Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:50 AM - Proper w/b procedure (Jim Gerken)
2. 05:07 AM - Re: Sport pilot question (James, Ken)
3. 07:26 AM - Re: weight and balance (pat ladd)
4. 07:26 AM - Re: weight and balance (pat ladd)
5. 07:56 AM - Jabiru Prop Choice (N27SB@aol.com)
6. 08:03 AM - Sport pilot test (Lanny Fetterman)
7. 08:59 AM - Weight and Balance Spread Sheet (ray anderson)
8. 09:01 AM - Re: Sport pilot test (James, Ken)
9. 09:02 AM - broken titan exhaust system (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
10. 09:40 AM - Re: broken titan exhaust system (John Hauck)
11. 09:57 AM - Re: Firestar weight and balance info needed (possums)
12. 10:31 AM - trim (russ kinne)
13. 11:02 AM - Banking left (Charles Blackwell)
14. 11:33 AM - books (pat ladd)
15. 01:18 PM - (Chris Mallory)
16. 01:37 PM - Re: Weight and Balance Spread Sheet (Robert Noyer)
17. 01:44 PM - Re: (Guy Morgan)
18. 01:59 PM - Re: (Michael Sharp)
19. 02:14 PM - Re: (Beauford)
20. 02:29 PM - Re: (Chris Mallory)
21. 02:41 PM - trim tabs (b young)
22. 02:41 PM - w&b (b young)
23. 03:24 PM - 6" aluminum tube (guy truex)
24. 04:57 PM - Re: Sport pilot test (PENGUIN)
25. 05:09 PM - Re: broken titan exhaust system (Denny Rowe)
26. 05:35 PM - Re: Jabiru Prop Choice (Denny Rowe)
27. 05:42 PM - Re: Sport pilot test (Mike Schnabel)
28. 06:19 PM - Battery for 503 Starter? (jdmurr@juno.com)
29. 07:36 PM - Re: 6" aluminum tube (N27SB@aol.com)
30. 07:40 PM - Sport pilot test (Lanny Fetterman)
31. 07:59 PM - Starter battery (Lanny Fetterman)
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| Subject: | Proper w/b procedure |
09/28/2005 06:49:49 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken <gerken@us.ibm.com>
Time: 05:34:13 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: weight and balance
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>above the
>>| ground, and block the opposite wheel up to match it. Raise the tail
>>the
>>| same amount. Lar.
>Lar/Gang:
>And............make sure it is weighed in an environment of still air.
>A little puff of wind will make a big difference in your weight
>readout.
>john h
>MKIII/912ULS
John H., how did your weight and balance come out? Can you show us your
math?
Jim Gerken
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| Subject: | Sport pilot question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Where did Dload the questions from?
Thanks
Ken
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From: Lanny Fetterman [mailto:donaho@csrlink.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Sport pilot question
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi to all, I took and passed the sport pilot written test today. Now the
chicken or the egg question. Do I N-number the F.S.II and then take the
practical? Or do I take the practical then N-number the aircraft? If I
understand things correctly, I must take the practical test in an
N-numbered aircraft of the same type I am going to fly. However, I may not
fly an N-Numbered aircraft until I have a sport pilot endorsement. Any
insight on this would be a great help. Thanks in advance to anyone that
responds to this
question.
Lanny Fetterman F.S. II #598 A.S.C. # A10LRF Do not
archive
` P.S. Several of the questions I was asked, were NOT
in
the bank of 189 sport pilot questions that I downloaded to study for the
test. Surprise, Surprise!
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| Subject: | Re: weight and balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
tyre (there ya go Pat).>>
Robert,
if you go on like this you will be able to claim English as your First
Language.
Re aching backs. Just changed the wheel on the Challenger on my own.
Lifting at the tip is no problem but lifting close enough to the root to be
able to kick a block under the u/c leg is a different matter.
Did my Google earth pic. make it?
