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1. 09:49 AM - Tie downs, gust locks (Domenic Perez)
2. 10:13 AM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (David Key)
3. 10:44 AM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (Larry Cottrell)
4. 11:08 AM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (John Hauck)
5. 11:22 AM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
6. 12:10 PM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (John Hauck)
7. 04:52 PM - Rebuilt Cranks (Bob and Jenn B)
8. 05:41 PM - Re: Rebuilt Cranks (lucien stavenhagen)
9. 05:47 PM - Firestar 2 windscreen (WADE LAWICKI)
10. 05:54 PM - Re: Tie downs, gust locks (HShack@aol.com)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: Firestar 2 windscreen (Steven Green)
12. 06:45 PM - Re: Firestar 2 windscreen (John Jung)
13. 06:49 PM - Re: Rebuilt Cranks (Richard Pike)
14. 07:26 PM - Re: Firestar 2 windscreen (Herb Gayheart)
15. 07:46 PM - Re: Firestar 2 windscreen (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
All,
What are you guys carrying with you in the plane, by way of tie downs and gust
locks and what does it all weigh? Any tips for making sure the plane is still
there the next morning? I'm thinking of especially the stake thingys to be
driven or screwed in the ground at some unimproved location while on a cross
country, when your'e kind of "forced" to wait out bad weather or nightfall. Also,
do you think wratchet straps around the joystick are sufficient gust locks?
Dave Pelletier of AZ has fabricated a joystick lock with a ring (to go on the
stick) and wratchet straps that is about as good as that method can get. Dave,
pics? Standard type gust locks are probably out of the question for carrying
in the plane on cross country trips - or are they? For that matter, what kind
of gust locks do you use when you don't have to worry about carrying them in
the plane? Is there ever a reason to fold the wings if the plane will be left
outside?
M. Domenic Perez
Vaughn, NM
FS II
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| Subject: | Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I use these for overnight stays. They have a pack to carry them in, I
wouldn't trust them if the wind gets going? http://www.airtimemfg.com/
>From: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Tie downs, gust locks
>Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:49:14 -0700
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez"
><perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
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>All,
> What are you guys carrying with you in the plane, by way of tie downs
>and gust locks and what does it all weigh? Any tips for making sure the
>plane is still there the next morning? I'm thinking of especially the stake
>thingys to be driven or screwed in the ground at some unimproved location
>while on a cross country, when your'e kind of "forced" to wait out bad
>weather or nightfall. Also, do you think wratchet straps around the
>joystick are sufficient gust locks? Dave Pelletier of AZ has fabricated a
>joystick lock with a ring (to go on the stick) and wratchet straps that is
>about as good as that method can get. Dave, pics? Standard type gust locks
>are probably out of the question for carrying in the plane on cross country
>trips - or are they? For that matter, what kind of gust locks do you use
>when you don't have to worry about carrying them in the plane? Is there
>ever a reason to fold the wings if the plane will be left outside?
>
>M. Domenic Perez
>Vaughn, NM
>FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Tie downs, gust locks
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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> I use these for overnight stays. They have a pack to carry them in, I
> wouldn't trust them if the wind gets going? http://www.airtimemfg.com/
I use them as well, the only thing that I don't like about them is the ropes
are just a bit too short for my firestar. They will work but should be about
a foot longer. I guess on whether or not I would trust them when the wing
gest to really blowing, that would depend on the type of soil. I know they
have seen some pretty windy days on the Alvord Desert. One of the nice
things about them is their weight and toughness.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
nice
| things about them is their weight and toughness.
| Larry,Oregon
Hi Folks:
You got that right, Larry, they do work good in the Alvord. I have a
pair of them also.
I never worry about their ability to hold, if I can get them into the
soil, unless it is something like beach sand.
The one draw back is rocky terrain. They are not going to penetrate
that kind of soil, which is what we find most in the Western States.
If you can get them to worm their way down and through the rocks, they
will not pull out.
To be completely covered, in addition to the titanium tie downs, I
have a set of three stakes made from rebar with a chaing link welded
to the side of the rebar near the top. The business end is ground to
a point to help it penetrate between rocks, and a handly survival
hachet will do the job of driving them down far enough to hold.
