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1. 02:59 AM - Re: Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (pat ladd)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: On Motor Longevity (Blumax008@AOL.com)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (David Lehman)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: egt (Richard Pike)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: VORTEX GENERATORS (Jeremy Casey)
6. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (pat ladd)
7. 06:32 AM - Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions (John Jung)
8. 06:35 AM - Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? (Jeremy Casey)
9. 06:53 AM - Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (Larry Bourne)
10. 06:57 AM - Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (David Key)
11. 07:19 AM - Re: egt (John Hauck)
12. 08:05 AM - Re: egt (jdmurr@juno.com)
13. 08:20 AM - Re: non brs save (Steve Garvelink)
14. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: non brs save (Chris Mallory)
15. 08:41 AM - Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (Robert Laird)
16. 08:57 AM - Re: egt (Richard Pike)
17. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: non brs save (pat ladd)
18. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: non brs save (David Lehman)
19. 10:00 AM - Re: Proper Jets (DAquaNut@aol.com)
20. 10:13 AM - Re: Proper Jets (John Hauck)
21. 11:01 AM - Re: Proper Jets (Richard Pike)
22. 11:17 AM - Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (jdmurr@juno.com)
23. 11:25 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
24. 11:28 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
25. 11:30 AM - Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 (Robert Laird)
26. 11:33 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
27. 11:35 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
28. 11:39 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
29. 11:41 AM - Re: Flying Pictures (John Williamson)
30. 12:46 PM - EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators (Tom O'Hara)
31. 01:27 PM - Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators (Chris Mallory)
32. 02:05 PM - E-LSA vs E-amateur built (Lanny Fetterman)
33. 02:16 PM - Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators (Tom O'Hara)
34. 03:45 PM - list (russ kinne)
35. 04:17 PM - Re: list (JetPilot)
36. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: list (Chris Mallory)
37. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: list (Kolbdriver)
38. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: list (russ kinne)
39. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: list (Beauford)
40. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Flying Pictures (Larry Bourne)
41. 05:59 PM - long but Worth the read (Chris Mallory)
42. 06:30 PM - Re: long but Worth the read (flht99reh)
43. 06:31 PM - Re: list (JetPilot)
44. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: list (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
45. 06:49 PM - Re: long but Worth the read (George E. Myers Jr.)
46. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: list (Chris Mallory)
47. 06:56 PM - A big favor please Matt ? (Eugene Zimmerman)
48. 07:15 PM - Re: Proper Jets (DAquaNut@aol.com)
49. 07:23 PM - NON BSR SAVE (Steve Garvelink)
50. 07:27 PM - Re: long but Worth the read (Wayne T. McCullough)
51. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: list (DAquaNut@aol.com)
52. 07:43 PM - Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds (DAquaNut@aol.com)
53. 07:43 PM - center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! (Gary r. voigt)
54. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators (David Key)
55. 08:03 PM - Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
56. 08:21 PM - winter flying on lake minnetonka... (Gary r. voigt)
57. 08:40 PM - Re: long but Worth the read (Robert Noyer)
58. 08:58 PM - Fw: winter flying on lake minnetonka... (Gary r. voigt)
59. 09:02 PM - Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds (DAquaNut@aol.com)
60. 09:06 PM - Re: long but Worth the read (John Hauck)
61. 09:12 PM - Re: NON BSR SAVE (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain |
FS?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
single ignition 503, belt drive to boot!...
Hi Dave,
thats what I have had on my Challenger for a number of years. Not a great
number of hours but it has been no trouble. I HAVE had trouble with the
toothed belt drive. The belts have shed their teeth twice, leaving the
engine screaming and the prop idling, and me on my way down into the nearest
field. No idea what causes it, might be just my particular set up, but I
change belts at about 25 hours now. The engine has been fine.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: On Motor Longevity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
In a message dated 1/26/2006 12:46:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jdmurr@juno.com writes:
My 503 runs at 1200 in the range you state above, but cools down a little at
full throttle. CHT is a little less than 300.
That was a quote by Mr. Murr on the list. That's exactly what I get with my
503 that I've taken (and still take) well over 1,200 hours with only 3 tops. I
use Amoco Super Premium & Pennzoil 2-sicle for air breathers. I would
honestly say that 50% of those hours are wide open, full throttle towing hang
gliders. I do change plugs at 25 hours.
I also took a 582 mounted on my Maxair on Full Lotus floats to over 1,200
hours. Most of that time was at high power settings hauling the floats &
sometimes a passenger. My biggest mistake was listening to other people telling
me
I should overhaul it. I did. Over the next 2 months I had 4 engine failures
landing in everything from sugar cane fields to cow pastures.
There's a story behing that however...When we overhauled it, we changed the
motor from it's standard upside-down position (Maxair standard mount) to a
rightside-up position to swing a bigger prop. We neglected to change the
position of the little crankcase oil supply tank.
Just food for thought...
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain |
FS?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
Thanx Pat...
Just my luck, I have a cog (toothed) belt...
Where do you purchase new belts?...
DVD
On 1/26/06, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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> single ignition 503, belt drive to boot!...
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> Hi Dave,
>
> thats what I have had on my Challenger for a number of years. Not a great
> number of hours but it has been no trouble. I HAVE had trouble with the
> toothed belt drive. The belts have shed their teeth twice, leaving the
> engine screaming and the prop idling, and me on my way down into the
> nearest
> field. No idea what causes it, might be just my particular set up, but I
> change belts at about 25 hours now. The engine has been fine.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Maybe, probably not. What is your static rpm, climbout rpm, and rpm at
full throttle in level flight?
