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1. 05:10 AM - Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons (N27SB@aol.com)
2. 06:04 AM - Speaking of GPS (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons (Airgriff2@aol.com)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Speaking of GPS (Chris Mallory)
5. 06:30 AM - Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 (cont) (Airgriff2@aol.com)
6. 07:21 AM - Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 (cont) (John Hauck)
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Weather (Vic Peters)
8. 08:15 AM - Re: fuel monitored by GPS (Vic Peters)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: fuel monitored by GPS (Robert Laird)
10. 09:21 AM - Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons (ray anderson)
11. 09:41 AM - Firefly for sale (Guy Morgan)
12. 10:11 AM - tach signal (boyd)
13. 12:08 PM - Tach hook up (Mike Pierzina)
14. 01:32 PM - Re: Firefly for sale (Terry Frantz)
15. 01:48 PM - Re: Firefly for sale (Guy Morgan)
16. 02:01 PM - Re: fuel monitored by GPS (Vic Peters)
17. 04:34 PM - tank cleaning (Russ Kinne)
18. 05:51 PM - Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons (Michael Bigelow)
19. 05:58 PM - Re: MV (Larry Bourne)
20. 06:02 PM - Re: MV (Larry Bourne)
21. 06:12 PM - Re: fuel monitored by GPS (Larry Bourne)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: biglar (Larry Bourne)
23. 07:04 PM - MV 2006 (John Hauck)
24. 07:13 PM - MV 2006 (John Hauck)
25. 07:15 PM - Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 (cont) (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
26. 07:29 PM - Re: biglar (Beauford)
27. 07:46 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Larry Cottrell)
28. 07:55 PM - Re: MV 2006 (John Hauck)
29. 09:01 PM - Slingshot (WADE LAWICKI)
30. 09:23 PM - Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 1/6/2006 10:03:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rsanoa@yahoo.com writes:
>
> David Key <dhkey@msn.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David
> Key"
>
> <<<<Wait a minute... I thought the fiberglass tank was a great idea, but
> certian gas will ruin the fiberglass gas tank? I consider that a pretty big
> detail to leave out. Did I miss something so certian gas will ruin a fiberglass
> gas
> tank? >>>>>
>
> There are epoxies that are impervious to any gasoline mixture. There are
> hundreds and hundreds of Brock seat tanks flying for years on gyrocopters and
> small aircraft. No problems ever mentioned. I never had any problems with
> mine. Just inquire for the proper epoxy, not at WalMart !!!
> UltraStar .. Tenn
>
David,
A few months ago I had the chance to inspect the fuel tanks on Long_EZ
N27SB. They have had constant exposure to AVGAS for over 22 years. The surface
on
the inside was still hard and crisp. These tanks were built using the original
Safe-T-Poxy supplied by Aircraft Spruce. This material was also used for car
gas tanks. I do not know if the new "Safer" Safe-T-Poxy will work. You are
right that some car gas will destroy the epoxy matrix in some epoxy formulas.
In the case of the Long-EZ this would be catastrophic because the rear wall of
the tank is also the main spar. I would check with someone like Bever at
AirTech. The spar riding tanks that they use for the Quicksilver are Glass.
I have been wanting to build a new tank for FF#007 so If I research the
material I will post it. If anyone else knows, Lend a hand.
BTW, The real problem with tank degradation is not a mushy tank. The engine
will usually quit long before the tank falls apart because the dissolved
chemicals will create a gum or plate the components of your fuel system.
Steve
FF#007
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Any opinions out there (silly question) on the best overall GPS unit for our
type flying? I like the Garmin pilot lll but they are hard to come by now.
Looking at the Garmin 96 and Lowrance 500 but have not been able to see actual
units yet. Any one using either?
Larry Tasker
N615RT
MKlll x 582
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/aspx/display_id.2524/qx/product.htm
John & gang, here is the source of the 16 gal tank I installed on my MK3.
This company carries many designs & sizes of fuel cells and tanks. I cut and
installed my vent, fill, guage, and outlet openings to suit my needs. I did need
to cut 2 fuslage tubings to install the tank and sleeved, drilled, and bolted
them back in place.
fly safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Check out the Garmin 296 it pretty much does it all.
