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1. 04:02 AM - keep the bugs out of tank vents (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 04:22 AM - Re: Trailering A Kolb (pat ladd)
3. 06:04 AM - Re: HKS on a Firestar II (lucien stavenhagen)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: keep the bugs out of tank vents (John Hauck)
5. 06:12 AM - Re: fuel contamination (Kolbdriver)
6. 06:43 AM - slsa (Paul Petty)
7. 06:58 AM - Re: slsa (lucien stavenhagen)
8. 07:12 AM - Re: slsa (jim)
9. 07:18 AM - Re: HKS on a Firestar II (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 07:19 AM - Re: slsa (Robert Laird)
11. 07:23 AM - speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (lucien stavenhagen)
12. 08:11 AM - Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (John Hauck)
13. 08:24 AM - Re: Trailering A Kolb (Richard Swiderski)
14. 08:38 AM - Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (lucien stavenhagen)
15. 08:47 AM - Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (John Hauck)
16. 09:13 AM - Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (ray anderson)
17. 09:15 AM - Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes (lucien stavenhagen)
18. 09:34 AM - Re: Trailering A Kolb (Chris Mallory)
19. 11:57 AM - Re: slsa (Paul Petty)
20. 05:07 PM - Re: HKS on a Firestar II (John Jung)
21. 08:17 PM - Re: Trailering A Kolb (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | keep the bugs out of tank vents |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Hi Gang, my 15 gal. tank on my MK3 is vented to the rear of the gage, where
the boom tube comes out. I have always had a small piece of nylon mesh screen
over the end of it, secured with tie wire. I was always concerned about mud
wasps (daubers), and this seems to have worked well.
Fly Safe
Merry Christmas
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering A Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi,
looking at the great pics of trailers I was struck by what appears to be a
basic difference between the English and the American approach.
Americans think metal. English think wood. Obviously there are metal
trailers about over here but until the commercial production of fibre glass
trailers almost all glider trailers were, and are still, built with woooden
stringers and plywood skin and floor.
Airplanes, even ultralights are rarely trailed. The distances involved are
just not great enough I suppose.
The first metal glider I ever saw was an American one here for the World
Champs. We were building in wooden monocoque construction with maybe a bit
of fibreglass streamlining.
I am not making a criticism, merely an observation.
Pat
do not archive
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| Subject: | HKS on a Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>Denny and Group,
>
>I have looked into the HKS several times, and it is probably the best
>engine if one wants to go traveling in a Firestar II. For me, the
>likely improvements over a 503 are not worth the money. Now, if I
>didn't already own a 503 and had to buy a new one, I might get the HKS,
>instead. I also would like someone else to be the first.
>
>If anyone know of an HKS on a Kolb, let us know.
>
>I have considered the change in Rotax gear box, too.
My FSII has the 3.47:1 C box on it (with the RK-400 clutch as well), the
prop is a 3-blade warp drive taper tip at 68" diameter.
If you need the smoothness of a 3-blade, this is absolutely the way to go.
With the 2.58/2.62 gear ratios, running a 3-blade is slightly problematic -
either the MOI is too high (i.e. the IVO) or you have to run a smaller
diameter (i.e. less than 66") both of which are suboptimal and/or bad for
the motor/gearbox (yeah I know lots of guys run the 3-blade IVO's on B
boxes...).
With a 3.47:1 C box, you can swing a larger prop in 3 blades, but you're
only going approx. 1800 rpm max, allowing you to run coarser pitch as well
as mitigating MOI problems from heavier props like the warp drive.
On my plane, though, I notice that I'm about at the comfortable limit in
terms of clearance of the tips from the tail boom (about 1.5") at 68"
diameter. I'd like to try a 70" at some point and see what gives me as far
as thrust (I'm more interested in low speed thrust than loading at cruise).
I can't make any comparisons with a 2.6 ratio and appropriate prop as far as
economy goes on this plane since I've never tried that combo. It should also
be noted that the C box adds weight over the B box, approx. 7lbs (if you add
the clutch that tacks on another 3lbs for a total of 10). That might reduce
the economy a bit.
I have a feeling also that a little better static/low speed thrust is
obtainable with a 2.6:1/66" 2-blade prop combo than with the 3.47:1/68"
3-blade combo.
But since I much prefer the smoothness of a 3 blade, thats still the combo
that I run (the C box also allows using the clutch, which I don't think I'll
ever not use again ;))....
