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1. 05:09 AM - Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? (Paul Petty)
2. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: UltraStar For Sale On Ebay... (pat ladd)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? (JetPilot)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: UltraStar For Sale On Ebay... (ray anderson)
5. 07:55 AM - Rotax List ???????????????? (JetPilot)
6. 08:43 AM - Re: Jabiru 2 cyl. (Thom Riddle)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Kolbdriver)
8. 09:17 AM - Mark III on Floats with Jabiru Engine (Kolbdriver)
9. 10:21 AM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Larry Cottrell)
10. 10:49 AM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Matt Dralle)
11. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: firefly flaperons (DAquaNut@aol.com)
12. 02:51 PM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (JetPilot)
13. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? (Richard Swiderski)
14. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Robert Laird)
15. 06:22 PM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (JetPilot)
16. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (robert bean)
17. 07:04 PM - Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? (JetPilot)
18. 07:16 PM - Re: firefly flaperons (Don G)
19. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Kolbdriver)
20. 10:06 PM - Re: Rotax List ???????????????? (Dave G)
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| Subject: | Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net>
Michael,
We have put flaps on a Kolbra from the Mark III classic plans. We had to go with
an electric flap motor from a RV8 to make it work though. How far along are
you with your kit? Can you post some photos?
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar For Sale On Ebay... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
the builder formed the strut ends, and didn't do them properly.>>
Hi All,
does that mean that there is no system of inspection during the building of
a plane from kit or plans?. If there is, how did an item like that get
passed?
We may be more `controlled` by authority here than in the US but the
chances of such a thing happening here during building are minimal.
It is not impossible for things to go wrong as we have a bad case here at
the moment where a weightshift crashed killing pilot and passenger
apparently as the result of a botched repair, wrong rivets used etc.,. It
would seem that a proper check of the repair was not carried out. The
chances of such a botch being made actually during building and not being
detected are very , very small indeed.
cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I ordered the kit with the classic flaps. So whatever setup the standard MK III
C had is what I have got, nothing is changed from the factory setup.
Sorry, I dont have any pictures to post. Photography is one of my hobbies, and
one day I will fill up this server with lots of pictures :) But nothing yet...
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar For Sale On Ebay... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Having built an UltraStar, I would say that the cracks in the struts come from
mishandling after construction. Struts can be twisted badly during wing foldings
or dissemble. Careless side movement before the pins are pulled can cause
cracks. A number of careless actions can cause them. That type of builder and
flyer who doesn't understand and practice the proper discipline can be a menace
in a lot of ways.
pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat
ladd"
the builder formed the strut ends, and didn't do them properly.>>
Hi All,
does that mean that there is no system of inspection during the building of
a plane from kit or plans?. If there is, how did an item like that get
passed?
We may be more `controlled` by authority here than in the US but the
chances of such a thing happening here during building are minimal.
It is not impossible for things to go wrong as we have a bad case here at
the moment where a weightshift crashed killing pilot and passenger
apparently as the result of a botched repair, wrong rivets used etc.,. It
would seem that a proper check of the repair was not carried out. The
chances of such a botch being made actually during building and not being
detected are very , very small indeed.
cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Here on Matronics there is a list for just about every obscure model of aircraft
you can think of, and there is even a Jabiru list, so why is there no Rotax
list ??? [Crying or Very sad]
More of us use Rotax than all other engines put together, I would really like to
see a Rotax List. Does anyone know why the never made a Rotax List ??
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | re: Jabiru 2 cyl. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Here is the response I got from Jabiru USA on the subject.
Jabiru plans to introduce a 1100cc 45 hp, 85lb 4 stroke engine soon,
perhaps
at Sun N Fun. I expect a spec sheet soon. It will be very similar to
the 4
cyl jab with same alternator, starter, and ign system - just two fewer
cylinders.
It is running in ground tests on the test stand and Jabiru reports that
they
are generally pleased.
One of the questions we have, though, is whether there is a market for
an
engine with those specs priced at $7,500 - $8,000. Unfortunately
removing
half the cylinders from the 2200 engine does not remove half the cost.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
Since fuel consumption in most modern 4-stroke engines is almost a
linear function of horsepower, one could expect a 45 hp engine to burn
roughly 2 1/4 US gallons per hour at 75% power. I know my 912(80hp) at
75% power burns 4 gph. 80 x .75 = 60 hp or 15 hp/gph. 45 x .75 = 33 3/4
hp ==> 2 1/4 gph (33.75 / 15).
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Matt is very accommodating.
I assume it is because no one has asked him...
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JetPilot
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax List ????????????????
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Here on Matronics there is a list for just about every obscure model of
aircraft you can think of, and there is even a Jabiru list, so why is there
no Rotax list ??? [Crying or Very sad]
More of us use Rotax than all other engines put together, I would really
like to see a Rotax List. Does anyone know why the never made a Rotax List
??
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Mark III on Floats with Jabiru Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Folks,
Just saw a Mark III on floats with Jab engine on ebay.
Auction Number: 4606694279
Here is the text:
Vehicle Description
Here is a Nice KOLB MK-lll, seaplane. It has a Jabiru 80 hp, The plane is a
97 and has Stits Polyfiber with Aerothane, it has about 275hours on the
airframe. The engine has 27 hours on it since new and is a 2002. The floats
are 2003 Krucker Mfg. they are all welded aluminum and powder coated not
painted. It also comes with the wheels. It has an EIS system for the engine.
It has an airspeed, altimeter, and intercom. It has a heavy duty g-35
battery. 10 gal. fuel.
This plane is a rocket off the water, I took first last year in a short
takeoff contest, I was off the water in 3.5 sec. I kid you not. And I weigh
220#
Any questions call GORDIE 906-492-3520 or e-mail me.
_____
On Jan-20-06 at 19:21:45 PST, seller added the following information:
The plane is stored right now for winter, in Paradise, MI. 49768. It also
has folding wings and come with a trailer.
_____
On Jan-21-06 at 08:24:21 PST, seller added the following information:
I need to clarify that the plane is a 91 not a 97 , sorry for the confusion.
Also the wind damaged to rudder a couple years ago and I repaired and
repainted it(I'm an A&P). I also replaced one aileron control horn at the
same time. One float has a very slight bow in the top rail, it does not
affect its performance, or airworthyness.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:55 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax List ????????????????
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
> Here on Matronics there is a list for just about every obscure model of
> aircraft you can think of, and there is even a Jabiru list, so why is
> there no Rotax list ??? [Crying or Very sad]
What could you possibly ask about a Rotax that someone on the list couldn't
answer? Seems we spend about a equal amount of time talking about the
Rotaxes as anything.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
True. No one every asked for a Rotax List. Seems like a great idea. I'll be
adding a couple of other lists as well, hopefully this weekend, and I will add
a "rotax-list" to the line up. Thanks for the suggestion!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin
At 09:07 AM 1/21/2006 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
>
>Matt is very accommodating.
>
>I assume it is because no one has asked him...
>
>Mike
>
>
>Here on Matronics there is a list for just about every obscure model of
>aircraft you can think of, and there is even a Jabiru list, so why is there
>no Rotax list ??? [Crying or Very sad]
>
>More of us use Rotax than all other engines put together, I would really
>like to see a Rotax List. Does anyone know why the never made a Rotax List
>??
>
>Michael A. Bigelow
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Re: firefly flaperons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
After some health issues have improved I finally did a W&B on the
Firefly. Seems it comes in with the C.G. At 20.95 " from the leading edge or 32.7%
which I think is between the limits Kolb calls for. I have been taking some
lessons in crosswind landings in an aeronica champ to get some current time.
Question: Is there an advantage to taking off with
flapperons down or would it be better to ignore the flapperons altogether on a
2800'
grass strip.
Waiting for some good calm weather for a first flight,
Ed Diebel
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Matt Dralle wrote:
> True. No one every asked for a Rotax List. Seems like a great idea. I'll be
adding a couple of other lists as well, hopefully this weekend, and I will add
a "rotax-list" to the line up. Thanks for the suggestion!
>
>
Thats awesome Matt [Mr. Green] I figured I would have to email you, then get
a petition with 20,000 signatures or something :? But just getting it done
like this is greaet. There seem to be a lot of engine questions. The Rotax
is such a common engine that im sure all the different aircraft types are asking
the same questions in a bunch of different places. Putting everyones Rotax
engine knowlege in one place should be a benefit to us all.
Really great idea on creating the "Forum" format for all the lists. I was giong
to email you and suggest that, but you beat me to it :D Only question is
are you ready for your list volume to go up about 1000 % , im betting the forum
format will make this grow beyond your wildest dreams !! Thanks for everything.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Several reports say their experience makes them lean toward the
flaps. This is a reasonable conclusion if comparing Kolb flaps to Kolb
flaperons, however it may not be the definitive answer. The reason Kolb
flaperons are not so impressive is that they are in my opinion designed too
conservatively, ie, they do not deflect enough to produce maximum drag/lift
disruption for the obvious reason that an unskilled pilot could get in
trouble if used improperly. The only real disadvantage of flaperons is that
they inherently produce adverse yaw so roll response will always suffer.
Conversely, the flaps biggest advantage is that they do their thing without
adverse yaw.
So why ever resort to flaperons? I suggest Kolb did so for economy
& simplicity. But if you are out for getting the ultimate performance in
climb, accelerated descent & slow flight, then flaperons will beat out flaps
every time because unlike flaps, they can change the coefficient of lift
over the entire wing, therefore have the greatest effect as well. The
caveat to this is that they must be able to be deployed beyond the 20 degree
angle that Kolb conservatively uses. Furthermore, to get really stunning
performance, you would need a much deeper chord of the full length ailerons
that is found in the FireFly & SlingShot, but then high speed flight control
becomes a manly exercise. The Helio Courier, attacks this problem with huge
barndoor flaps and flaperons on the outer third of the wings. If the
flaperons can be sequentially extended, then you can eliminate the adverse
yaw problem as well, by deploying them on final.
When I converted my old UltraStar to flaperons it was a dramatic
change to my flight envelope. Climb rate, rate of descent, and slow flight
characteristics were all significantly improved. It had huge barndoor huge
ailerons from the fuselage tube to the wingtips. They were deployable to 45
degrees & reflexable upwards to 6 degrees. You had to stand on the rudder
if turns were attempted at full deflection & if a take off was stupidly
attempted in this configuration, the 1200fpm climb was reduced to 350fpm!
Descent, with about 3000rpm, was almost vertical- a very controlled mush.
About 5 degrees deflection made slow flight effortless (I wonder what I
would have had with VG's?!!!) And lightly loaded, 60mph cruise would get a
few more mph with a few degrees positive reflex. But, six degrees positive
reflex increased stall about 5mph (if I remember right) and not effect roll
response at all. I often used that configuration when I got caught in gusty
conditions & had problems with being tossed around near the ground. High
speed stick pressure was horrible, but I was young. If I ever had the
chance to fly against an UltraStar converted to flaps, my flaperon
configuration would excel in climb, rate of descent & slow flight. Adverse
yaw was only a problem with deployment beyond 20 degrees, & that was only
needed on final so it never was a serious issue.
So, what would I order with a new kit? I would order the flaps and
flaperon linkage & modify ailerons to be able to sequentially deploy them at
my discretion.
Richard Swiderski
SlingShot
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Zimmerman
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ???
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
John,
The first Firestar I did was an original with full span ailerons.
I split the Flaps in half with the in board half being the flaps with
the torque hinged on the torque tube of the ailerons similar to the
Mark III.
The control links were horizontal like the original aileron control
rods and went to a flap lever quadrant. It was a very simple and
straightforward installation.
This plane had unrivaled slow flight capability.
I could fly side by side with a Para plane in a nose high, power on,
stall mush, somewhere in the neighborhood of 18- 20 mph.
The second one was a Firstar II.
I first built it with flaperons and flew it that way for one season.
I was never happy with the flaperon performance so I changed it to a
flap aileron setup.
Since the control rods are vertical on the Firestar II and because
the cage is different it was not as easy to get a simple satisfactory
control system so I decided to use an electric servo and switch to
control the flaps since I already had a battery for the electric start.
From my experience with flaperons and also conventional flaps on the
same plane, I have decided I will never be interested in having
flaperons again.
On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:01 PM, John Jung wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>> I can't speak for the Mark III, but I have had both flaperons and
>> flaps on my current Firestar and have found the flaps to be much
>> prefered over the flaperons.
>>
>
> Eugene,
>
> Could you tell us about how you installed flaps on a Firestar? I
> don't recall hearing about it before.
>
> --------
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=5518#5518
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Say, let's have a MkIIIc forum, and a MkIIIx forum, and a Firestar
forum, and a Firefly forum, oops, nearly forgot, a Firestar 2 forum,
and maybe a Kolb-gear-leg forum.... bleh
Diluting the topics is NOT a good idea.
-- Robert
On 1/21/06, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Matt Dralle wrote:
> > True. No one every asked for a Rotax List. Seems like a great idea. I'll
be adding a couple of other lists as well, hopefully this weekend, and I will
add a "rotax-list" to the line up. Thanks for the suggestion!
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
rlaird wrote:
> Say, let's have a MkIIIc forum, and a MkIIIx forum, and a Firestar
> forum, and a Firefly forum, oops, nearly forgot, a Firestar 2 forum,
> and maybe a Kolb-gear-leg forum.... bleh
>
> Diluting the topics is NOT a good idea.
>
>
That is a bad example, im not proposing a breakup of an existing forum into different
forums as you so wronfully imply. I am saying we should bring all the
Rotax engine knowlege together in ONE forum. Currently, its spread out among
all the different ultralight types, when Rotax info could be brought together.
This would NOT put the Rotax info into seperate areas as you so wrongfully imply
with your bad example.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Although a segregated seafoam forum might be.
har har
-BB
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On 21, Jan 2006, at 9:00 PM, Robert Laird wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> Say, let's have a MkIIIc forum, and a MkIIIx forum, and a Firestar
> forum, and a Firefly forum, oops, nearly forgot, a Firestar 2 forum,
> and maybe a Kolb-gear-leg forum.... bleh
>
> Diluting the topics is NOT a good idea.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> On 1/21/06, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Matt Dralle wrote:
>>> True. No one every asked for a Rotax List. Seems like a great
>>> idea. I'll be adding a couple of other lists as well, hopefully
>>> this weekend, and I will add a "rotax-list" to the line up. Thanks
>>> for the suggestion!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK-III ---- Classic flaps or Flaperons ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
rswiderski(at)earthlink.n wrote:
> But if you are out for getting the ultimate performance in
> climb, accelerated descent & slow flight, then flaperons will beat out flaps
> every time because unlike flaps, they can change the coefficient of lift
> over the entire wing, therefore have the greatest effect as well.
>
You are very correct rswiderski, I design and build large Radio control planes,
and every last one of them has full span Flapperons. There is no denying the
performance of them is awesome. Changing the shape of the entire wing is more
effective than changing the shape of just the inboard part. The big unknown
for me on the Kolb was, are the spoilerons the same chord as the flaps and ailerons
?? and how much control authority is built into them ?? I know what the
ideal is, but the real world results of each one is what really counts in the
end. That is why I ignored what the ideal situation is and I asked people
what their real world results are.
The cord and travel of the flapperons be redesigned, and made with the same chord
and authority as the ailerons, but that is quite a huge job and there are always
unknowns in doing something like that. I just was not willing to take that
much of a risk and make that big of a design change. The control forces could
have become very large, and even flutter might have been an issue. The Kolb
MK-III flys very well, and im not willing to risk these things, and the realiability
of the existing and tested design just to have larger spoilerons.
Also an issue is that with two controls going to the same control surface, the
chance of jamming or failure is increased. And you do not want to lose the
ailerons in a Kolb.
Given all the extra work in fabricating, the inability to change it back once it
was done, and all the other possible risks, I was not willing to be the test
case here. It was either the stock Flapperons, or the Stock Flaps and Ailerons.
Given the choice between those two, the overwhelming consensus is for the
classic flaps.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: firefly flaperons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Ed,
you have plenty of runway. Here Is what I would do. Ignore the flaperons for your
first takeoff. Concentrate on getting used to more immideate things. before
you come down for that first landing, try the flaperong handle and see the effect
it has on the FFly. Mainly the change in attitude it gives you. Then...when
you see what it does...give it a try , or dont. It wont change things that
much fopr you since you dont know what it is gonna take to land it anyway. Just
remember, DONT pul the throttle all the way back on final. You will be landing
that FireFly with probably half throttle and resist the temptation to lower
it past half on the landing..only when the wheels are down will you pull it
the rest of the way back. After you see just how fast that bird slows down at
1/2 throttle...and you make a couple of landings....or maybe 6....then you can
start to experiment at trying to bring it in at a slower speed. Flaperons or
not..
Good luck...you will get to love that little hot-rod!
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Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Once again people just don't get it.
I believe the Rotax list would not be for JUST Kolb. If I'm not mistaken
don't other aircraft use Rotax engines???? I could be wrong!
Mike
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax List ????????????????
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Say, let's have a MkIIIc forum, and a MkIIIx forum, and a Firestar
forum, and a Firefly forum, oops, nearly forgot, a Firestar 2 forum,
and maybe a Kolb-gear-leg forum.... bleh
Diluting the topics is NOT a good idea.
-- Robert
On 1/21/06, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> Matt Dralle wrote:
> > True. No one every asked for a Rotax List. Seems like a great idea.
I'll be adding a couple of other lists as well, hopefully this weekend, and
I will add a "rotax-list" to the line up. Thanks for the suggestion!
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax List ???????????????? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave G" <dgmodels@consolidated.net>
Michael Sharp wrote:
> Once again people just don't get it.
>
> I believe the Rotax list would not be for JUST Kolb. If I'm not mistaken
> don't other aircraft use Rotax engines???? I could be wrong!
>
> Mike
>
> --
Hi Mike. There's already an engine forum on Matt's list. Maybe it needs spruced
up a bit.? There is some really good info there. It dosent have the traffic
like the plane forums but engine guru's do check it once in a while.
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