---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/14/05: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Comments... (Matt Dralle) 2. 02:51 AM - Re: MK lll Trim (Dan Charter) 3. 04:53 AM - Re: Mk II Gear Legs (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com) 4. 05:04 AM - Re: Mk II Gear Legs (kfackler) 5. 05:55 AM - Re: do not archive (Chuck S) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: typing classes (woody) 7. 07:17 AM - Re: do not archive (woody) 8. 07:25 AM - Re: Apology to all on the Kolb list (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 9. 07:29 AM - Re: do not archive (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 10. 07:40 AM - Re: do not archive (Larry Bourne) 11. 09:09 AM - Do Not Archive (Jimmy) 12. 10:24 AM - venting of 912 oil system (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com) 13. 10:33 AM - Re: typing classes (Bob N.) 14. 11:28 AM - Re: Do Not Archive (Larry Cottrell) 15. 02:02 PM - Rest of The Story (frank & margie) 16. 02:09 PM - Re: Do Not Archive (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 17. 02:11 PM - Re: MK lll Trim (Jim Ballenger) 18. 03:17 PM - Re: MK lll Trim (Cat36Fly@aol.com) 19. 05:23 PM - Re: Rest of The Story (Larry Bourne) 20. 05:24 PM - Re: Do Not Archive (Larry Bourne) 21. 06:04 PM - Aero Vee Engine Kit (John Abbott) 22. 06:23 PM - Re: Aero Vee Engine Kit (Ian Heritch) 23. 06:30 PM - Re: (DCulver701@aol.com) 24. 07:19 PM - Re: (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 25. 07:41 PM - Re: Aero Vee Engine Kit (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 26. 08:52 PM - Re: do not archive (woody) 27. 08:53 PM - Re: Apology to all on the Kolb list (Jim Clayton) 28. 08:57 PM - Re: do not archive (woody) 29. 09:30 PM - Re: do not archive (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:43 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Comments... --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, I'd like say thank you to everyone that has already made a Contribution during this year's List Fund Raiser! 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Richard T. ==================== What Listers Are Saying - Vol II ==================== Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:25 AM PST US From: "Dan Charter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK lll Trim --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" Before I did anything else with the plane I'd get the R's up to at least 6250. My 2 cents. Do not archive. Dan Charter Firestar 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK lll Trim > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com > > Jim; > > My climb was at WOT. I am not sure my tach is dead on as I seldom see 6000 > RPM. I plan to do some prop pitch testing after I get the critter to do fairly > straight and level. So far the weather gods have been good to me and I got > 1.7 in on Saturday. > Next is an elevator trim tab by next weekend! > > Larry > > > -- > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk II Gear Legs From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com 06:51:54 AM, Serialize complete at 11/14/2005 06:51:54 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 11/14/2005 06:52:42 AM, Serialize by Router on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 11/14/2005 06:52:43 AM, Serialize complete at 11/14/2005 06:52:43 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com Ken, tell us more about your fiberglass legs. The Flying Farmer repairing bent leg sockets do not archive "kfackler" Sent by: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com 11/12/2005 10:09 PM Please respond to kolb-list@matronics.com To cc Subject Re: Kolb-List: Mk II Gear Legs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" Mine are 1.25", though mine are fiberglass. -Ken Fackler Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob and Jenn B" Subject: Kolb-List: Mk II Gear Legs > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" > > Can someone please tell me the size of the Mk II gear legs, are they 1 1/4" > or 1 3/8"? I'm switching from the original sleeved gear to the solid > aluminum. Travis thinks they are 1 1/4" but I can't tell without taking my > out first. > > Bob > Mk II 503 SCSI > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:04 AM PST US From: "kfackler" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk II Gear Legs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" > Ken, tell us more about your fiberglass legs. Well, I'm willing, but not sure what to say. Unlike most of you chaps, I'm not a builder. I bought the plane ready to fly and it had fiberglass gear legs. It never occured to me to question that. Along the way, I "discovered" that my plane doesn't have the standard Kolb axle fittings which take the tapered aluminum legs. The fittings on mine appear to have been homemade and are for a constant diameter tube, which of course works well with the fiberglass. In trying to find replacements, I also learned that fiberglass comes in various strengths, which is probably old news to any of the true builders. The legs have a strength rating of 100k. Please don't ask me what that means, however! One of my flying buddies, Mark Gray, a Firestar driver, monitors the List on a semi-occasional basis. He's a brilliant engineer and could undoubtedly shed some light. Hopefully he'll see this and add his comments. -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI dna ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:05 AM PST US From: "Chuck S" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" if it is 4 X's in Canada, how many would it be is the USA ??? Just checking! ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > I try to use do not archive when offering unwanted opinions on the list. > However I am a poor typist and like many find it a lot of extra typing. > Perhaps Matt could change the "do not archive" rule and also accept 4 X'S > in > a row ( xxxx ) as meaning do not archive. Would simplify things and may be > used more often. Just another dumb idea from Canada. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eugene Zimmerman" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > >> >> Dear Crazzzy, >> >> Please remember to use the "DO NOT POST " option when YOU write to >> new builders on the Kolb list. >> >> WHAT GOOD IS THE ARCHIVE IF THE PEOPLE WITH THE QUESTIONS ARE DRIVEN >> AWAY? >> >> Using the option of not archiving is completely voluntary for each >> individual but is a totally unnecessary. >> A good search engine can deal with all the drivel you will ever write. >> >> YOU can not control what others write but you can make them feel >> unwelcome on the Kolb list whenever you try. >> >> >> Please DO archive. >> >> >> -- >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:21 AM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: typing classes --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" I took typing in grade nine almost 40 years ago and still remember the basics. xxxx is still easier and faster than do not archive > P.S. In 9th grade, lo, those many years ago, I was stuck with a choice of > cooking class or typing class. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:00 AM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" I hadn't counted on the exchange rate. I just figured that 3 x's might pop up on the rare occasion but 4 would not. do not archive ----- > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" > > if it is 4 X's in Canada, how many would it be is the USA ??? > Just checking! > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:16 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Apology to all on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Gee, Mike - Looks like you're being a bit harsh on Scott for an innocent and otherwise very legitimate post. It does not seem like Mr Thompson is the one who should be offering the apology ... << Icrashrc@aol.com wrote: Please share more information on the trim system. Was it posted on the Kolb list? Are there any pictures posted? I wasn't able to find anything more in the archives but I'm not the best at searching either. Thank you! Scott Thompson >> << planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: One of the BIGGEST reasons it's hard to find something in the archives.... It's because people put the kind of CRAP Gee, Mike Looks like youre being a bit harsh on Scott for an innocent and otherwise very legitimate post. It does not seem like Mr Thompson is the one who should be offering the apology ... Icrashrc@aol.com wrote: Please share more information on the trim system. Was it posted on the Kolb list? Are there any pictures posted? I wasn't able to find anything more in the archives but I'm not the best at searching either. Thank you! Scott Thompson planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: One of the BIGGEST reasons it's hard to find something in the archives.... It's because people put the kind of CRAP , like what YOU just added to them ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:27 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Woody Wouldn't it be easer for Canadians to type XXXXa. Please do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > I hadn't counted on the exchange rate. I just figured that 3 x's might > pop > up on the rare occasion but 4 would not. > > do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:27 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Hi Woody, I'm not sure if this should go on the Kolb List or not, but down here, XXX is the rating for hardcore porno movies. I was pulling your leg a little. :-) Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > I hadn't counted on the exchange rate. I just figured that 3 x's might > pop > up on the rare occasion but 4 would not. > > do not archive > > > ----- > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" >> >> if it is 4 X's in Canada, how many would it be is the USA ??? >> Just checking! >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:46 AM PST US From: "Jimmy" Subject: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" For those that forget to put Do Not Archive a the end of some messages, it might be easier to use the signature icon on your mail site. I have my Do Not Archive on the end of my address, and it is automatically inserted along with my address. If I want to have my message archived I just erase it. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly 035 JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: venting of 912 oil system From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com 11/14/2005 01:23:59 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Dennis: A few years back I talked to Todd at Lockwood about all this. Cant remember his exact words, but the gist of it was this is a lot of fuss over very little and is not likely to affect you. Cycle the prop when changing oil as described by John H. On a related note, its easy to misread your oil level on the 912 because the oil typically drains down into the crank case when its been sitting. You can either check it when its still hot (ouch!) or, when its not hot, remove the filler cap and rotate the prop until you hear the unmistakable sound of a toilet flush coming from the oil tank, and then check the oil level. Sometimes it takes quite a few prop revolutions until I get the flushing sound. I go through this routine as part of every pre-flight. regards Erich Weaver ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:48 AM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: typing classes --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." Aw, gee...I took cooking BECAUSE there were GIRLS in the class. Besides, having two or more thumbs on each hand meant I could get a lot of bowl-lickin; done. an fer dang sure...Do Not Archive regards, Bob N. ronoy@shentel.net http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:17 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy" > For those that forget to put Do Not Archive a the end of some messages, it > might be easier to use the signature icon on your mail site. I personally would prefer the xxxx routine, I have never used a signature routine in my emails. It works for some people, but I would feel funny doing it. With the type of friends that I have it could be a bit of a pain to explain why I wouldn't want them to archive the words of wisdom? that I occasionally spout. Actually I think most of the problem with remembering to add that routine is that most of us are cautious of getting stepped on if we are so foolish as to post to the list. Some people seem to be immune from caustic remarks, but that has never been my experience. So most of us only post to the list as a last resort, or if we are really incensed.Then we forget to add the archive disclaimer. Not an alibi, just a thought. Larry, Oregon do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:32 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: "frank & margie" I wasn't there when it happened---he told me that once he cleared the trees, he did a wingover and brought it back in. I forgot to ask how he shut it off; I don't know if he used the choke, or loosened the seatbelt so he could reach the switch. Frank Do Not Archive ----------------------------------------------- From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stuck Throttle Cable Splitter --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Frank, you got us waiting for "the rest of the story". How did he manage the landing? -BB, do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:41 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Larry/All Wow I would hope you are the only one that feels the concern that they might get stepped on for saying something. I feel the most stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked for what ever reason. Please ask those questions. As for answering questions we have a large number of VERY knowledgeable people and you will be corrected if your information isn't correct but it needs to be that way. Bad information could be deadly. I have seen some very rude comments and for the most part those people have been discouraged from further comments. Please keep it nice and consider how other people might feel about your comments. If you feel you comments are on the edge or worse of being nice please don't say it. I'm not the moderator, Matt is the only moderator. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy" > >> For those that forget to put Do Not Archive a the end of some messages, >> it >> might be easier to use the signature icon on your mail site. > > > I personally would prefer the xxxx routine, I have never used a signature > routine in my emails. It works for some people, but I would feel funny > doing > it. With the type of friends that I have it could be a bit of a pain to > explain why I wouldn't want them to archive the words of wisdom? that I > occasionally spout. Actually I think most of the problem with remembering > to > add that routine is that most of us are cautious of getting stepped on if > we > are so foolish as to post to the list. Some people seem to be immune from > caustic remarks, but that has never been my experience. So most of us only > post to the list as a last resort, or if we are really incensed.Then we > forget to add the archive disclaimer. Not an alibi, just a thought. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:33 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK lll Trim --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Larry I checked mine, an EIS, with a handheld tach that the RC plane folks use. Works great just do the math for the gear ratio. Are you going to raise or lower your HZ leading edge to obtain the best position for your weight? I need to use my elevator trim as I select different throttle positions and as fuel burns off to maintain level flight. I got 1.5 hours Sunday. Jim Ballenger MK III X 582 Virginia Beach, VA Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK lll Trim > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com > > Jim; > > My climb was at WOT. I am not sure my tach is dead on as I seldom see 6000 > RPM. I plan to do some prop pitch testing after I get the critter to do > fairly > straight and level. So far the weather gods have been good to me and I got > 1.7 in on Saturday. > Next is an elevator trim tab by next weekend! > > Larry > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:34 PM PST US From: Cat36Fly@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK lll Trim --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com Jim; Got an hour tonight in calm conditions. At 5500 rpm I can hold a steady pitch attitude but when I throttle back to 4500-5000 the nose starts to rise. I'm sure it's a combination of engine thrust line and my weight (or lack of). I plan to add a tab and set it up for a bit of nose down when the trim handle is all the way forward (cable relaxed). Larry do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:28 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" He did a wing-over at low altitude with an engine stuck at 3/4 throttle ?? (did I remember that part right ??) Hooo-eeeee...........better