LS
N646F
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| Subject: | Re: keep the bugs out of tank vents |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
nylon mesh screen
| over the end of it, secured with tie wire. I was always concerned
about mud
| wasps (daubers), | Merry Christmas
| Bob Griffin
Morning Bob G/Gang:
Good idea. Although I have never had a problem with the MKIII, I am
going to take care of protecting the end of my fuel vent line.
Because I have never had a problem with it over the years does not
mean some dumb ass mud dauber will not make a home in the vent line
and ruin my day.
Thanks for the reminder, Bob.
Take care and Merry Xmas, Happy New Year,
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: fuel contamination |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
This is what I use on the end of my vent line. If the link doesn't work it
is item number 09806407 from MSC. mscdirect.com
Steven Green
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=3520349
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required 4.6, BAYES_44 -0.00, HTML_60_70 0.11, HTML_MESSAGE 0.25)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Jim P. Others,
What is SLSA (special light sport aircraft)?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
do not archive
I.L.D.S.!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>Jim P. Others,
>
>What is SLSA (special light sport aircraft)?
Hi Paul,
There's some info on SLSA here:
http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/
It's a bit cryptic, written in a kind of proto-FARese, ;), but it should
give you the general idea.
The main thing to keep in mind about SLSA is they cost up the wazoo ;)....
LS
N646F
>Paul Petty
>Building Ms. Dixie
>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
>
>do not archive
>
>I.L.D.S.!
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Lucien,
There is too much information on LSA, SLSA and ELSA aircraft and the new sport pilot and LSA rules to give to you in a single post. Suggest you do a little research first at the EAA webpages devoted to Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft (www.eaa.org)
If you have specific questions I then recommend you join the Yahoo Sportplane and
Sport_Aircraft fora, where these new FAA rulings are discussed in great detail.
After joining you can access the archives of these fora which have a wealth
of information.
Suffice it to say, the Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft rulings are having
a major impact on General Aviation, resulting in 23 aircraft being certified as
Special Light Sport Aircraft by the FAA in the last 9 months.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
>>Jim P. Others,
>>
>>What is SLSA (special light sport aircraft)?
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>There's some info on SLSA here:
>
>http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/
>
>It's a bit cryptic, written in a kind of proto-FARese, ;), but it should
>give you the general idea.
>
>The main thing to keep in mind about SLSA is they cost up the wazoo ;)....
>
>LS
>N646F
>
>>Paul Petty
>>Building Ms. Dixie
>>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>>www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>I.L.D.S.!
>>
>>
>
>
Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com
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| Subject: | Re: HKS on a Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
John J.,
What does Chuck have on his Firestar? Isn't it a Hirth - 65 hp? You
know him better than I do, maybe you can enlighten us on his satisfaction.
As best I know he is quite happy with it.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: HKS on a Firestar II
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Denny and Group,
>
> I have looked into the HKS several times, and it is probably the best
> engine if one wants to go traveling in a Firestar II. For me, the
> likely improvements over a 503 are not worth the money. Now, if I
> didn't already own a 503 and had to buy a new one, I might get the HKS,
> instead. I also would like someone else to be the first.
>
> If anyone know of an HKS on a Kolb, let us know.
>
> I have considered the change in Rotax gear box, too.
>
> John Jung
> Firstar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
> do not archive
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> John J,
> Keep us posted on what you decide to do, I can't wait to hear about the
> first Firestar with an HKS and big reduction drive, it should be a fuel
> sipping butt hauling machine.
> Also would be cool to get a report on the exact differance between a
> 2.58
> Rotax reduction and the 3.47 C box with the big blades.
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
A factory built aircraft which falls within the Light Sport Aircraft category.
On 12/23/05, lucien stavenhagen <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
> >Jim P. Others,
> >
> >What is SLSA (special light sport aircraft)?
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> There's some info on SLSA here:
>
> http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/
>
> It's a bit cryptic, written in a kind of proto-FARese, ;), but it should
> give you the general idea.
>
> The main thing to keep in mind about SLSA is they cost up the wazoo ;)....
>
> LS
> N646F
>
> >Paul Petty
> >Building Ms. Dixie
> >Kolbra/912UL/Warp
> >www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >I.L.D.S.!
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
I ran across this web page a little while back:
http://members.aol.com/WillU/index.html
Will I don't think I've met yet - is he on the list?
