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1. 12:10 AM - "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:15 AM - The DC ADIZ NPRM (alan@reichertech.com)
3. 07:24 AM - Trip 2 (Larry Bourne)
4. 08:34 AM - U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Beauford)
5. 10:16 AM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Bob N.)
6. 10:44 AM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Dennis Souder)
7. 01:38 PM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (DCulver701@aol.com)
8. 05:03 PM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Richard Swiderski)
9. 05:41 PM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Ralph)
10. 05:54 PM - Kolb on ebay.. (Don Gherardini)
11. 06:10 PM - Re: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... (Kirk Smith)
12. 09:33 PM - Re: Kolb on ebay.. (Dennis Souder)
13. 11:11 PM - Re: Kolb on ebay.. (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?", and this is
certainly a valid question. Here are just a few examples of what
your direct List support enables. It provides for the very
expensive, business-class, high-speed T1 Internet connection used on
the List, insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when
accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and
software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for
services such as the Archive Search Engine and List Browser. It pays
for 16+ years worth of online archive data available for instant
random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing,
developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this
List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and PhotoShare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where
you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is
free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM,
and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make
all those statements about these days? I will venture to say - next to none...
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable
aspects of this most valuable List service. Please support it today
with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can
make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
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http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | The DC ADIZ NPRM |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
Hello, All!
Please pardon this intrusion. This note is not specific to your
particular list, but regardless of what you are building, restoring, or
flying, an issue exists that could potentially affect all of you who fly
in the United States. That issue is the Washington DC ADIZ.
This ADIZ was put into effect as a temporary protective measure for
Washington DC airspace after 9/11. There is now an NPRM out to make this
airspace *permanent*.
The original comment period for this NPRM expired yesterday, November 2.
However, the FAA has now extended the comment period for another 90 days,
so if you did not get your comments in, HERE IS YOUR CHANCE!
Information on the ADIZ, and why we are fighting it, can be found here:
http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/
I live underneath the current DC ADIZ, so I get to play with this every
time I fly. The AOPA page above gives a good summary of what has happened
in this area since it's inception.
Help on formulating comments for this NPRM can be found here:
http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/help.html
Comments on this NPRM can be submitted (online) to the DOT here:
http://dms.dot.gov/submit/
Instructions on how to navigate and fill out the DOT page to submit your
comments are available here:
http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/faa_help.html
There are over 18000 comments against this NPRM at this time. If yours is
not one of them, please take the time now to submit your comments; every
one helps. If this ADIZ becomes permanent, then there could be an ADIZ
coming to an airspace near you in the future!
I thank Matt for allowing me to send this to you. Even if you don't live
near the DC area, please do what you can to protect your flying
priviledges... submit your comments!
Regards,
-- Alan Reichert
C-182 Driver/RV-8 Builder
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'm catching up with my web pages in a hurry now. Just finished "Vacation 2004-2," the story of my trip north to Canada after returning from Florida. Kolb related ?? Certainly - I visited with Larry and Karen Cottrell at their camp in the Alvord Desert, where several Kolb-ers also visited them after the Monument Valley fly-in last May. Take a look at: http://www.webpictures.homestead.com/trip042.html , or navigate thru Traveling on my website in the link below. I hope you enjoy them. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | U.S. Navy Commander, Departing... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Kolb Listers:
I Regret to inform you of the passing of "Skip" Staub on 02 November at Moffitt
Cancer Center in Tampa. It was a long, hard fight and Skip
gave it his usual all-out, max effort.
Skip was a long-time Kolb Ultrastar owner-pilot, a pioneer member of this Kolb
List, and an American Patriot.
He served 20 years as a U.S. Naval Aviator and was one of that services' highest
time pilots in the
Vought F8U Crusader, the last of the Navy's single-engine "hot" gunfighters.
To give an idea of the kind of man he was, please permit me to offer a brief war-story
on Skip...I read the narrative about it one time when he wasn't looking
and he's not here to raise hell with me for telling it, so here goes...