man than I am, Charley Brown. Lar. Do not Archive. P.S. Jimmy, I really like your idea of the D.N.A. in the signature, but hafta agree with Larry. It'd become awkward in emails to others. Lar. xxxx Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "frank & margie" > > > I wasn't there when it happened---he told me that once he cleared the > trees, he did a wingover and brought it back in. I forgot to ask how he > shut it off; I don't know if he used the choke, or loosened the seatbelt > so he could reach the switch. > > Frank > > Do Not Archive > ----------------------------------------------- > > > From: robert bean > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stuck Throttle Cable Splitter > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Frank, you got us waiting for "the rest of the story". How did he > manage the landing? > -BB, do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:47 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" And I hafta agree with you 1000%, Richard. Well said. Lar. Do not Archive. xxxx Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do Not Archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > > Larry/All > > Wow I would hope you are the only one that feels the concern that they > might > get stepped on for saying something. I feel the most stupid question is > the > one that doesn't get asked for what ever reason. Please ask those > questions. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:18 PM PST US From: "John Abbott" Subject: Kolb-List: Aero Vee Engine Kit --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Abbott" I am doing some research on engine options for the Mark III X I am building. I came across a very affordable Aero Vee Engine Kit by Aero Conversions, Inc.. It is a fraction of the price ( $5,700) of a Jab 2200 ot a Rotax 912. 1. Does anyone have any experience with this engine and/or assembling the kit? 2 What is your experience with using it on a Mark III? Is it a good match for the aircraft? Thanks for your comments. John Abbott Building Mk3X ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:43 PM PST US From: "Ian Heritch" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Aero Vee Engine Kit --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ian Heritch" John, You may already know this, but, Aero Conversions Inc is a sister company to Sonex who seem to have a good reputation (especially if you do things their way). There are several Yahoo groups lists moderated by Sonex and I believe there is one list dedicated to the Aero Vee and their carb. I cannot help you with your second question, others on this list will be able to opine. Ian Heritch Slingshot 912 Sonex Jab 3300 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Abbott" I am doing some research on engine options for the Mark III X I am building. I came across a very affordable Aero Vee Engine Kit by Aero Conversions, Inc.. It is a fraction of the price ( $5,700) of a Jab 2200 ot a Rotax 912. 1. Does anyone have any experience with this engine and/or assembling the kit? 2 What is your experience with using it on a Mark III? Is it a good match for the aircraft? ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:41 PM PST US From: DCulver701@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: --> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com Hi Ellery, check out aerotwinmotors.com in response to you wanting to know of a 4-stroke replacement engine for the firestar. Don't think it will be available here for quite a while, but who knows. Look how well the Jab engines are doing, from down under. Gotta say, i really enjoy the list, and as a non-flyer i'm learning a lot from a lot of veteran pilots here. Best regards, Dave Culver ---- Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:35 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Dave you got me drooling now Thanks Ellery do not archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:36 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aero Vee Engine Kit --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" John You may want to review the archives on this. I flew a direct drive Great Plains 2180cc VW conversion on a MKIIIc for four years. It was a marginal single place airplane with that engine. When I changed the engine to a reduction drive VW the difference was hard to believe. I run the engine at the same RPMs as I did direct drive and it easily produces twice the thrust. I now have a two place airplane that cruises at least 10 MPH faster at a lower power settings. The Areo Vee is basically the same direct drive engine that I had. You will not be happy. Direct drive engines that produce their power over 3000 will not produce the thrust that that you will want for a MKIIIc or x. The price difference for a VW is captivating. The engine works well as a airplane engine but requires allot of custom work to get it all working right. I'm close to having a good set up for the MKIII but the reliability hasn't been proven yet. The biggest problem still is a good reduction drive. I use a Valley reduction drive which is the most proven drive for VWs but others are looking a gear drive units that might just be the ticket. Again check the archives and if I can be of any help just let me know. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Abbott" Subject: Kolb-List: Aero Vee Engine Kit > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Abbott" > > I am doing some research on engine options for the Mark III X I am > building. I came across a very affordable Aero Vee Engine Kit by Aero > Conversions, Inc.. It is a fraction of the price ( $5,700) of a Jab 2200 > ot a Rotax 912. > > 1. Does anyone have any experience with this engine and/or assembling the > kit? > 2 What is your experience with using it on a Mark III? Is it a good match > for the aircraft? > > Thanks for your comments. > John Abbott > Building Mk3X > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:39 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" Hard to believe a Kolber would pull anothers leg. I guess I can still learn something every day. I hear down in Haucks Holler thats how they mark the hard cider. ] do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > Hi Woody, I'm not sure if this should go on the Kolb List or not, but down > here, XXX is the rating for hardcore porno movies. I was pulling your leg a > little. :-) Lar. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "woody" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > > > I hadn't counted on the exchange rate. I just figured that 3 x's might > > pop > > up on the rare occasion but 4 would not. > > > > do not archive > > > > > > ----- > > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck S" > >> > >> if it is 4 X's in Canada, how many would it be is the USA ??? > >> Just checking! > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:59 PM PST US From: Jim Clayton Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Apology to all on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton Hi Scott/everyone, Sorry you were treated so rudely, and I encourage you to keep posting; the more friendly interesting questions asked the better off we all are here. I worked with friends the come up with the electric trim and tab because that is what I wanted, for the mission I had in mind. I have experience building complex systems, and my plane has complex systems that suit me. They won't suit everyone, and for some reason I can't understand, when I report on something I am working on, one or two folks take it as an affront to aviation and flame away without understanding anything about me or my project. My friends understand I have a large group of advisors that have to unanimously approve my hairbrained ideas, and I always do some kind of testing and failure mode analysis before a change makes it onto my plane. I do this stuff at work all day so it's fun for me. My methods are not for everyone: several good friends on this list have reminded me finishing the plane and flying it before I retire would be nice :-) I try to temper my enjoyment of re-engineering stuff with my desire to fly someday. The best part of sharing with this group is for every nincompoop with nothing but flames to offer, there are hundreds with great advice and valuable wisdom to share. So back to the electric trim. It is currently a great idea I need to build and verify. When I have parts made and the geometry worked out, I will share it with the group. While this trim scheme suits me, several have recently pointed out the bungee trim works well (and has for 20 years+ on Kolbs) so please don't infer just because I mess with the design of my Kolb it's because the original is substandard or inferior. Kolbs are a stout and well designed family of planes, and if testing and failure mode analysis don't interest you, KEEP IT STOCK and you won't go wrong. Ok Scott, keep up the questions; what else you got :-) Good luck on your project, do keep us posted on your progress. -Jim Jim Clayton California Mark-3X, 912ULS.....Building www.quantumwrench.com/Kolb.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Icrashrc@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Apology to all on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: Icrashrc@aol.com Apparently I've violated some secret elevator trim handshake and have left at least one person offended. While I knew not to ask the dreaded Seafoam question I had no idea asking a simple question could be so offensive. I've been lurking here a while now, finally bought a kit and figured I could ask a question or two. Guess I was wrong. I'll have to trade up to a Fergie I guess [see, I know I wasn't supposed to say that]! Ya'll take care, I'm going back to silent mode. Scott In a message dated 11/12/2005 8:31:48 AM US Eastern Standard Time, planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: Hi, One of the BIGGEST reasons it's hard to find something in the archives.... It's because people put the kind of CRAP , like what YOU just added to them !!! Gotta Fly... Mike in MN N381PM Time: 05:00:35 AM PST US From: Icrashrc@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III vs Mark III Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: Icrashrc@aol.com Please share more information on the trim system. Was it posted on the Kolb list? Are there any pictures posted? I wasn't able to find anything more in the archives but I'm not the best at searching either. Thank you! Scott Thompson {tapping my fingers waiting for my Mark III X to show up} ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:33 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" Is does get complicated when we have to teach you Mercans it would be XXXXeh do not archive. When are we going to switch to xxxx. I'm getting tired of typing do not archive. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > Woody > > Wouldn't it be easer for Canadians to type XXXXa. > > Please do not archive > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:42 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Uh..........I thought they did that by *lifting* their leg.........?? :-) Lar. Do not Archive. xxxx (is this official yet ??) P.S. I'm gonna swat the 1st guy who adds "o's" to those x's. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > Hard to believe a Kolber would pull anothers leg. I guess I can still > learn > something every day. I hear down in Haucks Holler thats how they mark the > hard cider. > ] > do not archive >