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                           Kolb-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Mon 12/19/05: 3
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     1. 08:20 AM - Re: Mark III vs Kolbra  (lucien stavenhagen)
     2. 10:53 AM - Glenn Rinck  (John Hauck)
     3. 03:10 PM - float flying  (russ kinne)
 
 
 
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Time: 08:20:49 AM PST US
From: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III vs Kolbra

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>

John, all,

Speaking of this - I"m following this thread since the Kolbra is at the 
moment at the top of the list of planes that will be my next plane...

A question about the Kolbra - can it be built without any flaps or flaperons 
at all? I.e. only the aileron setup like the Firestar? I'm just curious 
here, as I really like the simplicity of the ailerons-only setup with my 
Firestar. Though true flaps are nice to have... Just wondering....

By the way, I made some slightly more permanant gap seals for my FS 
yesterday out of the clear plastic packing tape - very nice actually and 
adds no perceptable drag to the operation of the control surafaces. I did 
add gap seals to the elevator and rudder, but it didn't seem to make a lot 
of difference. I do think there's slightly more authority in both at the 
extremes of deflection though...

LS
N646F

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>Morning David K/All:
>
>Basically, the same aircraft, same wing and tail section.  Seems like
>the tailboom is longer, but can not say for sure.  Major difference is
>tandem versus side by side seating.  The Kolbra will cruise faster
>than the MKIII with the same engine and prop because of the narrower
>profile.  However, the Kolbra can not be configured like the MKIII to
>provide much more  cargo space.  In addition, the MKIII has a built in
>flight desk, the second seat that is not occupied.  There have to be a
>few changes to the MKIII to gain the additional cargo room, e.g., move
>fuel tank to upper area behind the bulkhead that is normally open and
>not used.  This opens up the lower area where the original fuel tanks
>were for cargo.
>
>As far as handling, the Kolbra seems to me to be a bit more docile
>than the MKIII, which is also a docile handling airplane like all the
>other Kolb models, new and older.  Also some of the adverse yaw and
>pitch attitude problems experienced with the MKIII seem to be gone.
>These observations are based on only a short period of flight in two
>different Kolbras, one 582 and the other 912 powered.
>
>One additional item is the flaps on the MKIII, which are a definite
>plus.  The standard Kolbra does come with a standard flap setup.
>However, Paul P is building a Kolbra that has full flaps like the
>MKIII.  We'll have to wait until Paul's airplane flies to see how well
>they perform.  I am sure they will be a welcome addition to the
>already good flying Kolbra.
>
>I think it is a toss up of whether one wants tandem or side by side
>seating.  I like both and would certainly own a Kolbra if I didn't
>already have a good MKIII.
>
>Take care,
>
>john h
>MKIII,912ULS
>hauck's holler, alabama
>
>






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Time: 10:53:00 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Glenn Rinck

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>

Hi Gang:

Other day sent a msg that indicated Glen Rinck lived in Grand Ridge, 
NJ.  Was a "senior moment" mistake.  Should have read Grand Ridge, 
Florida.

Thanks,

john h

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Time: 03:10:37 PM PST US
From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: float flying

--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>

List, I apologize -- I made some misleading statements.
Let me add that ON NAVIGABLE WATERS the Coast Guard is in charge of 
seaplanes while they're on  the water. Obviously on a land-bound lake 
there's no CG and the local laws will be in effect. And as Steve B  
pointed out, the local lawman may not realize that when a seaplane 
stops, it WILL weathercock into the wind, right now too, no matter what 
else happens. So he should know that it's inadvisable to command a 
pilot to stop when it could cause damage, collisions, etc. Hopefully 
the local officer will learn at least a little about the watercraft 
he's trying to control.
Russ Kinne