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1. 12:51 AM - Re: leaving this group (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
2. 02:16 AM - Re: UL crash video (PATRICK LADD)
3. 02:22 AM - Re: Re: Re: UL crash video (PATRICK LADD)
4. 02:31 AM - Re: Cows & Kolbs (PATRICK LADD)
5. 05:54 AM - Re: Geo engine (Rusty)
6. 05:59 AM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (James, Ken)
7. 08:15 AM - (David Kulp)
8. 01:21 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (Jim Ballenger)
9. 01:29 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (Jim Ballenger)
10. 01:33 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (Jim Ballenger)
11. 02:06 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (Richard Pike)
12. 02:20 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (Rusty)
13. 03:15 PM - Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER (HShack@aol.com)
14. 07:54 PM - Re: Geo engine (Richard Swiderski)
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:leaving this group |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Carl All,
I find it rather sad to hear that a fellow Kolber feels so bo bad about the
level of service he got after crashing his Kolb.
As European Dealer for Kolb we try to offer all the support possible.
If I remenber correct;y when Carls hagar collapsed onto his Kolb I supplied
FREE of charge advice on how to repair and the required rivets FREE of
charge.
Also further to Carl contacting us regarding purchasing a new cage I made
several calls to TNK to try to get the best solution and quotes (which they
will confirm).
Following this an E-Mail was sent to Carl offering 2 possibilities for
repair, after 1 week no reply was recieved so a follow up mail was sent with
no reply.
As price was a consideration we assumed Carl did not want to purchase.
We offer free advise to all Kolb owners over here weather they brought from
us or not and try our best to promote Kolb through Europe.
I havejust come back from a 2000 mile flight in our Kolb Xtra showing it
around France DOING OUR BEST FOR TNK.
I would suggest either Carl did not recieve our mails for some reason or he
did want to purchase a new kit package.
Sorry to hear of a lost Kolber.
Kind Regards
Mike
Xtra/Jab 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List:leaving this group
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> I am leaving this group as I no longer have a Kolb...
>
> An unfortunate incident lead to my Kolb sustaining damage to cage and
> boom...
>
> No problem I thought .... just order the spares from the states....
>
> Great idea, the factory were great with advice and help but then Kolb put
> me
> in touch with the UK importer......
>
> Well.....
>
> After a deafening silence of many months I have unfortunately decided that
> I
> can wait no longer...
>
> So I have now ordered a Skyranger....whose importer seems to offer an
> excellent service..
>
> So if anyone wants a set of wings and tailplanes etc for a Kolb
> MkIII......
>
> Carl
>
>
> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: UL crash video |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Some of us were daft enough to fly aerobatics and also had the sense
to wear a parachute.>>
Hi John,
I suppose thats better than aerobatting and NOT having a parachute.
I still think that u/l are not built for aerobatics. I am very grateful that
someone somewhere decided that a particular design is +4 and - 2G but I
shall continue to treat mine as + or - 1.
In any case how many of these design figures are achieved by actual flight
and how many by loading sandbags on the wings?
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Re: UL crash video |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
polyester and Stitts are not appetizing to cows.>>
Thanks John,
I wish I had known that when I persuaded a farmer to move his herd into
another field overnight when I made an emergency landing.
Perhaps thigs have moved on. Cows certainly used to eat gliders but then
they were not Stitts covered.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Cows & Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
His comment was that "You should have kept the barn door closed.">>
Thats sounds as though farmers are the same the world over. They are never
to blame, and if they are they aint gonna pay no how.
In the UK if a cow escapes from a field, wanders down the road and you hit
it in your car. You are responsible.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Richard,
How heavy is that SPG-2 drive?
At the moment, there really isn't a good PSRU for a single rotor Mazda, so
I'll be using one made for a two rotor, and it weighs about 44 lbs. There is
a guy who converted a Hirth G-40, which probably totals about 25-30 lbs
complete, but it's only good to 120 HP I think. That's plenty for the SS of
course, but a single rotor with turbo would be capable of about 180 hp,
which is what the SPG-2 is rated for.
BTW, just when the heck do you plan to finish that thing :-)
Cheers,
Rusty
--------------------------
Rick, Check out the SPG-2, it is very robust & affordable. See it at
http://www.airtrikes.net/engines.shtml It is being used with VW's but not
shown on that site, Vassli the importer would be happy to talk with you.
Richard Swiderski
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| Subject: | MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Is kolb making a adjustable front stab bracket? I haven't drilled mine yet
and would like to know before making holes.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ballenger [mailto:ulpilot@cavtel.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Fellow Kolbers
I am nearing 40 hours on my rotax 582 powered MkIII and starting to
experiment with flying different weight sand bags to simulate passenger
weights. I have flown with 60 , 120 and 180 pounds of sand in the passenger
seat. I have been changing my HZ Stab LE height to keep my trim in check.
