---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/20/05: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:26 AM - Re: Rest of The Story (GeoR38@aol.com) 2. 03:48 AM - Re: Do N*t Archive Flag... (GeoR38@aol.com) 3. 04:38 AM - Re: Xtra (Cat36Fly@aol.com) 4. 06:07 AM - space cadets (robert bean) 5. 06:52 AM - Re: Xtra (Todd Fredricks) 6. 06:55 AM - Re: space cadets (woody) 7. 07:35 AM - Re: space cadets (Larry Bourne) 8. 07:40 AM - Re: Rest of The Story (Larry Bourne) 9. 08:01 AM - Re: Rest of The Story (robert bean) 10. 08:25 AM - Re: space cadets (Wayne T. McCullough) 11. 11:08 AM - Re: space cadets (pat ladd) 12. 11:19 AM - Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page (John Bickham) 13. 11:27 AM - Re: Do N*t Archive Flag... (Kolbdriver) 14. 11:47 AM - Re: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page (Larry Bourne) 15. 12:06 PM - Re: Rest of The Story (Larry Bourne) 16. 01:08 PM - Re: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page (John Hauck) 17. 03:03 PM - MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE (Jim Ballenger) 18. 04:20 PM - Re: MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE (John Hauck) 19. 06:12 PM - Re: MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE (Cat36Fly@aol.com) 20. 06:17 PM - Re: Xtra (Cat36Fly@aol.com) 21. 06:30 PM - DNA (russ kinne) 22. 06:49 PM - Re: DNA (John Hauck) 23. 07:09 PM - Re: Xtra (Todd Fredricks) 24. 07:09 PM - Re: DNA (bryan green) 25. 07:35 PM - FireFly Tail Cable Ends (Jack B. Hart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:48 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 11/14/2005 8:23:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, biglar@gogittum.com writes: P.S. Jimmy, I really like your idea of the D.N.A. in the signature, but hafta agree with Larry. It'd become awkward in emails to others. Lar. xxxx Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com Larry, I can't believe you said that....awkward??!! ...NO WAY, It is BECAUSE of Jimmy that I now have this signoff signature which is always going to be part of my emails....thank you Jimmy.........well, does everyone get the drift that I most certainly did not say this with the proper respect to be shown Mr Biglar. He is most assuredly entitled to his position and I have mine. The other important observation is that I am soooooo far behind on my newsgroup emails. I visited the EAA chapter in Leesburg Fl yesterday and will probably join....nice group of guys there. Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991 Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:18 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do N*t Archive Flag... --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com Come on guys, if you can build and fly an airplane, you can type three words to indicate that your message shouldn't be appended to the archive....by Matt Draille Geeez, how come we never looked at it that way? Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991 Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:40 AM PST US From: Cat36Fly@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com Todd; What I received in my kit was an oval instrument pod. They are shown in the CPS catalog. I managed to squeeze in an Alt, AS, ROC, Bank Indicator, Tach, and Compass. It took some tinkering and bulging out one small area for the compass but it worked. Good Luck Larry Tasker MKlllX N615RT do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:35 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: space cadets --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Kolbers, please pardon me for entering random garbage. do not archive For those needing a reason of some kind for buying an Aircraft I have read many posts on the web site from members and on MMAIL who are thinking about owning their own aircraft and looking for ways to offset the cost of ownership. I have heard many reasons for and against ownership. Why buy an aircraft? It's cheaper to rent and you do not have all the hassle with maintenance, fuel and insurance. Well, here is a little story that I think explains it all as to why I own my own airplane. It was a beautiful Saturday morning. No winds and the temperature was just right. So instead of mowing the lawn like my wife had planned for me, I decided to go to the airport and take the Sport out for a run. She yells back at me, "WELL IF YOU GO, TAKE YOUR SON WITH YOU." So I ask my son. Want to go flying with dad? In which he says Yea, Can I take my light saber? You see, my 9 year son thinks he is a Jedi Knight and that our Sport is his personal X-Wing fighter. He is only 4'5 and has to sit on a pillow in order to see over the glare shield and he always carries his light saber just in case we land on a strange planet in which there might be