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1. 03:19 AM - Re: Re: Small video of kolb landing in winter ... (snuffy@usol.com)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: Mode C Veil Question (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (Richard Pike)
4. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: DC-9 (russ kinne)
5. 06:07 AM - Choices we make and the downside to our sport (John Jung)
6. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (bryan green)
7. 06:49 AM - Re: Mode C Veil Question (Mike Pierzina)
8. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORSRe: VORTEX GENERATORS (Thom Riddle)
9. 07:23 AM - Mode C vieil question (flykolb)
10. 07:53 AM - Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (Larry Bourne)
11. 08:25 AM - Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (George E. Thompson)
12. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Stall speed / GPS (Ralph)
13. 08:49 AM - Re: Mode C vieil question (Mike Pierzina)
14. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: Mode C vieil question (bryan green)
15. 09:19 AM - Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
16. 09:21 AM - Re: DC-9 (JetPilot)
17. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (kfackler)
18. 09:34 AM - Re: Kolb Travels (JetPilot)
19. 09:40 AM - Re: Mode C vieil question (Mike Pierzina)
20. 09:46 AM - Re: Kolb Travels (Mike Schnabel)
21. 09:48 AM - helicopter (ray anderson)
22. 10:00 AM - Re: nuts n bolts (David Paule)
23. 10:09 AM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
24. 10:11 AM - Re: helicopter (Mike Schnabel)
25. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
26. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (Richard Pike)
27. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: DC-9 (Ed Chmielewski)
28. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (kfackler)
29. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Mode C vieil question (Charlie England)
30. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (John Hauck)
31. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (Ed Chmielewski)
32. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (bryan green)
33. 11:28 AM - Re: Mode C Veil Question (Mike Pierzina)
34. 12:14 PM - Re: Mode C vieil question (Mike Pierzina)
35. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: Stall speed / GPS (pat ladd)
36. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Stall speed / GPS (pat ladd)
37. 12:45 PM - Floats for the Mark III (Diego Ospina)
38. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (kfackler)
39. 01:00 PM - Re: Small video of kolb landing in winter ... (pat ladd)
40. 01:07 PM - Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (JetPilot)
41. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (pat ladd)
42. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (pat ladd)
43. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: DC-9 (pat ladd)
44. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Travels (Mike Schnabel)
45. 01:33 PM - Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (JetPilot)
46. 01:34 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (pat ladd)
47. 01:42 PM - Re: Floats for the Mark III (JetPilot)
48. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: Floats for the Mark III (Diego Ospina)
49. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (Richard Pike)
50. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Mode C veil question (kfackler)
51. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: DC-9 (Ed Chmielewski)
52. 03:42 PM - Re: Mode C Veil Question (Kirk Smith)
53. 04:26 PM - Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (N27SB@aol.com)
54. 05:11 PM - transponder cert (b young)
55. 05:11 PM - mode c vail (b young)
56. 06:00 PM - Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (Mark)
57. 06:30 PM - Re: transponder cert (Richard Pike)
58. 06:57 PM - Re: mode c vail (Roger Lee)
59. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Travels (Larry Bourne)
60. 07:15 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
61. 07:28 PM - Fellow aviator makes his final flight (kfackler)
62. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport (Larry Bourne)
63. 07:31 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
64. 07:48 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Jung)
65. 07:57 PM - Re: transponder cert (Jim Baker)
66. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Travels (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
67. 08:04 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
68. 08:12 PM - Re: Kolb Travels (John Hauck)
69. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Travels (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Small video of kolb landing in winter ... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
By the way there is a (Challenger) flyin in Montebello, Qc, Canada
> this comming 28th and 29 th of january :
>
>
>
> Usually many UL planes show up and all are welcome .... Any Kolber
interested ... I
should go on the Saturday (weather permitting) or Sunday .
Noel,
Is camping permitted at your strip?
Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C Veil Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 1/14/2006 8:47:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jdmurr@juno.com writes:
What are the regulations for ultralights without transponders regarding
being inside the 30mn circle but not in Class B airspace? Thanks!
John
This is a tricky one, I researched this one last year because I operate in
the Orlando, FL veil. Clearly my Firefly is exempt because I have no elec
syst. The reg says "Certified Electrical System" Antiques with no starter are
considered exempt by Local FAA here. The gray area is in the case of a
homebuilt with a non certified engine. My local FAA source(he used to do my engine
inspections) told me that technically a non certified engine and electrical
system is exempt but he did not suggest testing the theory. I ran a mode c on
my EZ.
BTW you can thank Ex Beauty Queen Ms Dole for this requirement.
Steve B
FF
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Yeah, it murmurs all right, but it's not the VG's, it's the Ivo.
It's going warpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarp.
I'm not sure what that means, so I mostly just ignore it.
Bill's FF? It's the 447. It's going moneymoneymoneymoneymoney.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
><snip>
>
>I am interested in the murmur that was reported coming from Bill's FF on downwind.
Does your MKIII murmur? Also like to know what kind of murmur it is.
Really got my imagination going now.
>
>Take care friend,
>
>john h
>
>--------
>John Hauck
>MKIII/912ULS
>hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4067#4067
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Ed, all
Most certainly not an 'urban legend' -- it did happen. Where & what
was the jammed elevator you found ? Have you any details?
The crash I remember was at LGA, may have been Eastern.
There was also a crash in Boston about the same time? caused by a
flock of starlings being ingested -- doubt this would be a hazard for
Kolbs! -- messy tho.
Do we still need -- do not archive?
Russ Kinne
On Jan 14, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski"
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi John/All,
>
> That was a great link, they've improved it since I was
> there last.
> I couldn't find it either, I thought it was a 707 or DC-8
> (non-T-tail aircraft). Only thing listed due to 'jammed elevator'
> was a
> DC-7C in 1962. Oh well, may be an urban legend?
> I did find the one I earlier referenced, it was a NW Orient
> 727
> crash in NY due to lack of pitot heat. Airspeed indicator turned
> into an
> altimeter; the more the flight crew raised the nose, the higher the
> airspeed
> rose. They kept chasing the airspeed until it stalled. Crew of 3
> were
> lost.
> A very interesting one was a Yugoslav DC-9 that suffered a
> bombing
> and broke up in flight on 26 Jan. 1972. 27 of the 28 on board were
> lost. A
> flight attendant survived the ride from FL330 in the tail section.
> To keep it Kolbish, my MkII is cold here in Michigan.
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:41 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: DC-9
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>
>> Anybody find the particular "stone in the elevator" accident in
>> the URL
>> Bro Jim provided??? He couldn't find it and I haven't had a
>> chance to
>> scan all of them, yet..........
>>
>> --------
>> John Hauck
>> MKIII/912ULS
>> hauck's holler, alabama
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4000#4000
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| Subject: | Choices we make and the downside to our sport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
First, I'll repeat a couple of my upside opinions for a little balance:
An airplane is the greatest toy in the world. Kolbs are fantastic
airplanes. Having friends to share the experience with is even better.
Warning; Stop reading now, if you can't handle the downside.
This is about an accident that I witnessed yesterday and the choices
that were made leading up to it.
Saturday morning, Chuck and I, in our Firestars, flew 80 miles west
over the Arizona dessert, to a Fly-in at Bouse. As soon as I got out of
my plane, the airplane talk started, and I answered questions about
Kolbs and Firestars. While talking, three planes took off. The first
two had very short takeoff runs, helped by about a 10 mph wind down the
runway. The third plane took much longer. It was a Quicksilver Sprint
II, with two on board.