Same size as the 196 great for any type of flying in any type aircraft.
Chrsi Mallory
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From: <Cat36Fly@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Speaking of GPS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
>
> Any opinions out there (silly question) on the best overall GPS unit for
> our
> type flying? I like the Garmin pilot lll but they are hard to come by now.
> Looking at the Garmin 96 and Lowrance 500 but have not been able to see
> actual
> units yet. Any one using either?
>
> Larry Tasker
> N615RT
> MKlll x 582
>
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| Subject: | Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
http://www.gouldings.com/english/index.htm
Sorry about that. Nuthin' new, my forgetfulness!!!!!!!!!!
john h
John, does the air strip at Gouldings, have an identifier?
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 |
(cont)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Bob Griffin
Morning Bob G/Gang:
Yes it does, UT25.
Here is Airnav's info page on MV:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
Take a look at the photo of the airstrip. Looks pretty intimidating
on your first approach with that 800 foot rock wall in front of you.
However, note that the 4,000 strip is dirt with a short paved section
at the south end. If there is no traffic on the ground, the Kolbs can
land on the paved strip. The strip is low in the middle and has a
nice rise to it to the south.
Right center of the photo is the service station, snack bar, and
convenience store. Directly above the service station at up on the
foot of the mesa is the lodge, resturant, trading post museum, and
gift shop.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Ellery, You could tell me how to cut those 1/8" rods and move them to fit.
Tig? What about a new bottom support pan? Did you have to make a new one?
I doubt you'd want to build a metal tank baffles and all for less than $200.
I can't imagine how much vinyl graphics I could cut in trade. LOL
Vic Peters
MX3X
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| Subject: | Re: fuel monitored by GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Robert or anyone else'
I know you can get GPS software that alows you to use a palm pilot or
even better a laptop for a moving map. Is there also any way to interface
engine sending units?
Vic Peters
MK3X
Vic's Vinyl Lettering
Millinocket, Me.
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| Subject: | Re: fuel monitored by GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Vic --
If you mean taking "information" from a sender and having it input
into a Palm or laptop? Well, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm *pretty* sure
that most standard senders are sending analog signals. So, to get
them into any kind of digital device -- like a Pam or laptop -- you'd
have to have an analog-to-digital interface.
Is this what you're talking about?
-- Robert
On 1/7/06, Vic Peters <vicsvinyl@verizon.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
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> Robert or anyone else'
> I know you can get GPS software that alows you to use a palm pilot or
> even better a laptop for a moving map. Is there also any way to interface
> engine sending units?
>
> Vic Peters
> MK3X
> Vic's Vinyl Lettering
> Millinocket, Me.
> do not archive
>
>
> --
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Glass.
I have been wanting to build a new tank for FF#007 so If I research the
material I will post it. If anyone else knows, Lend a hand. >>>>>>
Steve
FF#007
An addition to my earlier post. If you build a glass "structure," when ordering
cloth, foam and epoxy, get small amounts of glass beads and flox. This material
is mixed with the epoxy for special points and applications. Easy to use
but one probably should read up on building glass structures or get a friend
to give you a quick course. I believe Aircraft Spruce has for sale easy to read
booklets on the subject. Really easy to master and satisfying when the piece
is finished.
UltraStar ... Tenn
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| Subject: | Firefly for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
Howdy Folks,
Regretfully, I am putting my Firefly up for sale. It was bought in May '04
from another list member. It has approx 180 hours on the airframe and
engine, BRS, EIS, ICOM A22, brakes, strobe, very strong 447, new tires, new
fuel lines, new gap seal, and a few extras. Extremely well built and a blast
to fly. I'm asking $9500 for the plane. When I get a chance, I will post
some pics. Email me if you have any questions.
Best Regards,
Guy Morgan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
George,
Unless I am reading the schematic wrong, the tach signal is tapped off the
input signal and that is what confuses me a bit. Why can I get a good signal
from one rectifier but not another? Evidently, the signal to a Key West gets
saturated (no cycles) at times resulting in some funky readouts. Inquiring
minds want to know.
Larry Tasker
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It seems to me that a digital tach is a signal counter. thus it must see
some type of change in voltage level inorder to count the rpms. one
possibility that could cause the tach not to work on the lighting coil is
that the voltage change is not high enough. In ham radio my signal
counter has a variable input trigger level... that makes it helpful in
testing different types of signals.. If the tack has a signal trigger
level of say 20 volts and the lighting coil is only showing 17. it may or
may not count correctly.. An other possibility. could be the range..
Some lighting coils could produce 2, 3, 6, or more pulses per revolution
which would give an invalid reading, or go beyond the limits of the counter,
(tach) .
So if we know the signal level and the output of the device we are trying to
count we could then determine if the system should or should not work. As
for why one rectifier would work and another would not may depend on weather
it is a full or half wave rectifier. Guys I am grasping at straws on this
one.. But if the rectifier has a lower level of resistance.. It may pull
the trigger voltage down to below the level required by the tach.
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boyd
ps just read snuffy's post and we have said the same thing but he used fewer
words.
The output of a rectifier alone is a pulsing DC signal. When capacitors
and other types of filters are added it becomes a smooth dc signal.
Frequency and amplitude are the main concerns when feeding it into a
tach.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Guys,
I don't know about all these "boxes" yer going into , and trying
to come out of......My 503 has a GREY wire that hooks diectly to the tach
input......Mine went to the EIS.....but otherwise it would have ran directly
to the tach......it did say to run the wire "separate" from the other wires to
avoid interference...
Keepin it simple...
Gotta Fly...
Mike
in MN N381PM
Firestar I&II Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down...
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Guy Morgan wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Howdy Folks,
>
>Regretfully, I am putting my Firefly up for sale. It was bought in May '04
>from another list member. It has approx 180 hours on the airframe and
>engine, BRS, EIS, ICOM A22, brakes, strobe, very strong 447, new tires, new
>fuel lines, new gap seal, and a few extras. Extremely well built and a blast
>to fly. I'm asking $9500 for the plane. When I get a chance, I will post
>some pics. Email me if you have any questions.
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Guy Morgan
>
>
>
>
Guy,
What part of the country are you located in?
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
Sorry, I'm in Galveston, TX. The Firefly is hangered at Scholes Field.
(KGLS)
Guy
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----Original Message Follows----
From: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly for sale
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Guy Morgan wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Howdy Folks,
>
>Regretfully, I am putting my Firefly up for sale. It was bought in May '04
>from another list member. It has approx 180 hours on the airframe and
>engine, BRS, EIS, ICOM A22, brakes, strobe, very strong 447, new tires,
new
>fuel lines, new gap seal, and a few extras. Extremely well built and a
blast
>to fly. I'm asking $9500 for the plane. When I get a chance, I will post
>some pics. Email me if you have any questions.
>
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>Best Regards,
>Guy Morgan
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Guy,
What part of the country are you located in?
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: fuel monitored by GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Vic --
If you mean taking "information" from a sender and having it input
into a Palm or laptop? Well, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm *pretty* sure
that most standard senders are sending analog signals. So, to get
them into any kind of digital device -- like a Pam or laptop -- you'd
have to have an analog-to-digital interface.
Is this what you're talking about?
-- Robert
I'm not really sure. Does an EIS monitoring system change analog at the
sender or at the panel?
www.deluoelectronics.com does have GPS plugins for laps & PDA's. You then
use any mapping software for a moving map.
Vic do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Russ Kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Instead of buckshot try a length of brass "bead-chain" as is used on
hanging light fixtures. Works great and is easy to store, use, and
remove.
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Bigelow" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Be careful with autogas and epoxy and foam, as some auto gas will eat right
through that stuff. If there is auto gas safe expoxy, make sure you do your
research and buy the right stuff. I remember reading about an experimental
airplane with built in wing tanks, they ususally used Avgas which was fine,
but when they used auto gas it started eating away the epoxy, and the foam
inside the wing etc. They took off and before they departed the airport
area the wing broke off and killed them..
Michael Bigelow
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"NO FEAR" If you have no fear, you did not go as fast as you could have...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Pat, take a look on my website, in the Monument Valley pages under
Traveling. Lots of pics there, showing the layout, as well as the
scenery...........
........which reminds me - I got so caught up in the magazine article on the
last MV trip that I forgot to build my own page. Just recently ran across
the pics I'd prepped for it. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Are we set for May 19th thru 21st at MV?>>
>
> Hi All and a Happy New Year.
>
> Can anyone let me have info on MV. Apart from being spectacular and a long
> way from anywhere else ....well...thats it.
>
> What accomodation is there? Do I have to rent a trailer? What do you all
> do
> apart from fly , early and late presumably, and talk.
>
> That sounds OK by me if someone can find me a spare seat and get my feet
> off the ground accasionally but it is Wendy`s vacation as well and just
> driving around a desert in the heat looking at rocks is not going to
> appeal
> to her for long.
>
> Anyone point me in the right direction or maybe the Kolb fly-in later in
> the year is a better bet?
>
> Latest on my plane. She looks lovely, by the way. Permission to test fly
> was requested last November. Officialdom sat on it for almost a month and
> then returned the form as I had not signed it. Jumpin` Jehosophat!
> Returned
> the form last Dec 5th. After several pokes from Kiwi Mick, who wants
> to
> get my plane out of his hangar, a phone call yesterday elicited the
> promise
> that the Permission will be granted today (Friday) so I may get it
> tomorrow.
> I am not holding my breath. Bureaucracy!
> The weather now is pretty poor so when testing actually takes place in the
> lap of the gods.
>
> So whats new?
>
> Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Lookin' forward to seein' ya there, George. Can't guarantee I'll be flying
anything, but the ol' diesel Dodge can prob'ly make it one more time.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson"
> <eagle1@commspeed.net>
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> For anyone who gives a flip. I plan on being on my third MV outing. And
> for
> all of you who have never been there. You are missing one of the great
> wonders of the world, and reasonable.
> Az Bald eagle.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV
>
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>> <pelletier@cableone.net>
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>> Pat,
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>> I/we could describe things but probably the best bet is to go to
>> www.gouldings.com and get it straight from them.
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>> AzDave
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| Subject: | Re: fuel monitored by GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
The 196 has NEMA 0183 (??) inputs and outputs. I've been using mine on my
boat, (! ! !....Robert :-) hooked to my VHF radio to give lat/long
readouts on the VHF's panel. Mostly for gee-whiz, but there's a faint
possibility that it may come in handy some day. Now, if only the fishfinder
could talk/listen to it. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: fuel monitored by GPS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
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> List;
> I have been on Ebay for the last week trying to buy a Garmin 196. I was
> finally successful yesterday, but one of the units that I was monitoring
> was from a pilot in Auke,Alaska. He claimed to have his fuel levels hooked
> up to his 196. His quote is below
>
> "This great little GPS has been a faithful addition to the cockpit.
> In addition to what you know about this portable wonder, I can tell you
> that I had it connected to my fuel flow instrument and wired to the power
> bus in our airplane using the optional data/power cable, and it worked
> like a charm - always aware of the fuel remaining and needed for the
> flight to the next waypoint, and for the rest of the trip." When I queried
> him about it he replied - I am using a JPI FS 450 fuel flow unit - cat's
> meow. Has a small turbine in the sending unit that can be calibrated to
> just about any flow. The unit is designed to talk to GPSs.
>
>
> Is any one familiar with this function or where he got the unit to do
> this with?
>
>
> Larry, Or
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I just gotta rub it in a bit, ol' buddy. This is the weather I paid the
dues for last summer, here in Furnace Springs. I just got back from 2 days
on the Colorado River, where I ran the boat from Cottonwood Cove on Lake
Mojave up to the base of Hoover Dam - 38 miles each way. Beautiful trip -
after I get thru editing over 150 pictures, I'll send ya some. It was sunny
and fairly warm there, with quite cool evenings. I'd guess 35 low and 70
high.
Gitcher self out here and wallow in it a bit. We can rent a plane this time
and go exploring.
Hadta do something........tried to fire Vamoose up last weekend, and found
that the fuel pumps were dead. No idea why. Last time I ran it, only to
find that persistent oil leak in the redrive, the pumps were brand new and
both worked fine with regulated pressure at 45 psi. Now, after sitting for
a few months, both of them show "open circuit" on an ohmeter. Called the
dealer, and they said the warranty is expired. I think it was just 30 days.
Called Walbro, the mfr., and the engineer I talked to said he's real
interested, and would love it if I'd send him one or both.........but won't
replace them. Soooo.........new pumps are ordered, and will be here next
week. Over $200.00 worth. Sigh. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: biglar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Kolbers, this evening is to not to pity Mr Bourne but to wallow
> in envy. 81 degrees and sunny. Lar, sho' do wisht I had
> that renta car and reservation at the motel cheapo tonight.
> If it weren't for burying myself in house reconstruction and
> swilling cheap beer I'da took the bridge. It's been overcast
> for something like 3 weeks straight here and SAD is more
> like suicidal. The Kolb is covered with 2 inches of sawdust
> from the saws.
> Durn, wher'd I put that scotch.
> -BB, still got all my fingers
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Folks:
Here is a list of tentative attendees at MV 2006:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202006/Monument%20Valley%202006%20Roster.docGot a few questions for you all:1-If your name is not on the roster and you plan on attending, pleaselet us know so we can put you on it.2-Jim Hefner: We need to know if you are bringing your Kolb trailer.If so, we will tent camp up the hill in the regular place. If not, wewill tent camp down in the tent camp area. Soon as we confirm this,then the other folks that are coming in with RVs will know where themajority of the tent campers and folks that fly in are going to be.We like to get as many of the attendees as possible camping as closetogether as possible. Part of the Kolb family thing at MV, ya know.3-John W, Gary H, and I are planning on stopping off at Moab again.We camped out on the tarmac for three days last year with Jim Hefner.We would like to know if anyone else is interested in camping with usfor a few days. This will give those that may be driving to Alvord achance!
to make some road miles while the "birdmen" do a little flyingand messing around
the Moab area.4-If Larry and Karen C drive down to MV, we need to know when
toexpect them back at Alvord so we can establish dates for thatflyin/campout.
We had a blast up there last year.Anything else we need to do prior to the
MV 2006 Unplanned/UnorganizedKolb Flyin, let us know.Take care,John h and John
WDO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
This is how the previous, jumbled up, messed up msg should have come
through. Don't know what happened to the first one. hehehe
john h
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http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/MV%202006/Monument%20Valley%202006%20Roster.doc
Got a few questions for you all:
1-If your name is not on the roster and you plan on attending,
pleaselet us know so we can put you on it.
2-Jim Hefner: We need to know if you are bringing your Kolb
trailer.If so, we will tent camp up the hill in the regular place. If
not, wewill tent camp down in the tent camp area. Soon as we confirm
this,then the other folks that are coming in with RVs will know where
themajority of the tent campers and folks that fly in are going to
be.We like to get as many of the attendees as possible camping as
closetogether as possible. Part of the Kolb family thing at MV, ya
know.
3-John W, Gary H, and I are planning on stopping off at Moab again.We
camped out on the tarmac for three days last year with Jim Hefner.We
would like to know if anyone else is interested in camping with usfor
a few days. This will give those that may be driving to Alvord
achance to make some road miles while the "birdmen" do a little
flyingand messing around the Moab area.
4-If Larry and Karen C drive down to MV, we need to know when toexpect
them back at Alvord so we can establish dates for thatflyin/campout.
We had a blast up there last year.Anything else we need to do prior to
the MV 2006 Unplanned/UnorganizedKolb Flyin, let us know.
Take care,
John h and John W
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: MV/Fourth Annual Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin 2006 |
(cont)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
1911.3 miles for me I will have to sit this one out you guys will be gone
before I get there but Have fun
Ellery
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Hang in there, Lar...
Electric fuel pumps have always left me in the skeptical mode... hope they
make it good to you.
Are you sure you wanna bet yer butt on electric pumps...?
Big cold snap - high 20's here in Brandon tonight... got the heating pads on
the cats on the pool deck tonight...
Waiting for the pictures you post ... that is beautiful country on the
Colorado...
Best Regards,
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: biglar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I just gotta rub it in a bit, ol' buddy. This is the weather I paid the
> dues for last summer, here in Furnace Springs. I just got back from 2
days
> on the Colorado River, where I ran the boat from Cottonwood Cove on Lake
> Mojave up to the base of Hoover Dam - 38 miles each way. Beautiful trip -
> after I get thru editing over 150 pictures, I'll send ya some. It was
sunny
> and fairly warm there, with quite cool evenings. I'd guess 35 low and 70
> high.
>
> Gitcher self out here and wallow in it a bit. We can rent a plane this
time
> and go exploring.
>
> Hadta do something........tried to fire Vamoose up last weekend, and found
> that the fuel pumps were dead. No idea why. Last time I ran it, only to
> find that persistent oil leak in the redrive, the pumps were brand new and
> both worked fine with regulated pressure at 45 psi. Now, after sitting
for
> a few months, both of them show "open circuit" on an ohmeter. Called the
> dealer, and they said the warranty is expired. I think it was just 30
days.
> Called Walbro, the mfr., and the engineer I talked to said he's real
> interested, and would love it if I'd send him one or both.........but
won't
> replace them. Soooo.........new pumps are ordered, and will be here next
> week. Over $200.00 worth. Sigh. Lar.
> Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: biglar
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> >
> > Kolbers, this evening is to not to pity Mr Bourne but to wallow
> > in envy. 81 degrees and sunny. Lar, sho' do wisht I had
> > that renta car and reservation at the motel cheapo tonight.
> > If it weren't for burying myself in house reconstruction and
> > swilling cheap beer I'da took the bridge. It's been overcast
> > for something like 3 weeks straight here and SAD is more
> > like suicidal. The Kolb is covered with 2 inches of sawdust
> > from the saws.
> > Durn, wher'd I put that scotch.
> > -BB, still got all my fingers
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
> 4-If Larry and Karen C drive down to MV, we need to know when toexpect
> them back at Alvord so we can establish dates for thatflyin/campout.
> We had a blast up there last year.Anything else we need to do prior to
> the MV 2006 Unplanned/UnorganizedKolb Flyin, let us know.
>
> Take care,
>
> John h and John W
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
John,
It shouldn't take us more than a day and half to get back. If you guys
are stopping at Moab we will have plenty of time to get back. Where is this
alternate camping spot. I think we will be tent camping this year rather
than buying all that diesel for the BAMH. Actually I didn't care for the
exaggerated rocking motion caused by the Motorhome that seemed to be
multiplied in the plane trailer.
Larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Where is this
| alternate camping spot. I think we will be tent camping this year
rather
| than buying all that diesel for the BAMH. | Larry
Hi Larry:
Sounds good.
There is a designated tent camping area in the RV park down the hill
(inside the RV Park) at the far end. Probably the east or SE end.
If Jim Hefner brings his Kolb trailer, we will camp up across the road
at the entrance from the bath house and camp store.
I believe the year you all were there we tented down in the normal
tent camping area.
Does that make sense??? I hope so..............
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Looking for a Slingshot cage, new, used, re-pairable will consider anything usable.
wade fs2 #1030
1-1/2 Slingshots
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Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You said it right, Ray. It's easy to master - with a little help - and very
satisfying when done. There are many fillers to use for different purposes,
and each has its' place. System Three resins in WA state has excellent
articles and video tapes available, too, as does West System Epoxies in (I
think) MI. I dealt with System 3 extensively when working on boats in
WA, and found them to be very helpful. Good Folks.
I'm also *quite* sure there are epoxy formulations to handle almost any
fuels and additives you might find anywhere. Once again, research is the
key. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gas Tanks larger than 5 gallons
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Glass.
> I have been wanting to build a new tank for FF#007 so If I research the
> material I will post it. If anyone else knows, Lend a hand. >>>>>>
> Steve
> FF#007
>
>
> An addition to my earlier post. If you build a glass "structure," when
> ordering cloth, foam and epoxy, get small amounts of glass beads and flox.
> This material is mixed with the epoxy for special points and applications.
> Easy to use but one probably should read up on building glass structures
> or get a friend to give you a quick course. I believe Aircraft Spruce has
> for sale easy to read booklets on the subject. Really easy to master and
> satisfying when the piece is finished.
>
> UltraStar ... Tenn
> Do not archive
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
>
>
>
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