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1. 02:44 AM - Re: leaving this group (Carl Trollope)
2. 03:51 AM - Cuyuna tool (Edward Steuber)
3. 04:10 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (PATRICK LADD)
4. 04:10 AM - Re: WOODY-Dick (PATRICK LADD)
5. 04:49 AM - Re: New to this site.. (GeoR38@aol.com)
6. 06:57 AM - Re: WOODY-Dick (ray anderson)
7. 07:10 AM - Re: Weght and Balance (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 07:42 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 08:09 AM - Re: New to this site.. (PENGUIN)
10. 10:24 AM - windscreen trim (Christopher Armstrong)
11. 12:04 PM - Re: leaving this group (PATRICK LADD)
12. 12:51 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Connection (PATRICK LADD)
13. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Mk111 questions? (DCulver701@AOL.COM)
14. 04:04 PM - Re: (James Tripp)
15. 04:45 PM - Re: (Chris Mallory)
16. 05:48 PM - From Jackson,MS (Mitty)
17. 05:53 PM - Re: windscreen trim (Ralph)
18. 06:25 PM - Re: For Sale ...... (Denny Rowe)
19. 06:52 PM - Re: (Richard Pike)
20. 08:28 PM - Re: From Jackson,MS (Chuck Stonex)
21. 11:51 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
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| Subject: | : Kolb-List:leaving this group |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
I am leaving this group as I no longer have a Kolb...
An unfortunate incident lead to my Kolb sustaining damage to cage and
boom...
No problem I thought .... just order the spares from the states....
Great idea, the factory were great with advice and help but then Kolb put me
in touch with the UK importer......
Well.....
After a deafening silence of many months I have unfortunately decided that I
can wait no longer...
So I have now ordered a Skyranger....whose importer seems to offer an
excellent service..
So if anyone wants a set of wings and tailplanes etc for a Kolb MkIII......
Carl
How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Anyone know where I can get a genuine Cuyuna flywheel puller or one that works
on a UL202. ? ?..the last time was a real problem with the improvised stuff I
have. Those things are really on there !
Ed in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
plumb my fuel supply from the bottom of the tank>>
Hi John,
What works, works I suppose. I just don`t like holes below the waterline as
a general principle.
My Challenger has been flying since 1990 with a top of the tank takeout with
the feed pipe about an inch or so above the bottom. There is no water trap
or provision for removing water and I have only emptied the tank a couole of
times to dump the remains of old fuel.
I hope Hauks Hollow is OK. We are getting horrendous pics and stories
following Katrina. Hope all the Kolbers are OK.
Looks as though shooting a few looters might be a good idea, particularly as
they seem to be looting gunshops etc., rather than the food shops for which
they may have some excuse.
All the best
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I have proven the strength of Homer and Denis' design. >>
Hi Woody,
Congratulations on `getting away with it` even in a slightly battered
condition. Seems that you did all the right things within the area of which
you had control.
I should be very interested in your weight and balance figures when you get
to that stage. My Xtra with the Jabi is really causing some head scratching.
The weight and balance and CG figures just don`t add up. The tail is so
heavy it is difficult to lift.
Anyone else with an Extra plus Jabi I would be grateful for some advice
here.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 8/31/2005 7:07:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sgtbuck8@yahoo.com writes:
Hi Everyone
I have been reading this list for the past few months. I have a Kolb 1989
Firestar. I just completed over 15 hours in the air with an instructor and should
be solo in my Kolb very soon. I am in the San Diego area and I am a member of
the San Diego ultralight as. I am the only one in the club with a Kolb at
this time. Anyway I just wanted to say hi and thank you all for the great advise
in your emails. Here are some pic of my plane..
http://profiles.yahoo.com/sgtbuck8
Galen in San Diego
welcome aboard Galen....you got a goodun, fella.
George Randolph
Firestar driver in The Villages Fla
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
The weight and balance and CG figures just don`t add up. The tail is so
heavy it is difficult to lift.
Pat,
Just an uncalled for comment. You've got a big problem it seems. Sharpen your pencil
or fire up the handheld computer. Tell us what you ultimately find, but
I believe it would stay grounded until I found it.
PATRICK LADD <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK
LADD"
I have proven the strength of Homer and Denis' design. >>
Hi Woody,
Congratulations on `getting away with it` even in a slightly battered
condition. Seems that you did all the right things within the area of which
you had control.
I should be very interested in your weight and balance figures when you get
to that stage. My Xtra with the Jabi is really causing some head scratching.
The weight and balance and CG figures just don`t add up. The tail is so
heavy it is difficult to lift.
Anyone else with an Extra plus Jabi I would be grateful for some advice
here.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Weght and Balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Patrick
What doesn't add up? The calculations are a bit confusing but do add up. I
don't have a Xtra or a Jabi but I do have a VW on my MKIIIc and it can cause
weight and balance issues if not compensated for. What are your figures?
Just saying the tail is heavy to lift is kind of subjective.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: WOODY-Dick
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
>
> I should be very interested in your weight and balance figures when you
> get
> to that stage. My Xtra with the Jabi is really causing some head
> scratching.