Maybe 5 minutes later, I looked up to see the Sprint quietly descending
a few hundred yards from the runway. It looked like a controlled,
although steep decent. The plane went out of sight just before
touchdown and I saw a flash of color, which made me think that it might
have bounced. Many others also watched and headed over that way, so
they had plenty of help. I decided to eat breakfast. Before, I could
finish, someone came back to call for an ambulance, and to get some
saws and other tools. I walked over to see what was going on. It was
hard to image that it was really serious, because Quicksilvers fly
slow, they were over a mostly open area, and they appeared to be under
control to the ground.
The plane had impacted the base of one of the few trees in the area.
It's like, if you searched the area for the absolute worse place to
land, that was it.
I'm going to skip a lot of details now, except to say that it was like
watching a TV show about paramedics and rescue, except that it was not
acting and I was right there. The passenger was transported by
ambulance to a local hospital and the pilot was transported 100 miles
by helicopter to Phoenix.
Now about choices:
Remember that I said the Quicksilver had a long takeoff run? It was
powered by a 503 and the passenger looked like he weighed maybe 250
pounds. The pilot had made the decision that he wasn't too heavy.
When the engine quit, the plane was 200 feet or less from the ground,
over an area of 10 foot hills, but mostly open. The pilot had made the
choice to fly low over that terrain.
Neither wore a helmet (that I could see). Another choice made.
How could he fail to avoid a tree? I'm not so sure that the pilot could
give a good answer to this question. But that won't stop me from giving
my opinion. One of my two engine outs was in a Quicksilver from 100
feet. Here is what I learned. It happens so fast that it is difficult
to project where you will land. In my case, I landed way short of where
I though I would. I think that the pilot was looking beyond the tree,
not having enough time to realize how fast he was sinking. My guess is
that he had less than 20 seconds from when the engine quit until
impact, maybe only 15 seconds.
The choices that we make every time we fly can make a difference. I
sometimes fly low, although I usually resist the temptation. I do wear
a helmet every time I fly. I do not carry a passenger very often, and
when I do, I try to make all the best choices.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Morning John h and all
If you are serious about trying VG's John let me know how many you need
and I will cut and bend you some (Brother Shack's design ). It may take a
couple of week before you get them.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Brother Richard: I appreciate your offer. After reading Brother Bill
> Tuton's grand post on vortex generators, I ran right out in the cold and
> dark of night to rip the valley aluminum off the roof. Luckily, before I
> actually did any ripping, I realized I still have some left from the last
> time I built a gap seal for my FS. I never throw away anything.
>
> One of these days, when I muster up the courage to stick those sticky
> things all over my wings, and it gets dark enough so no one can see what I
> am doing, I may try VG's. Not worried about getting the wash rag snagged
> on them during washing, because that doesn't occur but about one a year.
>
> I am interested in the murmur that was reported coming from Bill's FF on
> downwind. Does your MKIII murmur? Also like to know what kind of murmur
> it is. Really got my imagination going now.
>
> Take care friend,
>
> john h
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4067#4067
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C Veil Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I had asked my instructor about this before....Because there are Ultralight symbols
under the Class B area....and I knew these Guys didn't have Transponders.....
He said because they didn't have Elec Start.....
But he probly meant to say they didn't have an Elec System....
So, If you have Elec Start.....But you start it with the "Pull Rope" can you go
ahead and fly there....He he he
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN w/ GPL on FSII
And Narco 155 /850 Alt encoder [Wink]
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORSRe: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I no longer have my early Firestar but did install VGs for a while.
They reduced the stall speed appreciably but most certainly made the
stall a sharp break vs. soft and slow w/o the VGs. Since they did
nothing for my normal landing speed and flying under full control at 40
mph was slow enough for me, I removed them. That was my experience.
I tried the same VGs on my Titan Tornado with similar results. Again,
since it did not reduce my landing speed (tail would bang long before
stall AOA), I removed them from the Tornado too.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@wowway.com>
When I was flying my Mark III under the Class B of Charlotte, NC I went to the
local FSDO, explained about my electrical system (electric start) and about my
plane and was told I did not need a transponder as long as I stayed under, not
in, the Class B airspace. Just like Cubs and the like.
Jim
Mark III
Now in Michigan (BRRRR!)
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| Subject: | Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
And now there's gonna be a lot of shoulda, coulda, woulda, over that'n.
It'd be interesting to talk to the pilot to hear what he says. Too bad it
happened. Lar. Do not Archive.
Still looking over the new format........... :-)
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Choices we make and the downside to our sport
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> First, I'll repeat a couple of my upside opinions for a little balance:
>
> An airplane is the greatest toy in the world. Kolbs are fantastic
> airplanes. Having friends to share the experience with is even better.
>
> Warning; Stop reading now, if you can't handle the downside.
>
> This is about an accident that I witnessed yesterday and the choices
> that were made leading up to it.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I have always heard that when the fan stops on a Quicksilver, look strait
down because that's where you are going to land.
Az Bald Eagle
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Choices we make and the downside to our sport
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Group,
>
> First, I'll repeat a couple of my upside opinions for a little balance:
>
> An airplane is the greatest toy in the world. Kolbs are fantastic
> airplanes. Having friends to share the experience with is even better.
>
> Warning; Stop reading now, if you can't handle the downside.
>
> This is about an accident that I witnessed yesterday and the choices
> that were made leading up to it.
>
> Saturday morning, Chuck and I, in our Firestars, flew 80 miles west
> over the Arizona dessert, to a Fly-in at Bouse. As soon as I got out of
> my plane, the airplane talk started, and I answered questions about
> Kolbs and Firestars. While talking, three planes took off. The first
> two had very short takeoff runs, helped by about a 10 mph wind down the
> runway. The third plane took much longer. It was a Quicksilver Sprint
> II, with two on board.
>
> Maybe 5 minutes later, I looked up to see the Sprint quietly descending
> a few hundred yards from the runway. It looked like a controlled,
> although steep decent. The plane went out of sight just before
> touchdown and I saw a flash of color, which made me think that it might
> have bounced. Many others also watched and headed over that way, so
> they had plenty of help. I decided to eat breakfast. Before, I could
> finish, someone came back to call for an ambulance, and to get some
> saws and other tools. I walked over to see what was going on. It was
> hard to image that it was really serious, because Quicksilvers fly
> slow, they were over a mostly open area, and they appeared to be under
> control to the ground.
>
> The plane had impacted the base of one of the few trees in the area.
> It's like, if you searched the area for the absolute worse place to
> land, that was it.
>
> I'm going to skip a lot of details now, except to say that it was like
> watching a TV show about paramedics and rescue, except that it was not
> acting and I was right there. The passenger was transported by
> ambulance to a local hospital and the pilot was transported 100 miles
> by helicopter to Phoenix.
>
> Now about choices:
>
> Remember that I said the Quicksilver had a long takeoff run? It was
> powered by a 503 and the passenger looked like he weighed maybe 250
> pounds. The pilot had made the decision that he wasn't too heavy.
>
> When the engine quit, the plane was 200 feet or less from the ground,
> over an area of 10 foot hills, but mostly open. The pilot had made the
> choice to fly low over that terrain.
>
> Neither wore a helmet (that I could see). Another choice made.
>
> How could he fail to avoid a tree? I'm not so sure that the pilot could
> give a good answer to this question. But that won't stop me from giving
> my opinion. One of my two engine outs was in a Quicksilver from 100
> feet. Here is what I learned. It happens so fast that it is difficult
> to project where you will land. In my case, I landed way short of where
> I though I would. I think that the pilot was looking beyond the tree,
> not having enough time to realize how fast he was sinking. My guess is
> that he had less than 20 seconds from when the engine quit until
> impact, maybe only 15 seconds.