One rainy evening about 40 years ago, while serving as an exchange pilot with the
USAF, flying the F-100D fighter-bomber from Tuy Hoa
air base RVN, he was launched, along with one wing man, in response to a call for
help from a small U.S. Special Forces camp.
The camp was located in bad terrain in a neighboring country close to the Viet
Nam border and it was in the process of being overrun by a large force of North
Vietnamese Army regulars. As Skip's flight arrived in the area, the thickening
weather forced the forward air controller and a flight of F-4's which had been
orbiting over the camp to break off and go home with their ordnance undropped.
Skip made FM radio contact with the camp commander and could hear the intensity
of the firefight in the background. The man
said words to the effect that it was all going to be over soon unless some close
air support materialized... He only had about 60
guys and some local irregulars facing what appeared to be a full regiment of NVA...
The enemy had closed to within about 100
meters of the front gate and it was getting dicey.
Skip told him that all he had were "dumb" Mk 82 iron bombs and even if they could
figure out a way to get down into the
valley under the overcast, that was far too close to be delivering them, particularly
attacking up the valley toward the friendlies.
The camp commander radioed back that they would "rather be killed by Americans
than by these bastards" and to bring it on...
Skip asked his Air Force 1LT wingman if he was game to try it and got an affirmative
response. For the next
fifteen minutes, Skip and his wing man alternately pressed home bombing and strafing
attacks in the failing light under the 300 foot
overcast ceiling in the mountain valley. Forced to trust the notoriously inaccurate
tactical maps of the area, they used the peaks of the mountains
they could see poking through the cloud tops to orient their timed dead-reckoning
descents at 400 knots through the solid
clag, breaking out just above the valley floor on each pass and following the river
to the fight at the camp.
Each made four descents into the weather and four attacks... dropping two 500 lb.
bombs on each of the first two passes, and strafing with their four 20 mm cannon
on each of the last two passes.
The NVA attack was disrupted and then aborted... the enemy forces withdrew as darkness
fell. Because of the accuracy of the delivery and some deep digging, no
serious friendly casualties were taken from the bombs or the strafing. The
camp was relieved the following morning.
Each and every American in the camp wrote a personal letter to Skip, and the same
for his wingman. There are some Americans (and their children) walking around
on this planet today because these two pilots refused to leave 60 guys behind
that evening.
The Silver Star Skip received for his deeds that day earned him admission to Arlington
with full honors. That's where he wanted to go, and that's where he will
be taken, probably in January 2006, at a time and date to be determined.
Skip is survived by his loving and courageous wife, Ann... His beloved 180 horsepower
Globe Swift (he owned and flew it 41 years), his trusty old Kolb Ultrastar,
and his big yellow Honda Gold Wing.
This man lived life on his terms right up to the end. He will be missed.
Beauford
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
My sincere salute to Brother Airman Skip.
regards,
Bob N.
ronoy@shentel.net
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
Bill,
My sincerest condolences on the passing of your friend Skip,
I had the privilege to spend a little bit of time with Skip on various
occasions, mostly at SNF airshows and then a couple times at his home
airstrip. I'll remember Skip as a real gentleman with a very pleasant and
upbeat personality and ...with a twinkle in his eyes. Thank you for the
story (again) - wish I had known him longer.
Please pass my condolences on to Ann.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Kolb Listers:
> I Regret to inform you of the passing of "Skip" Staub on 02 November at
Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. It was a long, hard fight and Skip
> gave it his usual all-out, max effort.
>
> Skip was a long-time Kolb Ultrastar owner-pilot, a pioneer member of this
Kolb List, and an American Patriot.
>
> He served 20 years as a U.S. Naval Aviator and was one of that services'
highest time pilots in the
> Vought F8U Crusader, the last of the Navy's single-engine "hot"
gunfighters.
>
> To give an idea of the kind of man he was, please permit me to offer a
brief war-story on Skip...I read the narrative about it one time when he
wasn't looking and he's not here to raise hell with me for telling it, so
here goes...
