Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/04/05


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:19 AM - Re: W&B (David L. Bigelow)
     2. 05:55 AM - Re: Big Weekend (pat ladd)
     3. 06:15 AM - John Cooley (Paul Petty)
     4. 07:59 AM - Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe Placement Question (Jack B. Hart)
     5. 08:17 AM - SMLA Fly-In (John Williamson)
     6. 08:59 AM - Re: Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe Placement Question (George E. Myers Jr.)
     7. 09:06 AM - Re: SMLA Fly-In (ghaley@wt.net)
     8. 04:04 PM - Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos (kfackler)
     9. 05:47 PM - Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos (Chuck S)
    10. 07:53 PM - Re:SMLA Fly-In - TFR? (John Bickham)
    11. 08:11 PM - Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos (kfackler)
    12. 08:59 PM - Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos (Chuck Stonex)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:19:03 AM PST US
    From: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: W&B
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> John, I've gotta stop these midnight posts - sense of humor goes to sleep! Re-reading your post in daylight makes it obvious you were kidding. Oh Well....! Do Not Archive Dave """Time: 03:32:15 AM PST US From: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: W&B --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com> Of course I was. It's 358 dry. (don't tell the Feds!!) -- "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> "I guess it's because of the heavier 503 hanging on the back. FWIW, the plane weighs 253.889 lbs. ;-) John Murr 1987 Firestar" John, I believe you should be concerned about your total empty weight being accurate. If it's not accurate, the CG position is probably not correct. I don't think you can build a Firestar with a 503 that light - even a 5 rib wing version. The Firefly (designed to make part 103 limit) with a 447 and minimum instruments just makes the 255 lb. figure. Are you putting us on? Dave Bigelow Kamuela, HI FS2, 503 DCDI Of course I was. It's 358 dry. (don't tell the Feds!!)"""


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    Time: 05:55:40 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Big Weekend
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> my first flight in my Firestar II >> Hi Robert, good luck. Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 06:15:54 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: John Cooley
    required 4.6, BAYES_40 -0.00, HTML_MESSAGE 0.25) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net> John, Glad to hear all is well with your family and Kolb aircraft. I tried many times to contact you but I guess cell service was out like it was here. I am also glad your company (Chevron) stepped up to the plate to help. From a major fuel producers stand point can you explain these fuel prices? Also does your refinery produce 100LL? Things are back to normal up here at Harris Hollow and the Kolbra is still coming along. Look forward to seeing you and other fellow kolbers later this month at Ronnie's fly in. Here is our latest photo of Ms Dixie ...... http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P9290020.JPG Take Care Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp www.c-gate.net/~ppetty do not archive


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    Time: 07:59:26 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe Placement Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> Kolbers, Since the Victor 1+ tear down and rebuild due to the loss of the flywheel vibration damper, I have been having problems with unstable exhaust gas temperatures. What happens is as the throttle is advanced everything is fine until the engine hits 5,200 rpm. At this point the temperature will start to spike. I can push the throttle on forward to get into the main jet region and the temperature will come back down to 1,150 to 1,200 degrees F. But in between I have seen temps as high as 1,400 degrees F. At first I thought I had a cracked exhaust system, but it is ok. I have tightened the exhaust system clamp and sealed the joints with high temp silicone and no change. Then I got to thinking about my booster bottle experiments and the use of a stronger Bing throttle slide spring. I took the throttle slide out of the Bing and sure enough it showed wear and polish patterns due to vibration. Called Bing and found out they have three springs, light, medium and heavy. I asked them to send me a heavy spring. After installing the spring the EGTs did not change, but I found fuel consumption rates per flight showed much less variation than before. The engine was showing indications that it was running much to rich at low speed and did not want to idle even with the air screw four turns out. No one listed a smaller idle jet, so called Bing and found they made one smaller size. Installing this has improved idle and no dead stick landings, with the air screw set at two turns out. This seemed to increase low speed EGT's but did not influence the spiking problem. Next I started to lean out the engine as the plugs were black. I have gone through 11K2, 11H2, and am currently using 11G2 needle trying to lean out the low speed side. The last needle was too lean and I had to increase the needle jet from 2.78 to 2.80 and it may have to be increased some more. Before the needle changes and the leaning, the Victor was consistently burning less than 2.2 gph. At this point the engine is consistently burning less than 2.0 gph, and the plugs have gone from black to grey. With all this change, I can see no difference in the EGT spike rpm region or run readings. So I continue to fly at 5,200 rpm or less. On take off I push the throttle forward to get into the main jet region and climb out at 6,400 rpm. When I throttle back the EGT spike starts at 6,200 rpm. I have become suspicious that the EGT probe position on the Victor 1+ is too close to the piston. It looks like it is two inches or less from the side of the piston. Simonini reports much lower EGT's than what I have been seeing and this would seem to me that moving the EGT down stream would be closer to what they have reported. I have ordered a dual EGT indicator and a hose clamp style EGT probe so that I can mount a second EGT probe down stream from the first one. When I talked to the Westach rep and asked where to mount the probe, he said four to eight inches down stream from the piston. This engine has 112 hours on it, and I don't want to burn it up. But I would like to use the engine in the region between 5,200 and 6,200 rpm. The best way to keep from burning it up is to have a functional EGT indicator. The new probe should come in a couple of days so, what is the theory for placing EGT probes on two cycle engines? Is it piston diameters down stream? Thank you for suffering through all of this. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:17:51 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
    Subject: SMLA Fly-In
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> South Mississippi Light Aircraft Fly-In is scheduled for 21-23 October 2005. Shane Smith Memorial Octoberlite October 21-23 Sponsored by Gulf Coast Recreational Pilots Annual event held at South MS Light Aircraft Lat: 30 50 26 Long: 88 34 26 Just a reminder, Lucedale, MS is still inside a TFR created after Hurricane Katrina. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 957 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 kolbrapilot2@comcast.net do not archive


