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1. 06:42 AM - EIS lag (Paul Petty)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: EIS (Jeremy Casey)
3. 09:47 AM - Re: EIS lag (Mitty)
4. 11:39 AM - Matt, Why Am I Blocked? (skyrider2)
5. 11:49 AM - fuses (b young)
6. 12:08 PM - Re: Smiling Weather Gods (Jim Ballenger)
7. 05:17 PM - Re: Smiling Weather Gods (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
8. 05:37 PM - Re: EIS lag (John Hauck)
9. 08:02 PM - Re: fuses (woody)
10. 09:09 PM - Re: fuses (Larry Bourne)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Thanks to all for the info. Seams one needs to ask around about these things. I
plan on a EIS for Ms. Dixie. After I posted the remarks about the lag I did a
little checking with club members. All responded with the same answer as you
guys.
I only have a couple of more panels to make then it's instrument panel time! I'm
rather proud of how the fuel access door worked out and here are a few photos
if any care to look.
Thanks again take care
Paul
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230005.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230013.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230014.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230024.JPG
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230023.JPG
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
I'll add my $.02 on the EIS...don't intend to own another plane without
one...
Originally used it cause the panel was so small and it saved
space...later I learned that it was an INCREDIBLE piece of instrument.
Take this for what it's worth...I was told dozens of times at fly-ins
that "I can't stand those digital things...I want a needle to look at,
etc. etc." In every case I asked, "How long you flown behind one?"
Almost every time the answer was "NEVER" A few times the answer was "1
flight" or something like that. I will admit it takes a few hours to
get comfortable with it, but what new piece of equipment doesn't?
People seem to like to belittle things they know nothing about...
As for Grand Rapids, the company...I have to put them in the top 1% of
companies I've ever dealt with. While installing the first one I flew
with, I mistakenly touched 12 volts to something I shouldn't have. I
called them up and was upfront and honest with them about what I did and
asked what it would cost to fix it. To paraphrase what they said, If
you can figure out a way to fry it, we want to see it to see how you did
it and fix it so it want do it again. That is called product
improvement folks. I put it in a box and next day shipped it to them,
they fixed it same day and they next day shipped it back to me...on
their dime! The cost for that repair??? Zilch...
And if you passed your color matching test in kindergarten you can
install it...
Jeremy Casey
Kitfox builder...(couldn't help it, got an unstarted complete kit for a
song...)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Paul,
I talked with Sandy at Grand Rapids today and found out the EIS updates
the
screen 2 times per SECOND. Those are good folks at Grand Rapids, I have
talked with them several times. I put them right up there with Travis,
Dondi, and Jim.
The beauty of the EIS is the alarm feature. After you set the alarm
limits
for min and max on all parameters the EIS will flash a red light if any
thing gets out of limits. In the event of an alarm the screen changes
to
display that parameter. "Scanning the gauges" with an EIS consists of
looking at the red light.
Steven
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Looks pretty dang nice I tell ya!
Paul your da man...I don't care what tehy say ;)
M
--- Paul Petty <lynnp@c-gate.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty"
> <lynnp@c-gate.net>
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> Thanks to all for the info. Seams one needs to ask
> around about these things. I plan on a EIS for Ms.
> Dixie. After I posted the remarks about the lag I
> did a little checking with club members. All
> responded with the same answer as you guys.
> I only have a couple of more panels to make then
> it's instrument panel time! I'm rather proud of how
> the fuel access door worked out and here are a few
> photos if any care to look.
>
> Thanks again take care
>
> Paul
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230005.JPG
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> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230013.JPG
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> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230014.JPG
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> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/PA230024.JPG
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| Subject: | Matt, Why Am I Blocked? |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
it seems that matronics striped out all of my ( equal ) signs...... so i
will try again
boyd
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this has been MY rule of thumb
I try to put my electrical loads between 50 % and 75 % of the fuse
rating....
example 1: a 3 amp fuse"
3 times .5 equals 1.5
3 times .75 equals 2.25
the protected circut should be between 1.5 and 2.25 amps.
Example 2: starting with a circut that uses 2.75 amps
2.75 devided by .5 equals 5.5
2.75 devided by .75 equals 3.67
fuse for 2.75 amp load should be between 3.67 and 5.5 amps. I would use a
5 amp....
Example 3: fuse for an altinator that produces 60 watts.
since watts equals amps times volts.... devide 60 watts by 12 volts and
you have 5 amps
max output.....