>
> One rainy evening about 40 years ago, while serving as an exchange pilot
with the USAF, flying the F-100D fighter-bomber from Tuy Hoa
> air base RVN, he was launched, along with one wing man, in response to a
call for help from a small U.S. Special Forces camp.
> The camp was located in bad terrain in a neighboring country close to the
Viet Nam border and it was in the process of being overrun by a large force
of North Vietnamese Army regulars. As Skip's flight arrived in the area, the
thickening weather forced the forward air controller and a flight of F-4's
which had been orbiting over the camp to break off and go home with their
ordnance undropped.
>
> Skip made FM radio contact with the camp commander and could hear the
intensity of the firefight in the background. The man
> said words to the effect that it was all going to be over soon unless some
close air support materialized... He only had about 60
> guys and some local irregulars facing what appeared to be a full regiment
of NVA... The enemy had closed to within about 100
> meters of the front gate and it was getting dicey.
>
> Skip told him that all he had were "dumb" Mk 82 iron bombs and even if
they could figure out a way to get down into the
> valley under the overcast, that was far too close to be delivering them,
particularly attacking up the valley toward the friendlies.
> The camp commander radioed back that they would "rather be killed by
Americans than by these bastards" and to bring it on...
>
> Skip asked his Air Force 1LT wingman if he was game to try it and got an
affirmative response. For the next
> fifteen minutes, Skip and his wing man alternately pressed home bombing
and strafing attacks in the failing light under the 300 foot
> overcast ceiling in the mountain valley. Forced to trust the notoriously
inaccurate tactical maps of the area, they used the peaks of the mountains
> they could see poking through the cloud tops to orient their timed
dead-reckoning descents at 400 knots through the solid
> clag, breaking out just above the valley floor on each pass and following
the river to the fight at the camp.
>
> Each made four descents into the weather and four attacks... dropping two
500 lb. bombs on each of the first two passes, and strafing with their four
20 mm cannon on each of the last two passes.
>
> The NVA attack was disrupted and then aborted... the enemy forces withdrew
as darkness fell. Because of the accuracy of the delivery and some deep
digging, no serious friendly casualties were taken from the bombs or the
strafing. The camp was relieved the following morning.
>
> Each and every American in the camp wrote a personal letter to Skip, and
the same for his wingman. There are some Americans (and their children)
walking around on this planet today because these two pilots refused to
leave 60 guys behind that evening.
>
> The Silver Star Skip received for his deeds that day earned him admission
to Arlington with full honors. That's where he wanted to go, and that's
where he will be taken, probably in January 2006, at a time and date to be
determined.
>
> Skip is survived by his loving and courageous wife, Ann... His beloved
180 horsepower Globe Swift (he owned and flew it 41 years), his trusty old
Kolb Ultrastar, and his big yellow Honda Gold Wing.
>
> This man lived life on his terms right up to the end. He will be missed.
>
> Beauford
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com
Beauford, that story says it all, and i salute him. Best regards, Dave
Culver
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Thanks Beauford, for sharing the inspiring memorial to Skip. -richard
swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
Subject: Kolb-List: U.S. Navy Commander, Departing...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Kolb Listers:
I Regret to inform you of the passing of "Skip" Staub on 02 November at
Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. It was a long, hard fight and Skip
gave it his usual all-out, max effort.
Skip was a long-time Kolb Ultrastar owner-pilot, a pioneer member of this
Kolb List, and an American Patriot.
He served 20 years as a U.S. Naval Aviator and was one of that services'
highest time pilots in the
Vought F8U Crusader, the last of the Navy's single-engine "hot" gunfighters.
To give an idea of the kind of man he was, please permit me to offer a brief
war-story on Skip...I read the narrative about it one time when he wasn't
looking and he's not here to raise hell with me for telling it, so here
goes...
One rainy evening about 40 years ago, while serving as an exchange pilot
with the USAF, flying the F-100D fighter-bomber from Tuy Hoa
air base RVN, he was launched, along with one wing man, in response to a
call for help from a small U.S. Special Forces camp.