After an eye opening experience with a micro burst or some other
unexplained weather phenomonen at Moab, Utah, May 2005, the Kolb gang
I frequently cross country with very aware of the necessity of tying
down securely. Would be a terrible way to lose one's airplane, for
lack of adequate tie down.
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year everyone!!!
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
PS: Gusts locks I don't have, per se. However, the seat belt,
snugged around the stick pulled full aft will work for ailerons and
elevators. The rudder can be secured with a cheap bungee cord with
hooks, like the ones you can buy at Wal*Mart. Simply wrap the bungee
around the vertical part of the rudder pedals snugly. This will lock
the rudder. If you have a full swivel tailwheel that is locked to the
rudder until it hits extreme deflection left or right, this will keep
the wind from beating up the rudder, and the bungee is not needed on
the pedals. Just make sure the tail wheel swivel is engaged and not
in the tripped position.
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| Subject: | Re: Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM05@comcast.net>
I use 5 dog style twist in tiedowns. I remove the rings from the dog tie
downs and hook the ropes to the handles. I attach one with ropes to each
wing were the strut attaches to the wing and one to each wing fold fittings.
Then I attach the fifth to the tail wheel. Some of the guys I camp with for
a week at a time at Oshkosh think I get carried away but when the wind blows
hard I sleep very well. As for gust locks I hook the seat belt over the
stick and synch it down. The rudder is constrained a bit by the tail wheel
but that doesn't work very well. I have seen people tie a rope around the
rudder peddles and that seems to work better.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Tie downs, gust locks
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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> I use these for overnight stays. They have a pack to carry them in, I
> wouldn't trust them if the wind gets going? http://www.airtimemfg.com/
>
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>>From: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
>>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kolb-List: Tie downs, gust locks
>>Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:49:14 -0700
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez"
>><perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
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>>All,
>> What are you guys carrying with you in the plane, by way of tie downs
>>and gust locks and what does it all weigh? Any tips for making sure the
>>plane is still there the next morning? I'm thinking of especially the
>>stake
>>thingys to be driven or screwed in the ground at some unimproved location
>>while on a cross country, when your'e kind of "forced" to wait out bad
>>weather or nightfall. Also, do you think wratchet straps around the
>>joystick are sufficient gust locks? Dave Pelletier of AZ has fabricated a
>>joystick lock with a ring (to go on the stick) and wratchet straps that is
>>about as good as that method can get. Dave, pics? Standard type gust locks
>>are probably out of the question for carrying in the plane on cross
>>country
>>trips - or are they? For that matter, what kind of gust locks do you use
>>when you don't have to worry about carrying them in the plane? Is there
>>ever a reason to fold the wings if the plane will be left outside?
>>
>>M. Domenic Perez
>>Vaughn, NM
>>FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Rick Neilsen
Hi Rick/Gang:
John W also used the wing fold fitting for his primary attach point
for his wing tie downs. During our little weather ordeal at Moab last
May, both wing fold fittings pulled free, completely, from the main
spar. Might hold those wings when they are folded and in stress, but
those 1/8" rivets will hardly hold their own weight in tension. A
miracle JW did not lose his Kolbra.
Thought I should share that tid bit of info with you since you are
using the wing fold fitting.
If I had doubts about one rope holding the wing at the upper lift
strut fitting, I'd put two ropes and two stakes on each fitting,
rather than the wing fold fitting.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Has anyone had experience with rebuilt Rotax cranks? With the cost of a new
one at $900+, a rebuilt one starts to sound pretty good.
Bob
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>Has anyone had experience with rebuilt Rotax cranks? With the cost of a
>new
>one at $900+, a rebuilt one starts to sound pretty good.
The only one I know that rebuilds rotax cranks is a guy named Steve Beatty.
His operation is called airscrew performance I believe.
I don't have any personal experience, but I've heard both good and bad about
both Steve B. and the rebuilt cranks. Caveat Emptor is all I can offer
therefore....