trouble or civil un-rest. Always prepared this one is. So away we go. THERE I WAS=85=85.. We were straight and level at around 6,000ft and I let him take the controls of the X-Wing to do some turns to the left and right. Joshua Approach called and said there was traffic at our 2'oclock 2 miles opposite direction and My son said to me "Look over there dad, Tie fighter coming right at us". I told him to steer clear of the Tie Fighter because our lasers were out for repair and we were un-armed. No reason to provoke a fight. So even though he is having a blast, I am starting to get a little bored and thought, "Let's go do a practice approach on the ILS". So I called Joshua Approach, requested the ILS 25 Approach to Palmdale Full Approach and off we went. I maneuvered the X-Wing to the VOR and started the turn outbound to the outer marker. Now my son is just really enjoying this. At the outer marker, the blue light started to flash and you could hear the BEEP in the headset. My Son jumps in and said "That Tie Fighter has locked on to us" I said "That's Right" and I started my evasive maneuver on the procedure turn. My Son is listening to the exchange between me and the controller and wants to chime in on the conversion. I said to my son, "Just hang on; I will give you a chance". I never should have said that because now he is all excited to talk on the radio. As I start to turn inbound on the turn, the Approach control said "Contact tower when established on the localizer". So I told my young Padawan Learner "OK, when this needle gets here on the dial, push the radio button and tell the tower that 93 Romeo is inbound on the localizer". Now imagine this, I am giving basic instrument instruction to a 9 year old, I cannot get adults to say this during training. So before I can give him something simpler to say he keys the mike and says "REBEL BASE, THIS IS RED 5. WE ARE STARTING OUR ATTACK RUN ON THE DEATH STAR". Good God. Now this post 9/11 and before I can key my mike and say anything, the tower jumps on and says "RED 5, YOUR CLEARED FOR THE APPROACH TO THE DEATH STAR. REPORTS HITS AWAY" Now I am waiting for the tower to add "And tell your dad to call this number" But I hear nothing else. So we continue the approach. Now my son is in heaven. This is real life stuff to him and he is doing everything I tell him to do as far as tracking the needle. As we approach the outer marker inbound, the light starts to flash and there is that tone again. "Dad, the Death Star has a lock on us". Yes Son, you keep on the approach, I will worry about the guns. Everything is going great and now we are approaching the middle marker. My son has noticed the GPS has a red line with an airplane on it and it ends at the Death Star. So he asks me "IS THAT A TARGETING COMPUTER DAD?" Well of course it is, and it shows us where we are to the target. So now he hears Obewan tell him to USE THE FORCE SCOTT and he turns the GPS OFF. Tells me he is OK and does not need the targeting computer because he is using the FORCE. Now the middle marker light flashes and the tone comes on. I apply full power and the airplane,,,X-Wing,,, Starts a climb. I start the turn to the missed approach path when my son keys the mike and says "HITS AWAY". The tower answers back with "GOOD JOB RED 5, CONTACT REBEL APPROACH ON 126.1" We go back to Mojave SPACEPORT, and I decide that the X-Wing needs a bath. So out comes all the cleaning stuff and we spend the rest of the day washing and waxing the turbo jets and laser pods. So you see. This is why I own my own aircraft. You cannot beat this kind of quality time with your kids. And there is no way you can put a price on that. Jeff Bryant Southwest Regional Director Beech Aero Club 1975 X-Wing Fighter Model B-19 N6993R ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra From: Todd Fredricks --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks Dimensions? Do not archive On 11/20/05 7:37 AM, "Cat36Fly@aol.com" wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com > > Todd; > > What I received in my kit was an oval instrument pod. They are shown in the > CPS catalog. I managed to squeeze in an Alt, AS, ROC, Bank Indicator, Tach, > and Compass. It took some tinkering and bulging out one small area for the > compass but it worked. Good Luck > > Larry Tasker > MKlllX N615RT > > do not archive > > > > > > -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com POWERED BY MAC ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:13 AM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: space cadets --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" A story like that should be archived. ----- Original Message ----- > > > For those needing a reason of some kind for buying an Aircraft > > I have read many posts on the web site from members and on MMAIL who > are thinking about owning their own aircraft and looking for ways to > offset the cost of ownership. I have heard many reasons for and > against ownership. Why buy an aircraft? It's cheaper to rent and you > do not have all the hassle with maintenance, fuel and insurance. Well, > here is a little story that I think explains it all as to why I own my > own airplane. > > It was a beautiful Saturday morning. No winds and the temperature was > just right. So instead of mowing the lawn like my wife had planned for > me, I decided to go to the airport and take the Sport out for a run. > She yells back at me, "WELL IF YOU GO, TAKE YOUR SON WITH YOU." So I > ask my son. Want to go flying with dad? In which he says Yea, Can I > take my light saber? > > You see, my 9 year son thinks he is a Jedi Knight and that our Sport > is his personal X-Wing fighter. He is only 4'5 and has to sit on a > pillow in order to see over the glare shield and he always carries his > light saber just in case we land on a strange planet in which there > might be trouble or civil un-rest. Always prepared this one is. So > away we go. > > > THERE I WAS=85=85.. > > We were straight and level at around 6,000ft and I let him take the > controls of the X-Wing to do some turns to the left and right. Joshua > Approach called and said there was traffic at our 2'oclock 2 miles > opposite direction and My son said to me "Look over there dad, Tie > fighter coming right at us". I told him to steer clear of the Tie > Fighter because our lasers were out for repair and we were un-armed. > No reason to provoke a fight. > > So even though he is having a blast, I am starting to get a little > bored and thought, "Let's go do a practice approach on the ILS". So I > called Joshua Approach, requested the ILS 25 Approach to Palmdale Full > Approach and off we went. I maneuvered the X-Wing to the VOR and > started the turn outbound to the outer marker. Now my son is just > really enjoying this. At the outer marker, the blue light started to > flash and you could hear the BEEP in the headset. My Son jumps in and > said "That Tie Fighter has locked on to us" I said "That's Right" and > I started my evasive maneuver on the procedure turn. > > My Son is listening to the exchange between me and the controller and > wants to chime in on the conversion. I said to my son, "Just hang on; > I will give you a chance". I never should have said that because now > he is all excited to talk on the radio. As I start to turn inbound on > the turn, the Approach control said "Contact tower when established on > the localizer". So I told my young Padawan Learner "OK, when this > needle gets here on the dial, push the radio button and tell the tower > that 93 Romeo is inbound on the localizer". > > Now imagine this, I am giving basic instrument instruction to a 9 year > old, I cannot get adults to say this during training. So before I can > give him something simpler to say he keys the mike and says > > "REBEL BASE, THIS IS RED 5. WE ARE STARTING OUR ATTACK RUN ON THE > DEATH STAR". > > Good God. > > Now this post 9/11 and before I can key my mike and say anything, the > tower jumps on and says "RED 5, YOUR CLEARED FOR THE APPROACH TO THE > DEATH STAR. REPORTS HITS AWAY" > > Now I am waiting for the tower to add "And tell your dad to call this > number" But I hear nothing else. So we continue the approach. Now my > son is in heaven. This is real life stuff to him and he is doing > everything I tell him to do as far as tracking the needle. As we > approach the outer marker inbound, the light starts to flash and there > is that tone again. "Dad, the Death Star has a lock on us". Yes Son, > you keep on the approach, I will worry about the guns. > > Everything is going great and now we are approaching the middle > marker. My son has noticed the GPS has a red line with an airplane on > it and it ends at the Death Star. So he asks me "IS THAT A TARGETING > COMPUTER DAD?" Well of course it is, and it shows us where we are to > the target. So now he hears Obewan tell him to USE THE FORCE SCOTT and > he turns the GPS OFF. Tells me he is OK and does not need the > targeting computer because he is using the FORCE. > > Now the middle marker light flashes and the tone comes on. I apply > full power and the airplane,,,X-Wing,,, Starts a climb. I start the > turn to the missed approach path when my son keys the mike and says > "HITS AWAY". The tower answers back with "GOOD JOB RED 5, CONTACT > REBEL APPROACH ON 126.1" > > We go back to Mojave SPACEPORT, and I decide that the X-Wing needs a > bath. So out comes all the cleaning stuff and we spend the rest of the > day washing and waxing the turbo jets and laser pods. > > So you see. This is why I own my own aircraft. You cannot beat this > kind of quality time with your kids. And there is no way you can put a > price on that. > > > Jeff Bryant > Southwest Regional Director > Beech Aero Club > 1975 X-Wing Fighter Model B-19 > N6993R > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:21 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: space cadets --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Naw, not random garbage, Bob. I found it highly entertaining, and definitely flying connected. I hafta give that controller honors for his sense of humor when recognizing a kids voice on the radio. :-) ........and can also picture his dad's consternation. If I didn't like it, the delete button is right there. I'd like to see more stories like that. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Subject: Kolb-List: space cadets > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Kolbers, please pardon me for entering random garbage. > do not archive > > > For those needing a reason of some kind for buying an Aircraft > > I have read many posts on the web site from members and on MMAIL who > are thinking about owning their own aircraft and looking for ways to > offset the cost of ownership. I have heard many reasons for and ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:37 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Not a problem, George, and no offense taken. This is why we have individual choice. For me, I have enuf email traffic off-List that Larry's reasoning applies to me, too. Also, due to that 9th grade class and 8 yrs of computers now, I'm a VERY fast typist, tho' I couldn't compete with a professional secretary. Do not Archive takes about 3 seconds. Speedy Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story > --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com > > > In a message dated 11/14/2005 8:23:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > biglar@gogittum.com writes: > > > P.S. Jimmy, I really like your idea of the D.N.A. in the signature, but > hafta agree with Larry. It'd become awkward in emails to others. > Lar. xxxx > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > > Larry, I can't believe you said that....awkward??!! ...NO WAY, It is > BECAUSE > of Jimmy that I now have this signoff signature which is always going to > be ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:10 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Speedy Lar? Speedy Lar? Did I read that right? ok, who's going to step up to the plate on that one? ;) do not archive On 20, Nov 2005, at 10:40 AM, Larry Bourne wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > Not a problem, George, and no offense taken. This is why we have > individual > choice. For me, I have enuf email traffic off-List that Larry's > reasoning > applies to me, too. Also, due to that 9th grade class and 8 yrs of > computers now, I'm a VERY fast typist, tho' I couldn't compete with a > professional secretary. Do not Archive takes about 3 seconds. > Speedy Lar. Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com >> >> >> In a message dated 11/14/2005 8:23:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> biglar@gogittum.com writes: >> >> >> P.S. Jimmy, I really like your idea of the D.N.A. in the >> signature, but >> hafta agree with Larry. It'd become awkward in emails to others. >> Lar. xxxx >> >> Larry Bourne >> Palm Springs, CA >> Building Kolb Mk III >> N78LB Vamoose >> www.gogittum.com >> >> >> Larry, I can't believe you said that....awkward??!! ...NO WAY, It is >> BECAUSE >> of Jimmy that I now have this signoff signature which is always going >> to >> be > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:08 AM PST US From: "Wayne T. McCullough" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: space cadets --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" As a EAA president .....I would like to say after wiping the tears of laughter out of my eyes................that.............. THIS IS GREAT ......I must share with club members......... Wayne McCullough Kolbra # 4 Coming along with the rest of us 50 plus "KIDS" ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Subject: Kolb-List: space cadets > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Kolbers, please pardon me for entering random garbage. > do not archive > > > For those needing a reason of some kind for buying an Aircraft > > I have read many posts on the web site from members and on MMAIL who > are thinking about owning their own aircraft and looking for ways to > offset the cost of ownership. I have heard many reasons for and > against ownership. Why buy an aircraft? It's cheaper to rent and you > do not have all the hassle with maintenance, fuel and insurance. Well, > here is a little story that I think explains it all as to why I own my > own airplane. > > It was a beautiful Saturday morning. No winds and the