If your full throttle rpm is over 65-6600, crank more pitch into the
prop until it gets down to 6600 or a hair less. That will drop the EGT's.
EGT's will rise and fall as you change the prop loading. There is much
on this topic in the archives.
Also you can check this page on how to read spark plugs, and how to
adjust the Rotax for different CHT and EGT readings.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg11.htm
Rotax dealers like CPS and LEAF used to specify higher EGT's than they
do now. I still have their older material and it has different numbers
than they currently specify.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
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>List,
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> On my first flight my exhaust got up to 1200 if I flew between 4200- 5200
>rpm. I moved the clip down one notch, but it still goes up to 1200* Should I
>move the clip down another notch.
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> Ed Diebel ( 447 Firefly)
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| Subject: | Re: VORTEX GENERATORS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
<snip>
I stuck one on my car
windshield for a week before I ever put them on my plane - just to
make sure they would stay in place and to make sure I could take them
off if I didn't like them. They "may" work just as well at 11 inches
back as they do at 11% of the cord. I don't know, I didn't have to
move mine. If your not Very impressed at what they do, I would not
leave them on your plane. It's not something that you would have to
wonder if they're working or not - you will definitely know the
difference. Especially on take off - when you go full throttle and
just keep easing the stick back. Your nose just keeps going up and up
- your speed keeps going down and down - and it just doesn't stall.
Neat!!
<snip>
Hey Possum...just have to know...did it help gas mileage on your car???
;-)
Jeremy Casey
Mutant Kolb builder...(like you)
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| Subject: | Re: What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain |
FS?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Where do you purchase new belts?...>>
Hi David,
I get mine from an auto parts store which happens to specialise in belts of
all shapes and sizes. I suspect that I should buy them from an `approved
supplier` and get a certicate with each one but that sort of thing won`t
matter in the US.
It really is no problem. The belts are cheap and fitted in a few minutes.
There do not seem to be any telltales that the belt is getting weak.Just be
aware .
The first time it happened to me I took several seconds to sort out what was
going on from the fact that the speed was dropping and the engine was
speeding up. The second time I of course recognised the symptoms quickly and
had the engine
switched off in jig time.
In the case of engines playing up I reckon it is better to kill the engine
completely or as sure as the Lord made little green apples the darn thing
will start up and run for ten seconds just as you have your glide approach
pinned down.
Cheers up. It may never happen
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar VNE and flutter questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
firebug wrote:
> I am trying to get a crash course here on the Firestars so I don't make another
mistake.
Firebug,
I have owned an original Firestar and a Firestar II. The biggest difference is
the ability to carry a passenger. Being able to carry 10 gallons is right up there,
too. Another difference to me is the seat. The original had a comfortable
seat and I had to design my own seat to get the Firestar II to be as comfortable.
I previously mentioned that I like a 503.
An original could be a good deal is the condition is good and the price is right.
It just depends on how you want to use it. If you plan to add more engine,
your going to want more gas. Once you start flying faster you will want to make
other changes, and you may wish that you had just bought the II in the first
place. So, decide now, how fast do you want to go. Then buy the plane that best
meets your needs.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6966#6966
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| Subject: | What are the differences between FS KXP and the plain FS? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
Can someone explain the benefits or negatives of the FireStar KXP
compared to the FS, if there are any. Thanks for everyones response to
my recent posts.
<snip>
If by plain FS you mean the original Firestar then the differences
aren't to many...the KX and KXP are basically original Firestars except
they have the side tubes of the cockpit lowered to ease entry and exit.
I believe they were beefed up somewhat in the cage to handle the bigger
engines. If I recall the original Firestar was limited to a 447. The
KXP was OK'd with a 503 thanks to the 7 rib wing, where the KX had a 5
rib wing and was limited to a 447.
Only reason I even threw the "KX" into the mix is because some folks
don't realize that there was a difference there...so if the seller calls
it a KXP, be sure and count the full ribs...7 is KXP (503 OK) 5 ribs is
KX (447 max...)
Jeremy Casey
KXP-based mutant Kolb builder
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I don't see any other comments, and my own experience with these is very
limited, but for what it's worth, I've flown in several Mk III's, had some
stick time, and found them to be very stable and forgiving. They go where
you put them and stay there. Just a little less than an hour in an S-12/912
a few years ago, and it flew fine, but wandered constantly, and needed
constant small corrections. Seems like it was twitchy to rudder and
elevator inputs, too. For comparison, I have several hundred hours in
various Cessnas, 12 hours in a Merlin, (which would now be considered a
Light Sport Aircraft) 1 Mooney, 1 Piper, 1 Piper Cub, 1 Aeronca Champ, and
several ultralights. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <jdmurr@juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
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> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who
> has experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast
> them? Let's say they both have 582's in them.
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in
> them?
> John Murr
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> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
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> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who
> has experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast
> them? Let's say they both have 582's in them.
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>
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in
> them?
>
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> John Murr
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| Subject: | Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I ask the same question to someone that has flown both. I only have
experience with the Mark III and loved it. He said that the s-12 had larger
gas tanks so more range, that there was much more room to store things since
the tanks are in the wings, and the alerions were much lighter than the Mark
III's.