5 devided by .5 equals 10
5 devided by .75 equals 6.67
the fuse should be between 6.67 and 10
putting a fuse on a radio is exactly the same only different
a radio will show 2 amp ratings.... 1 for listening, and 1 for
transmitting......
the fuse has to be large enough to handle the transmitting loads.
maybe someone elce has a different idea.... and if the manufacture of a
device
makes a recomendation, follow it.
1 more item that i could cover:
some devices have an inrush current that is different than the steady state
amp
draw...
the best way to protect these devices is to put in a "slow blow" fuse...
these
fuses will usually allow double the rated amp for 1 to 2 seconds before they
blow.... anything more than double the rating will blow it instantly and
and
anything over the rating for longer than a couple of seconds will blow it...
boyd
do archive
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| Subject: | Re: Smiling Weather Gods |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Larry
My first flight pitch was way off. I had to hold full forward stick to
maintain level flight and just relax the hold a bit to bring the nose up. I
tried to adjust the pitch with the ailerons for the second flight but
couldn't get enough down so I mounted the HZ stab brackets and used the top
hole for solo flight.
Keep me informed of your performance and impressions. I absolutely think
the 582 and X are a great combination for solo flight. I have 48 hours on
mine (all solo) but I think when the weather breaks here on Thursday, I'm
going to fly my first passenger, my wife.
Jim Ballenger
MK III X 582
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Cat36Fly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Smiling Weather Gods
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
>
> Jim;
>
> Funny you should ask! My HS leading edge is just above the center of the
> boom tube as shown in the plans. I have the new brackets to change the
> location
> but wanted to see how it fly's prior to any changes. Today I adjusted the
> alienors a bit and am waiting for good weather again. Now that I know what
> to
> expect from the bird I will fly in less than ideal conditions (a little
> breeze,
> 3 miles, and 1000 ft +/-)
>
> I will probably need a trim tab also even though I put the battery to the
> right side. Once I get lateral stability (or close) I'll work on the pitch
> (a
> bit nose high right now). How was your original pitch attitude (first
> flight)
> and what corrections were needed?
>
> I used you prop setting numbers and set mine at 10 degrees. It seems good
> for now and saved me some time. THANKS!
>
> Larry Tasker
> 615RT
> Xtra/582/3 blade Warp (Taper Tip)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Smiling Weather Gods |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Jim;
Hoping to get some flying in this week also to check results of adjustments.
May call you direct in the future as I am a lousy typist.
My wife has flown a lot with me (Alaska and back) but I'm not sure she will
get in this bird. It's much smaller than the Cardinal but she may surprise me.
At any rate she has a while to decide (39.5 hrs).
Larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
After I posted the remarks about the lag I did a little checking with
club members. All responded with the same answer as you guys.
Paul P/Gang:
We were talking about pilot reaction, not necessarily instrument.
Steam gauges and EIS respond rapidly to temperature changes in the
engine. In the case of EGT, usually the engine has seized by the time
the pilot responds to the high temp situation. That is what Mike
Highsmith and I were discussing at Lucedale, MS, this weekend.
I don't think one type is any better or worse than the other. Some of
us like steam gauges and some like EIS. I have been fortunate to put
time in the air behind both systems. I, personally, still prefer the
old fashioned system. John W, on the other hand, who has many hours
flying glass cockpits, likes the EIS.
I did have an engine seizure twice on the same 582 with in 30 minutes.
Never did catch up with the Dual EGTs. Can not tell you if they told
me before the engine seized or not. Too late now. ;-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
While on the topic of fuses but of topic for Kolb. I wish to add some more
fuses to my old English car ( sorry Pat but this car does not live up to the
high esteme the world holds it to). They have a habit of burning up under
the dash. If I add extra fuses what will the result be. If I have two 10 ohm
fuses in series will I still have it blow at 10 or will I have uped the rate
to 20 ohm?
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, many (too many) years ago my old Triumph TR3 used to like to catch
fire, too - usually in the middle of a hot date. Sorry, Woody - 2 fuses in
series have the same capacity as 1. If you want more protection, break the
load into smaller increments, increase the fuse size, (and make sure the
wiring is heavy enuf for the increased load) or (ugh) put them in
parallel....which is possible, I guess, but I've never really seen it done.
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuses
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
>
> While on the topic of fuses but of topic for Kolb. I wish to add some
> more
> fuses to my old English car ( sorry Pat but this car does not live up to
> the
> high esteme the world holds it to). They have a habit of burning up under
> the dash. If I add extra fuses what will the result be. If I have two 10
> ohm
> fuses in series will I still have it blow at 10 or will I have uped the
> rate
> to 20 ohm?
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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