Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 12/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:15 AM - Trailering (Bob and Jenn B)
     2. 05:35 AM - Re: Trailering (David Lehman)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: Mark III on EBAY (Michael Bigelow)
     4. 04:24 PM - Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds (David Lehman)
     5. 04:37 PM - Re:FSII / Control Stick-New & OLD (Mike Pierzina)
     6. 06:17 PM - Re: Re:FSII / Control Stick-New & OLD (lucien stavenhagen)
     7. 06:29 PM - Gap seals  (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
     8. 07:02 PM - Re: 503 de-carbon (possums)
     9. 07:26 PM - Re: 503 de-carbon (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    10. 08:28 PM - Re: 503 de-carbon (Ralph)
    11. 11:51 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:15:01 AM PST US
    From: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Trailering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com> Another suggestion would be to rent a U-haul and fit it all inside or call Andy Haaden, his number is on Barnstormers / Services, who runs an aircraft delivery service. He brought mine home last year at $1.25 loaded mile (that was before the gas increases). Takes care of everything and is cheaper than breaking the plane on the way. Bob


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    Time: 05:35:52 AM PST US
    From: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> Thanx Bob... Those are two more thoughts I also had... I'm combining a family Christmas trip with the airplane pickup... I just bought a new Diesel Ford 4X4 pickup and I'm guessing my chances of good road traction are better with the pickup than an Uhaul truck during the Winter... I'm getting some real good information here and I'm leaning towards removing the wings and wrapping it up like a Christmas present... David On 12/1/05, Bob and Jenn B <tabberdd@hotmail.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com> > > Another suggestion would be to rent a U-haul and fit it all inside or call > Andy Haaden, his number is on Barnstormers / Services, who runs an > aircraft > delivery service. He brought mine home last year at $1.25 loaded mile > (that > was before the gas increases). Takes care of everything and is cheaper > than > breaking the plane on the way. > > Bob >


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    Time: 07:12:53 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Bigelow" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mark III on EBAY
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Bigelow" <orcabonita@hotmail.com> If that Mark III is in even fair condition, 11,500 seems like a great price :) If you know of one for 12,500 that also seems like quite a deal, those are very nice planes.... Do Not Archive


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    Time: 04:24:57 PM PST US
    From: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> Thanx Ray, how you doing?... David On 11/30/05, ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> > > My Kolb Ultra Star was transported about 800 miles about one year ago on a > flat bed trailer. The wings were removed and stacked underneath the fuselage > with a light wood frame between them to keep them apart. Every thing was > wrapped in a commercial grade plastic similar to Saran Wrap. Careful planing > and wrapping will insure there is no gap that will permit wind to get in > between any sections of the structure. The wrap is available at most > hardware stores and Lowes and comes in a large roll about two feet in > width. Is quite cheap. Movers blankets were wrapped across corners and > pointy areas before the plastic wrap. The rear of the fuselage should be > supported in some manner so the aircraft doesn't rest on the tail wheel. > Lash every thing down securely and there should be no problem. I would > strongly suggest that you don't haul it with wings folded. You can encounter > some pretty strong unexpected side loadings in a long haul like that. Could > even tilt the trailer. >


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    Time: 04:37:36 PM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE:FSII / Control Stick-New & OLD
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> It's in the Matronics Photoshare http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@lycos.com.02.15.2004/ You were looking for a view on a aileron gap seal....I think that's at "Kip's" site......? ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:17:58 PM PST US
    From: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RE:FSII / Control Stick-New & OLD
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> >It's in the Matronics Photoshare > > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@lycos.com.02.15.2004/ > > > You were looking for a view on a aileron gap seal....I think that's at >"Kip's" site......? Ok, thanks for the link.... Wow, I like that new stick design. Mines an older one where the joint is a kind of a knuckle canted a bit off to the left side of the rudder cables. This is the way to go here..... I did see the gap seal as well, I think I might try a temporary one just made out of tape to see how much more effective it makes the ailerons.... I have a feeling it'll make a big difference (always did on my model airplanes for sure ;))... LS N646F FS II Do Not Archive


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    Time: 06:29:16 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Gap seals
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com LS The best way I have found to install a gap seal is using 4 inch finishing tape and it goes from the top of the trailing edge of the wing to the bottom leading edge of the aileron and just skip where the hindges are and you wont hardly even see a gap seal Ellery do not archive


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    Time: 07:02:16 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 503 de-carbon
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com> At 07:33 PM 11/28/2005, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com> > >John, I am at 260 hours with no de-carbon jobs yet. At 150 hours I took it >to a mechanic for service and he said there was no need to tear into it. At >300, I plan to overhaul it and I'm curious to see how it looks inside. Me too - got 669 hours now without a decarb - really. 1999 Engine 503 E-gear box No carbon yet. Compression still 120 per cylinder - like new "outa of the box" Still checking with the dental mirrors and intake and exhaust manifolds off (flashlight down the plug holes) every 50 or so hours. Gotta repaint my muffler once in a while anyway - wish I'd got it chromed when it was new.. Just a test guys - so don't flame me. Don't try this at home - we do this for a living (myth busters - ha ha - I guess I'm Buster). I'm at the Ferguson Farm & I'm the test pilot for "this one" anyway. Never had the jugs off never had the engine even hick up. And I know that's not what the book says. But somebody has to do it. ( Where no man has gone before - 1,000 hr on a 503 CDI no decarb no rebuild Wallmart dot 3 oil "BTW - don't use their aircooled oil") We who are about to die - salute you. (Again -not trying to be disrespectful - we've had our share of fatalities over here - as I'm sure some of you know - but we still fly) http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/


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    Time: 07:26:52 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 503 de-carbon
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com That makes me feel better about my engine 447 with 314 hrs and still going, no DE-carbon or glitches but finding myself inspecting more often though and looking at every 4 stroke I can think of to get a longer lived quieter engine that I can use on the little firestar Ellery do not archive


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    Time: 08:28:07 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: 503 de-carbon
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com> Guys, I'm at 450 hours without a teardown or decarbon (2nd engine). I'm running synthetic oil 50:1. Ralph Original Firestar 19 years flying it, Rotax 447 -- possums <possums@mindspring.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com> At 07:33 PM 11/28/2005, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com> > >John, I am at 260 hours with no de-carbon jobs yet. At 150 hours I took it >to a mechanic for service and he said there was no need to tear into it. At >300, I plan to overhaul it and I'm curious to see how it looks inside. Me too - got 669 hours now without a decarb - really. 1999 Engine 503 E-gear box No carbon yet. Compression still 120 per cylinder - like new "outa of the box" Still checking with the dental mirrors and intake and exhaust manifolds off (flashlight down the plug holes) every 50 or so hours. Gotta repaint my muffler once in a while anyway - wish I'd got it chromed when it was new.. Just a test guys - so don't flame me. Don't try this at home - we do this for a living (myth busters - ha ha - I guess I'm Buster). I'm at the Ferguson Farm & I'm the test pilot for "this one" anyway. Never had the jugs off never had the engine even hick up. And I know that's not what the book says. But somebody has to do it. ( Where no man has gone before - 1,000 hr on a 503 CDI no decarb no rebuild Wallmart dot 3 oil "BTW - don't use their aircooled oil") We who are about to die - salute you. (Again -not trying to be disrespectful - we've had our share of fatalities over here - as I'm sure some of you know - but we still fly) http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!


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    Time: 11:51:37 PM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Kolb-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Kolb-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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