When flying solo. I have the LE in the top hole of the 4 hole adjustable HZ
Stab bracket and it flies great. For each 60 pounds of increased weight, I
am moving the LE down one hole and so far it is working out. Has anyone else
experimented with the HZ stab incidence when flying different weights in the
passenger seat?
Thanks
Jim Ballenger
Selling a FS KXP 447
Flying a MK III X 582
Virginia Beach, VA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Kulp" <undoctor@rcn.com>
I recently posted a question about correctly mounting the engine of an Ultrastar.
I received numerous responses including photos and pages of the instruction
manual. What I have determined without close up shots but gleaning the construction
manual is that the shock mounts are located where the mounting system
(i.e., modified "A" frame, et al) is connected to the cage, and that the engine
is simply bolted solidly under the "A" frame using 7/16 X 2 inch hardened bolts
and lock washers.
I would appreciate feedback from Ultrastar owners, builders, previous owners with
a good memory so I don't end up dropping my Cayuna into someone's bar-be-que.
I would also use Loctite unless there's some reason I'm told I shouldn't.
I'm always eager to listen to true experts; once I was doing some wiring on my
Ultrastar at the strip where I flew out of and a visitor who had flown in observed
me ready to solder joints. He was an engineer and informed me that soldering
was not the best way to go, since a solder joint could crack with the vibration,
but a properly crimped joint was very reliable. I immediately altered
my procedure and thanked him for his concern.
So,now I need guidance with mounting my engine.
Thanks!
Dave Kulp
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| Subject: | Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Ken
Yes they have them. I talked to Ray Brown a couple of days ago and he said
they are including them in the MK III X kits.
Jim Ballenger
Selling a FS KXP 447
Flying a MK III X 582
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
>
> Is kolb making a adjustable front stab bracket? I haven't drilled mine yet
> and would like to know before making holes.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ballenger [mailto:ulpilot@cavtel.net]
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers
> I am nearing 40 hours on my rotax 582 powered MkIII and starting to
> experiment with flying different weight sand bags to simulate passenger
> weights. I have flown with 60 , 120 and 180 pounds of sand in the
> passenger
> seat. I have been changing my HZ Stab LE height to keep my trim in check.
> When flying solo. I have the LE in the top hole of the 4 hole adjustable
> HZ
> Stab bracket and it flies great. For each 60 pounds of increased weight,
> I
> am moving the LE down one hole and so far it is working out. Has anyone
> else
> experimented with the HZ stab incidence when flying different weights in
> the
> passenger seat?
> Thanks
> Jim Ballenger
> Selling a FS KXP 447
> Flying a MK III X 582
> Virginia Beach, VA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
John
Thanks for the information. I am looking forward to gaining more experience
and confidence in the planes performance in different conditions.
Jim Ballenger
Selling a FS KXP 447
Flying a MK III X 582
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> Has anyone else experimented with the HZ stab incidence when flying
> different weights in the passenger seat?
>
> Hi Jim B/Gang:
>
> Don't know about the Xtra, but I knew I needed some help with pitch
> trim based on experience flying passengers in the Factory MKIII. When
> I built my MKIII, Jim Hauck and I came up with 4130 mounting fittings
> that allowed three difference settings.
>
> My top setting originally was set about an inch below the top of the
> tail boom. That wasn't enough, so I drilled them out and moved them
> down some more. Ended leaving them set in the middle position for all
> loads. That is where the airplane and I fly the best. That is where
> we are the most comfortable.
>
> Don't know that that experiement was ever done prior to ours, February
> 1991.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> hauck's holler, alabama
> MKIII - 2,371.5 hours
> 912ULS - 1,025.6 hours
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Richard
Interesting solution to the trim issue. Thanks for the information on what
to expect with the additional weight. I am sure the sand bags do not
totally simulate the spread of the weight of the human body. I have all the
weight in the seat and not taking in account of the human legs and the
position they occupy in the plane.
Jim Ballenger
Selling a FS KXP 447
Flying a MK III X 582
Virginia Beach, VA
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> I found it easier to modify the flap handle so that when carrying a
> passenger, I could have the flap handle move to a higher position, and
> reflex the flaps. That makes a huge difference in how the airplane trims
> out with the extra weight.
>
> For your first flight with a passenger, set your trim lever for a lot more
> up elevator than you normally use, and do not plan to land with full
> flaps.
> Flaps and a passenger cause a really nose down pitch. Should you need to
> go
> around, or extend the base leg, etc., full power with a passenger and full
> flaps will make you go "Hmmm..." Not a happy time.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
>
> At 06:39 PM 9/7/05 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
>>
>>Fellow Kolbers
>>I am nearing 40 hours on my rotax 582 powered MkIII and starting to
>>experiment with flying different weight sand bags to simulate passenger
>>weights. I have flown with 60 , 120 and 180 pounds of sand in the
>>passenger seat. I have been changing my HZ Stab LE height to keep my trim
>>in check. When flying solo. I have the LE in the top hole of the 4 hole
>>adjustable HZ Stab bracket and it flies great. For each 60 pounds of
>>increased weight, I am moving the LE down one hole and so far it is
>>working out. Has anyone else experimented with the HZ stab incidence when
>>flying different weights in the passenger seat?