>
> The choices that we make every time we fly can make a difference. I
> sometimes fly low, although I usually resist the temptation. I do wear
> a helmet every time I fly. I do not carry a passenger very often, and
> when I do, I try to make all the best choices.
>
>
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stall speed / GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Here in Minnesota we fly our Firestars inches above the frozen lakes. We fly for
miles in ground effect only occasionally looking at the airspeed indicator.
We are flying by feel and if we stall, the plane lands.
This is what we do here in the frozen northland.
Time to move back up here John J :)
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
-- "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Pat,
After 10 years of flying Firestars, I can fly a few feet over the runway, watch
the airspeed, and fly by feel, without having to stare at the runway. It is a
lot like keeping a car in the lane on the highway while watching the scenery,
never staring at the road. It is a really good feeling to have a plane that feels
like it is an extension on me.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
What about the Mode "C" Ring...... [Shocked]
.
.
.
Your not in Class B but your in the Mode "C" ring :?
.
..
.
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN ( California boy....Brrrr )
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Actually your not in the ring. The ring is from the lower altitude specified
on the sectional up to the ceiling altitude specified on the sectional.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:49 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mode C vieil question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
> What about the Mode "C" Ring...... [Shocked]
> .
> .
> .
>
> Your not in Class B but your in the Mode "C" ring :?
>
> .
> ..
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN ( California
> boy....Brrrr )
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4148#4148
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
This is what Kolb flying is all about. Amazing the places this little Kolb can
transport you.
Near the Knik Glacier, Alaska, about 2300 hours, July 2004.
That's Jim Stocker's PA-11 in front of me. We landed on the gravel bar in front
of the large moraine at the end of the glacial lake. Jim knew were all the
good places were to fly and land out. What a trip!
http://xrl.us/jkks
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Ed, all
> Most certainly not an 'urban legend' -- it did happen. Where & what
> was the jammed elevator you found ? Have you any details?
> The crash I remember was at LGA, may have been Eastern.
>
All modern commercial airliner crashes are well documented. After searching I
can not find one that was caused by a rock jammed in the elevator.
Im starting to think it is just an urban legend. It is possible someone is remembering
a certain crash, but thier idea of what caused it is very wrong.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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Cc: "Lane, Grey" <speedygrey@wideopenwest.com>
| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
The following is a copy/paste of the relevant FAR, with highlighting via
capitalization added by me to indicate what most of us need to know:
Federal Aviation Regulation Part 91 Section 215
ATC transponder and altitude reporting equipment and use
1.. All airspace: U.S.-registered civil aircraft. For operations not
conducted under part 121 or 135 of this chapter, ATC transponder equipment
installed must meet the performance and environmental requirements of any
class of TSO-C74b (Mode A) or any class of TSO-C74c (Mode A with altitude
reporting capability) as appropriate, or the appropriate class of TSO-C112
(Mode S).
2.. All airspace. UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED OR DIRECTED BY ATC, NO
PERSON MAY OPERATE AN AIRCRAFT IN THE AIRSPACE DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPHS
(B)(1) THROUGH (B)(5) OF THIS SECTION, UNLESS THAT AIRCRAFT IS EQUIPPED WITH
AN OPERABLE CODED RADAR BEACON TRANSPONDER having either Mode 3/A 4096 code
capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the code specified by
ATC, or a Mode S capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the
code specified by ATC and intermode and Mode S interrogations in accordance
with the applicable provisions specified in TSO C-112, and that aircraft is
equipped with automatic pressure altitude reporting equipment having a Mode
C capability that automatically replies to Mode C interrogations by
transmitting pressure altitude information in 100-foot increments. This
requirement applies --
1.. All aircraft. In Class A, Class B, and Class C airspace areas;
2.. All aircraft. IN ALL AIRSPACE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL MILES OF AN AIRPORT
LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART FROM THE SURFACE UPWARD TO
10,000 FEET MSL;
3.. Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(2) of this section, ANY AIRCRAFT WHICH
WAS NOT ORIGINALLY CERTIFICATED WITH AN ENGINE-DRIVEN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM OR
WHICH HAS NOT SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN CERTIFIED WITH SUCH A SYSTEM INSTALLED,
balloon or glider MAY CONDUCT OPERATIONS IN THE AIRSPACE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL
MILES OF AN AIRPORT LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART PROVIDED
SUCH OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED--
1.. OUTSIDE ANY CLASS A, CLASS B, OR CLASS C AIRSPACE AREA; and
2.. Below the altitude of the ceiling of a Class B or Class C airspace
area designated for an airport or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower; and
4.. All aircraft in all airspace above the ceiling and within the
lateral boundaries of a Class B or Class C airspace area designated for an
airport upward to 10,000 feet MSL; and
5.. All aircraft except any aircraft which was not originally
certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or which has not
subsequently been certified with such a system installed, balloon, or
glider -- --
1.. In all airspace of the 48 contiguous states and the District of
Columbia at and above 10,000 feet MSL, excluding the airspace at and below
2,500 feet above the surface; and
2.. In the airspace from the surface to 10,000 feet MSL within a
10-nautical-mile radius of any airport listed in appendix D, section 2 of
this part, excluding the airspace below 1,200 feet outside of the lateral
boundaries of the surface area of the airspace designated for that airport.
==============================================
Sample of delimiters for Class B airspace within the Mode C:
http://www.kfackler.com/bin/mode_c.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
The tires on that cub are so big I bet he could use them as floats :D
That is my dream, to fly my Kolb across the country and to places that no man has
ever gone before [Mr. Green] I just cannot immagine anything better than
that.
Michael Bigelow
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
WHAT??? [Rolling Eyes] [Shocked] :?
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
John H,
Hope you dont mind, but that picture was so impressive, i downloaded it, and
will use it for my desktop wallpaper... awesome photo! Thanks for sharing!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
This is what Kolb flying is all about. Amazing the places this little Kolb can
transport you.
Near the Knik Glacier, Alaska, about 2300 hours, July 2004.
That's Jim Stocker's PA-11 in front of me. We landed on the gravel bar in front
of the large moraine at the end of the glacial lake. Jim knew were all the good
places were to fly and land out. What a trip!
http://xrl.us/jkks
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4154#4154
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Not Kolb, but I'll throw this at our intrepid helicopter pilot, John H.
Ray .... Tenn.
UltraStar
Certainly do not archive
A good looking blond showed up at a fixed base operators place and said she wanted
to rent a helicopter for a flight. He asked for her certificates and medical.
She had all. He questioned her closely and decided she was O.K.
She climbed in the helicopter, took off nicely, and climbed over the field to
3000 feet. Suddenly the engine quit and the copter descended wildly and suddenly,
landing with a crunch. The blond climbed out of the wreckage unhurt. The
owner and others ran over and asked what happened. The blond answered bewielderly,
" I don't know, I was getting awfully cold so I just turned off the ceiling
fan".
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| Subject: | Re: nuts n bolts |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
Don't want to over work the issue, but there are few guidelines:
If the bolt is primarily loaded in tension, more washers are slightly better
than fewer, because they add axial stiffenss to the parts of the joint
compared to the bolt itself, and under preload, that means that
proportionally more of the load will go through the joint. But the effect
disappears as you add more total washer thickness than the thickness of the
washer's wall, in this case looking at a washer as if it were a piece of
tube.
If the bolts are primarily loaded in shear, then make certain that the
threads are not in shear. Once that's done, minimise the amount of washers
because more washers generally add length to the moment arm that puts the
bolts in bending. You don't want to increase bending in a bolt.
Don't ever cut threads on aircraft bolts.
Dave Paule
Boulder, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> John H,
>
> Hope you dont mind, but that picture was so impressive, i downloaded it, and
will use it for my desktop wallpaper... awesome photo! Thanks for sharing!
>
> Mike S
>
Mike: You are more than welcome to use the photo. It makes me feel good to be
able to share my adventures with my MKIII. Other than the self satisfaction
of accomplishing a lot of things I did not know I could do with the Kolb, my rewards
are folks enjoying the photos and stories from the trips. I know, I know,
I need to take the time to write some articles, books, etc. I will, in time.
I would appreciate, those that do use my photos, to give me credit for them. They
are posted on the internet for all to see and enjoy.
john h
PS: High in the mountains north of Salmon Glacier, at the abandoned Gran Duc Copper Mine airstrip. Could write a short article on this photo and what it took to get here and back out of the mountains. Thought I was alone up here, but on the way out discovered a 4wd a few miles south of this location. This is about 40 miles north of Hyder, Alaska, southernmost village in Alaska. http://xrl.us/jkmh
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
:-)
that was cute Ray! :-)~
Later this summer when my field is ready, you will have to find your way down
here to Manchester... Have a hot grill, and a cold cooler with an assortment
of beverages. Maybe, we can arrange a mini flyin to break in my strip... You,
and John H.... are invited,.. and any others that can reach middle TN....
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive
ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson
Not Kolb, but I'll throw this at our intrepid helicopter pilot, John H.
Ray .... Tenn.
UltraStar
Certainly do not archive
A good looking blond showed up at a fixed base operators place and said she wanted
to rent a helicopter for a flight. He asked for her certificates and medical.
She had all. He questioned her closely and decided she was O.K.
She climbed in the helicopter, took off nicely, and climbed over the field to 3000
feet. Suddenly the engine quit and the copter descended wildly and suddenly,
landing with a crunch. The blond climbed out of the wreckage unhurt. The owner
and others ran over and asked what happened. The blond answered bewielderly,
" I don't know, I was getting awfully cold so I just turned off the ceiling
fan".
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
For those interested, here is a good article about the Granduc Copper
Mine and the diaster that occurred soon after it was opened.
http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yafeatures/bl-granduc1.htm
It is possible to reach the old mine by 4wd. However, during its
operation, a tunnel was dug through the mountain, 20 km or so, I don't
remember exactly and have not reread the article, to haul out the ore,
rather than try to haul it out on the hazardous mine road which would
have been closed by snow in the winter months.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Bearing in mind that anything legally operating under Part 103 in not an
aircraft, it is a "vehicle."
So all the following you added is great, but does not apply to part 103
vehicles. Only aircraft.
An ultralight is not legally an aircraft, as defined by the FAA.
That is why ATC does not give ATC (separation) services to ultralights.
Thus the whole Sport Plane bit. And Experimentals, to which that all
applies.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
kfackler wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
>The following is a copy/paste of the relevant FAR, with highlighting via
>capitalization added by me to indicate what most of us need to know:
>
>Federal Aviation Regulation Part 91 Section 215
>ATC transponder and altitude reporting equipment and use
> 1.. All airspace: U.S.-registered civil aircraft. For operations not
>conducted under part 121 or 135 of this chapter, ATC transponder equipment
>installed must meet the performance and environmental requirements of any
>class of TSO-C74b (Mode A) or any class of TSO-C74c (Mode A with altitude
>reporting capability) as appropriate, or the appropriate class of TSO-C112
>(Mode S).
>
>
> 2.. All airspace. UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED OR DIRECTED BY ATC, NO
>PERSON MAY OPERATE AN AIRCRAFT IN THE AIRSPACE DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPHS
>(B)(1) THROUGH (B)(5) OF THIS SECTION, UNLESS THAT AIRCRAFT IS EQUIPPED WITH
>AN OPERABLE CODED RADAR BEACON TRANSPONDER having either Mode 3/A 4096 code
>capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the code specified by
>ATC, or a Mode S capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the
>code specified by ATC and intermode and Mode S interrogations in accordance
>with the applicable provisions specified in TSO C-112, and that aircraft is
>equipped with automatic pressure altitude reporting equipment having a Mode
>C capability that automatically replies to Mode C interrogations by
>transmitting pressure altitude information in 100-foot increments. This
>requirement applies --
>
>
> 1.. All aircraft. In Class A, Class B, and Class C airspace areas;
>
>
> 2.. All aircraft. IN ALL AIRSPACE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL MILES OF AN AIRPORT
>LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART FROM THE SURFACE UPWARD TO
>10,000 FEET MSL;
>
>
> 3.. Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(2) of this section, ANY AIRCRAFT WHICH
>WAS NOT ORIGINALLY CERTIFICATED WITH AN ENGINE-DRIVEN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM OR
>WHICH HAS NOT SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN CERTIFIED WITH SUCH A SYSTEM INSTALLED,
>balloon or glider MAY CONDUCT OPERATIONS IN THE AIRSPACE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL
>MILES OF AN AIRPORT LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART PROVIDED
>SUCH OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED--
>
>
> 1.. OUTSIDE ANY CLASS A, CLASS B, OR CLASS C AIRSPACE AREA; and
>
>
> 2.. Below the altitude of the ceiling of a Class B or Class C airspace
>area designated for an airport or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower; and
>
>
> 4.. All aircraft in all airspace above the ceiling and within the
>lateral boundaries of a Class B or Class C airspace area designated for an
>airport upward to 10,000 feet MSL; and
>
>
> 5.. All aircraft except any aircraft which was not originally
>certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or which has not
>subsequently been certified with such a system installed, balloon, or
>glider -- --
>
>
> 1.. In all airspace of the 48 contiguous states and the District of
>Columbia at and above 10,000 feet MSL, excluding the airspace at and below
>2,500 feet above the surface; and
>
>
> 2.. In the airspace from the surface to 10,000 feet MSL within a
>10-nautical-mile radius of any airport listed in appendix D, section 2 of
>this part, excluding the airspace below 1,200 feet outside of the lateral
>boundaries of the surface area of the airspace designated for that airport.
>==============================================
>
>Sample of delimiters for Class B airspace within the Mode C:
>
>http://www.kfackler.com/bin/mode_c.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: DC-9
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> Ed, all
> Most certainly not an 'urban legend' -- it did happen. Where & what
> was the jammed elevator you found ? Have you any details?
Here's the DC-7C link:
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_details.cgi?date=03041962®=G-ARUD&airline=Celedonian+Airways
> The crash I remember was at LGA, may have been Eastern.
> There was also a crash in Boston about the same time? caused by a
> flock of starlings being ingested --
I spent hours going through the archives: DC-8, DC-9, 727, 747. Nothing
jumped out as ' jammed elevator'. Could be another type?
> Do we still need -- do not archive?
> Russ Kinne
I do it out of habit.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
By your reasoning, I can fly right into Detroit Metro airspace since I'm
"not an aircraft." Isn't that silly on the face of it? Ultralights are
required to comply with the other FARs unless 103 gives them a specific rule
to the contrary, usually marked with the word "notwithstanding."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mode C veil question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Bearing in mind that anything legally operating under Part 103 in not an
> aircraft, it is a "vehicle."
> So all the following you added is great, but does not apply to part 103
> vehicles. Only aircraft.
> An ultralight is not legally an aircraft, as defined by the FAA.
> That is why ATC does not give ATC (separation) services to ultralights.
> Thus the whole Sport Plane bit. And Experimentals, to which that all
> applies.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> kfackler wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> >
> >The following is a copy/paste of the relevant FAR, with highlighting via
> >capitalization added by me to indicate what most of us need to know:
> >
> >Federal Aviation Regulation Part 91 Section 215
> >ATC transponder and altitude reporting equipment and use
> > 1.. All airspace: U.S.-registered civil aircraft. For operations not
> >conducted under part 121 or 135 of this chapter, ATC transponder
equipment
> >installed must meet the performance and environmental requirements of any
> >class of TSO-C74b (Mode A) or any class of TSO-C74c (Mode A with altitude
> >reporting capability) as appropriate, or the appropriate class of
TSO-C112
> >(Mode S).
> >
> >
> > 2.. All airspace. UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED OR DIRECTED BY ATC, NO
> >PERSON MAY OPERATE AN AIRCRAFT IN THE AIRSPACE DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPHS
> >(B)(1) THROUGH (B)(5) OF THIS SECTION, UNLESS THAT AIRCRAFT IS EQUIPPED
WITH
> >AN OPERABLE CODED RADAR BEACON TRANSPONDER having either Mode 3/A 4096
code
> >capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the code specified
by
> >ATC, or a Mode S capability, replying to Mode 3/A interrogations with the
> >code specified by ATC and intermode and Mode S interrogations in
accordance
> >with the applicable provisions specified in TSO C-112, and that aircraft
is
> >equipped with automatic pressure altitude reporting equipment having a
Mode
> >C capability that automatically replies to Mode C interrogations by
> >transmitting pressure altitude information in 100-foot increments. This
> >requirement applies --
> >
> >
> > 1.. All aircraft. In Class A, Class B, and Class C airspace areas;
> >
> >
> > 2.. All aircraft. IN ALL AIRSPACE WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL MILES OF AN
AIRPORT
> >LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART FROM THE SURFACE UPWARD TO
> >10,000 FEET MSL;
> >
> >
> > 3.. Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(2) of this section, ANY AIRCRAFT
WHICH
> >WAS NOT ORIGINALLY CERTIFICATED WITH AN ENGINE-DRIVEN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
OR
> >WHICH HAS NOT SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN CERTIFIED WITH SUCH A SYSTEM INSTALLED,
> >balloon or glider MAY CONDUCT OPERATIONS IN THE AIRSPACE WITHIN 30
NAUTICAL
> >MILES OF AN AIRPORT LISTED IN APPENDIX D, SECTION 1 OF THIS PART PROVIDED
> >SUCH OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED--
> >
> >
> > 1.. OUTSIDE ANY CLASS A, CLASS B, OR CLASS C AIRSPACE AREA; and
> >
> >
> > 2.. Below the altitude of the ceiling of a Class B or Class C
airspace
> >area designated for an airport or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower;
and
> >
> >
> > 4.. All aircraft in all airspace above the ceiling and within the
> >lateral boundaries of a Class B or Class C airspace area designated for
an
> >airport upward to 10,000 feet MSL; and
> >
> >
> > 5.. All aircraft except any aircraft which was not originally
> >certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or which has not
> >subsequently been certified with such a system installed, balloon, or
> >glider -- --
> >
> >
> > 1.. In all airspace of the 48 contiguous states and the District of
> >Columbia at and above 10,000 feet MSL, excluding the airspace at and
below
> >2,500 feet above the surface; and
> >
> >
> > 2.. In the airspace from the surface to 10,000 feet MSL within a
> >10-nautical-mile radius of any airport listed in appendix D, section 2 of
> >this part, excluding the airspace below 1,200 feet outside of the lateral
> >boundaries of the surface area of the airspace designated for that
airport.
> >==============================================
> >
> >Sample of delimiters for Class B airspace within the Mode C:
> >
> >http://www.kfackler.com/bin/mode_c.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Mike Pierzina wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
>WHAT??? [Rolling Eyes] [Shocked] :?
>
The above might be a downside to using the bbs instead of the list. To
what prior post does this refer? There have been a lot of posts on this
topic.
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
since I'm
| "not an aircraft." Isn't that silly on the face of it? Ultralights
are
| required to comply with the other FARs unless 103 gives them a
specific rule
| to the contrary, usually marked with the word "notwithstanding."
Ken:
Without reading Part 103 again, ULs are not authorized in any
controlled airspace without specific permission to do so by the
controlling authority.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hiya Ken & All,
FAR 103.17 states:
"No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area
of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior
authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace."
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mode C veil question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> By your reasoning, I can fly right into Detroit Metro airspace since I'm
> "not an aircraft." Isn't that silly on the face of it? Ultralights are
> required to comply with the other FARs unless 103 gives them a specific
> rule
> to the contrary, usually marked with the word "notwithstanding."
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Here is the ultralight thing.
103.17 Operation in certain airspaces.
No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
C, Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of
Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior
authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
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From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mode C veil question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Bearing in mind that anything legally operating under Part 103 in not an
> aircraft, it is a "vehicle."
> So all the following you added is great, but does not apply to part 103
> vehicles. Only aircraft.
> An ultralight is not legally an aircraft, as defined by the FAA.
> That is why ATC does not give ATC (separation) services to ultralights.
> Thus the whole Sport Plane bit. And Experimentals, to which that all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C Veil Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
That didn't say anything aboutMODE "C"
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C vieil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: Mode C vieil question
>
>
> Mike Pierzina wrote:
>
> Quote:
>
>
> WHAT??? [Rolling Eyes] [Shocked]
>
>
>
> The above might be a downside to using the bbs instead of the list. To
> what prior post does this refer? There have been a lot of posts on this
> topic.
>
>
>
> Sorry, I didn't realize that....
>
> Here is WHAT... I was responding to...
>
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Post subject: Mode C vieil question
>
>
> Actually your not in the ring. The ring is from the lower altitude specified
> on the sectional up to the ceiling altitude specified on the sectional.
> Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>
> Seems to me that if your under the Class "B"....you"ARE" in the Mode "C" ring....also
the Mode "C" ring has a bigger Diameter than the "B"
>
> I'll try to keep the other list in mind when I responed....
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
> PS ...Still don't know about the Do not archive....??? Out the window...
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stall speed / GPS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
The easiest and may be the safest way to determine ground effect stall speed
is to tease the plane off the ground in the three point stance.>>
Hi,
I am sure you are right. When I leave the ground my object (usually) is to
get as far from it as quickly as possible. Bad things don `t happen when
you are flying. Its when you touch the hard stuff that all the nasties
start.
I saw a TV thing last night and one of the characters said "You shouldn`t be
afraid of flying. Its crashing you should be afraid of``. That about sums it
up.
Low flying should be done with bags of speed not messing about around the
stall.
A couple of good pictures exist. One is a Sunderland flying boat (its a big
plane, 4 engines and 2 decks) flying down the runway at Phenurpai (Sp) in
New Zealand with dust and bits of plane flying into the air. The other is a
painting which depicts a Boston or a Havoc during the first raid which the
Americans made on the Continent (I think they borrowed the planes from the
RAF) to celebrate the anniversary of the Yanks arrival in the UK. One hit
the runway, it was supposed to be low level, but bounced back into the air
and made it home.
In my book, unless you are landing, low level and low speed are not
comfortable bed mates.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
That's what that cute sexy little blonde passenger is for! >>
Hi Russ,
you wouldn`t trust a blonde to give you the right time of day, let alone
your airspeed,
Pat
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| Subject: | Floats for the Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Diego Ospina <dospi@epm.net.co>
Hello everyone,
My name is Diego Ospina I live in Colombia and I'm the proud owner of a Kolb
Mark III Classic that I bought from the old Kolb Company.
I have a question for those of you who have installed the Full Lotus floats
on the Mark III; I have seen many pictures where they have installed the
1220 model on their planes, however Full Lotus recommends the 1260 which is
heavier, longer and costs a bit more. According to your experience, what
model of floats should I order? I also want to know if there is a bolt on
float kit for the Mark III on the market
Thanks and good flying
Diego Ospina
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> By your reasoning, I can fly right into Detroit Metro airspace since I'm
> "not an aircraft." Isn't that silly on the face of it? Ultralights are
> required to comply with the other FARs unless 103 gives them a
> specific rule to the contrary, usually marked with the word
"notwithstanding."
> Without reading Part 103 again, ULs are not authorized in any
> controlled airspace without specific permission to do so by the
> controlling authority.
Yes, that's true, which exemplifies my point, that some provisions of FAR
103 may supercede the other regs, but arguing that the other regs don't
apply to ultralights is, well, as I said, silly.
-Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Small video of kolb landing in winter ... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
The video quality is quite limited >>
Hi,
never mind. At last I can see that there is actually a use for a camera on a
phone. Why are you not inside with a large single malt and a blazing fire
instead of messing about in all that white stuff.?
great pics.
Thanks
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Quicksilver [Shocked] ??? You might as well try to make a tumbleweed glide...
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Also interested in VGs>>
Hi Guys,
Mick Moulai,(Kiwimick) the UK and European dealer has got approval from the
PFA (like your EAA) for the VG`s he imports. Also from the CAA (your FAA).
We cannot just make mods such as this without approval. He has checked the
results pretty thoroughly and can give you the pukka gen .
I have them fitted to my Xtra but as authority has not cleared the test
flying yet I cannot comment from personal experience.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I am still doing most of my primary List reading on the old email list. >>
I am with you John. The old system seems much easier to navigate but the
extra dimension the BBS gives ( should we have had the phone./camera pics on
the ols system?) makes it a useful backup.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
A
flight attendant survived the ride from FL330 in the tail section.>><
Hi Ed,
is this another urban legend?. There was a story circulating around my area
during the war about a rear gunner who made it to the ground in the tail
section of a Lancaster when it broke off after an attack by a Me 109. Could
never verify it.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
John H,
Thank you for another wonderful photo, a very picturesque scene. And thank you
also for sharing with (and inspiring) us to see the limitless boundaries that
these seemingly simple but amazing little airplanes are capable of accomplishing.
You really should consider writing about your travels. I dismay that it might
not hit the NY Times top 10 best seller list (well, then again, it could happen),
but on this list, it would be a sure fire #1. I am one of many who have been
inspired by your adventures, and hope to someday (soon) accomplish a few of
my own (on a much smaller scale),
And rest assured, as I am asked about the story behind the photos, you are given
full credit, which is only just fully due. Thanks for sharing!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
> John H,
>
> Hope you dont mind, but that picture was so impressive, i downloaded it, and
will use it for my desktop wallpaper... awesome photo! Thanks for sharing!
>
> Mike S
>
Mike: You are more than welcome to use the photo. It makes me feel good to be able
to share my adventures with my MKIII. Other than the self satisfaction of
accomplishing a lot of things I did not know I could do with the Kolb, my rewards
are folks enjoying the photos and stories from the trips. I know, I know,
I need to take the time to write some articles, books, etc. I will, in time.
I would appreciate, those that do use my photos, to give me credit for them. They
are posted on the internet for all to see and enjoy.
john h
PS: High in the mountains north of Salmon Glacier, at the abandoned Gran Duc Copper Mine airstrip. Could write a short article on this photo and what it took to get here and back out of the mountains. Thought I was alone up here, but on the way out discovered a 4wd a few miles south of this location. This is about 40 miles north of Hyder, Alaska, southernmost village in Alaska. http://xrl.us/jkmh
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
>
>
> I have them fitted to my Xtra but as authority has not cleared the test
> flying yet I cannot comment from personal experience.
>
>
Thats horrible to live in a place where the government is such control freaks.
I hate to say it, but it gets more like that every day here in the US also.
Give it enough time, and we will need permission to go out the front door. Its
the same old story through the ages, people are passive, and slowly loose thier
freedoms until they find themselves enslaved.
Personally, If I were in your place, I would put them on my Kolb, fly it, and the
government would never know about it [Mr. Green]
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
We landed on the gravel bar in front of the large moraine
>.
John,
you should write a book. Illustrated with your pics it would be a
sure fire seller throughout the flying world. I would buy one for a start.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Floats for the Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Hola Diego,
I have been to Columbia several times, and lived in South America for 3 years.
I would love to fly a Kolb in South America, it is an incredibly beautiful place.
I hope you are flying a Rotax 912 though, because you know an off airport
landing in Columbia could very well be fatal, and not because of obsructions
[Shocked]
What city are you in ? Im guessing Cartegena if you are wanting floats [Wink]
Its good to see someone from down south here on the list, I hope you can post
pictures and stroies when you start flying. Bienvenidos a la lista.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: Floats for the Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Diego Ospina <dospi@epm.net.co>
Thank you for your post Michael
I wish I had a 912. I have a 582 but I haven't had any problems with it yet
(200 hrs.). I live in Medellin but I don't fly it here, I have a farm in the
northern part of Colombia not very far from Cartagena and that is where I
like to fly - lots of open space and beautiful scenery.
I will post pictures of my plane once I have it on floats
-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] En nombre de JetPilot
Enviado el: Domingo, 15 de Enero de 2006 04:42 p.m.
Para: kolb-list@matronics.com
Asunto: Kolb-List: Re: Floats for the Mark III
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Hola Diego,
I have been to Columbia several times, and lived in South America for 3
years. I would love to fly a Kolb in South America, it is an incredibly
beautiful place. I hope you are flying a Rotax 912 though, because you know
an off airport landing in Columbia could very well be fatal, and not because
of obsructions [Shocked]
What city are you in ? Im guessing Cartegena if you are wanting floats
[Wink] Its good to see someone from down south here on the list, I hope
you can post pictures and stroies when you start flying. Bienvenidos a la
lista.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: Mode C veil question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sorry for the confusion. Never meant to imply that part 103 vehicles
could go where no one else could, was merely attempting to add one more
facet to the original question by John Murr, which was:
What are the regulations for ultralights without transponders regarding being inside
the 30nm circle but not in Class B airspace? Thanks!
John
And all the replies focused on what sort of electrical system was
involved. However what I was trying to point out is that ultralights are
not any part of any of the regs that were quoted in those replies. But
since I omitted the part about ultralights not being allowed in
controlled airspace anyway, I can see how you drew your conclusion.
As far as "Ultralights are required to comply with the other FAR's
unless part 103 gives them a specific rule to the contrary," that
depends on which FAR's you are referencing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
kfackler wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
>
>
>> By your reasoning, I can fly right into Detroit Metro airspace since I'm
>>"not an aircraft." Isn't that silly on the face of it? Ultralights are
>>required to comply with the other FARs unless 103 gives them a
>>specific rule to the contrary, usually marked with the word
>>
>>
>"notwithstanding."
>
>
>
>
>>Without reading Part 103 again, ULs are not authorized in any
>>controlled airspace without specific permission to do so by the
>>controlling authority.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, that's true, which exemplifies my point, that some provisions of FAR
>103 may supercede the other regs, but arguing that the other regs don't
>apply to ultralights is, well, as I said, silly.
>
>-Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> Sorry for the confusion. Never meant to imply that part 103 vehicles
> could go where no one else could, was merely attempting to add one more
> facet to the original question
Got you. Good point.
> As far as "Ultralights are required to comply with the other FAR's
> unless part 103 gives them a specific rule to the contrary," that
> depends on which FAR's you are referencing.
Yeah, and to some extent, which person you ask and on what day! In any case,
you're darn right "it depends."
-Ken
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Pat,
Sure. I make stuff up all the time. "Never let the truth get in the way of
a good story."
Or you could read it here:
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_details.cgi?date=01261972®=YU-AHT&airline=JAT+Yugoslav+Airlines
I believe I did say it was in the archives.
There was another civil accident involving a Cessna 337P pressurized
Skymaster (push-pull twin) years ago with 2 aboard. Going on memory, the
cabin had a pressurization problem and the aircraft continued climbing to
about FL250 due to both aboard being incapacitated. Aircraft entered an
area of weather (read 'thunderstorm') and disappearred from radar. It was
found in a large tree, missing most of one wing. The female pax survived,
the pilot died - not from the crash, but from hypoxia. In the NTSB
archives.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: DC-9
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> A
> flight attendant survived the ride from FL330 in the tail section.>><
>
> Hi Ed,
> is this another urban legend?. There was a story circulating around my
> area
> during the war about a rear gunner who made it to the ground in the tail
> section of a Lancaster when it broke off after an attack by a Me 109.
> Could
> never verify it.
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
What are the regulations for ultralights without transponders regarding being inside
the 30mn circle but not in Class B airspace? Thanks!
John
I'd call the FAA ........... [Wink]
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 1/15/2006 8:26:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
eagle1@commspeed.net writes:
I have always heard that when the fan stops on a Quicksilver, look strait
down because that's where you are going to land.
Az Bald Eagle
About the 3rd tie I flew with E.P. in his Quicksilver on floats I was flying
at about 200 ft over the Key West channel. He asked me not to straddle the
channel markers because if we had an engine out we were screwed. He
demonstrated this to Me later Sans marker. The QS2 goes Straight Down. Its like
a
parachute.
Steve B
FF#007
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| Subject: | transponder cert |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Try this: land at an airport with an approach control, and go to a point
on the runway or taxiway where the altitude MSL is known exactly, (it's
on the approach plate) then set your altimeter to the barometric
pressure on the current ATIS, and then ask ATC what your Mode C readout
is. (ground control can read it off the tower BRITE scope) Now you know
how accurate your Mode C is, and also know how accurate your altimeter
is. If either one is off, you need to go to an avionics shop.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
if i remember corectly the blind encoders are set to 29.92 inches of mercury.....
and will only match exactly if your altimiter is set for 29.92 inches.....
also the blind encoders only change altitude every 100 ft. and i would
have to do some research to remember if they switch at an even 100 ft or if
they switch at the 50 ft intervals. ie 45050 4650 4750 vs
4500 4600 4700
if i have mis understood this information please someone set me straight.
boyd young
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Hi,
Your not allowed inside the mode-c circle without a transponder and alt. encoder.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
xxxxxxxxxxxx
if you call an hour or more in advance you can get permission to go through........
every year I go to MV I have to call to get permission....... also if you
have no electrical system you can get a permanent waver......
but when I have traveled through I am reminded to get the equipment installed and
working..... but when I call and talk to the supervisor he tells me that
on a once a year trespass through the area is not a problem.... but if I were
to make a habit of it I would be required to have it working.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark" <mshimei@netzero.net>
I used to have a Weight Shift quick......(25yrs ago) I always landed with the engine
off (instructer encouraged that...I might get cut by the prop if it flipped)
[Shocked]
This was a modified slope model,had a 7to1 glide ratio.Seemed more like 4to1.
It weighed 130lbs with 1 1/2 gal of fuel,I was 135lbs.
I cant imagine almost the same model,beefed up,same wing area,at 700 lbs flying
weight.
Mark in Fl
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Mark Shimei
Twinstar, 503
Phantom, Kawasaki 440
Weight shift Quick, Chrysler
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| Subject: | Re: transponder cert |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
This may not answer your question, but here is how ATC does it:
ATC is interested in if your mode C is within 300 feet of what you claim
your altitude is. For instance, "Tri City Approach, Kolb Experimental
N420P is 20 SW of TRI, flying NE along the Interstate to VJI at 3,000,
squawking 1200." They give you a discreet code, ID you, and as long as
your mode C readout is within 300' or less of what you claim it is, they
are happy. If not, they will tell you that your mode C differs by more
than 300', stop altitude squawk, and then they will add your N # to the
monthly gripe sheet that goes to FSDO. Then you will get a query from
FSDO as to why your mode C is off, and they will advise you that they
are now anxiously awaiting a copy of the receipt you need to get from
your friendly local avionics shop, verifying that you have had your mode
C recalibrated and it is now within tolerance. (Whee!)
To avoid such expensive unpleasantries, that is why I suggested what you
copied below, because here is how it works in practice: To ensure that
your mode C is accurate, ATC sets the altitude filter limits of their
radar to the field elevation of their primary airport, so they can see
your mode C as you are going down the runway, and verify that it is the
same as the airport elevation. They know the airport elevation, so they
know what your mode C ought to be reading. Or if you call them while
airborne, they ask you "Say altitude." And you need to be within 300' or
less of what your mode C readout is.
As far as how the ATC interrogator compensates for the aircraft's mode C
always being on 29.92, and compensating for the variation between the
barometric pressure and the fixed setting - I called out to the tower
and none of my old buds knew how it worked, just that it did. (Sort of
like automatic transmissions?)
Grey Baron? Input? You da geek on this one-
Irrespective of the technical details, that is how the system works, and
that is what they look for. And you want your altimeter to agree with
what your mode C is squawking. Setting your altimeter to the current
ATIS and field elevation while you are sitting on a taxiway of known
elevation at that primary airport and then cross checking with ATC to
see if everything agrees will work every time, trust me.
Richard Pike
30 years ATC, Tri City Regional Airport (retired)
b young wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
>Try this: land at an airport with an approach control, and go to a point
>on the runway or taxiway where the altitude MSL is known exactly, (it's
>on the approach plate) then set your altimeter to the barometric
>pressure on the current ATIS, and then ask ATC what your Mode C readout
>is. (ground control can read it off the tower BRITE scope) Now you know
>how accurate your Mode C is, and also know how accurate your altimeter
>is. If either one is off, you need to go to an avionics shop.
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>if i remember corectly the blind encoders are set to 29.92 inches of mercury.....
and will only match exactly if your altimiter is set for 29.92 inches.....
also the blind encoders only change altitude every 100 ft. and i would
have to do some research to remember if they switch at an even 100 ft or
if they switch at the 50 ft intervals. ie 45050 4650 4750 vs
4500 4600 4700
>
>if i have mis understood this information please someone set me straight.
>
>boyd young
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi John,
Thanks for the update. I did not know an ultrlight could get permission to go through
class B airspace.
Some of the others are debating about an electrical system. Doesn't a lighting
coil and a battery make up an electrical system? Needs better defining I believe.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Is that Salmon Glacier in the background in this pic, John ?? If so, I
must've turned around just a bit too soon in '02, cause I was *almost* right
there, but didn't get to see the strip. That 1st pic was awesome.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Travels
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>> John H,
>>
>> Hope you dont mind, but that picture was so impressive, i downloaded it,
>> and will use it for my desktop wallpaper... awesome photo! Thanks for
>> sharing!
