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1. 02:14 AM - Re: Re: firebug, jetpilot (pat ladd)
2. 02:38 AM - Re: Re: firebug, jetpilot (JW Hauck)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (Bob Dalton)
4. 05:31 AM - What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (firebug)
5. 06:14 AM - Re: Two seater needed... (Blumax008@aol.com)
6. 06:16 AM - Re: unhappy with forum (Paul Petty)
7. 06:20 AM - Re: First flight (Beauford)
8. 06:22 AM - Re: Two seater needed... (Paul Petty)
9. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Thanks Paul! Got it!...Bill C. (Blumax008@aol.com)
10. 06:29 AM - Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (Don G)
11. 06:33 AM - Battles worth fighting (Todd Fredricks)
12. 06:36 AM - Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? (Paul Petty)
13. 07:12 AM - Re: Shoulder straps too loose (pat ladd)
14. 07:13 AM - Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (John Jung)
15. 07:53 AM - Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (David.Lehman)
16. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Flying Pictures (John Hauck)
17. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: First flight (pat ladd)
18. 08:25 AM - My Post From Yesterday (JetPilot)
19. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (John Hauck)
20. 08:39 AM - Re: Battles worth fighting (pat ladd)
21. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (ray anderson)
22. 09:25 AM - Re: My Post From Yesterday (Todd Fredricks)
23. 09:35 AM - Re: First flight (DAquaNut@aol.com)
24. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Two seater needed... (HShack@aol.com)
25. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Two seater needed... (John Hauck)
26. 09:49 AM - Re: First flight (John Hauck)
27. 09:55 AM - Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? (firebug)
28. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Flying Pictures (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
29. 10:33 AM - Re: unhappy with forum (Thom Riddle)
30. 11:56 AM - Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (David.Lehman)
31. 01:11 PM - Re: Re: Two seater needed... (KolbTwinstar@AOL.COM)
32. 02:19 PM - Animated Weather pictures software (Noel)
33. 02:25 PM - Re: Animated Weather pictures software (Noel)
34. 02:32 PM - Firestar VNE and flutter questions (firebug)
35. 02:38 PM - How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? (firebug)
36. 02:38 PM - Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? (Beauford)
37. 02:49 PM - Re: Fly-by ( not Kolb ) (Mike Pierzina)
38. 02:57 PM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
39. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: First flight (Terry Frantz)
40. 03:06 PM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
41. 04:18 PM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Hauck)
42. 04:33 PM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Hauck)
43. 05:42 PM - Re: First flight (Don G)
44. 05:56 PM - Re: unhappy with forum (Don G)
45. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Two seater needed... (Denny Rowe)
46. 06:36 PM - Old stuff seen flying (Robert Noyer)
47. 06:56 PM - Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions (Ralph)
48. 07:31 PM - Excalibur (Robert Noyer)
49. 08:00 PM - Re: Flying Pictures (Bob Dalton)
50. 08:39 PM - Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions (HShack@aol.com)
51. 09:07 PM - Re: egt (DAquaNut@aol.com)
52. 09:08 PM - Re: How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? (R. Hankins)
53. 09:46 PM - Re: egt (jdmurr@juno.com)
54. 09:50 PM - Re: Re: How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? (jdmurr@juno.com)
55. 09:58 PM - Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (jdmurr@juno.com)
56. 10:07 PM - non brs save (Steve Garvelink)
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| Subject: | Re: firebug, jetpilot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Im starting to learn the rules here, slowly>>
Hi,
slowly is the operative word. No one is interested any more in how this
spat started or who is in the right. The RULES are `do not flame`.
Pack it in for heavens sake. All it takes is for just one of you, no one
cares which one, to let the other guy have the last word and just DO NOT
REPLY.
C`mon guys. Grow up.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: firebug, jetpilot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
JetPilot;
Do believe the Moron that you refer to, is you. If I ain't too Moronish, I
believe you fired the first salvo when you attacked Firebug of why he
removed the fabric from a perfectly good airplane. and then it escalated
from there. The hypocritical loudmouth I belive in the case is you also, as
you seem to forget who attacked whom.
As for being a spineless fool, I'll stack my life time experience up to
yours and we will see who is spineless.
I personally think you are loudmouth spoiled brat that goes and sits on the
pity potty and pouts when you don't get your way.
If you believe that being a jet pilot makes you some kind of hero, and
smarter than everyone else in the world you need to take a hand full of
smart pills and see what the real world is about.