>>Thanks
>>Jim Ballenger
>>Selling a FS KXP 447
>>Flying a MK III X 582
>>Virginia Beach, VA
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Years ago, I read in one of Tony Bingelis' books that the center of mass of
the human body is the belly button.
Not sure how you emulate that with sand bags in a MKIII...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 04:33 PM 9/8/05 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
>
>Richard
>Interesting solution to the trim issue. Thanks for the information on what
>to expect with the additional weight. I am sure the sand bags do not
>totally simulate the spread of the weight of the human body. I have all the
>weight in the seat and not taking in account of the human legs and the
>position they occupy in the plane.
>Jim Ballenger
>Selling a FS KXP 447
>Flying a MK III X 582
>Virginia Beach, VA
>
>Do Not Archive
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
> >
> > I found it easier to modify the flap handle so that when carrying a
> > passenger, I could have the flap handle move to a higher position, and
> > reflex the flaps. That makes a huge difference in how the airplane trims
> > out with the extra weight.
> >
> > For your first flight with a passenger, set your trim lever for a lot more
> > up elevator than you normally use, and do not plan to land with full
> > flaps.
> > Flaps and a passenger cause a really nose down pitch. Should you need to
> > go
> > around, or extend the base leg, etc., full power with a passenger and full
> > flaps will make you go "Hmmm..." Not a happy time.
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > At 06:39 PM 9/7/05 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> >>
> >>Fellow Kolbers
> >>I am nearing 40 hours on my rotax 582 powered MkIII and starting to
> >>experiment with flying different weight sand bags to simulate passenger
> >>weights. I have flown with 60 , 120 and 180 pounds of sand in the
> >>passenger seat. I have been changing my HZ Stab LE height to keep my trim
> >>in check. When flying solo. I have the LE in the top hole of the 4 hole
> >>adjustable HZ Stab bracket and it flies great. For each 60 pounds of
> >>increased weight, I am moving the LE down one hole and so far it is
> >>working out. Has anyone else experimented with the HZ stab incidence when
> >>flying different weights in the passenger seat?
> >>Thanks
> >>Jim Ballenger
> >>Selling a FS KXP 447
> >>Flying a MK III X 582
> >>Virginia Beach, VA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Years ago, I read in one of Tony Bingelis' books that the center of mass of
the human body is the belly button.
Not sure how you emulate that with sand bags in a MKIII...
----------------
You could put some lint in the bags :-)
I've always heard the same thing about estimating the CG, but it seems hard
to believe. I would guess that this only holds true for folks who are in
the ballpark of their correct weight. Once you move the belly button an
extra foot or more forward, I doubt this works anymore.
Cheers,
Rusty (belly button only a couple inches forward of it's standard location)
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| Subject: | Re: MK III X FLYING CHARACTERISTICS WITH A PASSENGER |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 9/8/2005 4:34:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ulpilot@cavtel.net writes:
Richard
Interesting solution to the trim issue. Thanks for the information on what
to expect with the additional weight. I am sure the sand bags do not
totally simulate the spread of the weight of the human body. I have all the
weight in the seat and not taking in account of the human legs and the
position they occupy in the plane.
In most cases, the center of gravity of person is his belly button [not
mine, though].
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Hey Rusty,
The SPG-2 weighs in under 30 lbs. Forgot the exact number, but I
can weigh it if you want. As to when I will finish, how am I to know? I
thought it would be about 4 years ago! Life has its detours. Now that I am
about 80% recovered from that Lymme's disease, I will be chipping away at it
with regularity. My neighbor just did his maiden flight of his RV-7 & has a
smile pasted to his face. There ought to be a law against having so much
fun when your neighbor is down. -Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Geo engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Richard,
How heavy is that SPG-2 drive?
At the moment, there really isn't a good PSRU for a single rotor Mazda, so
I'll be using one made for a two rotor, and it weighs about 44 lbs. There is
a guy who converted a Hirth G-40, which probably totals about 25-30 lbs
complete, but it's only good to 120 HP I think. That's plenty for the SS of
course, but a single rotor with turbo would be capable of about 180 hp,
which is what the SPG-2 is rated for.
BTW, just when the heck do you plan to finish that thing :-)
Cheers,
Rusty
--------------------------
Rick, Check out the SPG-2, it is very robust & affordable. See it at
http://www.airtrikes.net/engines.shtml It is being used with VW's but not
shown on that site, Vassli the importer would be happy to talk with you.
Richard Swiderski
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