>>
>> Mike S
>>
>
>
> Mike: You are more than welcome to use the photo. It makes
>
> john h
>
> PS: High in the mountains north of Salmon Glacier, at the abandoned Gran
> Duc Copper Mine airstrip. Could write a short article on this photo and
> what it took to get here and back out of the mountains. Thought I was
> alone up here, but on the way out discovered a 4wd a few miles south of
> this location. This is about 40 miles north of Hyder, Alaska,
> southernmost village in Alaska. http://xrl.us/jkmh
>
> --------
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Is that Salmon Glacier in the background in this pic, John ??
Nope. That is a much smaller glacier north of the north fork of the Salmon Glacier
a few miles or so. Can't really visualize how far north of where the Salmon
splits and turns south and north. Was very busy flying through here because
of the terrain, very marginal visability, and pure excitement.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Fellow aviator makes his final flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Gentlemen:
Most of you here on the Kolb List will not have known or met Bill Wolverton.
He was a man who was much loved and admired by all who knew him and a prime,
skilled aviator. He flew many airplanes in his life, most of which were
ultralights or experimentals. For the past several years he was regularly
seen in the skies over Michigan in his beautiful red Hiperlight. Bill passed
away at noon today (Jan 15) after a short illness. His wife says he made the
transition peacefully and without pain. I ask that you offer any prayer or
positive thought that you deem meaningful for his widow.
-Ken Fackler
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
When I took dual instruction in a QS 2 in Port Angeles, WA about 11 years
ago, we'd make base and final at 300 ft. agl, and the instructor had me wait
till I could see the numbers between my feet, then cut the throttle and keep
the AS indicator at 40 mph. It worked. Not quite straight down, and flare
at the very last second (clamp onto the seat time) and you'd touch down on
the numbers every time. Spooky, but fun, too. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "Mark" <mshimei@netzero.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:00 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Choices we make and the downside to our sport
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark" <mshimei@netzero.net>
>
> I used to have a Weight Shift quick......(25yrs ago) I always landed with
> the engine off (instructer encouraged that...I might get cut by the prop
> if it flipped) [Shocked]
> This was a modified slope model,had a 7to1 glide ratio.Seemed more like
> 4to1. It weighed 130lbs with 1 1/2 gal of fuel,I was 135lbs.
> I cant imagine almost the same model,beefed up,same wing area,at 700 lbs
> flying weight.
> Mark in Fl
>
> --------
> Mark Shimei
> Twinstar, 503
> Phantom, Kawasaki 440
> Weight shift Quick, Chrysler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4273#4273
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Travels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
1988 was the year I really ventured out in the Firestar. I had a flight to Miami,
Florida, and return to Titus, Alabama, November 1987, and a round trip flight
to Sun and Fun 1988, where the little Kolb Firestar brought home the S&F Grand
Champ Trophy. When I got back home I started making plans to fly to the
Flight Farm at Monterey, NY, NW of Elmira. Was a very adventuresome flight, the
first of this magnitude. Once I got to the Flight Farm I flew every moment
I could. Bill Lockwood, who owned the Flight Farm, sponsored me with fuel and
oil while I was there for the 8 or 10 days. It became a good crowd draw to
watch the nut in the FS fly aerobatics and make dead stick landings right to the
parking spot, most every time. What a blast. That trip was made with no brakes
installed. I also flew up and over Niagra Falls on the way home to Alabama.
Busted my butt on Grand Island, NY. Spent 4 days repairing the FS enough
to fly back to Alabama. When I got home, I stripped the FS down to bare metal
on the fuselage, repaired and made a lot of modifications to make this little
airplane a really good little cross country airplane.
This photo was taken by a professional photograper as I was shooting an approach
into the flight farm.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
John H,
This glacier picture of yours is fantastic! I enjoy a lot of your pictures, but
to me, this one is the best.
>
> http://xrl.us/jkks
>
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
> stop altitude squawk, and then they will
> add your N # to the monthly gripe sheet that goes to FSDO.
Dang. Us ex Mil-ATC types just let it go at stopping the squawk......
> As far as how the ATC interrogator compensates for the aircraft's
mode
> C always being on 29.92, and compensating for the variation
between
> the barometric pressure and the fixed setting
http://tinyurl.com/92jev
A not too technical expalnation...disregard the 200 foot issue
on discrepancy, it's 300 ft as mentioned.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
John H
I know you have declined to write about your trips in the past many times
and I respect your decision but you keep teasing us with your incredible
photos. One more time my friend then I will stop, please consider sharing
something with the world. Two of your friends have published articles in
Sport Pilot how about you? You could do a short preamble like John W did and
include the photos with the descriptions you have already done and shared
with us after each one of your trips. I will write Mary at EAA's Sport Pilot
and see if she is interested (I know she is) if you like. Throw another log
on the fire and take advantage of the cold weather and do some writing.
A few people have again asked that you write a book. You have the
experiences that would make a great one. Last year I read a Steven Coonts
book called Canable Queen about a pilot that flew a Stearman back and forth
across the US. He is making a small fortune on an a basic travel log that
has no comparison to any one of your trips. This group has some very
talented people that have offered to assist you in the past. I took
advantage of some of them when I wrote the Monument Valley article and they
made me look like a real writer. Seems like I remember someone even offering
to write from your dictation. I would treasure having a book written by you
about your flights to Alaska. Most of us can only dream of doing that kind
of flight.
Please!!! No bullshit the flying world needs to know that there are people
that can enjoy exploring our great country in something less than a big $$$
airplane flying a zillion miles and hour. I would be happy to suggest to
Mary that you just need a bit more urging and you will send her an article.
What do you guys think would you like to see John H publish something???
Sorry John
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Travels
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> For those interested, here is a good article about the Granduc Copper
> Mine and the diaster that occurred soon after it was opened.
>
> http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yafeatures/bl-granduc1.htm
>
> It is possible to reach the old mine by 4wd. However, during its
> operation, a tunnel was dug through the mountain, 20 km or so, I don't
> remember exactly and have not reread the article, to haul out the ore,
> rather than try to haul it out on the hazardous mine road which would
> have been closed by snow in the winter months.
>
> john h
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Thanks John J. I enjoyed taking it. Was a mind blowing flight that night. All
of this was brand new, as I followed Jim Stocker around the area in his Piper
PA-11. Was nice to have a guide.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I know you have declined to write about your trips in the past Rick Neilsen
Thanks for your concern, Rick.
OK, I'll write an article.
No need to grease the skids for me to Mary Jones. We go back to OSH 1989, when
we did my first story. Then again in 1993, after Grand Champ Lt Plane, and the
following year was when I did the article on the 1994 flight around CONUS and
up to Alaska.
You can read it when it is published. ;-)
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
What you really need to do is write it and send it to Beauford. Wait
patiently until the gin and macanudos have had their way with your tale,
and then instead of sending it to Mary Jones, aim it to hit the NYT best
seller list. Then you and Beauford will both be rich...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
>
>>I know you have declined to write about your trips in the past Rick Neilsen
>>
>>
>
>
>Thanks for your concern, Rick.
>
>OK, I'll write an article.
>
>No need to grease the skids for me to Mary Jones. We go back to OSH 1989, when
we did my first story. Then again in 1993, after Grand Champ Lt Plane, and
the following year was when I did the article on the 1994 flight around CONUS
and up to Alaska.
>
>You can read it when it is published. ;-)
>
>--------
>John Hauck
>MKIII/912ULS
>hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
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