>From: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12
>Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:57:02 GMT
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
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>
>First and foremost I love my Firestar.
>I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who
>has experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them?
>Let's say they both have 582's in them.
>OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in
>them?
>John Murr
>
>
>First and foremost I love my Firestar.
>
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>I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who
>has experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them?
>Let's say they both have 582's in them.
>
>
>OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in
>them?
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>John Murr
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| If you still aren't sure call CPS and they can help you.
| John Murr
Hi John M/Gang:
Today we can get the lastest info right off Kodiak Research's web
site. I think it might be best to go with genuine Rotax limits rather
than a dealer's old video. But that is only my humble opinion.
Current Operator's Handbook for the 503 indicates:
Normal EGT: 860F to 1,000F
Max EGT: 1,200F with difference between cyls: 43F
Normal CHT: 350F to 430F
Max CHT: 480F with difference between cyls: 34F
I have much better luck tuning the prop to the engine and airplane,
especially two strokes, since they are so vulernable to loading. The
engineers at Rotax set up the engines to operate without retuning the
engine. Except in extreme cases, rejetting should not have to be
done. Temp changes from summer to winter, etc, can usually be taken
care of by raising or lowering the clip on the fuel needle.
This goes for changing spark plug heat range also.
All the manuals are available right here for free:
http://www.kodiakbs.com/tiintro.htm
john h
MKIII
titus, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
The video also said max rpm should be 6,250. So if I'm getting 6,600, which I
am, and 1,200 EGT and 300 CHT, perhaps I need to add some pitch, get the rpms
down to 6,300 to reduce the EGT and increase the CHT to the ranges you noted?
Also I only go full throttle at take off for less than a minute and I'm at least
1,000 AGL. Usually I run 4,500-4,800 rpm. 5,200-5,500 rpm if I need to get
some where.
I have a 503 DCDI
John Murr
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| If you still aren't sure call CPS and they can help you.
| John Murr
Hi John M/Gang:
Today we can get the lastest info right off Kodiak Research's web
site. I think it might be best to go with genuine Rotax limits rather
than a dealer's old video. But that is only my humble opinion.
Current Operator's Handbook for the 503 indicates:
Normal EGT: 860F to 1,000F
Max EGT: 1,200F with difference between cyls: 43F
Normal CHT: 350F to 430F
Max CHT: 480F with difference between cyls: 34F
I have much better luck tuning the prop to the engine and airplane,
especially two strokes, since they are so vulernable to loading. The
engineers at Rotax set up the engines to operate without retuning the
engine. Except in extreme cases, rejetting should not have to be
done. Temp changes from summer to winter, etc, can usually be taken
care of by raising or lowering the clip on the fuel needle.
This goes for changing spark plug heat range also.
All the manuals are available right here for free:
http://www.kodiakbs.com/tiintro.htm
john h
MKIII
titus, alabama
The video also said max rpm should be 6,250. So if I'm getting 6,600, which I am,
and 1,200 EGT and 300 CHT, perhaps I need to add some pitch, get the rpms down
to 6,300to reduce the EGT and increase the CHT to the ranges you noted?
Also I only go full throttle at take off for less than a minute and I'm at least
1,000 AGL. Usually I run 4,500-4,800 rpm. 5,200-5,500 rpm if I need to get some
where.
I have a 503 DCDI
John Murr
--"JohnHauck"jhauck@elmore.rr.comwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"JohnHauck"jhauck@elmore.rr.com
|IhaveavideotapefromCPSthatwasdoneinOshkoshin1989.
|Ifyoustillaren'tsurecallCPSandtheycanhelpyou.
|JohnMurr
HiJohnM/Gang:
TodaywecangetthelastestinforightoffKodiakResearch'sweb
site.IthinkitmightbebesttogowithgenuineRotaxlimitsrather
thanadealer'soldvideo.Butthatisonlymyhumbleopinion.
CurrentOperator'sHandbookforthe503indicates:
NormalEGT:860Fto1,000F
MaxEGT:1,200Fwithdifferencebetweencyls:43F
NormalCHT:350Fto430F
MaxCHT:480Fwithdifferencebetweencyls:34F
Ihavemuchbetterlucktuningtheproptotheengineandairplane,
especiallytwostrokes,sincetheyaresovulernabletoloading.The
engineersatRotaxsetuptheenginestooperatewithoutretuningthe
engine.Exceptinextremecases,rejettingshouldnothavetobe
done.Tempchangesfromsummertowinter,etc,canusuallybetaken
careofbyraisingorloweringthecliponthefuelneedle.
Thisgoesforchangingsparkplugheatrangealso.
Allthemanualsareavailablerighthereforfree:
http://www.kodiakbs.com/tiintro.htm
johnh
MKIII
titus,alabama
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| Subject: | Re: non brs save |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
sorry guys I cant make it work
Steve
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6991#6991
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| Subject: | Re: non brs save |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Steve,
See if you can send it to someone "off list"
or just type the net site address in your post.
Chris Mallory
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:19 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: non brs save
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
I flew an S-12XL for about 2 years, and now have a MkIIIc, but with
only about 5 hours time with her. There are definitely pros and cons
on each side. The following are MY opinions and impressions... I have
no doubt whatsoever that not everyone will agree with me but, then,
that's just the way it is.
The S12XL was much heavier and never got a very good climb rate; the
Kolb is much lighter and climbs like an elevator.