> The weight and balance and CG figures just don`t add up. The tail is so
> heavy it is difficult to lift.
> Anyone else with an Extra plus Jabi I would be grateful for some advice
> here.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
Patrick
I also have the fuel connections on the bottom of my tanks as recommended by
the plans.. They have severed me well with never a leak. Last year I changed
my tanks for new ones and haven't had any leaks in the new ones either.
Why would anyone build a fuel system trying to have more unusable fuel. Most
of us try to build our airplanes as light as possible. If you are concerned
about fuel contamination (as you should be) follow standard aircraft
practices. Put finger screens in the tank leading to all feed lines, then
plum the system directly to a gascolator (with a drain valve) at the bottom
of your fuel system then plum the fuel line to a filter. I have a gascolator
at the bottom of my fuselage behind the passenger seat with the drain valve
sticking out the side of the fuselage just ahead of the gear leg. When I
preflight I always drain out a fuel sample. Any water or any other
contamination trapped in the gascolator gets drained before every flight.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tank Connection
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> plumb my fuel supply from the bottom of the tank>>
>
> Hi John,
>
> What works, works I suppose. I just don`t like holes below the waterline
> as
> a general principle.
> My Challenger has been flying since 1990 with a top of the tank takeout
> with
> the feed pipe about an inch or so above the bottom. There is no water trap
> or provision for removing water and I have only emptied the tank a couole
> of
> times to dump the remains of old fuel.
>
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| Subject: | Re: New to this site.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: PENGUIN <pengy@humboldt.net>
Beauford wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>Brother Buck...
>Welcome to whatever this is... You're gonna love it here...
>
>Handsome Kolb airplane you have there. I hope that over time you can learn
>to develop the same sort of
>deep and personal bond with your machine that I have come to enjoy with mine
>over these past few months...
>especially the Rotax part... Say, that looks like a 447 you have installed
>there on yours...utterly fascinating contrivance, the 447...
>
>
Another Beauford howler that had me laughing before breakfast.
Should be archived...
Penguin
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Anybody ever tried this windscreen trim used in motorcycles... might be
useful for the short windscreens. They also have little windscreen bits
called wings, and winglets that stick on the edge of the windscreen to
extend it a bit. Kind of interesting.
http://www.saeng.com/4000.htm
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:leaving this group |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I am leaving this group as I no longer have a Kolb..>>
Hi Carl,
It would be nice to have a chat with you.
Contact me at pj.ladd@btinternet.com
Cheers
Pat.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Connection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
<>
Hi Rick,
sounds as though you have really covered yourself with your system. `Copper
bottomed, brazed and rivetted we would say.
I just followed the Challenger plans. With a system with which you can drain
accumulated water from the bottom of the tank then taking fuel from the
bottom makes sense.
With no such drainage system it makes sense to let the water accumulate
where it cannot get into the feed pipe.
Thanks for the comments
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Mk111 questions? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com
Thanks Rick & B.B. for your response to flap vs. flaperon handling question.
Hopefully i'll get a response from someone who has flown both, & can give a
bipartisan answer. Rick, i see you are using an V.W. engine on your MK111. Is
that the aero-vee engine sonex uses with their own aerovee carb. I was quite
impressed with the technology with that engine, along with the low initial
cost & low overhaul cost. How does the v.w compare with the Rotax on speed &
fuel consumption, matching same size engines? Also did you have any problem
mounting the engine. I presume it doesn't have a gearbox, so its performance
should be close to the Jab? I'm going to try to make the factory fly in, but
not quite sure of our schedule yet on our vacation return trip from Wis back
to N.J. So i'm hoping to meet some of you Kolbers and see the planes in person
instead of on the video & brochures. Tia, best regards. My prayers go out
to hurricane victims> Dave Culver
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Chris,
If you need down trim, the simplest trim system is to hook a bungee from
your control stick to the floor pan in front of the rudder peddles. For trim
down, slide the bungee up the control stick which will pull the stick
forward as the bungee get higher. It works very well on my FS.
James Tripp, FSII
Millbrook AL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mallory
Subject: Kolb-List:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Does anyone have some good plans for an "in flight" elevator trim system for
a Firestar II ?
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
James,
Thanks for the information. My problem however, is the opposite. I need to
trim the nose up ... any ideas?
Thanks Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Chris,
> If you need down trim, the simplest trim system is to hook a bungee from
> your control stick to the floor pan in front of the rudder peddles. For
> trim
> down, slide the bungee up the control stick which will pull the stick
> forward as the bungee get higher. It works very well on my FS.
>
> James Tripp, FSII
> Millbrook AL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mallory
> To: Kolb List
> Subject: Kolb-List:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Does anyone have some good plans for an "in flight" elevator trim system
> for
>
> a Firestar II ?
>
>
>
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0.29 FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS From": contains.an.underline.and.numbers/letters@roxy.matronics.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
I just got home from gas hunting..No luck.I have about
1.5 - 2 gallons left in my bike.That will be enough
for two more trips to work and back .Then i'll buy me
a shwinn bike. :-/
Now there is a NUMBER of great folks.Everyone except
those few bastards luders(spell) are holding up
together.Helping out each other.Companies open doors
for people.Distributing ice and drinking water for
free..The only problem is that we have no gas around
here to drive and take chance for it.However we are
here are high spirited.We got through the storm with
minimal damage here .Got power back so we re cool.No
water or gas is ok...Hopefully soon we'll get some.
Now In new orleans few folks (watching here on TV) are
screaming "take us out,WE WANT OUT" Then walmart
burgluries.Heared on radio they were breaking in
hospitals looking for drugs.Hell here on CNN i saw a
dude running with about three dozens of fishing
poles.Those assholes(excuse my french) were warned and
asked to move out.Instread they chosen to ride it
out.Then they chose to break in the stores and steal
stuff even if they don't really need 6 pairs of jeans
or riding lawnmower(sae on CNN boy pushing it out of
store)
Then they choose to shoot up the helicopter that was
rescuing folks.
Then they acuse government because it's easier to
blame uncle sam then do something for your own good.
It's just a type of people.Makes me sick and
disgusted.Let me tell you,I saw a tramendous help from
government and other folks.People helping each other
and this is a bottom line.We'll get through it only
working together.Now acusing sam or each other.
Peace out...
Shaken but not stirred,
Mitty
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| Subject: | Re: windscreen trim |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Topher,
This is a lot lighter and better. You have seen it at Osceola. The annual Osceola
WI fly-in is on the 10th, by the way. See you there!
http://tinyurl.com/8q6e4Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
-- "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Anybody ever tried this windscreen trim used in motorcycles... might be
useful for the short windscreens. They also have little windscreen bits
called wings, and winglets that stick on the edge of the windscreen to
extend it a bit. Kind of interesting.
http://www.saeng.com/4000.htm
do not archive
Topher,
This is a lot lighter and better. You have seen it at Osceola. The annual Osceola
WI fly-in is onthe 10th, by the way. See you there!
http://tinyurl.com/8q6e4
Ralph, Original Firestar, 18 years flying it
--"ChristopherArmstrong"tophera@centurytel.netwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"ChristopherArmstrong"tophera@centurytel.net
Anybodyevertriedthiswindscreentrimusedinmotorcycles...mightbe
usefulfortheshortwindscreens.Theyalsohavelittlewindscreenbits
calledwings,andwingletsthatstickontheedgeofthewindscreento
extenditabit.Kindofinteresting.
http://www.saeng.com/4000.htm
donotarchive
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| Subject: | Re: For Sale ...... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Tim,
Sorry to see you are selling the Fly.
How are things on your end?
This has been a Kolb free summer as I have been over whelmed with building
my hanger and other difficultys at home.
The hanger should be buttened up for next Spring and I hope to be back in
action by then.
Take Care.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "artdog1512" <nazz57@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: For Sale ......
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
>
>
> For Sale -
> 1998 Kolb FireFly. BRS softpack, 447, 125
> hours TT... $7000 with trailer (not
> enclosed)Shrewsbury,Pa. .... tim
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
If you need to trim the nose up, adjust the aileron rods and raise the
trailing edge of the ailerons until it flies like you want it. Kolbs are
very responsive to the position of the ailerons. Reflexing them (trailing
edge up) trims them out nose high & makes them act tail heavy, trailing
edge of the ailerons lower makes them act nose heavier. Works every time.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:40 PM 9/1/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>James,
>Thanks for the information. My problem however, is the opposite. I need to
>trim the nose up ... any ideas?
>
>Thanks Chris
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex@msn.com>
Thanks for sharing Mitty. I saw simular problems after Hurricane Charley.
People working against each other instead of working together for a common
solution and unity.
Chuck Stonex
Des Moines IA
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
I just got home from gas hunting..No luck.I have about
1.5 - 2 gallons left in my bike.That will be enough
for two more trips to work and back .Then i'll buy me
a shwinn bike. :-/
Now there is a NUMBER of great folks.Everyone except
those few bastards luders(spell) are holding up
together.Helping out each other.Companies open doors
for people.Distributing ice and drinking water for
free..The only problem is that we have no gas around
here to drive and take chance for it.However we are
here are high spirited.We got through the storm with
minimal damage here .Got power back so we re cool.No
water or gas is ok...Hopefully soon we'll get some.
Now In new orleans few folks (watching here on TV) are
screaming "take us out,WE WANT OUT" Then walmart
burgluries.Heared on radio they were breaking in
hospitals looking for drugs.Hell here on CNN i saw a
dude running with about three dozens of fishing
poles.Those assholes(excuse my french) were warned and
asked to move out.Instread they chosen to ride it
out.Then they chose to break in the stores and steal
stuff even if they don't really need 6 pairs of jeans
or riding lawnmower(sae on CNN boy pushing it out of
store)
Then they choose to shoot up the helicopter that was
rescuing folks.
Then they acuse government because it's easier to
blame uncle sam then do something for your own good.
It's just a type of people.Makes me sick and
disgusted.Let me tell you,I saw a tramendous help from
government and other folks.People helping each other
and this is a bottom line.We'll get through it only
working together.Now acusing sam or each other.
Peace out...
Shaken but not stirred,
Mitty
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DNA: do not archive
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