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    Time: 08:59:57 AM PST US
    From: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe Placement Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net> Jack, You could try the following link & download the part #11 & part #12 .pdf files. They give the best explanation of the relationship of the between the various parts of a bing carb & the engine I have seen. A lot of other good info also. http://www.theultralightplace.com/troubleshooting.htm George >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> >Kolbers, >Since the Victor 1+ tear down and rebuild due to the loss of the flywheel >vibration damper, I have been having problems with unstable exhaust gas George E. Myers Jr. 1500 IH 35 S San Marcos, TX 78666 512-353-4860 http://www.geohome.sytes.net/


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    Time: 09:06:53 AM PST US
    From: ghaley@wt.net
    Subject: Re: SMLA Fly-In
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net That's also the weekend of Reklaw, which is not in a TFR. See you there? Gary Quoting John Williamson <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net> > > South Mississippi Light Aircraft Fly-In is scheduled for 21-23 October 2005. > > Shane Smith Memorial Octoberlite > October 21-23 > Sponsored by Gulf Coast Recreational Pilots > > Annual event held at South MS Light Aircraft > > Lat: 30 50 26 Long: 88 34 26 > > Just a reminder, Lucedale, MS is still inside a TFR created after Hurricane > Katrina. > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 957 hours > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 > kolbrapilot2@comcast.net > > do not archive > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:04:08 PM PST US
    From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> Due to the number of "remarks" about download times, I've resized all the images of the Thumb Tour. -Ken


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    Time: 05:47:25 PM PST US
    From: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com> Ken, I think you forgot the add a new link so we can see them. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigan Thumb Tour photos > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > > Due to the number of "remarks" about download times, I've resized all the > images of the Thumb Tour. > > -Ken > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:53:16 PM PST US
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RE:SMLA Fly-In - TFR?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net> I was just playing in Aeroplanner. It was showing the TFR's from the hurricane(s) just a couple of days ago. Not there now. Have the TFR's been lifted? I haven't called FSS. Do not archive. Thanks, John Bickham St. Francisville, LA (was right on the edge of TFR)


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    Time: 08:11:55 PM PST US
    From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> So I did! Here it is again. http://www.staliteaviation.com/mi_thumb_tour_05/ do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigan Thumb Tour photos > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com> > > Ken, I think you forgot the add a new link so we can see them. > Chuck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigan Thumb Tour photos > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > > > > Due to the number of "remarks" about download times, I've resized all the > > images of the Thumb Tour. > > > > -Ken


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    Time: 08:59:00 PM PST US
    From: "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Michigan Thumb Tour photos
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex@msn.com> Very nice Pics Ken. Makes me home sick for my Lake Michigan play grounds. I was raised in Muskegon. LEBTF Chuck S Des Moines IA --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> So I did! Here it is again. http://www.staliteaviation.com/mi_thumb_tour_05/ do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigan Thumb Tour photos > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" <cstonex@msn.com> > > Ken, I think you forgot the add a new link so we can see them. > Chuck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigan Thumb Tour photos > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > > > > Due to the number of "remarks" about download times, I've resized all the > > images of the Thumb Tour. > > > > -Ken




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