I was very intrigued/inspired by the trip made to OR from el paso in a pair
of firestars....
My limitation so far has been high winds and having to work all the time,
but with the additional controllability I recently got on my plane from
adding gap seals might up the wind limits a bit. It's inspiring to know I
could do pretty long trips given enough time and weather.....
I've done some trips in my FS of 20 to 30 miles recently, and am looking
forward to doing more soon as I have the time and the weather for em....
Anyway, I enjoyed seeing this site.....
LS
N646F
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| Subject: | Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| I was very intrigued/inspired by the trip made to OR from el paso in
a pair
| of firestars....
|
| LS
LS/Gang:
Wil Uribe is part of the Kolb List family.
He and Dave Raines did the flight in 2001, I believe. I'm sure Wil
will respond to your post. I enjoyed following their flight on the
internet. At the same time I was on my way to Barrow, Alaska. When I
would have access to a computer I would get on line to see how Wil and
Dave were making out. I was very proud of their effort and the
successful completion of their flight.
From your previous postings, I took for granted you were an
experienced cross country two stroke flyer.
Serious cross country flights have been conducted with two strokes for
many years. In two years I flew my point ignition 447 powered
original Firestar in all the States east of the Mississippi River, and
some west of the Mississippi, plus Canada. That was 1987 to 1989.
Biggest problem I had was vibration would eventually destroy the coils
which were hard mounted on the engine, plus keeping the engine timed
correctly because of normal wear on the ign pts rubbing block and wear
of the micarta pivot bushing. I am sure you are familiar with these
problems if you have experience with the older Rotax engines. The
advent of CDI for the Rotax two stroke was wonderful for folks that
put a lot of hours on the two strokes during cross country flights.
BTW: All of my flights, from the first XC in my 1984 Kolb Ultrastar
on, were solo and completely unsupported. I usually rough it,
sleeping under the wing, finding chow and showers when I can.
I have been very fortunate during the years of my Kolb hobby. Been
poor, but happy. After retiring from the Army in 1980, I learned to
live on limited funds which allowed me to not have to seek a second
career. This gave me the opportunity to devote most of my time to my
hobby. Primarily, if I got caught out by weather or mechanical
problems, I did not have to worry about getting back to my job on
Monday morning.
Experiencing extended cross country flights in Kolb aircraft are very
exciting for me, whether two or four stroke powered. A day flight or
48 day flight, they are all the same. Like walking, cross country
flights are a series of short steps tied together.
John Jung has the cross country bug. He did his first serious cross
country flight to MV last May. If I was going to cross country his
airplane, the first thing I would do is get it set up to do just that.
The open area behind the bulkhead would be the new home of the largest
custom fabricated fuel tank that would fit in that space. This would
open up the lower bay for cargo. One must be comfortable with his
airplane's capabilities to be able to enjoy extended cross country
flying in little airplanes. We built a 25 gal (useable) fuel tank for
my MKIII before it left the factory. It was initially powered by a
582 that burned 5 to 5.5 gph. A 20 gal tank should be doable for the
FSII. I had an 18 gal tank in the original FS, placed in the same
location as the one in my MKIII, up top behind the bulk head. On the
stock MKIII this is also an open, unused area.
Along with enough fuel, one should have good quality camping gear.
Nothing can replace a Thermarest air mattress. Got to be comfortable
to get a good night's sleep so we can enjoy the next day's flight. A
"shake down" overnight flight is a good idea to see if the gear one
has is going to get the job done. Followed by a flight of a couple
two or three days. Then you are ready to head out indefinitely.
There are a few of us cross country nuts that feel comfortable
climbing in our Kolbs, heading out, not knowing when we will land the
next time at our home fields. It is a great feeling. Takes me back
to what it must have been like to have been a barnstormer in the 20's
and 30's. I guess that is what keeps me going in this hobby after all
these years.
Looking forward to the Unplanned/Unorganized 2006 Kolb Flyin next May.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Trailering A Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Don,
Twin axles give a far superior ride because when one wheel hits a
pot hole, the other wheel keeps the trailer level. You will want to get the
lightest rated axles possible that will still support the trailer loaded.