Maybe you should consider building something besides a Kolb, as there is a
bunch of this Old Spineless Moron Fool in those planes. I feel sure that
you wouldn't feel safe flying with the Spineless Moron Fool items in it.
Jim Hauck
On 1/24/2006 11:15:50 AM, kolb-list@matronics.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
> Im starting to learn the rules here, slowly, but im getting it. We can
> attack and bash someone publically in the forum and then just say Im over
> it, and that makes everything ok. I can live with that, and I will keep
> my post in the spirit of what you guys are advocating.
>
> Those of you that are supporting public attacks in this fourm, and are
> standing up in support of it, you are idiots. For those of you that are
> just "tired of hearing about it" you are spineless fools without the
> courage to stand up for what is right.
>
> Im tired of hearing morons telling me just to "shut up" and take it, while
> supporting the worst personal attack I have ever seen here. You are
> worthless hipocritical loudmouths.
>
> Now SHUT UP and dont complain, because Im am tired of hearing it....
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6449#6449
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
Good Morning all,
I have been enjoying the posting of everyone's favorite pictures. I would like
to add a couple from MV04'. I had the opportunity to fly with some talented and
great people. Missed MV05' but should be able to make it this year. Boyd Young
was my first Kolb flight, thanks Boyd! I will try to later post a short video
clip of Boyd landing at MV which is really cool!
Thanks guy's!
Bob Dalton
(still lurkin!)
Manteca, CA
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Bob Dalton
Manteca, Ca.
wiserguy@comcast.net
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| Subject: | What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
Can someone explain the benefits or negatives of the FireStar KXP compared to the
FS, if there are any. Thanks for everyones response to my recent posts.
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| Subject: | Re: Two seater needed... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
Hey Guys!
New member. Nice to see that "nastiness" is alive & well here on the Kolb
list like most other sites. Nothing like a little hate to keep things
interesting.
Just bought Bruce Harrison's 3rd. Kolb off eBay. Been flying U/L's since '79
beginning with a canard-less "Terror-Dactyl." I'm one of the few left alive
to tell about it. Then Quicksilvers, Wizards, Maxair....great photo plane
that Maxair, will do some incredible things. Now Kolbs.
Also have a Trike out front with a bulletproof 503 Rotax. Over 1,200 hours
on that Rotax without an overhaul. I'm a firm believer in the old axiom: "if it
ain't broke, don't fix it."
I would have to say the Maxair is the most "funner" while the Kolb is fun
but the most practical. I use it for aerial photography here on the
soon-to-be-overdeveloped coast of northwest Florida south of Tallahassee.
Bruce did a great job on modifying the windshield. I can light a cigar on
the way to the aerial photo site. Yeah, I know there's 10 gallons of gas 2 feet
behind me but I like to live dangerously.
Do any of you guys know of anyone wanting to sell one of those newfangled
side-by-side two seater Kolbs? Twinstars or something like that? An old one
would suffice. Any help sincerely appreciated & thanks for listening to my BS.
I'm 58. I've got a 21 year old wife wanting to learn to fly. She's 8 months
pregnant with my first child! Can you believe I went to Catholic school for nine
years!? The Nuns would have me for lunch!
Sincerely,
Bill Catalina
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| Subject: | Re: unhappy with forum |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net>
Matt/all,
I for one love the new forum. At a glance I can view what's interesting to me and
skip the rest. And no longer have to "delete delete delete". Like vortex generators
and the jetjock/firebug war. Nothing of intrest to me there so dont have
to read it nor delete it :D
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Brother Diebel:
Hearty congrats on your first flight...! Funny how one short little
airplane ride can instantly make
all the months of hard work, inconvenience and frustration just seem to
vanish, eh?
Enjoy your pretty little bird.
Beauford
FF#076
P.S. Started on your trailer yet? Will be looking for you over here with
that thing before long...
b.
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> do not archive
>
>:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
> >
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Well I finally did it! After several years of building plane and
> > enclosed trailer I committed aviation in Firefly # O62. > >
> > > >
> > Ed Diebel ( flying Firefly #O62 and not
still
> > building.)
> > Houston, Texas
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Two seater needed... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net>
I like this guy allready! I say a mechanic ain't a mechanic is he cant' stare down
a four barrel carb with a lit marlboro in his mouth! Seriously Here again
I will send you to John Cooley. He has a beautiful twinstar for sell. Firebug
inquired about his firestar yesterday. Call me if you want Johns info 601-480-9979.
Sheesh I need to hit John up for commision!
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks Paul! Got it!...Bill C. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
Your neighbor up here in redneck country.
Bill Catalina
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John J,
You are taxing my poor memory John...(grin).....but I had those VGs from 14 back
from the leading edge...to 6 inchs back..measured with a square..not around
the airfoil. I also tryed a staggered pattern...and a chevron pattern...with the
outboard VGs aft and the inboard fore. Neither of these worked worth a dang
BTW. NOw I have the landshorters on permenant...all my moveing around was with
the alum vgs John , as the little LS VGs couldnt hardly be applied with tape.
As I mentioned...mine are a little farther back than LS recommended. They had
a spec...which I cannot remember..but was a % of the chord from the LE..when
I calculated this, it was at the foremost of the testing I did..and knew I wanted
a higher ROC than a lower stall and set the LS vgs back a bit..I think about
10 or 11 inchs..I will measure them when I get over to the hangar sometime.
I guess I oughtta go see if the flag fly is still there! Been working on this
old Luscombe in what spare time I have.
--------
Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Battles worth fighting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
You know, a year ago, well about 7 months ago a good friend of mine, a kid
who I held as a baby, left his leg and a fair amount of blood on a road I
had traveled the year before. A place called Taji, north of Baghdad. All he
was doing was providing a security escort for some water trucks or milk
trucks or something, doesn't really matter, fact is I visited him at Walter
Reed and here is this fine young man missing his right leg at 25 years old.
Make a long story short, I am so happy that my 172 is about to sell because
I can now look forward to a deposit on a Mark III and adventures that might
only poorly match the likes of others on this list. But I have all my parts,
everything still works reasonably well, I live in a country where I don't
have to appease some descendent of a feudal lord to be granted the grand
privilege of flying about anywhere I want and I am surrounded by fellow
Americans.
Point is, there are battles worth fighting and this isn't one of them.
Really, trust me on this. In another month no one will remember fabric on
tubes or not, they will remember hard feelings between members of the same
team. There are much larger dragons to focus on.
My two cents worth.
Mountain Fox 8, out.
On 1/24/06 12:07 PM, "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
>
> JetPilot;
>
> Do believe the Moron that you refer to, is you. If I ain't too Moronish, I
> believe you fired the first salvo when you attacked Firebug of why he
> removed the fabric from a perfectly good airplane. and then it escalated
> from there. The hypocritical loudmouth I belive in the case is you also, as
> you seem to forget who attacked whom.
>
> As for being a spineless fool, I'll stack my life time experience up to
> yours and we will see who is spineless.
>
> I personally think you are loudmouth spoiled brat that goes and sits on the
> pity potty and pouts when you don't get your way.
>
> If you believe that being a jet pilot makes you some kind of hero, and
> smarter than everyone else in the world you need to take a hand full of
> smart pills and see what the real world is about.
>
> Maybe you should consider building something besides a Kolb, as there is a
> bunch of this Old Spineless Moron Fool in those planes. I feel sure that
> you wouldn't feel safe flying with the Spineless Moron Fool items in it.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/24/2006 11:15:50 AM, kolb-list@matronics.com wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Im starting to learn the rules here, slowly, but im getting it. We can
>> attack and bash someone publically in the forum and then just say Im over
>> it, and that makes everything ok. I can live with that, and I will keep
>> my post in the spirit of what you guys are advocating.
>>
>> Those of you that are supporting public attacks in this fourm, and are
>> standing up in support of it, you are idiots. For those of you that are
>> just "tired of hearing about it" you are spineless fools without the
>> courage to stand up for what is right.
>>
>> Im tired of hearing morons telling me just to "shut up" and take it, while
>> supporting the worst personal attack I have ever seen here. You are
>> worthless hipocritical loudmouths.
>>
>> Now SHUT UP and dont complain, because Im am tired of hearing it....
>>
>> --------
>> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
>> !!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6449#6449
>>
Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
POWERED BY MAC
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| Subject: | Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net>
Last weekend in september! See you there we hope
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder straps too loose |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
you andPossum would make a great team of story tellers writing for John
Houck's pictures and memoirs.>
Hi,
I think you mean me. If so I would jump at the chance if it would mean
hunkering down with John for a long period while the narrative was sorted
out. What stories one could garner during a period like that. What pearls of
wisdom. Probably make a book on its own.
Might be worth emigrating for.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
firebug wrote:
> Can someone explain the benefits or negatives of the FireStar KXP compared to
the FS, if there are any. Thanks for everyones response to my recent posts.
