Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:13 PM - Mk2 weight and balance (Charles Blackwell)
2. 01:38 PM - Titan Exhaust System For Sale (John Williamson)
3. 05:01 PM - ELT (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
4. 05:14 PM - Re: ELT (Robert Laird)
5. 05:23 PM - Transceiver advice? (Lanny Fetterman)
6. 05:31 PM - Re: ELT (Larry Bourne)
7. 06:42 PM - Re: Mk2 weight and balance (Eugene Zimmerman)
8. 06:43 PM - Re: BRS (possums)
9. 06:44 PM - Re: ELT (Richard Pike)
10. 06:46 PM - Re: ELT (Robert Noyer)
11. 06:57 PM - fuel sender dificulties (Larry Cottrell)
12. 07:17 PM - [Fw: SFBAPG: Death by peeing] (PENGUIN)
13. 07:26 PM - Firestar Glide ratios with and without power (Vince Nicely)
14. 07:26 PM - Re: ELT (ray anderson)
15. 07:32 PM - Re: ELT (Larry Bourne)
16. 07:58 PM - Re: ELT (Charlie England)
17. 08:17 PM - Re: ELT (ray anderson)
18. 09:03 PM - Re: ELT (Robert Noyer)
19. 09:50 PM - Re: Mk2 weight and balance (woody)
20. 11:06 PM - Second fuel pump 912S (Rick Pearce)
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| Subject: | Mk2 weight and balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
Ken,
I've got it as: "Enclosed is a sample weight and balance sheet
(non existent). This shows how to do the computations. The average wing
chord is 64" and the airplane will be safe to fly if the center of gravity
of the airplane is between 20% and 40% of the wing chord as measured from
the leading edge. Thus 20% = 12.8 inches aft of the leading edge of the
wing; 40% = 25.6 inches. Thus the airplane is (sic) balance if the C.G. is
between 12.8" and 25.6" from the leading edge of the wing. For reference
the mounting tab for the main spar is 18" aft of the leading edge. The most
critical loading condition is a very light pilot flying alone with a heavy
load of fuel, in which case the C.G. will shift aft. Two heavy people will
result in a much further forward C.G."
Unfortunately I've misplace my most recent weight and balance information,
but the booklet put the empty weight at 320# and gross at 750#. I think I
was really at 342# but may be wrong. With 200# pilot and 12 gal. of fuel I
was fine. With 400# of people it was still within the range. I figured
that my 120# wife could not fly without fuel... Hope your numbers fit.
Charlie, MkII in NJ
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| Subject: | Titan Exhaust System For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
I have replaced the exhaust on the Kolbra and now have a Titan Exhaust
System For Sale that fits a Rotax 912 Series engine.
Complete information can be found at:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1/exhaust.htm
The number 3 exhaust pipe was broken but has been repaired to a flyable
condition, no other problems with it.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 959 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
kolbrapilot2@comcast.net
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT. I remember
reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about it or any
others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as possible.
AzDave
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Worked well for me. I mean, there's not much to it. The ELT just
sits there unless you need it. I got my AK450 from Chief Aircraft.
Batteries are "D" cells, so I can't imagine you'd find a less
expensive ELT solution.
-- Robert
On 10/13/05, Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT. I
remember reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about it or any
others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as possible.
>
> AzDave
>
>
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| Subject: | Transceiver advice? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi All, I`m ready to buy a nav/com radio. I have it narrowed down to an
Icom A22 or a King KX99. I checked the archives, however I didn`t find much
to help me decide. There was one post that said the King seemed to have
less ignition noise then the Icom. Does anyone have any advice for me
before I plunk down my money? Thank You in advance, Lanny Fetterman FSII
#598 Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Ditto on the batteries - cheap and easy. Aircraft Spruce lists them as
well - Ameri-King AK-450. Vamoose has one, too. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELT
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> Worked well for me. I mean, there's not much to it. The ELT just
> sits there unless you need it. I got my AK450 from Chief Aircraft.
> Batteries are "D" cells, so I can't imagine you'd find a less
> expensive ELT solution.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> On 10/13/05, Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>>
>> I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT.
>> I remember reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about
>> it or any others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as
>> possible.
>>
>> AzDave
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk2 weight and balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>>> I figured that my 120# wife could not fly without fuel... <<<
Are you trying to tell us that she is no
angel ????????????????????????????
:-)
On Oct 13, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Charles Blackwell wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles Blackwell
> <wozani@optonline.net>
>
> Ken,
>
> I've got it as: "Enclosed is a sample weight and
> balance sheet
> (non existent). This shows how to do the computations. The
> average wing
> chord is 64" and the airplane will be safe to fly if the center of
> gravity
> of the airplane is between 20% and 40% of the wing chord as
> measured from
> the leading edge. Thus 20% = 12.8 inches aft of the leading edge
> of the
> wing; 40% = 25.6 inches. Thus the airplane is (sic) balance if the
> C.G. is
> between 12.8" and 25.6" from the leading edge of the wing. For
> reference
> the mounting tab for the main spar is 18" aft of the leading edge.
> The most
> critical loading condition is a very light pilot flying alone with
> a heavy
> load of fuel, in which case the C.G. will shift aft. Two heavy
> people will
> result in a much further forward C.G."
>
> Unfortunately I've misplace my most recent weight and balance
> information,
> but the booklet put the empty weight at 320# and gross at 750#. I
> think I
> was really at 342# but may be wrong. With 200# pilot and 12 gal.
> of fuel I
> was fine. With 400# of people it was still within the range. I
> figured
> that my 120# wife could not fly without fuel... Hope your numbers
> fit.
