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1. 12:36 AM - Re: 503 de-carbon (possums)
2. 02:38 AM - Re: Trailering (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 03:48 AM - Re: 503 de-carbon (lucien stavenhagen)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: 503 de-carbon (John Jung)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds (Denny Rowe)
6. 08:25 AM - Re: Written test (Jon LaVasseur)
7. 08:25 AM - Re: Written test (Jon LaVasseur)
8. 08:25 AM - Re: Written test (Jon LaVasseur)
9. 08:32 AM - Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds (David Lehman)
10. 11:04 AM - Firefly forced to Land (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
11. 11:15 AM - Nauga Field christening by John Hauck (John Bickham)
12. 12:28 PM - Wire wheel? (Jeremy Casey)
13. 02:11 PM - Re: Wire wheel? (bryan green)
14. 04:11 PM - Re: Firefly forced to Land (Jack B. Hart)
15. 04:29 PM - 912 Carb setting (bill_joe)
16. 04:47 PM - Ms. Dixie update (Paul Petty)
17. 05:02 PM - Re: 912 Carb setting (Paul Petty)
18. 05:17 PM - Re: Wire wheel? (Jim Baker)
19. 06:54 PM - Re: Firefly forced to Land (ray anderson)
20. 07:19 PM - posting on matronics. (Rick Pearce)
21. 07:24 PM - Re: Ms. Dixie update (Mitty)
22. 07:36 PM - Re: posting on matronics. (Robert Laird)
23. 10:10 PM - Re: posting on matronics. (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: 503 de-carbon |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 11:26 PM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
>
>Guys,
>
>I'm at 450 hours without a teardown or decarbon (2nd engine). I'm
>running synthetic oil 50:1.
>
>Ralph
>Original Firestar
>19 years flying it, Rotax 447
Don't go with me - I'M NOT AN ENGINE PERSON
I'm just the test dummy.
Now "Tom" knows all about your 447.
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From: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation(at)buyitsellitfixit.com>
Subject:
<http://www.matronics.com/searching//searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=35477735?KEYS=possums?LISTNAME=Kolb?HITNUMBER=259?SERIAL=23491830991X?SHOWBUTTONS=NO>Need
guidance Rotax 447
I'd like to show a picture of a piston that was making 110 pounds of
compression
on a 447. The top ring is gone
along with most of the piston on the exhaust side above the lower ring. The
other piston which was undamaged was at 115 but both pistons were over .008"
clearances and all the rings were over .030" end gap. This engine never
quit and was running right up to the time when he traded it in on a new 447.
Someone had picked up a couple of 447 pistons from a snowmobile shop which
followed the cross references to a piston that is actually smaller than the
current standard sized. Since no one probably actually measure the
clearance, they started out beyond the maximum clearance most likely. At
one point Rotax changed the standard sized piston on the 447 to one that is
a little larger. This engine came with that larger standard size, but
someone installed the smaller standard sized piston. Still ran and still
had compression.
A compression test on a Rotax engine has very little value. It will tell
you if there is a hole in the piston or if there is a differential, it might
tell you something, but there is NO specification to go by what it
acceptable and what is not. However, you can physically check for stuck
rings through the exhaust port.
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation
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I agree with Tom on most of the points he mentions. However, the 503
is a different animal.
It is a rock, it is a stone, it is the pinnacle of the two stroke
dual carb 52 HP engines at 85+ pounds.
However, I don't agree that a compression test "has very little
value" after 8 test over 600 hours'
with very little difference. A broken ring "our ultimate nightmare" -
would show up. I think a "Stuck ring"
would show up even if you neglected to check that with your fingers or a prob.
I've flown a 447 with points - on a KXP for at least 400 hours before
this one - they are finicky little engines,
they want everything to be just right. But...when everything is
right, they are hard to beat - you know what I mean.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:36:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
david@davidlehman.net writes:
Thanx Bob...
Those are two more thoughts I also had... I'm combining a family Christmas
trip with the airplane pickup... I just bought a new Diesel Ford 4X4 pickup
and I'm guessing my chances of good road traction are better with the pickup
than an Uhaul truck during the Winter... I'm getting some real good
information here and I'm leaning towards removing the wings and wrapping it
up like a Christmas present...
David
I didn't do it but I think that would be a great Idea!!
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl
Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991
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| Subject: | Re: 503 de-carbon |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
About decarbs.....
In my experience, they're rarely a problem as the motor will generally need
to come apart for other maintenance reasons before excessive carbon becomes
a problem.....
The only maintenance weakness of the Rotaxen in my experience is the crank
seals. They generally start to leak at about 100 hours. 2 of my recent 503's
were leaking runny black fluid out of the front main at about 120 hours,
that's from new.....
Many motors are still run for pretty long periods of time with the leaky
seals anyway, do some shopping for used planes in your local area and you'll
see a bunch of them. Even a lot of flying motors... Motors with black
residue all over the bottom of the fan housing are pretty common. The rest
of the soaking on them is generally from leakage from the exhaust manifold
gaskets due to loose bolts....
On the B box, the rear seal leaks into the box so that's not visible until
the oil is drained. With the C box, though, the fluid will wind up on the
outside of the box, making diagnosis of a leaky seal easier....
The black fluid anywhere on the motor is actually not normal, if it's coming
off the side of the motor that generally means leaking exhaust gaskets
(fixable usually by torquing the bolts). But if you see it on the bottom of
the fan housing and/or coating the outside of your C box, a teardown/reseal
needs to be done fairly soon.......
New motors dribble a thick black grease out of the seals for the first 10 to
20 hours, this is normal. The fluid leakage isn't tho....
Something to look for, particularly during post-flight inspection. After
every flight, I closely inspect the underside of the fan housing at the seam
where it contacts the crankcase. This is where the fluid comes out in a
dribble, forming a droplet in needs-a-teardown cases.....
Hope that helps,
LS
N646F
FS II
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>That makes me feel better about my engine 447 with 314 hrs and still going,
>no DE-carbon or glitches but finding myself inspecting more often though
>and
>looking at every 4 stroke I can think of to get a longer lived quieter
>engine
>that I can use on the little firestar
>
>Ellery
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 503 de-carbon |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
possums and Group,
It is possible that there is no real difference between my engine and
those that are running high hours without de-carbon. I may just be too
fussy about my oil rings being totally free. I don't check compression
and I have not been able to detect a stuck ring through the exhaust
port. Also, I have read that the oil rings are not all that important.
Maybe, in the future, I will check compression and the exhaust port
visual check, and keep flying.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
> Me too - got 669 hours now without a decarb - really. 1999 Engine 503
> E-gear box
> No carbon yet. Compression still 120 per cylinder - like new "outa
> of the box" Still checking with the dental mirrors and intake and
> exhaust manifolds off (flashlight down the plug holes) every 50 or so
> hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
>
> Thanx Denny, I've been considering the "wing removed" option too... I
> noticed the tail lock in some of the pictures on the net... How long do
> the
> pieces of pipe need to be?... Unfortunately, I don't have a Kolb locally
> to
> look at, so I'm going to have to prepare everything before I go to pick it
> up...
>
> Thanx again...
>
> David
>
> David
My pipes are about 27 inches long 1/2" CPVC with pipe insulation over em,
the Tees and Elbows (4 of each) only have about 1/8" inch between each (so
you need to cut six short stubs of pipe) and the whole gizmo slides down
over the folded tail till it hits the tail cable tangs. As wind will work on
it on an open trailer, you want to secure it from sliding up and off with
bungee cords or better yet, wrap the entire tail with your plastic wrap.
also you want to wrap the lexan windscreen also.
Make sure to use primer and the correct cement so there will be no chance of
the tail lock comming apart.
I like this design a little better than the one in the plans that uses nylon
sash cord instead of the Tees and Elbows. Of coarse either work fine.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Written test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jon LaVasseur <firestar503@yahoo.com>
Hi Ralph,
I just talked with Hummingbird Aviation and we
will need two forms of ID (drivers license and
creidt), your EAA certificate and payment which
can be credit/debit, cash or check. They are
located near the corner of 212 and Pioneer Trail.
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Written test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jon LaVasseur <firestar503@yahoo.com>
Hi Ralph,
I just talked with Hummingbird Aviation and we
will need two forms of ID (drivers license and
creidt), your EAA certificate and payment which
can be credit/debit, cash or check. They are
located near the corner of 212 and Pioneer Trail.
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Written test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jon LaVasseur <firestar503@yahoo.com>
Hi Ralph,
I just talked with Hummingbird Aviation and we
will need two forms of ID (drivers license and
creidt), your EAA certificate and payment which
can be credit/debit, cash or check. They are
located near the corner of 212 and Pioneer Trail.
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Hauling Kolbs on flat beds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
Thanx Denny, any chance of a picture(s)?... I can't get over the excellent
advice I've received on this list... I have received several messages off
list as well as the on list messages... I'm really excited about picking up
my first Kolb in a couple of weeks, but scared to death that I'll damage it
hauling it home... And then there's the sanity issue regarding bringing it
home on the snow/ice roads... My wife keeps reminding me...
Thanx again...
David
On 12/2/05, Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
> >
> > Thanx Denny, I've been considering the "wing removed" option too... I
> > noticed the tail lock in some of the pictures on the net... How long do
> > the
> > pieces of pipe need to be?... Unfortunately, I don't have a Kolb
> locally
> > to
> > look at, so I'm going to have to prepare everything before I go to pick
> it
> > up...
> >
> > Thanx again...
> >
> > David
> >
> > David
> My pipes are about 27 inches long 1/2" CPVC with pipe insulation over em,
> the Tees and Elbows (4 of each) only have about 1/8" inch between each (so
> you need to cut six short stubs of pipe) and the whole gizmo slides down
> over the folded tail till it hits the tail cable tangs. As wind will work
> on
> it on an open trailer, you want to secure it from sliding up and off with
> bungee cords or better yet, wrap the entire tail with your plastic wrap.
> also you want to wrap the lexan windscreen also.
> Make sure to use primer and the correct cement so there will be no chance
> of
> the tail lock comming apart.
> I like this design a little better than the one in the plans that uses
> nylon
> sash cord instead of the Tees and Elbows. Of coarse either work fine.
>
> Denny Rowe
>
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| Subject: | Firefly forced to Land |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolbers -
Saw this news item today:
"Fighter jets forced a private airplane to make an unscheduled landing at an
airport after the plane violated restricted airspace around Camp David, the
Secret Service said. F-16s intercepted the single-engine Firefly about 9:30
a.m. Sunday (27 Nov) and forced the landing at Frederick Municipal Airport
..."
Just wondering if this is someone we know?
Dennis Kirby
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| Subject: | Nauga Field christening by John Hauck |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Hello List,
I had the pleasure of a visit by John Hauck and Miss P'fer. It was the
official first landing and TO at Nauga Field. Can't think of anyone better
to do the first one. It was great visiting with John H again. He stopped
over on his way to Beaumont, TX to join up with Gary Haley and John
Williamson for the Texas Seashore run. I'm leaving out a fella, but forgot
his name already. Sorry.
Sure wish I could join them. Hope to soon.
Put a couple of pictures on web page. Go to Nauga Field.
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/pwp-8jb
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Thanks,
John Bickham
St. Francisville, LA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Is a BRASS wire wheel acceptable for removing old flaky primer and
surface rust from 4130 aircraft tubing?
Enquiring minds want to know...
Jeremy Casey
Kilocharlie Drafting, Inc.
www.kilocharlie.us
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
IMHO you can use anything you need to as long as you don't thin the
tube. 4130 is not near as finicky as aluminum.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
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Jeremy Casey wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
>Is a BRASS wire wheel acceptable for removing old flaky primer and
>surface rust from 4130 aircraft tubing?
>
>Enquiring minds want to know...
>
>Jeremy Casey
>Kilocharlie Drafting, Inc.
>www.kilocharlie.us
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly forced to Land |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 06:55 PM 12/2/05 -0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
Dennis,
Here is the rest of the story,
Plane violates Camp David airspace
FREDERICK, Md. (AP) Fighter jets forced a private airplane to make an
unscheduled landing at an airport after the plane violated restricted
airspace around Camp David, the Secret Service said.