I will assume that by FS, you mean "original Firestar". The KXP uses a wing that
has a few more ribs, like the Firestar II and Mark II. I believe that the extra
ribs allow for a higher gross weight and VNE. The cage is also different.
The 447 was the largest engine recommended of an original while the KXP can handle
the 503.
I trust that someone will correct me if I am wrong.
If you are willing to live with a 70 mph VNE and a 447, the original is a great
plane. But after flying with a dual ignition 503, I would not want to fly with
a single ignition again.
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David.Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
John Jung wrote:
> If you are willing to live with a 70 mph VNE and a 447, the original is a great
plane. But after flying with a dual ignition 503, I would not want to fly with
a single ignition again.
Oops, I have the 5 rib wing with a single ignition 503, belt drive to boot!...
Are my days numbered? ;-) ...
Seriously, should I be concerned about this combination?...
DVD
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Any pilot can describe the mechanics of flying. What it can do for the spirit
of man is beyond description.
Barry M. Goldwater, US senator.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| Bob Dalton
Hi Bob D/Gang:
Good pic of John W. Put some more up. Be looking for you in May.
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Well I finally did it>>
Congratulations.
Pat
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| Subject: | My Post From Yesterday |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
To All members of the list:
I wrote a post yesterday that I should have never written. I had just read a profane
and offensive email from one of the guys and I responded in the forum while
I was still pretty hot about it. I use the new Forum format, and upon reading
my own post, decided it was not appropriate for the list and I almost immidately
erased it. What I did not realize is that it went to the old email
list even after I erased it here.
To all those that recieved it in email, I did not intend to get out, and it was
definately not something I am proud to have put on the list. I would like to
offer my sincere apology to all in the list for my very inappropriate post.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain |
FS?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
to boot!... Are my days numbered? ;-) ...
|
| Seriously, should I be concerned about this combination?...
|
| DVD
DVD/Gang:
If it were my 5 rib wing, I would fly it as a 5 rib wing, and not a 7
rib wing.
That wing was designed for a 377 Rotax. If built and flown within the
design envelope, should last forever.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
a country where I don't have to appease some descendent of a feudal lord
..>>
Hi Ted
Lovely, I laughed out loud. Thats beautiful. TYhere are not many of those
in the House of Lords these days. ***** Tony Blair has seen to that.
The Upper House tends to be filled by business men or those who have made
some extraordinary contribution to the Country. They are often very expert
in their field and best of all, as they are there for life, they can
actually say what needs saying without any fear of not being re elected next
time.
The Lower House (House of Commons) is populated by politicians who have
never held down a job in their lives except in politics and they are forever
looking over their shoulders for the latest change of opinion from the
public so that they can stay in office.
I certainly wish that we had some of your freedoms but I am very grateful
than when an ultrlight flies over my garden I know that the airframe won`t
fall apart and that the pilot will have had some training.
Cheers
.....some feudal Lord...LOL
Pat
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FS?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
David,
Just my personal thoughts. I have owned and flown many, many hours
with three 'store bought' aircraft with single ignition. Never a problem. I have
owned and ridden thousands and thousands of miles on four different motorcycles
with single ignition. Never a problem. I'm 88 and have driven too many miles
to put down here in autos, from Model T Fords to the present, all single ignition.
Never had one stop me beside the road with dead ignition. How many do
you see today pulled to the side of the road with dead ignition. Most autos
have high millage with no preventative maintenance we give our aircraft engines
and keep chugging along. My point, modern single ignition fright is far, far,
far over blown.
Proper belt drive with modern belt materials can be the smoothest transfer of
power you will find. Many motorcycles are now going to it. My Suzuki 650 has
it. Many automobiles use belt drive internally for various applications. Easy
on the engines transfer of power. Lots of old wives tales out there about both.
Ray ...... TN
UltraStar
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"David.Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David.Lehman"
John Jung wrote:
> If you are willing to live with a 70 mph VNE and a 447, the original is a great
plane. But after flying with a dual ignition 503, I would not want to fly with
a single ignition again.
Oops, I have the 5 rib wing with a single ignition 503, belt drive to boot!...
Are my days numbered? ;-) ...
Seriously, should I be concerned about this combination?...
DVD
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Any pilot can describe the mechanics of flying. What it can do for the spirit of
man is beyond description.
Barry M. Goldwater, US senator.
