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Mon 12/19/05


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 08:20 AM - Re: Mark III vs Kolbra (lucien stavenhagen)
     2. 10:53 AM - Glenn Rinck (John Hauck)
     3. 03:10 PM - float flying (russ kinne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:20:49 AM PST US
    From: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mark III vs Kolbra
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> John, all, Speaking of this - I"m following this thread since the Kolbra is at the moment at the top of the list of planes that will be my next plane... A question about the Kolbra - can it be built without any flaps or flaperons at all? I.e. only the aileron setup like the Firestar? I'm just curious here, as I really like the simplicity of the ailerons-only setup with my Firestar. Though true flaps are nice to have... Just wondering.... By the way, I made some slightly more permanant gap seals for my FS yesterday out of the clear plastic packing tape - very nice actually and adds no perceptable drag to the operation of the control surafaces. I did add gap seals to the elevator and rudder, but it didn't seem to make a lot of difference. I do think there's slightly more authority in both at the extremes of deflection though... LS N646F do not archive >Morning David K/All: > >Basically, the same aircraft, same wing and tail section. Seems like >the tailboom is longer, but can not say for sure. Major difference is >tandem versus side by side seating. The Kolbra will cruise faster >than the MKIII with the same engine and prop because of the narrower >profile. However, the Kolbra can not be configured like the MKIII to >provide much more cargo space. In addition, the MKIII has a built in >flight desk, the second seat that is not occupied. There have to be a >few changes to the MKIII to gain the additional cargo room, e.g., move >fuel tank to upper area behind the bulkhead that is normally open and >not used. This opens up the lower area where the original fuel tanks >were for cargo. > >As far as handling, the Kolbra seems to me to be a bit more docile >than the MKIII, which is also a docile handling airplane like all the >other Kolb models, new and older. Also some of the adverse yaw and >pitch attitude problems experienced with the MKIII seem to be gone. >These observations are based on only a short period of flight in two >different Kolbras, one 582 and the other 912 powered. > >One additional item is the flaps on the MKIII, which are a definite >plus. The standard Kolbra does come with a standard flap setup. >However, Paul P is building a Kolbra that has full flaps like the >MKIII. We'll have to wait until Paul's airplane flies to see how well >they perform. I am sure they will be a welcome addition to the >already good flying Kolbra. > >I think it is a toss up of whether one wants tandem or side by side >seating. I like both and would certainly own a Kolbra if I didn't >already have a good MKIII. > >Take care, > >john h >MKIII,912ULS >hauck's holler, alabama > >


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    Time: 10:53:00 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Glenn Rinck
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Gang: Other day sent a msg that indicated Glen Rinck lived in Grand Ridge, NJ. Was a "senior moment" mistake. Should have read Grand Ridge, Florida. Thanks, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 03:10:37 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: float flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> List, I apologize -- I made some misleading statements. Let me add that ON NAVIGABLE WATERS the Coast Guard is in charge of seaplanes while they're on the water. Obviously on a land-bound lake there's no CG and the local laws will be in effect. And as Steve B pointed out, the local lawman may not realize that when a seaplane stops, it WILL weathercock into the wind, right now too, no matter what else happens. So he should know that it's inadvisable to command a pilot to stop when it could cause damage, collisions, etc. Hopefully the local officer will learn at least a little about the watercraft he's trying to control. Russ Kinne




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