 447 that passes over me gets slightly lower than the one before,
seeking to be the first to grab the VISA..
When one does, they all fly several more laps, taking care to bury me under
great globs of Pennzoil Air Cooled oily carbon. After I'm totally slimed in
the stuff, the one with the VISA breaks the circle and they all fly off in
trail formation up the nearby hill into the gate of the Lockwood castle,
which closes behind them as they enter... I'm usually about asleep at that
point.
But, I bore you with this 447 talk... I'm sure you'll come soon enough to
explore each and every aspect of the many unique features if this remarkable
powerplant. From your snapshots, looks like you have a nice open sandy area
in which to get the feel of 2-stroking.... Perfect. just keep your speed
up...
Regards,
Beauford
FF #076
Brandon, FL
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----- Original Message -----
From: "G Buck" <sgtbuck8@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: New to this site..
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: G Buck <sgtbuck8@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> I have been reading this list for the past few months. I have a Kolb 1989
> Firestar. I just completed over 15 hours in the air with an instructor and
> should be solo in my Kolb very soon. I am in the San Diego area and I am a
> member of the San Diego ultralight as. I am the only one in the club with
> a Kolb at this time. Anyway I just wanted to say hi and thank you all for
> the great advise in your emails. Here are some pic of my plane..
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/sgtbuck8
>
> Galen in San Diego
>
>
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>
>
>
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