My personal opinion: being as how my firestar isn't a stupendous glider, ;),
anything inside the motor, particularly the crank, is the last place I like
to cut any corners or do any experimentation. I only replace with factory
new genuine rotax parts on anything having to do with the motor if a new
part is needed.
JMO,
LS
N646F
>Bob
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| Subject: | Firestar 2 windscreen |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Group,
I`m looking for some alternative designs for a full enclosure, factory design
seems to be lacking and i know this group is very creative. pics would be great,
i couldn't`t find any in the archives. Anyone know where to find the discount
Lexan around Tn. or mail order? Thanks Guys and Gals,
Wade FS2 #1030
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| Subject: | Re: Tie downs, gust locks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 12/26/2005 1:14:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, dhkey@msn.com
writes:
I use these for overnight stays. They have a pack to carry them in, I
wouldn't trust them if the wind gets going? http://www.airtimemfg.com/
Yeah, me too. And as for "gust locks", I secure the stick with my seat belt
with the help of one 18" bunjii.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar 2 windscreen |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Anyone know where to find the discount Lexan around Tn. or mail order?
Thanks Guys and Gals,
>
> Wade FS2 #1030
> do not archive
Wade,
If Chattanooga is close enough I can get you the name of a place that is
reasonable on Lexan. I don't have the name now but my son bought some in
Cha. when he was making some bodys for RC cars last year.
Steven G
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar 2 windscreen |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Wade and Group,
My firestar has 1/16 inch lexan for rear side windows and an aluminum
piece with sound insulation in the back. I added the enclosure so that
my wife would be more comfortable, but I liked it from the first
flight. I added vents so that I could control the temperature some, and
I'd never go back to flying without the rear enclosure.
Also, I have a domed fiberglass piece above my head to stop the high
speed draft. The rest of the enclosure is stock Kolb.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Group,
I`m looking for some alternative designs for a full enclosure,
factory design
seems to be lacking and i know this group is very creative.
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilt Cranks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Several years ago I had a 532 spin the drive gear at the center of the
crank. Central Snowmobile rebuilt it for about $300, and gave me a warranty.
When I talked to the guy on the phone, I specified that it was from an
aircraft engine, he was like no big deal, we have parts for those too.
Easy company to work with.
Ended up replacing the engine with a zero timed 582 before I ever had a
chance to use it again, sold it, so don't know how it held up.
Here is their url-
http://www.centralsnowmobile.com/Central/crankshaft.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Bob and Jenn B wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
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>Has anyone had experience with rebuilt Rotax cranks? With the cost of a new
>one at $900+, a rebuilt one starts to sound pretty good.
>
>Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar 2 windscreen |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Wade
Couple of my buds came down to your strip a couple of months ago.. I
have meant to get down also..
Bruce Plastic in Gallatin Tenn. North on 109 toward Portland has Lexan
at 50 some odd dollars for a 4X8 sheet of .0625 . That price was good
a few months ago... Herb
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:46:54 -0800 (PST) WADE LAWICKI
<wlawicki@yahoo.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> I`m looking for some alternative designs for a full enclosure,
> factory design seems to be lacking and i know this group is very
> creative. pics would be great, i couldn't`t find any in the
> archives. Anyone know where to find the discount Lexan around Tn. or
> mail order? Thanks Guys and Gals,
>
> Wade FS2 #1030
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar 2 windscreen |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "WADE LAWICKI" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar 2 windscreen
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> I`m looking for some alternative designs for a full enclosure, factory
> design seems to be lacking and i know this group is very creative. pics
> would be great, i couldn't`t find any in the archives. Anyone know where
> to find the discount Lexan around Tn. or mail order? Thanks Guys and
> Gals,
>
> Wade FS2 #1030
> do not archive
http://www.harborsales.net/fullsheetlookup.cfm?categoryID=7&subcategoryID=12&cat=Plastic%20Sheets
Try this. I used it to make my new enclosure. The only problem to my mind is
that it comes in 1/16 or 1/8. Something in between would be nice. I used the
1/16th and one side of it will flex at higher speeds. The 1/16th is about
$50. and the 1/8th is about 90.00 I had no problem in dealing with them.
You may have to copy and then paste the url.
Larry, Or
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