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| Subject: | Re: My Post From Yesterday |
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Been there done that. It is all in the perspective... ...now lets get back
to the airplanes!
Todd
On 1/25/06 11:25 AM, "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> To All members of the list:
>
> I wrote a post yesterday that I should have never written.
--
Todd Fredricks, DO
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 1/25/2006 8:20:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
P.S. Started on your trailer yet? Will be looking for you over here with
that thing before long...
Beauford,
I had to build a Trailer before I could take the Firefly to the airport.
I built one from Duane's bluprints and if I weren't so computer ignorant I
would have posted pictures. The weather here is sunny, bout 70* but a little
windy. I dont want to push my luck and fly in conditions I'm not ready for,but
I'm waitin to give Her another go.
Ed Diebel Do Not Archieve
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| Subject: | Re: Two seater needed... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 1/25/2006 9:16:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Blumax008@aol.com writes:
Do any of you guys know of anyone wanting to sell one of those newfangled
side-by-side two seater Kolbs? Twinstars or something like that? An old one
would suffice. Any help sincerely appreciated & thanks for listening to my
BS.
Bill, check our website www.trentonflyers.com ; then click on " for sale".
There's a really nice Twinstar or Mk II [not sure which] with no engine.
Located here in SC.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Two seater needed... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
newfangled
| side-by-side two seater Kolbs? Twinstars or something like that? An
old one
| would suffice. Any help sincerely appreciated & thanks for listening
to my
| BS.
|
|
| Bill, check our website www.trentonflyers.com ; then click on " for
sale".
| There's a really nice Twinstar or Mk II [not sure which] with no
engine.
| Located here in SC.
|
| Howard Shackleford
Bill C/Gang:
And there's a brand new 503 Rotax in Woodville, Fl, forsale to go with
it.
Call 850-421-1506.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I'm waitin to give Her another go.
|
|
| Ed Diebel Do Not Archieve
Hi Ed D/Gang:
Good on ya!!!
Glad you had a good first flight.
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
Do any of ya'll in the south get together and fly up. If I am able to purchase
a plane that will fly at comparable airspeeds with several of ya'll that would
be a hoot. We keep in touch.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Hmmmm, Geee, I wonder what State that was tooken at?????
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying Pictures
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> Roger and All,
>
> Most folks have seen by photos from years past, so how about one I just
> took this afternoon.
>
> --------
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolbra, 912ULS
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6571#6571
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I am still using the email distribution method and am very happy with
the enhancements. I can now view attached photos by merely clicking on
the link to the photo. Lots easier than the old "photoshare" method.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David.Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
rsanoa wrote:
> Lots of old wives tales out there about both.
> Ray ...... TN
> UltraStar
> Do not archive
Thanx Ray, good observations... I'm not suicidal, so I'll be careful all the same...
DVD
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Any pilot can describe the mechanics of flying. What it can do for the spirit
of man is beyond description.
Barry M. Goldwater, US senator.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: KolbTwinstar@aol.com
I have a Kolbtwinstar with a new rotax 503 engine. It has about 90 hrs. on
it.
I'd consider selling. I also have a 24 ft. fully enclosed trailer I might
sell with it if interested.
314-258-1061.
Tracy
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| Subject: | Animated Weather pictures software |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel" <noel@teledata.qc.ca>
Hello Group !
I am sending a little software that i developed a few years ago that
will download and animate some satellite weather picture from the
Canadian ministry of environment.
You can select:
- A map location (Easter Canada, Eastern US, etc)
- The map type (visible, Infra red, combo)
- The number of pictures to download
- The speed of the animation
Just unzip the Meteo.zip file to your hard drive and run it ...
Press the GET button to get and animate the picture .
The nice thing with it is that it is very easy and quick to use ...
just create a shortcut to it on your desktop and run it whenever
needed.
I hope you find it usefull ...
Noel Bouchard
Twinstar MKII
Montreal, Canada
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel" <noel@teledata.qc.ca>
Sorry the attachment doesn't seems to have been included ...
Try this URL:
http://www.cam.org/~noelbou/Meteo.zip
Matt ... Would it be possible to allow for .ZIP attachment ?
Nol
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| Subject: | Firestar VNE and flutter questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
I am trying to get a crash course here on the Firestars so I don't make another
mistake. First, the VNE on the original Firestar is 70 from what I understand.
Why is that? Is it due to possible flutter or is it simply the number of ribs
in the wing? Are there original Firestars that have a higher VNE than 70 if
so what do I need to look for to see if one I am interested in meets the standards?