temperature was > just right. So instead of mowing the lawn like my wife had planned for > me, I decided to go to the airport and take the Sport out for a run. > She yells back at me, "WELL IF YOU GO, TAKE YOUR SON WITH YOU." So I > ask my son. Want to go flying with dad? In which he says Yea, Can I > take my light saber? > > You see, my 9 year son thinks he is a Jedi Knight and that our Sport > is his personal X-Wing fighter. He is only 4'5 and has to sit on a > pillow in order to see over the glare shield and he always carries his > light saber just in case we land on a strange planet in which there > might be trouble or civil un-rest. Always prepared this one is. So > away we go. > > > THERE I WAS=85=85.. > > We were straight and level at around 6,000ft and I let him take the > controls of the X-Wing to do some turns to the left and right. Joshua > Approach called and said there was traffic at our 2'oclock 2 miles > opposite direction and My son said to me "Look over there dad, Tie > fighter coming right at us". I told him to steer clear of the Tie > Fighter because our lasers were out for repair and we were un-armed. > No reason to provoke a fight. > > So even though he is having a blast, I am starting to get a little > bored and thought, "Let's go do a practice approach on the ILS". So I > called Joshua Approach, requested the ILS 25 Approach to Palmdale Full > Approach and off we went. I maneuvered the X-Wing to the VOR and > started the turn outbound to the outer marker. Now my son is just > really enjoying this. At the outer marker, the blue light started to > flash and you could hear the BEEP in the headset. My Son jumps in and > said "That Tie Fighter has locked on to us" I said "That's Right" and > I started my evasive maneuver on the procedure turn. > > My Son is listening to the exchange between me and the controller and > wants to chime in on the conversion. I said to my son, "Just hang on; > I will give you a chance". I never should have said that because now > he is all excited to talk on the radio. As I start to turn inbound on > the turn, the Approach control said "Contact tower when established on > the localizer". So I told my young Padawan Learner "OK, when this > needle gets here on the dial, push the radio button and tell the tower > that 93 Romeo is inbound on the localizer". > > Now imagine this, I am giving basic instrument instruction to a 9 year > old, I cannot get adults to say this during training. So before I can > give him something simpler to say he keys the mike and says > > "REBEL BASE, THIS IS RED 5. WE ARE STARTING OUR ATTACK RUN ON THE > DEATH STAR". > > Good God. > > Now this post 9/11 and before I can key my mike and say anything, the > tower jumps on and says "RED 5, YOUR CLEARED FOR THE APPROACH TO THE > DEATH STAR. REPORTS HITS AWAY" > > Now I am waiting for the tower to add "And tell your dad to call this > number" But I hear nothing else. So we continue the approach. Now my > son is in heaven. This is real life stuff to him and he is doing > everything I tell him to do as far as tracking the needle. As we > approach the outer marker inbound, the light starts to flash and there > is that tone again. "Dad, the Death Star has a lock on us". Yes Son, > you keep on the approach, I will worry about the guns. > > Everything is going great and now we are approaching the middle > marker. My son has noticed the GPS has a red line with an airplane on > it and it ends at the Death Star. So he asks me "IS THAT A TARGETING > COMPUTER DAD?" Well of course it is, and it shows us where we are to > the target. So now he hears Obewan tell him to USE THE FORCE SCOTT and > he turns the GPS OFF. Tells me he is OK and does not need the > targeting computer because he is using the FORCE. > > Now the middle marker light flashes and the tone comes on. I apply > full power and the airplane,,,X-Wing,,, Starts a climb. I start the > turn to the missed approach path when my son keys the mike and says > "HITS AWAY". The tower answers back with "GOOD JOB RED 5, CONTACT > REBEL APPROACH ON 126.1" > > We go back to Mojave SPACEPORT, and I decide that the X-Wing needs a > bath. So out comes all the cleaning stuff and we spend the rest of the > day washing and waxing the turbo jets and laser pods. > > So you see. This is why I own my own aircraft. You cannot beat this > kind of quality time with your kids. And there is no way you can put a > price on that. > > > Jeff Bryant > Southwest Regional Director > Beech Aero Club > 1975 X-Wing Fighter Model B-19 > N6993R > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:19 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: space cadets --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Hi Robert, What a great post. Have I your permission to forward it to a flying magazine?. With Christmas