The S12XL was a VERY stable, predictable flyer, and very well designed
and built, and a real joy to fly; the Kolb is, well, I'm still
learning it, but it feels a little bit less stable (but not enough to
sway me either way) and isn't as polished as the RANS kit. Generally,
though, it's a wash. Once I get some elevator trim and/or the wing
washout fixed, that may make them equals in my mind. I think the
Kolb cage is a bit more protective than the RANS cage.
The Kolb definitely flies faster than the S12XL... it seems to be a
bit more slippery in the air.
The S12XL seems to be, overall, a bit more sturdy than the Kolb,
especially the gear legs, but again not a major difference. The flaps
in the S12XL were much easier to actuate.
The S12XL has a LOT more useable space and can carry a lot more gas...
I really miss these two things... but it's what I had to give up in
order to get foldable wings.
The view is terrific on both. My S12XL had half-doors so picture
taking was excellent... I may have to either put a sliding window in
my Kolb door, or change them to half-doors because this is a
"must-have" for me.
Conclusion: if you must have folding wings, no choice: the Kolb. If
that's not an issue at all, the choice is harder. I like the fact
that the Kolb is more slippery, which translate to a faster aircraft
with better gas mileage. The RANS was a lot roomier, with more space
for gas and sundries. They both seem to be very tough aircraft, with
the Kolb gearlegs being just slightly less robust than the RANS.
Probably the "final word" is: I now own a Kolb. <g>
-- Robert
P.S. Go with the 912 or 912S... the 582 is a lot more expensive over
the long run and much less reliable.
On 1/25/06, jdmurr@juno.com <jdmurr@juno.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
>
> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has
experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's
say they both have 582's in them.
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
> John Murr
>
>
> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
>
>
> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has
experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's
say they both have 582's in them.
>
>
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
>
>
> John Murr
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sounds like a good plan.
RPM's on climb between 6250 and 6350 ought to work, and I run all those
those other RPM's as you with good success. Some folks prefer to run
their 2 strokes at 5800 rpm most all the time because supposedly that's
what the engines were designed for, however that would give me an
airspeed of around 80, and over these East Tennessee hills and
mountains, that gives me a ride that I was not designed for. Crank in a
bit of prop pitch and you will probably be satisfied.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P
jdmurr@juno.com wrote:
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>
>The video also said max rpm should be 6,250. So if I'm getting 6,600, which I
am, and 1,200 EGT and 300 CHT, perhaps I need to add some pitch, get the rpms
down to 6,300 to reduce the EGT and increase the CHT to the ranges you noted?
>Also I only go full throttle at take off for less than a minute and I'm at least
1,000 AGL. Usually I run 4,500-4,800 rpm. 5,200-5,500 rpm if I need to get
some where.
>I have a 503 DCDI
>John Murr
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: non brs save |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
sorry guys I cant make it work >>
Neither can I,
Pat
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: non brs save |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
Sounds like a personal problem...
DVD
On 1/26/06, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> sorry guys I cant make it work >>
>
> Neither can I,
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
Thanks for the input on EGT. Seems I have the correct main of 165 ,as I am
at around 45' above sea level and will not be in temps over 95* I guess I
should have given more info on my egt question.
Firefly 447
Full throttle take off: EGT 1000 *
CHT 350*
WOT level flight 6,450 rpms 75mph
Temps about same as above
Flying slightly above stall speed 4500-5000 rpms
EGT 1200* CHT 350*
If I fly above 5200 or below 4000 or so, all temps are fine. Do
these look like normal temps and I will just have to avoid slow flying? Or is
there some other trick. I just dont want to ruin a new engine.
Ed Diebel ( Firefly #62)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Proper Jets
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| Ed Diebel ( Firefly #62)
Ed D/Gang:
I'd be happy with those temps if it was my airplane and engine. Can't
get any better than that.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
That doesn't sound dangerous to me, 1200 degrees is marginal by Rotax's
current specs, although normal by their specs from former years, but at
5000 rpm's or below an EGT of 1200 will be unlikely to hurt anything.
And that temp will drop closer to the "normal" range when summer gets here.
Do you have the jet needle and needle jet that Rotax calls for? A
fatter needle than called for will give you less fuel in midrange. And
so will a smaller needle jet.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>Group,
>
> Thanks for the input on EGT. Seems I have the correct main of 165 ,as I am
>at around 45' above sea level and will not be in temps over 95* I guess I
>should have given more info on my egt question.
> Firefly 447
> Full throttle take off: EGT 1000 *
> CHT 350*
> WOT level flight 6,450 rpms 75mph
>Temps about same as above
> Flying slightly above stall speed 4500-5000 rpms
>EGT 1200* CHT 350*
>
> If I fly above 5200 or below 4000 or so, all temps are fine. Do
>these look like normal temps and I will just have to avoid slow flying? Or is
>there some other trick. I just dont want to ruin a new engine.
>
> Ed Diebel ( Firefly #62)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
Great! Thanks!
Wasn't the S12-S designed to be "more slippery" At least that's what their ads
claim.
-- Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
I flew an S-12XL for about 2 years, and now have a MkIIIc, but with
only about 5 hours time with her. There are definitely pros and cons
on each side. The following are MY opinions and impressions... I have
no doubt whatsoever that not everyone will agree with me but, then,
that's just the way it is.
The S12XL was much heavier and never got a very good climb rate; the
Kolb is much lighter and climbs like an elevator.
The S12XL was a VERY stable, predictable flyer, and very well designed
and built, and a real joy to fly; the Kolb is, well, I'm still
learning it, but it feels a little bit less stable (but not enough to
sway me either way) and isn't as polished as the RANS kit. Generally,
though, it's a wash. Once I get some elevator trim and/or the wing
washout fixed, that may make them equals in my mind. I think the
Kolb cage is a bit more protective than the RANS cage.
The Kolb definitely flies faster than the S12XL... it seems to be a
bit more slippery in the air.
The S12XL seems to be, overall, a bit more sturdy than the Kolb,
especially the gear legs, but again not a major difference. The flaps
in the S12XL were much easier to actuate.
The S12XL has a LOT more useable space and can carry a lot more gas...
I really miss these two things... but it's what I had to give up in
order to get foldable wings.
The view is terrific on both. My S12XL had half-doors so picture
taking was excellent... I may have to either put a sliding window in
my Kolb door, or change them to half-doors because this is a
"must-have" for me.
Conclusion: if you must have folding wings, no choice: the Kolb. If
that's not an issue at all, the choice is harder. I like the fact
that the Kolb is more slippery, which translate to a faster aircraft
with better gas mileage. The RANS was a lot roomier, with more space
for gas and sundries. They both seem to be very tough aircraft, with
the Kolb gearlegs being just slightly less robust than the RANS.
Probably the "final word" is: I now own a Kolb. <g>
-- Robert
P.S. Go with the 912 or 912S... the 582 is a lot more expensive over
the long run and much less reliable.
On 1/25/06, jdmurr@juno.com <jdmurr@juno.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
>
> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has
experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's
say they both have 582's in them.
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
> John Murr
>
>
> First and foremost I love my Firestar.
>
>
> I recently got my ticket and I'm thinking two place. Is there anyone who has
experience with both these planes that could compare and contrast them? Let's
say they both have 582's in them.
>
>
> OK, now what about the Mark III compared to the S-12S both with a 912S in them?
>
>
> John Murr
>
>
Great! Thanks!
Wasn't the S12-S designed to be "more slippery" At least that's what their ads
claim.
--RobertLairdrlaird@cavediver.comwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:RobertLairdrlaird@cavediver.com
IflewanS-12XLforabout2years,andnowhaveaMkIIIc,butwith
onlyabout5hourstimewithher.Therearedefinitelyprosandcons
oneachside.ThefollowingareMYopinionsandimpressions...Ihave
nodoubtwhatsoeverthatnoteveryonewillagreewithmebut,then,
that'sjustthewayitis.
TheS12XLwasmuchheavierandnevergotaverygoodclimbrate;the
Kolbismuchlighterandclimbslikeanelevator.
TheS12XLwasaVERYstable,predictableflyer,andverywelldesigned
andbuilt,andarealjoytofly;theKolbis,well,I'mstill
learningit,butitfeelsalittlebitlessstable(butnotenoughto
swaymeeitherway)andisn'taspolishedastheRANSkit.Generally,
though,it'sawash.OnceIgetsomeelevatortrimand/orthewing
washoutfixed,thatmaymakethemequalsinmymind.Ithinkthe
KolbcageisabitmoreprotectivethantheRANScage.
TheKolbdefinitelyfliesfasterthantheS12XL...itseemstobea
bitmoreslipperyintheair.
TheS12XLseemstobe,overall,abitmoresturdythantheKolb,
especiallythegearlegs,butagainnotamajordifference.Theflaps
intheS12XLweremucheasiertoactuate.
TheS12XLhasaLOTmoreuseablespaceandcancarryalotmoregas...
Ireallymissthesetwothings...butit'swhatIhadtogiveupin
ordertogetfoldablewings.
Theviewisterrificonboth.MyS12XLhadhalf-doorssopicture
takingwasexcellent...Imayhavetoeitherputaslidingwindowin
myKolbdoor,orchangethemtohalf-doorsbecausethisisa
"must-have"forme.
Conclusion:ifyoumusthavefoldingwings,nochoice:theKolb.If
that'snotanissueatall,thechoiceisharder.Ilikethefact
thattheKolbismoreslippery,whichtranslatetoafasteraircraft
withbettergasmileage.TheRANSwasalotroomier,withmorespace
forgasandsundries.Theybothseemtobeverytoughaircraft,with
theKolbgearlegsbeingjustslightlylessrobustthantheRANS.
Probablythe"finalword"is:InowownaKolb.g
--Robert
P.S.Gowiththe912or912S...the582isalotmoreexpensiveover
thelongrunandmuchlessreliable.
On1/25/06,jdmurr@juno.comjdmurr@juno.comwrote:
--Kolb-Listmessagepostedby:"jdmurr@juno.com"jdmurr@juno.com
FirstandforemostIlovemyFirestar.
IrecentlygotmyticketandI'mthinkingtwoplace.Isthereanyonewhohasexperiencewithboththeseplanesthatcouldcompareandcontrastthem?Let'ssaytheybothhave582'sinthem.
OK,nowwhatabouttheMarkIIIcomparedtotheS-12Sbothwitha912Sinthem?
JohnMurr
FirstandforemostIlovemyFirestar.
IrecentlygotmyticketandI'mthinkingtwoplace.Isthereanyonewhohasexperiencewithboththeseplanesthatcouldcompareandcontrastthem?Let'ssaytheybothhave582'sinthem.
OK,nowwhatabouttheMarkIIIcomparedtotheS-12Sbothwitha912Sinthem?
JohnMurr
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Hi Kolb Gang,
A slow day here in Texas so here are some more photos:
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
More photos:
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III vs. Airaile S-12 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
On 1/26/06, jdmurr@juno.com <jdmurr@juno.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jdmurr@juno.com" <jdmurr@juno.com>
>
> Great! Thanks!
> Wasn't the S12-S designed to be "more slippery" At least that's what their ads
claim.
Yes, the finish on the S12-S does make it more slippery than the
Dacron sails... In theory, you'd get another 5-10mph. And that would
put it more along the lines of what the Kolb can do in terms of speed,
but it will never outclimb a MkIII... it's just too heavy and/or the
wing cross-section isn't suited for it.
-- Robert
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
How about some photos of "Kolb People."
You know who you are! The rest will just have to guess.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
More "Kolb People."
You know who you are! The rest will just have to guess.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
More "Kolb People."
You know who you are! The rest will just have to guess.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Last one I have of "Kolb People."
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
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| Subject: | EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
Spent last weekend at Palm Beach (Lantana Field) attending the EAA Repairman LSA
Inspection Rating Course (Airplane)
Course was taught by husband/wife Lisa Turner and Jerry Stautmiller. Jerry has
been in aviation for 50 years and is A&P and is currently rebuilding Stearmans
(17) to show quality. He is also Poly- Fiber distributor. Lisa has every qualification
in the book-- Director of Training for Tyco, PhD, PE, 2 masters,
has built two planes ( and has Kolb Mk III in progress- that made me feel good),
on and on.
The course is excellent and I would recommend for all to attend. The end result
is a FAA test and if passed an FAA rating to allow you to annually inspect an
Experimental-LSA or Special LSA that you own.
There has been much talk on the board regarding vortex generators so when it came
up in class regarding flight testing I perked up my ears. The FAA requires
approval and Phase I testing for all modifications of a major change to "Operating
Limitations"-- and this includes vortex generators. So if you are experimenting
with VG's you should: notify FSDO or DAR, remain in test area (approved
by FAA/DAR) for 5 hrs or agreed upon time, do not fly passengers, make detailed
logbook enty upon completion and certify that aircraft is in compliance
with 91.319b
Just some thoughts.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Tom,
What about the course? Pretty intense?
What was the cost?
Chris Mallory
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
>
> Spent last weekend at Palm Beach (Lantana Field) attending the EAA
> Repairman LSA Inspection Rating Course (Airplane)
>
> Course was taught by husband/wife Lisa Turner and Jerry Stautmiller.
> Jerry has been in aviation for 50 years and is A&P and is currently
> rebuilding Stearmans (17) to show quality. He is also Poly- Fiber
> distributor. Lisa has every qualification in the book-- Director of
> Training for Tyco, PhD, PE, 2 masters, has built two planes ( and has Kolb
> Mk III in progress- that made me feel good), on and on.
>
> The course is excellent and I would recommend for all to attend. The end
> result is a FAA test and if passed an FAA rating to allow you to annually
> inspect an Experimental-LSA or Special LSA that you own.
>
> There has been much talk on the board regarding vortex generators so when
> it came up in class regarding flight testing I perked up my ears. The FAA
> requires approval and Phase I testing for all modifications of a major
> change to "Operating Limitations"-- and this includes vortex generators.
> So if you are experimenting with VG's you should: notify FSDO or DAR,
> remain in test area (approved by FAA/DAR) for 5 hrs or agreed upon time,
> do not fly passengers, make detailed logbook enty upon completion and
> certify that aircraft is in compliance with 91.319b
>
> Just some thoughts.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7071#7071
>
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| Subject: | E-LSA vs E-amateur built |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi All, I just learned that if you go E-LSA you cannot do your own annual,
without taking the 16 hour course. However, if you built 51% or more of
your aircraft you can go the E-amateur built route and do your own annual
without taking the course. The EAA guide I bought has me on the E-LSA
path, I hope it`s not too late to get on the E-amateur built path which is
where I want to be. Once I understand something it dosen`t confuse me
anymore! Lanny Fetterman N598LF
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| Subject: | Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
Go to http://www.sportair.org/workshops/Repairman%20(LSA)%20Inspection-Airplane.html#TopOfPage
Price was $299 EAA member, $339 non-member. FAA requires 16 hour minimum so we
worked late for two nights. Covered a lot of ground but very relaxed atmosphere.
Two guys were from Lancair- so we even had more knowledge than Jerry/Lisa.
Course was relaxed and test was typical FAA multiple choice of 50-- you needed
80%
I bought a Kolb- not built one so for me the course was invaluable. I felt weak
in Kolb systems and Rotax powerplant. We covered everything from regs, control
systems, rigging, safties, engines, inspection, covering-metal,fabric, and
composites. Only area that the seminar was weak in was 2 stroke engines. So
I will be picking brains at Sun-n-Fun. One reference manual that we used a lot
was FAA AC43.13. Everyone should have it on a bookshelf-- to be gotten out
often.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7096#7096
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Kolb List
It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my
recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing
one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric
off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a
message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should
have at least said =93please=94.
But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,
offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had
received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest
(misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally
assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where
did that come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone
else.
This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the
inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this
is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any
more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of
you for my own small part in it.
