---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/23/05: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:04 AM - Re: Kolb Homecomming (pat ladd) 2. 06:11 AM - Re: Kolb Homecomming (Herb Gayheart) 3. 07:29 AM - Re: Kolb Homecomming (pat ladd) 4. 08:25 AM - Re: Kolb Homecomming (robert bean) 5. 10:00 AM - Re: Kolb kwit (Eugene Zimmerman) 6. 12:42 PM - Middle part end (dralle) 7. 03:01 PM - Re ; Middle part end (Mike Pierzina) 8. 06:05 PM - Re: Kolb kwit (Charlie England) 9. 06:24 PM - Re: Kolb Homecomming (Mike Schnabel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:51 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Homecomming --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Is there anyone on the way that would want to share a ride and talk airplanes.>> If you can make a small diversion and pick me up near Bath, about 100 miles south west of Heathrow I would be grateful. Have a good time chaps. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Homecomming From: Herb Gayheart --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart Pat If that is between Scottsville,Ky and just to the west of London, east of Somerset and south of Paris, --I will be there. Just pack your knap sack and stand beside the road. Hold up a sign, "Kolb of Bust" so that I will recognize you. :-) Herb do not archive On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:56:50 +0100 "pat ladd" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > > Is there anyone on the way that would want to share a ride and talk > > airplanes.>> > > If you can make a small diversion and pick me up near Bath, about > 100 miles > south west of Heathrow I would be grateful. > > Have a good time chaps. > Cheers > > Pat > > do not archive > > > -- > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:41 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Homecomming --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" west of London, east of Somerset and south of Paris.>> Make that north west of Paris and I will be there. While we are on geography has anyone downloaded `Google Earth`. This is the most amazing program showing the entire globe with the facility to zoom in really tight anywhere in the world. Nelsons Column from 1000ft, Golden Gate Bridge close enough to see individual cars, Sydney Opera House , I even found the field I fly from. The download costs nothing and will give hours of innocent fun. Have go at it. Cheers Pat -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:29 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Homecomming --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Pat, yup, good program. Tell us the coordinates of your airport so we can view it. For another striking image try: http://www.aeroplanner.com/weather/menu.cfm?menu=maps go to satellite images, GOES imagery, GOES hurricane east, gulf coast hurricane loop. -BB do not archive On 23, Sep 2005, at 10:23 AM, pat ladd wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > > west of London, east of Somerset and south of Paris.>> > > Make that north west of Paris and I will be there. > > While we are on geography has anyone downloaded `Google Earth`. This > is the > most amazing program showing the entire globe with the facility to > zoom in > really tight anywhere in the world. > Nelsons Column from 1000ft, Golden Gate Bridge close enough to see > individual cars, Sydney Opera House , I even found the field I fly > from. > The download costs nothing and will give hours of innocent fun. Have > go at > it. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:47 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb kwit --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman On Sep 22, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Charlie England wrote: > I reach my highest levels of fear from pattern entry > to touchdown on the runway, because I *know* we won't make the > runway if > the engine quits. Does this mean 99.9% of your air time is at the highest level of fear because if your engine quits you would not make the runway. 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posted by: Mike Pierzina Hey Matt, Your not really from this Planet, are you......We speak E N G L I S H..... And if there's a do not archive in that.....I couldn't find it......He he he Gotta Fly... Mike in MN 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engine quitting is when my >engine is at idle. > It means that when flying a larger (non ultralite-type) a/c, most flying is done at much higher than pattern altitude & at normal cruise power settings. In every situation except fire, altitude provides options. I've had a Lyc quit at 200 ft & a 1/2 mile out while dragging it in following another plane on an 'FAA approved' glideslope. Pretty strong reinforcement of the lessons learned as a student. My fear behind a Lyc or Cont is pretty much the same as your fear behind (in front of?) a 2stroke: Reduced power setting is the time of highest discomfort & combining that with being at 600 ft 2 miles from the runway at 1/2 throttle or less is really stressful. My personal preference (& the way I was trained) is to fly every pattern (close to the ground with no real options) as if I had no engine. That way, on the day I find myself without an engine, it's just another landing. I don't just ignore FAA guidelines, but evaluating them for reasonableness in specific situations makes sense to me. Many regs & procedures, especially today, are geared to the needs & requirements of air carriers with no consideration given to smaller a/c. Again, FWIW, Charlie ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:08 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Homecomming --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel Pat, I also had found Google Earth and you are correct, it is quite amazing! I used it extensively during the search for my new found home/(future) grass runway. Offered an outstanding "real" view of the ground i was looking at buying. I thought Google Maps was awesome with both map view and satellite view, but Google Earth is several steps ahead of that! Great Program. Do not archive Mike Schnabel FSII 503 pat ladd wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" west of London, east of Somerset and south of Paris.>> Make that north west of Paris and I will be there. While we are on geography has anyone downloaded `Google Earth`. This is the most amazing program showing the entire globe with the facility to zoom in really tight anywhere in the world. Nelsons Column from 1000ft, Golden Gate Bridge close enough to see individual cars, Sydney Opera House , I even found the field I fly from. The download costs nothing and will give hours of innocent fun. Have go at it. Cheers Pat --