issues coming out soon I am sure they could use a good story like that. Incidentally is that the sort of post that should be archived or not. I would vote `Yes` MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. Pat -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:08 AM PST US From: "John Bickham" Subject: Kolb-List: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" Hello list, Finally getting all my priorities right. Shop is cleared of all projects that have taken up space to this point. Been working hard on my welding. Really just getting started on the repairs to my Mark III Classic. For those that don't know or remember, I kinda "screwed the pooch" on the way to MV in 2004. No excuse. Bad decision making with changing weather. More lucky than good. Anyway, I'm getting cranked up. If you are interested I plan to share this effort on a web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-8JB Will update the page as things progress, so check in from time to time. Maybe some of you will have some suggestions. Maybe you can learn from some of the dumb things I have or might do. This is one of those generic free web pages. Simple and easy to use, just not a lot of bells and whistles. Want to spend more time on the plane than on the computer. As usual, any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Many of you have been great help over and over for quite a while now. Do Not Archive Thanks, John Bickham ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:12 AM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Do N*t Archive Flag... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" I wondered that to Geo... If people can't remember to insert a Do Not Archive in their message, I wonder what they are they missing on their preflight... HMMMM Mike, MarkIII Classic 582 Northern Oklahoma... Do Not Archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do N*t Archive Flag... --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com Come on guys, if you can build and fly an airplane, you can type three words to indicate that your message shouldn't be appended to the archive....by Matt Draille Geeez, how come we never looked at it that way? Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991 Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:11 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" That's really a shame, but, as you say, it could've been a lot worse. Hope to see you at MV this time. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bickham" Subject: Kolb-List: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" > > Hello list, > > > Finally getting all my priorities right. Shop is cleared of all projects > that have taken up space to this point. Been working hard on my welding. > Really just getting started on the repairs to my Mark III Classic. For ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:03 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" It's Speedy Lar when he can sprawl on his lazy butt and let his speedy fingers do the walking. :-) I went to the dentist for a root canal last Thurs and he didn't get all the root, or infection, or something. I'm stumbling around here with a swollen jaw, full of emergency prescriptions of codeine and penicillin thinking tomorrow will never come. No work on anything on this beautiful 75 deg day. Can't go for a drive. Not even watching TV. Misery. Mournful Lar. Snivel snivel Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rest of The Story > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Speedy Lar? Speedy Lar? Did I read that right? > ok, who's going to step up to the plate on that one? ;) > > do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:07 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Repairs underway - Highlights and LOWLIGHTS to be on Web page --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | John Bickham John B/Gang: Not bad at all, considering....................... Looks like some of the tubing may be straightened, rather than replaced. Will be coming through your way 1 Dec, and returning about 5 or 6 Dec. Will give you are holler to see if you are home. I like your web site. john h MKIII Titus, Alabama DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:25 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Larry T / Kolbers This weekend was great for flying Kolbs in southeast Virginia. Larry, I wanted to let you know what I got for a takeoff climb rate this morning. OAT was 54 degrees F, the plane with 20 gallons of fuel and me weighted 869 pounds at take off. The 582 was turning 6400 rpm and the ASI indicated 59/60 mph with the VSI initially showing 1000 fpm then 1100 fpm. After gaining a couple of hundred feet of altitude the VSI indicated 900 - 1000 fpm. Near the end of my climb at 1000 feet the