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: weight and balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Raise the tail the same amount. >>
Not forgetting that the plane should be in the flying position. But of
course everyone knew that.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Jabiru Prop Choice |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To all,
Bryan Melborn asked me to find info on prop choices for an 80 hp Jab on a
MKIIIX.
He has a customer that does not follow the list. He is currently using a
Sensenich wood prop but it is very noisy.
Steve
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| Subject: | Sport pilot test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Ken and all, I downloaded the test questions from
http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/lsp.htm Lanny Do not
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| Subject: | Weight and Balance Spread Sheet |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
An excellent spread sheet for doing weight and balance on taildraggers is found
at the enclosed link'
http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/Wghtbal.htm
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Kold UltraStar, Tenn
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| Subject: | Sport pilot test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
thanks
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Lanny Fetterman [mailto:donaho@csrlink.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Sport pilot test
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Ken and all, I downloaded the test questions from
http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/lsp.htm Lanny Do not
archive
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| Subject: | broken titan exhaust system |
09/28/2005 12:02:12 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I have said this before, but you guys might want to take a hard look at my
exhaust system for the 912. I repaired the Titan system three times, then
gave up and went to this one. Not even a hint of wear on it. Looks cool as
well - nice and compact instead of a tangle of pipe.
http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_003.htm
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Re: broken titan exhaust system |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|Looks cool as
| well - nice and compact instead of a tangle of pipe.
|
| http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_003.htm
|
|
| Erich Weaver
Hi Erich/Gang:
Cheaper price also.
I put about 900 hours on the first set of Titan 912ULS exhaust with
excellent results. Got a new set for the 2004 Alaska flight, which
had a failed tube last May with about 150 hours on it.
Your system seems to eliminate the stress that will be applied to the
Titan system should it not line up correctly. Slip fits of your
system should last much longer than the long, clamped exhaust tubes on
the Titan system.
I do like the exhaust note of the Titan over the system you are flying
with. Wonder if they could do something about it? ;-) Like
comparing a T-28 to an AT-6 exhaust note.
Take care,
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar weight and balance info needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
>At 09:48 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
> >
> >I had purchased a 1987 Firestar and have been flying it for two
> >months now. I have not done a weight and balance on it because I
> >weigh 25 pounds more than the previous owner did. I do notice that
> >at cruise and to a lesser degree at idle, I need to keep my stick
> >"bungeed" to keep back stick pressure to keep the nose from falling.
> >I looked through the documentation and I can't find anything on how
> >to check the weight and balance. Does anyone have documentation
> >needed for this? Moments, etc? I think I'm nose-heavy, but I don't
> >want to assume this. Where is the CG range on the 1987 Firestar? Thanks!
> >John Murr
> >1987 Firestar
Old weight & Balance drawings
http://sos.photosite.com/Album1/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Next time you're near a Bonanza, go to the front and sight down the
centerline of the a/c. You'll see that the centerline of the engine is
offset a few degrees -- to counteract the "P-factor" caused by the
rotating propwash hitting the tail. They knew what they were doing, and
made a simple fix, without the drag of trimtabs.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
This discussion is so much fun I wanted to add in my extra cents on the
thread. With my MkII I've also noticed a left banking tendency when flown
solo from the left seat.. It is less pronounced when flying solo from the
right seat, but noticeable. For me, the conclusion was that my weight
shifting was controlling the plane. It is noticeably different if I lean
over the centerline of the plane and push with my hand on the other seat.
If myself and the passenger both lean forward, the plane wants to dive a
bit. If we both lean to one side to see something interesting, the plane
understands and turns in that direction unless I compensate with the
controls.
When flying solo now I use a bungee on the control stick that pulls it to
the cage of the frame and takes the pressure off my arm. I got the idea off
this list and it works great. I just remove the bungee when flying double.
An adjustable tab would have been my second attempt at a correction,
adjustable because it needs to compensate only when I am solo.
Charlie, MkII in NJ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi,
I have just ordered a book about flying from Amazon. You probably know that they
also recommend books on similar topics when you do that.
What did they offer?
``The Killing Zone. Why pilots Die``
Do they know something we dont. very nasty. Quite put me off my tea and crumpets
dontcha know?
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
I want to thank everyone for all of the great advice (and commentary) as a
result of all this great information I have been able to correct the banking
problem on my Firestar II by bending the cage slightly, adding a trim tab
and ..... I currently fly from a seat attached to the right gear leg. Flies
great but I am suspicious that the relocation of the seat may add quite a
bit of drag ... but what the hey, it works.
Thanks again
Chris Mallory
(Just kidding)
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance Spread Sheet |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
I think Ray A's link for W&B calculations should be Archived.
Again: http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/Wghtbal.htm
regards,
Bob N.
ronoy@shentel.net
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>..... I currently fly from a seat attached to the right gear leg. Flies
>great but I am suspicious that the relocation of the seat may add quite a
>bit of drag ... but what the hey, it works.
>Thanks again
>Chris Mallory
>(Just kidding)
Chris,
Just tape some vortex generators to your forehead.
Guy Morgan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Don't forget a shot of SeaFoam before each flight!
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Guy Morgan <morganguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan"
>..... I currently fly from a seat attached to the right gear leg. Flies
>great but I am suspicious that the relocation of the seat may add quite a
>bit of drag ... but what the hey, it works.
>Thanks again
>Chris Mallory
>(Just kidding)
Chris,
Just tape some vortex generators to your forehead.
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Kolbers...
Y'all DO realize that this Mallory guy has his airplane trailer tied down on
the Manatee Airport directly between George Alexander and yours truly, don't
you...? If he begins to sound a lot like "us", there is probably a reason
for it....
Beauford
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>
>
>>..... I currently fly from a seat attached to the right gear leg. Flies
>>great but I am suspicious that the relocation of the seat may add quite a
>>bit of drag ... but what the hey, it works.
>>Thanks again
>>Chris Mallory
>>(Just kidding)
>
> Chris,
> Just tape some vortex generators to your forehead.
>
> Guy Morgan
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Amen to that !!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Kolbers...
> Y'all DO realize that this Mallory guy has his airplane trailer tied down
> on
> the Manatee Airport directly between George Alexander and yours truly,
> don't
> you...? If he begins to sound a lot like "us", there is probably a reason
> for it....
> Beauford
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List:
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>>>..... I currently fly from a seat attached to the right gear leg. Flies
>>>great but I am suspicious that the relocation of the seat may add quite a
>>>bit of drag ... but what the hey, it works.
>>>Thanks again
>>>Chris Mallory
>>>(Just kidding)
>>
>> Chris,
>> Just tape some vortex generators to your forehead.
>>
>> Guy Morgan
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
>> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
,,<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
If you really want to get rid of the trim problem with the ailerons ,
just make new fittings for the wing attach where the wing folds and offset
the
holes so you can change the angle of attack of each wing....heavy wing
leading
edge needs to go up.....My ultrastar had a heavy wing but by modifying the
square
tube that attaches to the cage at the wing spar it can be achieved and still
fold the wing as long as you only move the hole a little on each side....one
up ...one down...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
been there and done that and this is my thoughts upon the matter..... when I
first flew my mkIII it wanted to roll to the right..... but when it was in
straight and level flight the trailing edges of the flaps and ailerons all
lined up..... first I tried to adjust some of the roll out by adjusting the
flaps... it helped but did not make enough difference.... then I took the
wing fold fittings and had the side of the half inch hole welded in a bit
and used a file on the other side of the hole to round it back out to
fit.... I had to do it on both sides, one up and the other down to change
the incidence in the wings.... it then flew hands off,,,,,, BUT not the
trailing edges of the flaps and ailerons were no longer lined up...... I
ended up with new wing fold fittings and reinstalled the wings and had the
same results as I did the first time.... I then installed a trim tab and the
results were hands off flying with the trailing edges lined up....... at
least for me this was a better fix than adjusting the wing fold
fittings..... your milage may vary
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Anyone flying a plane without personally performing a correct weight an
balance should stop flying immediately and drink beer until they are smart
enough to do a weight and balance.
It is ridiculous to not do this. You take three weights, and do some very
simple math that includes only multiplication, addition and division. There
is no excuse to not do a proper weight and balance, using accurate scales.
It is only your life you are risking... so no big loss I guess!
Do not archive
Christopher Armstrong
-----------------------------------
I have put together a quatro pro spreadsheet for W&B all you need to
do is plug in the moment arms and weights and presto... if anyone would
like a copy email me direct
boyd
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| Subject: | 6" aluminum tube |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: guy truex <airbosss@yahoo.com>
I need a 40" long piece of 6" aluminum tube for a home project. It can have holes
in it, but it has to be round. I don't care if it is painted or dirty. If any
of you have an old piece of 6" tailboom or spar that you would like to part
with, please contact me off the list.
Thanks.
-- Guy airbosss@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: PENGUIN <pengy@humboldt.net>
Lanny Fetterman wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
>
>Ken and all, I downloaded the test questions from
>http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/lsp.htm Lanny Do not
>archive
>
>
>
IMHO, this is one worth archiving.
Penguin
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| Subject: | Re: broken titan exhaust system |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Eric,
That is a super clean looking exhaust, also looks very light.
Did you build it or purchase it?
Denny Rowe
> http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_003.htm
>
>
> Erich Weaver
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Prop Choice |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <N27SB@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Jabiru Prop Choice
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
> To all,
> Bryan Melborn asked me to find info on prop choices for an 80 hp Jab on a
> MKIIIX.
> He has a customer that does not follow the list. He is currently using a
> Sensenich wood prop but it is very noisy.
>
> Steve
> do not archive
>
>
> Steve,
Check with Will Tatham, he has a Mk-3 with a 2200.
His address is wmtatham@mapllc.com
Also, Luray Weacter has a "Bad to the bone" Slingshot with a 2200 on it, I
think he is turning a 64 inch Tennesee prop with tapered tips and epoxy
coating, his address is Luweac@aol.com
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Lanny, the link did not work for me. Is the URL correct? Thanks!
Mike S
Manchester TN
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Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net> wrote:
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Ken and all, I downloaded the test questions from
http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/lsp.htm Lanny Do not
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| Subject: | Battery for 503 Starter? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
What size, make and model battery should I get for my recently purchased TNK starter?
I've used motorcycle batteries in the past (in motorcycles) and they
only seemed to last a year. They were lead acid and I assume that I will need
a sealed battery. The thought of being bathed in battery acid isn't appealing
to me at all if it should spill.
I would think a gel-cell or one of the newer type batteries would be better but
which one? Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
John Murr
1987 Firestar
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What size, make and model battery shouldI get for my recently purchased TNK starter?
I've used motorcycle batteries in the past (in motorcycles) and they only
seemed to last a year. They were lead acid and I assume that I will need a sealed
battery. The thought of being bathed in battery acid isn't appealing to
me at all if it should spill.
I would think a gel-cell or one of the newer type batteries would be better but
which one? Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
John Murr
1987 Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: 6" aluminum tube |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 9/28/2005 6:25:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
airbosss@yahoo.com writes:
I need a 40" long piece of 6" aluminum tube
Check with Travis at TNK. They should have some scrap.
Steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Mike you may have to start at av-info.faa.gov I downloaded the test about
two months ago, so I`m not sure where I went first when I found it. The URL
is correct as it is printed at the bottom of each page I printed out. Hope
this helps. Lanny
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
John, I have a 503 with an Air drive starter ( no longer made). I use a 17
amp gel cell that I bought at a local battery store. I paid about half what
the aircraft supply people charge. This is year four for this battery,
always turns the engine over real good. I always hook up a solar charger to
it when it`s sitting in the hanger. I put the solar panel in the hanger
window, I had to lengthen the wires to reach, but it seems to work. I think
the battery is made by powersonic but I would have to check to be sure.
Only drawback is, it is very heavy, however the FSII still is the fastest
climbing aircraft at our small airport. Hope this helps Lanny
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