If you ever put a g-meter on your plane, you will faint at the loads seen
while trailering. If you are going to trailer the kolb on a regular
basis, then you need a purpose built trailer. Don't compromise it with a
multi-use design or planning for the guy who might buy it someday. Rubber
torsional axles are the ultimate choice as they dampen the shocks better
than springs, plus, unlike springs, they dissipate much of the energy into
heat. It is like having shock absorbers. -Richard Swiderski
: Trailering A Kolb
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
I'm in the market for a trailer for the Firestar II. Trying to decide which
axles to go with. A 24 footer with dual 5000 lb axles would be easier to
sell if later I needed to, but it would seem that this stiff suspension
would beat the plane to death on the road. The 3500 lb axles would seem to
give a softer ride. Any ideas???
Don Martin (covering the Firestar II)
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| Subject: | Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>From your previous postings, I took for granted you were an
>experienced cross country two stroke flyer.
>
Oh lord no, I wish - I'm a very experienced 2-stroke flyer, but my
cross-country experience in small aircraft is still very limited. I did
quite a bit xcountry work in my general avaiation days, but my xcountry
efforts in my UL/light plane days have been, well, actually somewhat
pathetic.
Some of that had to do with the aircraft types I've flown in that period. My
first was my quicksilver MX Super. The main limitations on that plane were
gas and insufficient wind screen. Pretty uncomfortable for long treks (this
one had a points 503 in it which gave me the retarded timing problem as the
cam wore too) although it was great for just about everything else. Then
there was my trike, which was very small and light (made part 103 weight in
fact with the 447 and single surface wing) and was somewhat limited in terms
of control.
Rest of the time has been due to lack of time or unemployment, etc....
That's the main reason I bought my Firestar, it's so much more capable in
all respects than either of my other two planes. I've already done 3 short
xcountries in it and it was so much fun after each one I couldn't sleep at
night waiting to plan the next one.
And of course, I avidly read your adventures as well as the others on the
list for fun as well as the excellent information you've accumulated from
your experience.
In fact, I'm already looking at the chart for possible places to go this
weekend....
LS
N646F
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| Subject: | Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I did
| quite a bit xcountry work in my general avaiation days, but my
xcountry
| efforts in my UL/light plane days have been, well, actually somewhat
| pathetic.
|
| LS
LS/Gang:
Looks like you have already discovered that GA types do cross country
work. Us ultralight types to cross country pleasure.
Take care and Merry Xmas,
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Some years back the late Ken Brock flew his gyrocopter powered with a McCULLOCK
two stroke from Los Angeles to Kitty hawk N.C. with no unusual difficulties.
As you know, that engine is WW2 vintage drone power. I flew one for many, many
hours in the 1960's with never a missed beat. I was the first on the west coast
to go to all synthetic oil in one and boy, did it make a difference for good.
Before I used Shell 50 for the mixture.
UltraStar ... TN
Do not archive.
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
I did
| quite a bit xcountry work in my general avaiation days, but my
xcountry
| efforts in my UL/light plane days have been, well, actually somewhat
| pathetic.
|
| LS
LS/Gang:
Looks like you have already discovered that GA types do cross country
work. Us ultralight types to cross country pleasure.
Take care and Merry Xmas,
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: speaking of long hauls with 2-strokes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>LS/Gang:
>
>Looks like you have already discovered that GA types do cross country
>work. Us ultralight types to cross country pleasure.
>
I had to laugh out loud when I read this, because that's exactly why I left
GA and went into ultralighting (and ultimately wound up with my Kolb)....
The typical GA airplanes just get boring to fly after a while - but the view
from a Kolb or any pusher aircraft never quits....
LS
N646F
do not archive
>Take care and Merry Xmas,
>
>john h
>MKIII/912ULS
>hauck's holler, alabama
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering A Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Don,
I have a 24' with the 3500 lb axels and it gives my Kolb a very soft ride.
You are right about the 5000 lb. axels being rough on the plane and I think
that you will find that should you want to sell your trailer later on that
you will have absolutly no problem doing so.
If you are going to pull your plane quite a bit, go for the 3500 lb axel, if
the trailer is just going to be a hanger then it doesn't really matter.
Chris Mallory
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering A Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm in the market for a trailer for the Firestar II. Trying to decide
> which
> axles to go with. A 24 footer with dual 5000 lb axles would be easier to
> sell if later I needed to, but it would seem that this stiff suspension
> would beat the plane to death on the road. The 3500 lb axles would seem
> to
> give a softer ride. Any ideas???