VSI was indicating 700 - 800 fpm. I did a high speed run and could only get 87/88 mph IAS with the 9.5 degree pitch in the taper tip warp drive 3 bladed propeller. Jim Ballenger MK III X 582 Virginia Beach, VA ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" 9.5 degree pitch in the taper tip warp drive 3 bladed propeller. | | Jim Ballenger | MK III X 582 | Virginia Beach, VA Jim B/Gang: Got a couple questions for you. What is the diameter of your Warp Drive? What was engine rpm at WOT, straight and level flight, 88 mph? What was gross weight of your Xtra during this test? Thanks, john h MKIII Titus, AL ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:55 PM PST US From: Cat36Fly@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 PERFORMANCE --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com Jim/ Kolbers I performed the same drill this morning. My craft with me a 10 gal of fuel weighed 776 lbs. I pulled the nose up and held 58 - 60 mph and was showing 1000 fpm, then 1100 and down to 800-900 at 1000 ft. This was also with the taper tip and 6200 rpm. Later in the day (it was warmer) when taking off from another airport I could only get 5800 rpm. Got to do some checking there. Installed a trim tab on the elevator. Flew and adjusted same. Can now fly with two fingers for the most part. Have not done any high speed trials yet and usually cruise at 4500 to 5200 rpm which will give me 56 - 72 mph. Next the sand bags! Larry Tasker MKlllx 582 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:34 PM PST US From: Cat36Fly@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com The face of the pod (panel) measures 7" H x 11 1/4" wide. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:16 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Kolb-List: DNA --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne Matt, list As I see it, the whole idea of shortening "do not archive " from 14 keystrokes to one or two is to make things easier for everyone who uses the list. What's wrong with that? Whyyyyy not? Is anyone really opposed to this? Russ Kinne do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:07 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: DNA --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | Is anyone really opposed to this? | Russ Kinne Russ K/Gang: Take a break. DO NOT ARCHIVE is a dead issue. Maybe it would be a good idea to spend more time building or flying a Kolb. john h MKIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra From: Todd Fredricks --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks Cool. I appreciate the reply. Todd On 11/20/05 9:17 PM, "Cat36Fly@aol.com" wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com > > The face of the pod (panel) measures 7" H x 11 1/4" wide. > > > > > > -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com POWERED BY MAC ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:09 PM PST US From: bryan green Subject: Re: Kolb-List: DNA --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green I think yall are missing the point. This list is for things about flying and building Kolb aircraft. If you only post things related to that you would not have to type do not archive that often. If you want to hold a dialog about days gone by or a chat with someone on the list e-mail that individual directly. No hard feelings intended JMHO because ya ask. Bryan Green Elgin SC russ kinne wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne > >Matt, list >As I see it, the whole idea of shortening "do not archive " from 14 >keystrokes to one or two is to make things easier for everyone who uses >the list. >What's wrong with that? Whyyyyy not? >Is anyone really opposed to this? >Russ Kinne >do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:15 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Tail Cable Ends --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" FireFlyers & Kolbers, I have been watching the cable thimbles that pass through the tangs attached to the horizontal and vertical stabilizers. When I assembled the FireFly, I de burred the tang holes to remove the sharp corners and to provide a better load bearing surface to the thimble. At 194 hours one thimble above the horizontal stabilizer was showing enough wear that repair was required to prevent cable damage. I believe I need to increase tension in the cables to keep them from strumming. To repair the thimbles, I wrapped them with 0.016 inch thick brass to present a new wear surface to the tang. JB Weld was used to keep the wrap from sliding out of place on the thimble. If you would like to see how it was done, it can be seen at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly120.html Hope to be back in the air tomorrow. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN