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1. 04:11 AM - EIS systems sender (Kirk Smith)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: MV (pat ladd)
3. 05:10 AM - Re: fuel pump (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 05:35 AM - Re: fuel pump (N27SB@aol.com)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: fuel pump (bryan green)
6. 08:07 AM - Re: kolb gps (jerb)
7. 08:54 AM - Re: kolb gps (lucien stavenhagen)
8. 09:10 AM - Re: kolb gps (Vic Peters)
9. 09:39 AM - Re: kolb gps (WillUribe@aol.com)
10. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: MV 2006 (JIM HEFNER)
11. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: Re: MV 2006 (roger lee)
12. 01:13 PM - Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
13. 01:27 PM - Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
14. 02:26 PM - Re: kolb gps (Vic Peters)
15. 02:34 PM - Re: kolb gps (John Jung)
16. 02:36 PM - Re: kolb gps (lucien stavenhagen)
17. 04:03 PM - Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
18. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
19. 04:38 PM - Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
20. 04:40 PM - Re: kolb gps (Jack B. Hart)
21. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: kolb gps (flht99reh)
22. 05:57 PM - Re: kolb gps (Michael Bigelow)
23. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: kolb gps (John Jung)
24. 06:10 PM - Re: kolb gps (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
25. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Re: kolb gps (John Hauck)
26. 06:15 PM - Re: kolb gps (lucien stavenhagen)
27. 07:03 PM - Re: kolb gps (Larry Cottrell)
28. 07:08 PM - All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! (Matt Dralle)
29. 08:42 PM - Introducions in the BBS format (Topher)
30. 09:18 PM - Map data...... (Jim Baker)
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| Subject: | EIS systems sender |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> I'm not really sure. Does an EIS monitoring system change analog at the
> sender or at the panel?
> Vic
Not familiar with EIS systems, but typically the conversion from analog to
digital is done in the panel. If there are only a couple of wires going from
sender to panel you can be assured the conversion is done in the panel. If
the conversion is done in the sender, there needs to be first of all two
wires just for the power to the conversion circuits in the sender. Then
depending on the sender, two or more wires for the return signal to the
panel, to indicate temp, position, velocity, whatever is being detected.
Conversion circuits in senders, subjects the circuits to more destructive forces
than if the conversion circuits are in the panel.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pat, take a look on my website,>>
Hi Lar,
impressive lot of pics and a nicely connected commentary. What a lot of
talent there is among the Kolbers on the list.
Pity that I had not discovered the list, and you, when I came through Palm
Springs last year. I would have enjoyed a beer or two in your company. In
the event I had to make do with some good food and good jazz.
The stuff on MV is very enlightening. I have looked at the Goulding website
as well and it looks a great place to stay, and fly.
At the moment I am pretty much commited to getting a new house into livable
condition. As I have sold my exisiting place and the new owner has arranged
to move in on March 13th, I am running out of time.
If I have any money left by the time I move house I reckon I shall be due
for a holiday. Wendy definitely will. I only have the responsibility of
knocking down walls, replacing windows and doors but she as the wallpaper
and curtains stuff to do. Much more demanding.
MV looks very tempting but we have some friends from Florida planning to
come over and they want us to accompany them to Poland looking up their
roots. It looks as thouigh the times may clash. We shall see.
No Permission to test fly the Extra has arrived yet. I really thought it
might be here by today.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To All,
I researched this subject last year. FF#447 was purchased from Duane d Plane
with the 2 port pump installed. It had one port plugged. The problem was that
with the 2port pump mounted in the standard position the output port to the
carb is close to the root end of the aileron torque tube during wing fold. On
two occasions this created a pin hole in the fuel line to the carb. I caught
the leak during pre flight both times. I replaced the pump with a single port
and no longer have a problem.
The only negative that I heard was that the single port did not have as good
of seals as the 2 port but I did not confirm that. It could have been a case
of comparing old single port parts to new duel port parts. Travis at TNK told
me that they supply the 2 port because that is what comes with the engine. I
suspect that Rotas went to a 2 port on everything to shorten their part list.
If you are going to use the 2port pump on a Firefly I would suggest that you
make an aluminum plate that moves the pump enough so there is no conflict with
the wing fold operation.
BTW the pin hole is caused when the torque tube hits the end of the output
nipple. This is a very hard leak to spot and it only leaks when there is
pressure on the system.
Steve B
FF #007
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Thanks for the info Steve. I have received replies form several people
running these on 447 with a tee so this is the way I'll go. I will be using
it on my original Firestar, so a bracket will definitely be fabricated for a
good location. Do not archive
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
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From: <N27SB@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel pump
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
> To All,
> I researched this subject last year. FF#447 was purchased from Duane d
> Plane
> with the 2 port pump installed. It had one port plugged. The problem was
> that
> with the 2port pump mounted in the standard position the output port to
> the
> carb is close to the root end of the aileron torque tube during wing fold.
> On
> two occasions this created a pin hole in the fuel line to the carb. I
> caught
> the leak during pre flight both times. I replaced the pump with a single
> port
> and no longer have a problem.
> The only negative that I heard was that the single port did not have as
> good
> of seals as the 2 port but I did not confirm that. It could have been a
> case
> of comparing old single port parts to new duel port parts. Travis at TNK
> told
> me that they supply the 2 port because that is what comes with the engine.
> I
> suspect that Rotas went to a 2 port on everything to shorten their part
> list.
> If you are going to use the 2port pump on a Firefly I would suggest that
> you
> make an aluminum plate that moves the pump enough so there is no conflict
> with
> the wing fold operation.
> BTW the pin hole is caused when the torque tube hits the end of the output
> nipple. This is a very hard leak to spot and it only leaks when there is
> pressure on the system.
>
> Steve B
> FF #007
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
EIS uses raw analog signals right from the sender - the EIS does the
conversion.
I sit here wondering why you would want to go through all the trouble
trying to interface a PC into your panel. Blue screens are not good
and Winders is still not rock solid. There are other instruments
that would be better - see Grand Rapids Technologies other
products. There is also another company producing a glass cockpit at
moderate cost. For GPS function why not buy a good GPS that can be
used for roads and aviation use. Just my thoughts.
jerb
At 10:49 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
>
>Robert or anyone else'
> I know you can get GPS software that allows you to use a palm pilot or
>even better a laptop for a moving map. Is there also any way to interface
>engine sending units?
>
>
>I'm not really sure. Does an EIS monitoring system change analog at the
>sender or at the panel?
>Vic do not archive
>
>
>Vic Peters
>-----------
>
>
>DeLORME makes a gps that plugs into a serial port on a lap top or
>palm...the one I have has the name Earthmate Hyperformance gps receiver..
>and will work on DeLORME mapping software... there are probably others.
>
>It seems that some of the newer palms have a gps built in.
>
>I have used the garmin pilot lll and it worked very well.. But I have
>been spoiled with the larger screen on the 196, it works wonders in the
>air,,, and with the street mapping software it works wonders in the car..
>Coming through the spaghetti bowl in Portland my wife turned to me and said
>that the thing just paid for itself. I have not yet bought the
>navitagable waters maps.. however color on the 296 may be nice...
>
>Boyd
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>Ps I think the A to D converter is in the panel box.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>EIS uses raw analog signals right from the sender - the EIS does the
>conversion.
>I sit here wondering why you would want to go through all the trouble
>trying to interface a PC into your panel. Blue screens are not good
>and Winders is still not rock solid. There are other instruments
>that would be better - see Grand Rapids Technologies other
>products. There is also another company producing a glass cockpit at
>moderate cost. For GPS function why not buy a good GPS that can be
>used for roads and aviation use. Just my thoughts.
>jerb
I tend to agree.... GPS's are bad enough in terms of reliability, so not
sure what would be gained by increasing the chances of failure, oh, 10
orders of magnitude by using a palm pilot or worse a Windwoes laptop in the
airplane....
sorry, couldn't resist ;).
And I shouldn't whine about GPS's, the current crop of them are actually
really good reliable devices. I have had a couple of older ones and they've
always quit or gave me some kind of problem at very inconvenient times.s....
The garmins are really good, I think, especially the newer ones.
But no way no how would I use anything running Windwoes or PalmOS or
anything like that as even a supplemental form of navigation ;)... JMO....
LS
N646F
>At 10:49 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
> >
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
> >
> >Robert or anyone else'
> > I know you can get GPS software that allows you to use a palm pilot
>or
> >even better a laptop for a moving map. Is there also any way to interface
> >engine sending units?
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm not really sure. Does an EIS monitoring system change analog at the
> >sender or at the panel?
> >Vic do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Vic Peters
> >-----------
> >
> >
> >DeLORME makes a gps that plugs into a serial port on a lap top or
> >palm...the one I have has the name Earthmate Hyperformance gps
>receiver..
> >and will work on DeLORME mapping software... there are probably others.
> >
> >It seems that some of the newer palms have a gps built in.
> >
> >I have used the garmin pilot lll and it worked very well.. But I have
> >been spoiled with the larger screen on the 196, it works wonders in the
> >air,,, and with the street mapping software it works wonders in the car..
> >Coming through the spaghetti bowl in Portland my wife turned to me and
>said
> >that the thing just paid for itself. I have not yet bought the
> >navitagable waters maps.. however color on the 296 may be nice...
> >
> >Boyd
> >
> >Do not archive
> >
> >
> >Ps I think the A to D converter is in the panel box.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Thanks for all that replied,
Just thought a laptop would be a good backup and easy for an old fart to
see.
I was going to ask what the heck is a winder is. Winders Home ain't bad, no
more blue screen for me. I'm less rock solid myself!
Vic Peters
MK3X
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Vic,
I have a Navman GPS for my laptop. The majority of the time it lags behind
where I'm actually driving and sometimes it freezes up the laptop to the
point I have to re-boot. This is very distracting when I'm driving so I no
longer use it.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
Restoring a PA-22-108 N4551Z
_http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane_ (_http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane_
(http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane) )
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Thanks for all that replied,
Just thought a laptop would be a good backup and easy for an old fart to
see.
I was going to ask what the heck is a winder is. Winders Home ain't bad, no
more blue screen for me. I'm less rock solid myself!
Vic Peters
MK3X
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JIM HEFNER" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: roger lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com<mailto:ssadiver1@yahoo.com?subjectRe: Re: MV 2006&replyto200601090204.k0924x4g018732@mail.matronics.com>>
Hi Jim,
I've been flying the wings off with all this 70-75 degree weather this winter.
I just flew today south to the Santa Rita Mnts., over to Vail, Az and back to
Ryan airfield. Wed. I'm going to fly to Nogales, then to Benson and back to
Ryan.
Do you have a way to contact these two gentlemen?
Roger Lee
Roger, I'll send you my friend's email address off list. He has Ken's phone number
so you guys can sync up your flight plans.
Glad to hear you have been flying a bunch! Yes this weather has been wonderful!
I was planning to fly this morning but an forecasted, strong, gusty North wind
came up around 8:00am, as I was leaving to go to the airport, so I cancelled.
Saturday was pretty windy around here too so I didn't fly then. Hope to
get some flying in later in the week and weekend before I leave. Maybe we can
get a little flying in after I get back from China, in April, before MV.
Take care,
Jim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: roger lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi Jim,
Looking forward to flying together. Just give me a call, 520-574-1080.
Roger Lee
JIM HEFNER <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JIM HEFNER"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: roger lee >
Hi Jim,
I've been flying the wings off with all this 70-75 degree weather this winter.
I just flew today south to the Santa Rita Mnts., over to Vail, Az and back to
Ryan airfield. Wed. I'm going to fly to Nogales, then to Benson and back to
Ryan.
Do you have a way to contact these two gentlemen?
Roger Lee
Roger, I'll send you my friend's email address off list. He has Ken's phone number
so you guys can sync up your flight plans.
Glad to hear you have been flying a bunch! Yes this weather has been wonderful!
I was planning to fly this morning but an forecasted, strong, gusty North wind
came up around 8:00am, as I was leaving to go to the airport, so I cancelled.
Saturday was pretty windy around here too so I didn't fly then. Hope to get
some flying in later in the week and weekend before I leave. Maybe we can get
a little flying in after I get back from China, in April, before MV.
Take care,
Jim
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Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|I have had a couple of older ones and they've
| always quit or gave me some kind of problem at very inconvenient
times.s....
|
| The garmins are really good, I think, especially the newer ones.
|
LS/All:
What seems to be wrong with the reliability of GPS?
What GPS units have you used and what year were they manufactured?
What did you find wrong with the older Garmin units?
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Just thought a laptop would be a good backup and easy for an old
fart to
| see.
|
|
| Vic Peters
Vic/Gang:
What are you going to do with a lap top in a Kolb?
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Hey John,
Use it as the GPS display. You can buy a non display Gps unit for about 100
bucks
Vic
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
I have used 4 different Garmins over the past 10 or so years and never
had a problem. My current one hardly uses batteries, and even if I
would run out of batteries, I can plug it in and run it off the
engine's battery.
I don't have room in my Kolb for a laptop, but if I did, I might carry
one for cross countries. Here is the reason: The government now sells
digital sectionals on DVD's. The western United States costs about $13
and last spring I used it to plan my trip to MV. I have a $30 program
on my computer that, with the Garmin plugged in, will show my position
on the sectionals. My Garmin does not have an aviation database. So,
for just the cost of the digital sectionals, I have most of what
aviation GPS's provide on a much larger screen. And I save hundreds of
dollars by not buying an aviation GPS and keeping it updated.
John Jung
Firstar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>LS/All:
>
>What seems to be wrong with the reliability of GPS?
>
>What GPS units have you used and what year were they manufactured?
>
>What did you find wrong with the older Garmin units?
They're fairly reliable, just not as reliable as a chart and the ground
;)....
But seriously, I've been through 2, but they were older low-end Garmin
models. The first one was one of the first to get the 12 channel Rockwell
recievers in it, and the second was an etrex.
The first one would just shut off randomly, but would always come back on by
pressing the power button. My eTrex quit working completely and has never
come back on...
I don't remember when the first one was made, but the eTrex is about 3 years
old I think...
LS
N646F
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>john h
>MKIII
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Use it as the GPS display. You can buy a non display Gps unit for
about 100
| bucks
|
| Vic
Hi Vic/Gang:
Yep.. Kinda figured that. What I was thinking about was the amount
of room required for a lap top in a Kolb aircraft. I find smaller is
usually better.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| digital sectionals on DVD's.
|
| John Jung
John J/All:
Can you provide us with a url to get info and order "sectional DVD"?
Please!
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
ground
| ;)....
|
| LS
LS/All:
Sounds like an operator problem to me.
Amazing! You are the only aviator I have heard make a statement that
GPS is unreliable.
Been flying with GPS since 1993. Have had excellent results. Would
not leave home without it.
I also understand the importance of not relying on a GPS 100%, and I
can still fly with a sectional and mag compass. Would you believe
that is how I found my way around Vietnam, in an AH-1G, with map and
compass. Wish we had had GPS back then. Could have saved a lot more
lives.
I have gone through the Garmin 55AVD, 95XL, and am now flying with the
196, a wonderful instrument. Provides a lot of help when an aviator
needs it. Would still be flying with the 55AVD, but Garmin stops
supporting updates for the older instruments. The 196 is a real
sweetheart though. Got a lot more info and capability than my older
models.
GPS is particularly important in Alaska, where magnetic deviation is
as much as 32 degrees, maybe 34 degrees. I'm guessing because I do
not have a Barrow Sectional handy.
Sorry you had such poor results with your GPS.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 10:36 PM 1/9/06 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
>They're fairly reliable, just not as reliable as a chart and the ground
>;)....
Lucien,
It is difficult to use a sectional chart and a calculator in a FireFly. I
used a gps to ferry the FireFly from Missouri to Indiana. Due to an adverse
wind, I could not make 60 mile hops and I had to divert two times to
alternate airports. Just by pushing one button, I had several choices or
alternate airports. Then by pressing another button, I could select the
desired airport and the GPS told me how long it would take to get there plus
much more info than a chart and calculator would have.
I have used a Garmin 90 for about ten years. I dropped it on the concrete
several years ago and popped the lcd display off. I carefully picked it up
and pressed it back in place. It worked well up to about two months ago. I
started loosing lines in the display. Purchased another Garmin.
I would not fly a cross country without a gps. You never know when you are
going to get disoriented. After flying from Perryville Municipal to my EAA
Chapter meetings for several years, I had it happen to me. I was flying
south and got busy in the cockpit. When I returned to looking out over the
nose of the FireFly, I did not recognize anything. I thought I was flying
south, but when I checked the compass, I found I was flying east. Turned 90
degrees and I recognized very thing again.
Since I have moved to Indiana, it happened again. I am not used to flying
over snow covered terrain. The last flight of 2005, I put on my LLBean cold
weather gear and went for a spin late in the afternoon. I flew from
Winchester to Union City and everything looked quit normal. Then I wandered
around a little looking at the edges of Union City. Next I turned back
toward the west. The sun was low in the west and the glare off the snow was
unbelievable. Normally, I could see the airport from where I was, but I
could not pick it out. So I followed the railroad tracks and 32 back toward
Winchester and located the airport.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
John,
Are you using the Bata version of the Garmin nRoute?