>
> Don Martin (covering the Firestar II)
>
>>From: DCulver701@aol.com
>>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering A Kolb
>>Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:53:19 EST
>>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DCulver701@aol.com
>>
>>Thanks George, for the great shots of Richard Swiderski,s custom built
>>trailer. The trailer is very unique with great design features. Did you
>>design &
>>build it yourself, Richard? If You did, it was one heck of a nice job.
>>What
>>type of trailer did you start with, or was it designed from the ground up?
>>I
>>didn't see any dimensions for length & width, weight, or materials used?
>>Is
>>that available someplace? Again , thanks George for posting the pictures.
>>Best
>>regards. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year everyone. Dave Culver
>>
>>
>
>
>
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required 4.6, BAYES_44 -0.00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Thanks Jim,
That was just the first time I had seen "Special" LSA and was curious.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: slsa
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Lucien,
>
> There is too much information on LSA, SLSA and ELSA aircraft and the new
sport pilot and LSA rules to give to you in a single post. Suggest you do a
little research first at the EAA webpages devoted to Sport Pilot and Light
Sport Aircraft (www.eaa.org)
>
> If you have specific questions I then recommend you join the Yahoo
Sportplane and Sport_Aircraft fora, where these new FAA rulings are
discussed in great detail. After joining you can access the archives of
these fora which have a wealth of information.
>
> Suffice it to say, the Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft rulings are
having a major impact on General Aviation, resulting in 23 aircraft being
certified as Special Light Sport Aircraft by the FAA in the last 9 months.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Pellien
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> www.MASPL.com
> 703-313-4818
> jim@sportsplanes.com
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:57:41 +0000
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen"
<lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
> >
> >>Jim P. Others,
> >>
> >>What is SLSA (special light sport aircraft)?
> >
> >Hi Paul,
> >
> >There's some info on SLSA here:
> >
> >http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/
> >
> >It's a bit cryptic, written in a kind of proto-FARese, ;), but it should
> >give you the general idea.
> >
> >The main thing to keep in mind about SLSA is they cost up the wazoo
;)....
> >
> >LS
> >N646F
> >
> >>Paul Petty
> >>Building Ms. Dixie
> >>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
> >>www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
> >>
> >>do not archive
> >>
> >>I.L.D.S.!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HKS on a Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Dave and Group,
Yes, I regularly fly with Chuck, who has a Firestar II powered by a 65
hp Hirth. He easily out climbs me, and runs about 500 rpm less at the
same speed. We burn about the same amount of gas, and I think he said
that the weight was about the same as a 503. Chuck was at Monument
Valley last spring, so many of you have seen pictures of his plane. His
is the Firestar with the blue nose with white stars. I have not heard
him complain about having too much power.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
John J.,
What does Chuck have on his Firestar? Isn't it a Hirth - 65 hp?
You
know him better than I do, maybe you can enlighten us on his
satisfaction.
As best I know he is quite happy with it.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering A Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I've been following this thread with some interest, tho' I haven't even
trailered my Kolb yet. I have, however, trailered many boats for hundreds
of thousands of miles over the last 40 years, (seems like I've said this
before ??) and I've seen what overly stiff springs can do to the boat and
trailer. I assume you're talking about 3500 lb per axle ?? That's 7,000
lbs capacity, right ?? In a ~2,000 lb trailer, carrying a +/- 500 lb
airplane ?? What I've done on several boat trailers, is remove one or 2
leaves from the springs, to soften the ride, while retaining enuf capacity
to handle the load. A real eye opener is to ride in the boat while it's
being towed down a rough road at speed. (don't do it when the cops are
watching) That will really get your attention, believe me. Make sure
someone is watching you, so you can flag the driver to stop. You won't want
to ride there for long. Earlier, shocks were mentioned. I don't know as
I've ever seen a trailer with shocks. Why not ?? Have you ever ridden in a
car that's had the shocks removed ?? Not just worn out, but actually
removed ?? That'll get your attention, too. Why don't we put shocks on our
trailers ?? I dunno, but I sincerely wish there were some way to adapt some
to my current boat trailer.....and to Vamoose' trailer.
Shocking Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering A Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Don,
> I have a 24' with the 3500 lb axels and it gives my Kolb a very soft ride.
> You are right about the 5000 lb. axels being rough on the plane and I
> think
> that you will find that should you want to sell your trailer later on that
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