F-16s intercepted the single-engine Firefly about 9:30 a.m. Sunday and
forced the landing at Frederick Municipal Airport, authorities said.
Maryland State Police held the pilot until Secret Service agents arrived.
We interviewed the pilot and he was unaware that he had wandered into
restricted airspace, Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said. The pilot
wasnt charged.
Zahren refused to release the pilots name because he wasnt charged. The
plane, which was painted to resemble a vintage Army aircraft, is registered
to Gregory Curtis of Raleigh, N.C., The Frederick News-Post reported
Monday.
Most of the time, the restricted airspace around Camp David is 12,500 feet
high with a radius of three nautical miles, or about 31/2 miles. But when
the president is at Camp David, as he was Sunday, the space expands to an
altitude of 18,000 feet with a radius of five nautical miles, or nearly six
miles.
Since Sept. 11, 2001, the zone has been violated 167 times, often by pilots
who didnt know whether the airspace had a three- or five-nautical-mile
radius, the News-Post reported.
To avoid such problems, pilots should check the Federal Aviation
Administrations publicly posted Notices to Airmen, said Chris Dancy,
spokesman for the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, which represents
private pilots.
At least two other planes have been forced to land at Frederick this year
for violating either the Camp David airspace or the protected airspace over
Washington. An incident in May drew national attention when the U.S. Capitol
was briefly evacuated.
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Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | 912 Carb setting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bill_joe" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
Kolbers...
I need to know what is the best way to adjust the low end setting on a 912.
From 2200 rpm all way to 5200 it runs great and smooth. At 1500 to 2000 it seems
like it is running real rich and is trying to load up. It will just about
die at 1500 and shakes real bad and even at 2000 it is not a lot better. I have
never moved the low end idle needle adj screws since I have had it and I bought
it new.
Thanks
Billie Futrell
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| Subject: | Ms. Dixie update |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Well it's been 27 months into the construction of Ms. Dixie and I am happy to report
that today I reached a major milestone. I had the pleasure of dealing with
the fine folks at Grand Rapids. Takes forever to get Sandy on the phone but
now I know why. What a pleasant and knowledgeable person to deal with. Between
her and Dick at Kuntzlman I am all set to receive the hot box (custom made)
and EIS for the Kolbra. Note to any 912 user purchasing a hot box from anywhere...
do not pay the $215.00 price because you will receive a $25.00 voltage regulator
you cant use. Tell who ever you order it from you have a 912 and if you
are going to use a EIS tell them that as well. they custom make the battery
cables and leads to the engine. I recommend going straight to the companies them
selves. Great people.
The reason this is a milestone for me is because this is the last leg of building
before disassembly for covering and painting. I want to have a complete running
airplane full of fuel,coolant and oil and instruments before I even think
of covering. This way if anything needs to be changed or modified or heaven forbid
"Leaks" I wont have a problem cleaning up. Thanks to the many that have
helped Travis, Mark German, John Hauck just to name a few and with any luck
Ms Dixie just may fly this spring or early summer.
On another note John Hauck dropped in here yesterday and when I say dropped I
mean Dropped. He uses less runway than anyone that lands here...except for maybe
Jim Williamson. Like to get those two guys here for a short field competition
someday.
Well time to head to the shop and clock in take care guys and fly safe!
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
ps. 2 new items I found this week for our airplanes. 1. Areoquip fuel line FC332
and 2. Powergrip hose clamps.. e-mail me if you want details and prices. I stock
both.:-)
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Carb setting |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Billie,
Have you synchronized the 2 carbs?
Just a thought. One more Rotax 912 school and I will be able to officially
answer your question.
pp
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bill_joe" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: 912 Carb setting
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bill_joe" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
>
> Kolbers...
>
> I need to know what is the best way to adjust the low end setting on a
912. From 2200 rpm all way to 5200 it runs great and smooth. At 1500 to
2000 it seems like it is running real rich and is trying to load up. It will
just about die at 1500 and shakes real bad and even at 2000 it is not a lot
better. I have never moved the low end idle needle adj screws since I have
had it and I bought it new.
>
> Thanks
> Billie Futrell
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
> >Is a BRASS wire wheel acceptable for removing old flaky primer
and
> >surface rust from 4130 aircraft tubing?
> >
> >Enquiring minds want to know...
Got something better for ya...do a search for 3M surface conditioning
discs.....come in several different grades and there are other 3M
Roloc items that are very nice to work with when cleaning/prepping
surfaces.....
http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-
bin/nsearch?query=roloc&first=20&only=0&categ=all&catalog=levine
auto
or if you don't want to cut/paste...
http://tinyurl.com/9jl5v
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly forced to Land |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to me that any pilot in a private plane
not up to date and current as to the situation at Camp David on any given day,
would have the common sense to assume the the safe thing to do is use always
the six mile figure. For heavens sake, why set your self up for a big hassle
and embarrassment for a measly three miles horizontally. Anyone that haphazard
and careless maybe shouldn't be flying. It's not that I'm so worried about the
president, but that kind of stupidity could run all over me somewhere. O.K
so I'm in a bad mood, but those kind of things tee me off because it makes things
harder for all of us in the long run.
"Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart"
At 06:55 PM 12/2/05 -0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
>
< Most of the time, the restricted airspace around Camp David is 12,500
feet
high with a radius of three nautical miles, or about 31/2 miles. But
when
the president is at Camp David, as he was Sunday, the space expands to
an
altitude of 18,000 feet with a radius of five nautical miles, or nearly
six
miles. >
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
Can I use the photoshare to post the wiring diaram that I was trying to
attach the other day?It will be in auto cad.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Good deal there,Paul.Glad to hear you're almost done
with the project!I'll be stopping by sometimes befor
ei go back to work to check out the progress :))
CYA
Mitty
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--- Paul Petty <Lynnp@c-gate.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty"
> <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Well it's been 27 months into the construction of
> Ms. Dixie and I am happy to report that today I
> reached a major milestone. I had the pleasure of
> dealing with the fine folks at Grand Rapids. Takes
> forever to get Sandy on the phone but now I know
> why. What a pleasant and knowledgeable person to
> deal with. Between her and Dick at Kuntzlman I am
> all set to receive the hot box (custom made) and EIS
> for the Kolbra. Note to any 912 user purchasing a
> hot box from anywhere... do not pay the $215.00
> price because you will receive a $25.00 voltage
> regulator you cant use. Tell who ever you order it
> from you have a 912 and if you are going to use a
> EIS tell them that as well. they custom make the
> battery cables and leads to the engine. I recommend
> going straight to the companies them selves. Great
> people.
> The reason this is a milestone for me is because
> this is the last leg of building before disassembly
> for covering and painting. I want to have a complete
> running airplane full of fuel,coolant and oil and
> instruments before I even think of covering. This
> way if anything needs to be changed or modified or
> heaven forbid "Leaks" I wont have a problem cleaning
> up. Thanks to the many that have helped Travis,
> Mark German, John Hauck just to name a few and with
> any luck Ms Dixie just may fly this spring or early
> summer.
> On another note John Hauck dropped in here
> yesterday and when I say dropped I mean Dropped. He
> uses less runway than anyone that lands
> here...except for maybe Jim Williamson. Like to get
> those two guys here for a short field competition
> someday.
> Well time to head to the shop and clock in take care
> guys and fly safe!
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
> ps. 2 new items I found this week for our airplanes.
> 1. Areoquip fuel line FC332 and 2. Powergrip hose
> clamps.. e-mail me if you want details and prices. I
> stock both.:-)
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
On 12/2/05, Rick Pearce <rap@isp.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
>
> Can I use the photoshare to post the wiring diaram that I was trying to
attach the other day?It will be in auto cad.
Yes, you can, but.... it'd probably be a lot more useful as a PDF
file... more people could view it that way. If you don't have the
ability to do that, send it to me and I'll do it for you.
-- Robert
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Yep
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
>
> Can I use the photoshare to post the wiring diaram that I was trying
> to attach the other day?It will be in auto cad.
>
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