I have been using this one frequently on ground trips with laptop and use
the built-in through my Garmin supported but no longer sold emap. The rubber
banding on the e-map sucks for ground turn to turn routing but is perfect
for air. I also have added the Mapsource program with U.S. Roads and
Recreation on it. In using the MApsource with it's continued updating from
Garmin. I now can plot on screen any trip I've taken, any point in the trip,
any attitude any Lat/Lon, any speed. This is one of the neatest devices I
have ever owned and is all the better in the air. It also has all the
airports located on it at no additional cost.
Do not archive
Ralph "the other Ralph" Hoover
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jung
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: kolb gps
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
I have used 4 different Garmins over the past 10 or so years and never
had a problem. My current one hardly uses batteries, and even if I
would run out of batteries, I can plug it in and run it off the
engine's battery.
I don't have room in my Kolb for a laptop, but if I did, I might carry
one for cross countries. Here is the reason: The government now sells
digital sectionals on DVD's. The western United States costs about $13
and last spring I used it to plan my trip to MV. I have a $30 program
on my computer that, with the Garmin plugged in, will show my position
on the sectionals. My Garmin does not have an aviation database. So,
for just the cost of the digital sectionals, I have most of what
aviation GPS's provide on a much larger screen. And I save hundreds of
dollars by not buying an aviation GPS and keeping it updated.
John Jung
Firstar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Bigelow" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
In a modern airliner, GPS is the primary cross country navigation. In the
airplane I fly it is backed up by VOR, and Inertial navigation, but the GPS
is primary. When the aircraft senses an error between the systems, it tells
us, and in thousands of hours over almost 10 years, there have been only a
couple times that the GPS would not work. It is one of the most reliable
systems on the plane.
When someone posts that using GPS has been unrealiable, that tells me that
it is either operator error, or a very bad installation... Either of which
can be fixed :)
Michael A. Bigelow
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear, you did not go as fast as you could have...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
John H and Group,
>Can you provide us with a url to get info and order "sectional DVD"?
Please!
I believe this is the place, but they are out of stock right now:
http://naco.faa.gov/ecomp/Catalog.aspx?a=AERO+NOS+DIGITAL+DRC
I got mine last year and I had to go through a dealer.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
I hope you dont crash when your laptop does just a work of thought about how
unreliabale computers really are
Ellery
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| John Jung
John J/Gang:
Could you provide dealers that handle the Digital Raster Charts,
please.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien stavenhagen" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>LS/All:
>
>Sounds like an operator problem to me.
Ah flattery will get you nowhere......
>Sorry you had such poor results with your GPS.
It's bizarre in my case, since I know garmin is one of the best products
around, and none of the locals I know of ever had a failure rate like
mine... and of course I used various IFR gps's in a couple of different
planes when I was taking my instrument training and they always worked
fine....
Must be personal radiation or something like that.....
I have lusted after a 195 for years now, although once I saw a friend of
mine's 295 I wanted one of those...
I really would like a 196, though....
LS
N646F
>john h
>MKIII
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
> I have lusted after a 195 for years now, although once I saw a friend of
> mine's 295 I wanted one of those...
>
> I really would like a 196, though....
>
> LS
> N646F
I just bought a 196 on ebay and paid 660.00 for a used 196. ( bought in June
05) There seemed to be a couple of people that decided that they had to have
one, apparently I got in the middle of that. Under the right circumstances
you can pick one up for somewhere around 550.00. There are a lot of guys
updating to the 296 and 396 so the 196's are becoming a glut on the market.
That makes three GPS's that I have owned and have a lot of miles both in the
air and on the ground. Never had a problem that wasn't caused by stupidity.
do not archive
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Topher" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Hi Everybody,
Thought I would a start an intro topic for the new BBS/Forum format.
Hopefully it makes it even easier for us to inform, educate and entertain each
other as we always have!
Probably save some hard drive space at servers across the country too!
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Topher
Yellow Aero SSTOL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2374#2374
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
OK...I admit it...one of my degrees is in cartography. So usually I
know where to get map data. If you want to play around with some
really BIG files of sectionals that aren't quite up to date...
http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/sectionals/
These are georeferenced TIF files so you'll need both the .TIF and
.TFW (world file...contains the map reference data) to make these
work. There are lots of free viewers around...
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
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