>
>
> Charlie, MkII in NJ
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 07:33 PM 10/12/2005, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>I agree with Ray and John on the importance of practicing the necessary
>moves for the ultimate "Worst Case Scenario". Flight training is 10% flying
>and 90% what to do in case of everything else, it's why we practice all
>those "what if" things for as long as we fly.
>
>What really puzzles me more than those individuals that for whatever reason,
>didn't "Pull the Handle" - snip-
I can answer part of that question - Been in that situation several times.
I, however, have never "pulled the red handle". Maybe I never should have.
Not because I had any time to think about it or "not think about it"
I do practice pulling the handle before every takeoff - and I mean
"every takeoff"..
Here's the problem ...It is amazing even after you have gotten
yourself into a situation where you think "I WOULD PULL
THE RED HANDLE" - you don't.
You don't EVEN REMEMBER YOU HAVE A CHUTE.
Things happen so fast, that the next thing you know, you're on the
ground, or in the water, or in the trees - your hands are shaking
and you think - "I had a chute!"
I was going to stall it into the trees and pull the chute - right???
Belive it or not - you most likely will not even remember it's there.
Like John H. says - "you got to beat it into your head".
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Are you on your second set of batteries?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:31 PM 10/13/05 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>Ditto on the batteries - cheap and easy. Aircraft Spruce lists them as
>well - Ameri-King AK-450. Vamoose has one, too. Lar.
>Do not Archive.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Building Kolb Mk III
>N78LB Vamoose
>www.gogittum.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELT
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
> >
> > Worked well for me. I mean, there's not much to it. The ELT just
> > sits there unless you need it. I got my AK450 from Chief Aircraft.
> > Batteries are "D" cells, so I can't imagine you'd find a less
> > expensive ELT solution.
> >
> > -- Robert
> >
> >
> > On 10/13/05, Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> >> <pelletier@cableone.net>
> >>
> >> I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT.
> >> I remember reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about
> >> it or any others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> AzDave
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
Ck Trade-A-Plane...always have ads fer the Ak, new. Good unit, uses
common D-cells.
regards,
Bob N.
ronoy@shentel.net
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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| Subject: | fuel sender dificulties |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Hi,
I have two 'Westach" fuel guages with the capacitance senders. Recently
one of them began to be a little unsure as to how much gas was actually in
the tank. I of course attempted to fiddle with it and then the other one
went belly up. Seems to work just fine with the motor off but shows full
with the engine running. Any guess's or actual knowledge would be
appreciated.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | [Fwd: SFBAPG: Death by peeing] |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: PENGUIN <pengy@humboldt.net>
There may be a lesson here for others...
Penguin
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Firestar Glide ratios with and without power |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vince Nicely" <vincenic@xtn.net>
Hi Gang,
The has been some discussion recently about how the Kolb airplanes glide
with engine at idle compared to glide with the engine off. Thinking this an
interesting subject, I decided to test my Firestar II, 503 DCDI engine with
72" two-blade Ivo prop. The airplane was at a gross weight of about 650
pounds and the glides were at 45-50 mph calibrated airspeed which is about
the speed for best best glide ratio. I glided for an altitude loss of 2000
ft and measured the distance traveled by the GPS. What I found is that the
glide ratio is 7.8 with the engine off and the prop stopped and the glide
ratio is 7.6 with the engine at idle and the prop is turning about 3200 rpm.
I only did each test once, so within the accuracy of my measurements, there
is no real difference.
Comments or your experience are welcome.
Vince Nicely
Firestar II N8233G with 390 hours
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Dave,
If you are licening the MK111 under experimental, you don't have to
have an ELT.
Do not archive.
Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT. I remember
reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about it or any
others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as possible.
AzDave
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Of course.........and not all that long before the 3rd. :-)
There is hope in the air, tho'. Got the Speedi-Sleeve today, on
recommendation of the manager of the local Kaman store, and will install it
and the new seal on Vamoose' redrive tomorrow or Saturday. Then go for
engine start again, and see if this cures that tarnation oil leak.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELT
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Are you on your second set of batteries?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Caution: If it has more than 1 seat, it must have an elt after it's
signed out of phase 1 testing.
Charlie
ray anderson wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
>Dave,
> If you are licening the MK111 under experimental, you don't have to
have an ELT.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>
>
>I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT. I remember
reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about it or any
others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as possible.
>
>AzDave
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Oops! I think Charlie is correct, about the second seat. All the experimentals
I've ever built were single searers so I displayed my ignorance. Not hard for
me to do. Anyhow, the AK450 sounds like a good deal. The ELT's I had in my store
bought craft used expensive batteries that seemed to cost more than the ELT.
Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by:
Charlie England
Caution: If it has more than 1 seat, it must have an elt after it's
signed out of phase 1 testing.
Charlie
ray anderson wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson
>
>Dave,
> If you are licening the MK111 under experimental, you don't have to have an ELT.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Dave & Eve Pelletier
wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>
>
>I'm starting the process of "N" numbering my MK III and I'll need an ELT. I remember
reading something about an AK450 but can't find anymore about it or any
others. Any suggestions? I want to keep the $$$s as low as possible.
>
>AzDave
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
I have, in former life, installed quite a few ELTs of various makes,
and I can say that the Ak450 is the best bet for GA and ULs. The
battery question is paramount, cost-wise.
Do not archive
regards,
Bob N.
ronoy@shentel.net
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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| Subject: | Re: Mk2 weight and balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> >>> I figured that my 120# wife could not fly without fuel... <<<
>
>
I can't fly without fuel either.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Second fuel pump 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
I noticed at the Kolb home coming that most of the Mark 3's were running a electric
boast pump. Is it req'd or will the std fuel pump pick up fuel from the
tanks behind the seat. I am pulling my fuel off of the top of the tanks with
tube that go to the lowest point in the tanks. I think it was Steve I was talking
to and he said he only used his on take off and landing.
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