What would YOU look for if you were interested in purchasing a Firestar.
Would you just buy a Firestar II instead of an Original?
Second, I have noticed that some Firestars have balanced ailerons. Can this be
retrofitted to an existing Firestar and if so how hard is it?
Ya'll are getting a workout with me and my questions. Thanks for the help.
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| Subject: | How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
How hard is it to fully inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? If it has the tall
windshield that comes up over head but stops before reaching the leading edge
of the wing would it be difficult to finish the glass and add the fabric. I
have built a clipped wing Challenger before so I do know how to do fabric work.
{GULP}
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| Subject: | Re: When is the Kolb fly in at their plant in Kentucky? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Brother Bug...
A noble sentiment, Sir... but I doubt there is anything currently passing
itself off as an airplane that
will fly at "comparable" airspeeds to my machine without endangering
innocents along the route of flight....
If'n I came in the Kleenex Kolb, my preliminary calculations indicate I
would have to get airborne
by early Thursday of next week to make London by September...
I cipher that to be a 92 county trip... My machine does one county per jug
of gas... not counting
the Lockwood factor.
I would not necessarily be hard against trying that trip, but I suspect that
the formidable Mrs. Beauford has some
chores in mind fer yours truly between now an then... not to mention the
time required
to disassemble the KK at London so the UPS guy can pick it up... (I wouldn't
want to try
that hoot twice in the same lifetime.. Mama always told me that self-abuse
was evil...)
In the South Beauford
FF#076
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
>
> Do any of ya'll in the south get together and fly up. If I am able to
purchase a plane that will fly at comparable airspeeds with several of ya'll
that would be a hoot. >
>
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fly-by ( not Kolb ) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I'm 6' 1" + .....After I bought the plans from Aircraft Spruce....I bought "Jim
Clemets" Modification Package.....and one of the modifications is changing the
overhead Tube, for more headroom....on the other end there's plenty of foot
room if the fuel tank is kept within reason....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Hi Kolb Flying Gang,
Here are some of the Kolbs (and a couple of odd balls) that I have had the privlege
to fly up close and personal with:
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
>Group,
>
> Well I finally did it! After several years of building plane and
>enclosed trailer I committed aviation in Firefly # O62. After 1 1/4 hours of
>flying and 4 landings my gear legs are perfectly straight. I was a little afraid,
> after all the talk of bent legs. I even managed to keep her off of her
>nose. I can see how it wouldn't take a lot to put Her over , though. She behaved
>better than I could hope for, although she will need some trim on the rudder
>,as I have to put some pressure on the left pedal. to keep Her straight
>Seems She stalls about 35 or so tops out at about 75 and climbs to a thousand
>feet by the time I make my base turn. Seems I burned about 3 gal in an hour and
>15 min. of flying. Started getting nippy as it was nearing sunset. I just
>had a light jacket, unenclosed at 1500 ft .
>
> Many Thanks to: Jack Hart, Beauford T, Don G., Duane DA Plane,
>Jerb, John W. and any others that I may have forgotten, for the advice,
>suggestions ,warnings, ideas and words of encouragement.
>
>
> Ed Diebel ( flying Firefly #O62 and not still
>building.)
> Houston, Texas
>
>
>
>
>
Ed,
Congratulations on completing and making your first flight in Your
FireFly. A whole world of new adventures await you with this great
piece of equipment. Welcome to the FireFly club!!!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
I found out that we have a maximum of ten attachments, so is her are the other
9 photos I intended to send with the first post.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Here are a few photos from Monument Valley 2005.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
More photos from MV 2005.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
WAY TO GO ED!
Congrats and Like Terry said..Welcome to the FireFly Club...the very BEST Kolb!!!!
(grin)
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Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: unhappy with forum |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
MAtt, I have not said anything about the new forum..but I think I oughtta...I agree
with Petty..and for the same reasons...O dont have to bother with threads
I am not interested in...or dont want to view..like the flames...
Much better..I like it alot...as you might have guessed because I sent in my wish
to be removed from the email distribution.
Now I dont have to accept crap from knotheads who have no internet manners...and..If
i want to Get Paul Petty educated on why he oughtta have Vortex Generators
on the Kolbra...I can still send him emails and nobody has to listen to me
try to bring him into the 21st century!... 8) (grin)
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Don G
FireFly#098
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| Subject: | Re: Two seater needed... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
My Hero, and another Dactyl Driver at that!
Welcome aboard.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3, Loehle Sport Parasol, and former Pterodactyl Ptraveler buillder and
flyer. And Steeler fan. ;-) Leechburg, PA
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From: <Blumax008@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Two seater needed...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> New member. Nice to see that "nastiness" is alive & well here on the Kolb
> list like most other sites. Nothing like a little hate to keep things
> interesting.
>
> Just bought Bruce Harrison's 3rd. Kolb off eBay. Been flying U/L's since
> '79
> beginning with a canard-less "Terror-Dactyl." I'm one of the few left
> alive
> to tell about it. Then Quicksilvers, Wizards, Maxair....great photo plane
> that Maxair, will do some incredible things. Now Kolbs.
>
> Also have a Trike out front with a bulletproof 503 Rotax. Over 1,200 hours
> on that Rotax without an overhaul. I'm a firm believer in the old axiom:
> "if it
> ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
> I would have to say the Maxair is the most "funner" while the Kolb is fun
> but the most practical. I use it for aerial photography here on the
> soon-to-be-overdeveloped coast of northwest Florida south of Tallahassee.
>
> Bruce did a great job on modifying the windshield. I can light a cigar on
> the way to the aerial photo site. Yeah, I know there's 10 gallons of gas
> 2 feet
> behind me but I like to live dangerously.
>
> Do any of you guys know of anyone wanting to sell one of those newfangled
> side-by-side two seater Kolbs? Twinstars or something like that? An old
> one
> would suffice. Any help sincerely appreciated & thanks for listening to my
> BS.
> I'm 58. I've got a 21 year old wife wanting to learn to fly. She's 8
> months
> pregnant with my first child! Can you believe I went to Catholic school
> for nine
> years!? The Nuns would have me for lunch!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bill Catalina
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Old stuff seen flying |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Here's an odd site that is good to see, and great for xc flying:
http://www.ohiobarns.com
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Site Map
Copyright
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Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Firebug,
The Vne for the Original Firestar is 80mph and that is very conservative as I've
had mine up to XX (I better not say without getting into trouble) without any
flutter. The Originals fly the best as I have flown all of them (probably because
they are lighter and have the true differential aileron throw with the two
bellcrank system).
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying
-- "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
I am trying to get a crash course here on the Firestars so I don't make another
mistake. First, the VNE on the original Firestar is 70 from what I understand.
Why is that? Is it due to possible flutter or is it simply the number of ribs
in the wing? Are there original Firestars that have a higher VNE than 70 if
so what do I need to look for to see if one I am interested in meets the standards?
What would YOU look for if you were interested in purchasing a Firestar.
Would you just buy a Firestar II instead of an Original?
Second, I have noticed that some Firestars have balanced ailerons. Can this be
retrofitted to an existing Firestar and if so how hard is it?
Ya'll are getting a workout with me and my questions. Thanks for the help.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Is there a list/forum for Excalibur? One of the quacks I saw today is
bldg Excalibur, and looking for a list. Got one, Matt?
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
John H. and All,
John nice to hear from you, glad you enjoyed the MV pics. Here are a couple more.
John W. and all keep-em coming, I always enjoy seeing your pics. See ya MV2006'.
Bob Dalton
Manteca, CA
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Bob Dalton
Manteca, Ca.
wiserguy@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 1/25/2006 5:32:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gcc1964@mon-cre.net writes:
I am trying to get a crash course here on the Firestars so I don't make
another mistake. First, the VNE on the original Firestar is 70 from what I
understand. Why is that? Is it due to possible flutter or is it simply the number
of
ribs in the wing? Are there original Firestars that have a higher VNE than 70
if so what do I need to look for to see if one I am interested in meets the
standards? What would YOU look for if you were interested in purchasing a
Firestar. Would you just buy a Firestar II instead of an Original.
One thing to consider is fuel capacity. The KXP is a very nice plane, but
only calls for a 5 gallon tank.
Not sure about the original FS, but my Kolb is gonna have a 10 gal. tank.
If you really don't want to go very far, then 5 may do.
I highly recommend the FS II with a 503DCDI.
.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
List,
On my first flight my exhaust got up to 1200 if I flew between 4200- 5200
rpm. I moved the clip down one notch, but it still goes up to 1200* Should I
move the clip down another notch.
Ed Diebel ( 447 Firefly)
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| Subject: | Re: How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
My personal preference is to stick with the partial enclosure. I have the old
style tall windshield and built some half doors that come back far enough to stop
the wind, but not enough to prevent a clear view and good pictures. I fly
12 months out of the year here in Oregon. You should be fine unless you want
to fly in weather colder than about 15 degrees F. Even then it's not bad for
an hour or so.
Roger in Oregon
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
I have a video tape from CPS that was done in Oshkosh in 1989. This is from the
notes I took.
EGT should be at 1200 @ Full throttle. (6,250 rpm). Never exceed 1400. Your clips
effect the mixture at 3/4 to full throttle not 4,200-5,200 rpm which is why
there is no change in temp.
CHT should run 300-325. Max 400-425. However the lower the better is the rule.
This is an indication of adequate lubrication.
If your readings are out of the above tolerances pull the plugs and see if it is
rich or lean before changing the mixture. Double check your oil mixture and
oil type. This can effect temperatures too.
My 503 runs at 1200 in the range you state above, but cools down a little at full
throttle. CHT is a little less than 300. I'm happy with this and the engine
seems happy too!
They also said it is hard to damage an engine at less than full throttle which
is why the full throttle readings are most important.
If you still aren't sure call CPS and they can help you.
Hope this helps.
John Murr
-- DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
List,
On my first flight my exhaust got up to 1200 if I flew between 4200- 5200
rpm. I moved the clip down one notch, but it still goes up to 1200* Should I
move the clip down another notch.
Ed Diebel ( 447 Firefly)
I have a video tape from CPS that was done in Oshkosh in 1989. This is from the
notes I took.
EGT should be at 1200 @ Full throttle. (6,250 rpm).Never exceed 1400.Your clips
effect the mixture at 3/4 to full throttle not 4,200-5,200 rpm which is why there
is no change in temp.
CHT should run 300-325. Max 400-425. However the lower the better is the rule.
This is an indication of adequate lubrication.
If your readings are out of the above tolerances pull the plugs and see if it is
rich or lean before changing the mixture. Double check your oil mixture and
oil type. This can effect temperatures too.
My 503 runs at 1200 in the range you state above, but cools down a little at full
throttle. CHT is a little less than 300. I'm happy with this and the engine
seems happy too!
They also said it is hard to damage an engine at less than full throttle which
is why the full throttle readings are most important.
If you still aren't sure call CPS and they can help you.
Hope this helps.
John Murr
--DAquaNut@aol.comwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:DAquaNut@aol.com
List,
Onmyfirstflightmyexhaustgotupto1200ifIflewbetween4200-5200
rpm.Imovedtheclipdownonenotch,butitstillgoesupto1200*ShouldI
movetheclipdownanothernotch.
EdDiebel(447Firefly)
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| Subject: | Re: How hard to inclose a partially inclosed Firestar? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
I've had my Firestar since last July with a full enclosure. Right now I'm glad
I have it. When it gets warmer out I'm going to put a shorter version for better
visability and picture taking. In 30 deg. F. weather it is still cold after
2 hours even though I get teased about sitting in a "green house"
John Murr
-- "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
My personal preference is to stick with the partial enclosure. I have the old
style tall windshield and built some half doors that come back far enough to stop
the wind, but not enough to prevent a clear view and good pictures. I fly
12 months out of the year here in Oregon. You should be fine unless you want
to fly in weather colder than about 15 degrees F. Even then it's not bad for
an hour or so.
Roger in Oregon
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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I've had my Firestar since last July with a full enclosure. Right now I'm glad
I have it. When it gets warmer out I'm going to put a shorter version for better
visability and picture taking. In 30 deg. F. weather it is still cold after
2 hours even though I get teased about sitting in a "green house"
John Murr
--"R.Hankins"rphanks@grantspass.comwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"R.Hankins"rphanks@grantspass.com
Mypersonalpreferenceistostickwiththepartialenclosure.Ihavetheoldstyletallwindshieldandbuiltsomehalfdoorsthatcomebackfarenoughtostopthewind,butnotenoughtopreventaclearviewandgoodpictures.Ifly12monthsoutoftheyearhereinOregon.Youshouldbefineunlessyouwanttoflyinweathercolderthanabout15degreesF.Eventhenit'snotbadforanhourorso.
RogerinOregon
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1992KXP503
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| Subject: | Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
First and foremost I love my Firestar.
I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has experience
with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's say
they both have 582's in them.
OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
John Murr
First and foremost I love my Firestar.
I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has experience
with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's say
they both have 582's in them.
OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
John Murr
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Ray, this is the location that you can download the video that you sent me. (non
BRS Save)
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