The camp was located in bad terrain in a neighboring country close to the
Viet Nam border and it was in the process of being overrun by a large force
of North Vietnamese Army regulars. As Skip's flight arrived in the area, the
thickening weather forced the forward air controller and a flight of F-4's
which had been orbiting over the camp to break off and go home with their
ordnance undropped.
Skip made FM radio contact with the camp commander and could hear the
intensity of the firefight in the background. The man
said words to the effect that it was all going to be over soon unless some
close air support materialized... He only had about 60
guys and some local irregulars facing what appeared to be a full regiment of
NVA... The enemy had closed to within about 100
meters of the front gate and it was getting dicey.
Skip told him that all he had were "dumb" Mk 82 iron bombs and even if they
could figure out a way to get down into the
valley under the overcast, that was far too close to be delivering them,
particularly attacking up the valley toward the friendlies.
The camp commander radioed back that they would "rather be killed by
Americans than by these bastards" and to bring it on...
Skip asked his Air Force 1LT wingman if he was game to try it and got an
affirmative response. For the next
fifteen minutes, Skip and his wing man alternately pressed home bombing and
strafing attacks in the failing light under the 300 foot
overcast ceiling in the mountain valley. Forced to trust the notoriously
inaccurate tactical maps of the area, they used the peaks of the mountains
they could see poking through the cloud tops to orient their timed
dead-reckoning descents at 400 knots through the solid
clag, breaking out just above the valley floor on each pass and following
the river to the fight at the camp.
Each made four descents into the weather and four attacks... dropping two
500 lb. bombs on each of the first two passes, and strafing with their four
20 mm cannon on each of the last two passes.
The NVA attack was disrupted and then aborted... the enemy forces withdrew
as darkness fell. Because of the accuracy of the delivery and some deep
digging, no serious friendly casualties were taken from the bombs or the
strafing. The camp was relieved the following morning.
Each and every American in the camp wrote a personal letter to Skip, and the
same for his wingman. There are some Americans (and their children) walking
around on this planet today because these two pilots refused to leave 60
guys behind that evening.
The Silver Star Skip received for his deeds that day earned him admission to
Arlington with full honors. That's where he wanted to go, and that's where
he will be taken, probably in January 2006, at a time and date to be
determined.
Skip is survived by his loving and courageous wife, Ann... His beloved 180
horsepower Globe Swift (he owned and flew it 41 years), his trusty old Kolb
Ultrastar, and his big yellow Honda Gold Wing.
This man lived life on his terms right up to the end. He will be missed.
Beauford
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Thanks for relating this story Beauford.
I salute Skip.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
18 years flying it
-- "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Kolb Listers:
I Regret to inform you of the passing of "Skip" Staub on 02 November at Moffitt
Cancer Center in Tampa. It was a long, hard fight and Skip
gave it his usual all-out, max effort.
Skip was a long-time Kolb Ultrastar owner-pilot, a pioneer member of this Kolb
List, and an American Patriot.
He served 20 years as a U.S. Naval Aviator and was one of that services' highest
time pilots in the
Vought F8U Crusader, the last of the Navy's single-engine "hot" gunfighters.
To give an idea of the kind of man he was, please permit me to offer a brief war-story
on Skip...I read the narrative about it one time when he wasn't looking
and he's not here to raise hell with me for telling it, so here goes...
One rainy evening about 40 years ago, while serving as an exchange pilot with the
USAF, flying the F-100D fighter-bomber from Tuy Hoa
air base RVN, he was launched, along with one wing man, in response to a call for
help from a small U.S. Special Forces camp.
The camp was located in bad terrain in a neighboring country close to the Viet
Nam border and it was in the process of being overrun by a large force of North
Vietnamese Army regulars. As Skip's flight arrived in the area, the thickening
weather forced the forward air controller and a flight of F-4's which had been
orbiting over the camp to break off and go home with their ordnance undropped.
Skip made FM radio contact with the camp commander and could hear the intensity
of the firefight in the background. The man
said words to the effect that it was all going to be over soon unless some close
air support materialized... He only had about 60
guys and some local irregulars facing what appeared to be a full regiment of NVA...
The enemy had closed to within about 100
meters of the front gate and it was getting dicey.
Skip told him that all he had were "dumb" Mk 82 iron bombs and even if they could
figure out a way to get down into the
valley under the overcast, that was far too close to be delivering them, particularly
attacking up the valley toward the friendlies.
The camp commander radioed back that they would "rather be killed by Americans
than by these bastards" and to bring it on...
Skip asked his Air Force 1LT wingman if he was game to try it and got an affirmative
response. For the next
fifteen minutes, Skip and his wing man alternately pressed home bombing and strafing
attacks in the failing light under the 300 foot
overcast ceiling in the mountain valley. Forced to trust the notoriously inaccurate
tactical maps of the area, they used the peaks of the mountains
they could see poking through the cloud tops to orient their timed dead-reckoning
descents at 400 knots through the solid
clag, breaking out just above the valley floor on each pass and following the river
to the fight at the camp.
Each made four descents into the weather and four attacks... dropping two 500 lb.
bombs on each of the first two passes, and strafing with their four 20 mm cannon
on each of the last two passes.
The NVA attack was disrupted and then aborted... the enemy forces withdrew as darkness
fell. Because of the accuracy of the delivery and some deep digging, no
serious friendly casualties were taken from the bombs or the strafing. The
camp was relieved the following morning.
Each and every American in the camp wrote a personal letter to Skip, and the same
for his wingman. There are some Americans (and their children) walking around
on this planet today because these two pilots refused to leave 60 guys behind
that evening.
The Silver Star Skip received for his deeds that day earned him admission to Arlington
with full honors. That's where he wanted to go, and that's where he will
be taken, probably in January 2006, at a time and date to be determined.
Skip is survived by his loving and courageous wife, Ann... His beloved 180 horsepower
Globe Swift (he owned and flew it 41 years), his trusty old Kolb Ultrastar,
and his big yellow Honda Gold Wing.
This man lived life on his terms right up to the end. He will be missed.
Beauford
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Hey men....check out this Kolb on ebay...at least it says it is a Kolb....If
it is does anyone know what model it is?....
item number 4586199321 if the link does not work.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KOLB-ultralight-aircraft-airplane-ultralite_W0QQitemZ4586199321QQcategoryZ63722QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ultra-Fly????
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Guys like Skip saved my young behind a couple times too. They were
good........Je Me Souvien
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
It appears to be an UltraFlyer or a FlyerStar.
The wings may be from a Kolb Flyer and the tail possibly from an UltraStar
mated together with homebrew fuselage. Flyer wings were lightly built
compared to UltraStar and later wings, they had no full ribs.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on ebay..
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Hey men....check out this Kolb on ebay...at least it says it is a
Kolb....If
> it is does anyone know what model it is?....
> item number 4586199321 if the link does not work.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KOLB-ultralight-aircraft-airplane-ultralite_W
0QQitemZ4586199321QQcategoryZ63722QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> Ultra-Fly????
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb on ebay.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Guys,
That bird is located pretty much in my back yard but looks to me to be a
real contraption, I dont think I would burn the gallon and a half of gas to
go see it!
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, Leechburg, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on ebay..
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
>
> It appears to be an UltraFlyer or a FlyerStar.
>
> The wings may be from a Kolb Flyer and the tail possibly from an UltraStar
> mated together with homebrew fuselage. Flyer wings were lightly built
> compared to UltraStar and later wings, they had no full ribs.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on ebay..
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>>
>> Hey men....check out this Kolb on ebay...at least it says it is a
> Kolb....If
>> it is does anyone know what model it is?....
>> item number 4586199321 if the link does not work.
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KOLB-ultralight-aircraft-airplane-ultralite_W
> 0QQitemZ4586199321QQcategoryZ63722QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
>> Ultra-Fly????
>>
>> Don Gherardini
>> FireFly 098
>> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
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