Russ Kinne
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Kolb List
> It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my
> recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing
> one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric
> off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a
> message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should
> have at least said =93please=94.
> But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,
> offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had
> received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest
> (misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally
> assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where
> did that come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone
> else.
> This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the
> inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this
> is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any
> more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of
> you for my own small part in it.
> Russ Kinne
Russ,
The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned it was over
yesterday. It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in this forum.
I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its history. I am more
happy to accept a sincere apology. We all get emotional and say things we
shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of that, we all have at one time or another, its
no big deal...
When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack than a sincere
apology. I read it and most of the content is talking aobut my spelling, rehashing
old issues, and telling everyone how you filtered my posts. Its dissapointing
to me to see all this being brought up again, and disguised as an apology.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
I know that I should just shut up and let this thing die an ugly death but
..................... Damn Mike, PLEASE, just take what you got and be happy
with it and let it be as you said .... HISTORY.
You got your apology, don't judge the quality of it.
Chris Mallory
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: list
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:
>> Kolb List
>> It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my
>> recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing
>> one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric
>> off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a
>> message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should
>> have at least said =93please=94.
>> But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,
>> offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had
>> received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest
>> (misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally
>> assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where
>> did that come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone
>> else.
>> This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the
>> inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this
>> is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any
>> more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of
>> you for my own small part in it.
>> Russ Kinne
>
>
> Russ,
>
> The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned it was
> over yesterday. It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in this forum.
>
> I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its history. I
> am more happy to accept a sincere apology. We all get emotional and say
> things we shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of that, we all have at one time
> or another, its no big deal...
>
> When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack than a
> sincere apology. I read it and most of the content is talking aobut my
> spelling, rehashing old issues, and telling everyone how you filtered my
> posts. Its dissapointing to me to see all this being brought up again,
> and disguised as an apology.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
PLEASE!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mallory
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: list
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
I know that I should just shut up and let this thing die an ugly death but
..................... Damn Mike, PLEASE, just take what you got and be happy
with it and let it be as you said .... HISTORY.
You got your apology, don't judge the quality of it.
Chris Mallory
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: list
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:
>> Kolb List
>> It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my
>> recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing
>> one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric
>> off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a
>> message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should
>> have at least said =93please=94.
>> But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,
>> offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had
>> received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest
>> (misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally
>> assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where
>> did that come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone
>> else.
>> This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the
>> inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this
>> is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any
>> more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of
>> you for my own small part in it.
>> Russ Kinne
>
>
> Russ,
>
> The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned it was
> over yesterday. It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in this forum.
>
> I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its history. I
> am more happy to accept a sincere apology. We all get emotional and say
> things we shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of that, we all have at one time
> or another, its no big deal...
>
> When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack than a
> sincere apology. I read it and most of the content is talking aobut my
> spelling, rehashing old issues, and telling everyone how you filtered my
> posts. Its dissapointing to me to see all this being brought up again,
> and disguised as an apology.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
No comment
On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:16 PM, JetPilot wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:
>> Kolb List
>> It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my
>> recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing
>> one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric
>> off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a
>> message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should
>> have at least said =93please=94.
>> But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,
>> offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had
>> received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest
>> (misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone
>> =93verbally
>> assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where
>> did that come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone
>> else.
>> This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor
>> the
>> inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this
>> is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person
>> any
>> more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of
>> you for my own small part in it.
>> Russ Kinne
>
>
> Russ,
>
> The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned
> it was over yesterday. It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in
> this forum.
>
> I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its
> history. I am more happy to accept a sincere apology. We all get
> emotional and say things we shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of
> that, we all have at one time or another, its no big deal...
>
> When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack
> than a sincere apology. I read it and most of the content is
> talking aobut my spelling, rehashing old issues, and telling
> everyone how you filtered my posts. Its dissapointing to me to see
> all this being brought up again, and disguised as an apology.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
> have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Brother Bigelow...
Please, just have the graciousness to vanish... we will all be in your
debt...
sigh....
Beauford
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:16 PM>
> kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:> When I read your post above, it is a
seems to be more of an attack than a sincere apology. I read it and most of
>
> --------
>
> >
>
>
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Makes my mouth water, John. Great stuff. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying Pictures
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
>
> More photos:
>
> --------
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| Subject: | long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
George sent this to me, I would like to share it with everyone.
The words describing the scene were better than a video.
They turn on the images in our minds.
Enjoy the writings of a Canadian who remembered and relived the event.
PS : I don't know who wrote the piece but he's a good wordsmith.
It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang P-51 was to take to
the air. They said it had flown in during the night from some US airport,
the pilot had been tired.
I marveled at the size of the plane dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied
down by her, it was much larger than in the movies. She glistened in the sun
like a bulwark of security from days gone by.
The pilot arrived by cab paid the driver then stepped into the flight
lounge. He was an older man, his wavy hair was grey and tossed . . looked
like it might have been combed, . . . say, around the turn of the century.
His bomber jacket was checked, creased, and worn, it smelled old and
genuine. Old Glory was prominently sewn to its shoulders. He projected a
quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of arrogance. He filed a quick
flight plan to Montreal (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked across the tarmac.
After taking several minutes to perform his walk-around check the pilot
returned to the flight lounge to ask if anyone would be available to stand
by with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird up . . just to be
safe." Though only 12 at the time I was allowed to stand by with an
extinguisher after brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire point
then pull this lever!" I later became a firefighter, but that's another
story.
The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a mirror from fuel fumes
as the huge prop started to rotate. One manifold, then another, and yet
another barked -- I stepped back with the others. In moments the
Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a thunderous roar, blue flames
knifed from her manifolds. I looked at the others' faces, there was no
concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher. One of the guys signaled to
walk back to the lounge, we did.
Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing his pre flight run-up.
He'd taxied to the end of runway 19, out of sight. All went quiet for
several seconds, we raced from the lounge to the second story deck to see if
we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as she started down the runway, we
could not. There we stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a
roar ripped across the field, much louder than before, like a furious hell
spawn set loose---something mighty this way was coming.
"Listen to that thing!" Said the controller. In seconds the Mustang burst
into our line of sight. Its tail was already off and it was moving faster
than anything I'd ever seen by that point on 19. Two thirds the way down 19
the Mustang was airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were
supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed hellish fast into the
circuit to be eaten up by the dog-day haze.
We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying to digest what we'd
just seen. The radio controller rushed by me to the radio. "Kingston radio
calling Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an acknowledgment.
The radio crackled, "Kingston radio, go ahead." "Roger Mustang. Kingston
radio would like to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass." I
stood in shock because the controller had, more or less, just asked the
pilot to return for an impromptu air show!
The controller looked at us. "What?" He asked. "I can't let that guy go
without asking . . . I couldn't forgive myself!" The radio crackled once
again, "Kingston radio, do I have permission for a low level pass, east to
west, across the field?" "Roger Mustang, the circuit is clear for an east to
west pass." "Roger, Kingston radio, we're coming out of 3000 feet, stand
by." We rushed back onto the second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the
eastern haze.
The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a muffled screech, a
distant scream. Moments later the P-51 burst through the haze . . her
airframe straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing tips spilling
contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again supersonic as the burnished bird
blasted across the eastern margin of the field shredding and tearing the
air.
At about 400 Mph and 150 yards from where we stood she passed with an old
American pilot saluting . . . imagine . . . a salute. I felt like laughing,
I felt like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building shook, my
heart pounded . . . then the old pilot pulled her up . . . and rolled, and
rolled, and rolled out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into my
memory.
I've never wanted to be an American more than on that day. It was a time
when many nations in the world looked to America as their big brother, a
steady and even-handed beacon of security who navigated difficult political
water with grace and style; not unlike the pilot who'd just flown into my
memory. He was proud, not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and honest
projecting an aura of America at its best. That America will return one day,
I know it will.
Until that time, I'll just send off a story; call it a reciprocal salute, to
the old American pilot who wove a memory for a young Canadian that's stayed
a lifetime.
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| Subject: | long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
Made me wet my eyes. This was even better than the stuff Beuford dose!
Thanks.
The good Ralph from Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mallory
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: long but Worth the read
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
George sent this to me, I would like to share it with everyone.
The words describing the scene were better than a video.
They turn on the images in our minds.
Enjoy the writings of a Canadian who remembered and relived the event.
PS : I don't know who wrote the piece but he's a good wordsmith.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Some people here have become so biased by a small vocal group here that they have
lost all sense of wright and wrong. Condoning the continuing personal attacks
by Randy or anyone will not solve anything. If this is to stop, it must be
stopped by ALL involved.
Randys "apology" was used as a way to further to insult me, and defend his actions,
it was not a sincere apology or attempt to bring this mess to a close. I
do not appreciate this, and pointed it out in a civilized and friendly manner.
For a couple of people to tell me to be quiet and take further insults is just
wrong on your parts. Put your emotions aside for a minute, and read exactly
what was posted. Do you all have any right or justified reason to attack me,
or tell me to leave the list ? It seems to have become acccepted conduct
to attack a member on this list as long as it is a popular group effort. This
sets a very bad and dangerous precident. Those involved should be ashamed.
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7166#7166
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
WOLF!
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: list
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| Subject: | long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@grandecom.net>
Perhaps as good but not better
George
do not archive
-------Original Message-------
From: flht99reh
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: long but Worth the read
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
Made me wet my eyes. This was even better than the stuff Beuford dose!
Thanks.
The good Ralph from Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mallory
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: long but Worth the read
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
George sent this to me, I would like to share it with everyone.
The words describing the scene were better than a video.
They turn on the images in our minds.
Enjoy the writings of a Canadian who remembered and relived the event.
PS : I don't know who wrote the piece but he's a good wordsmith.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
woof ..........................................
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Cc: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
| Subject: | A big favor please Matt ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
Matt Dralle,
Do us all on the Kolb list a big favor please.
1138329096.m2f.7166@forums.matronics.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 1/26/2006 1:02:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
richard@bcchapel.org writes:
Do you have the jet needle and needle jet that Rotax calls for? A
fatter needle than called for will give you less fuel in midrange. And
so will a smaller needle jet.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Bro. Pike,
I wouldn't know one needle from the other. How do you tell what size
needle you have. I dont have another one to compare it to. It is what came in
it new from the New Kolb Factory. Seems I dont have to worry about the temps
being 1200* as long as I'm under 5,000 rpms. Whenever it goes to 1200* I goose
it and the egt drops right away. Sounds like a rotax right?
Ed Diebel (447 Firefly)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
http://www.garvelink.net/RUSSIA_1_hal.mpg
Sorry it took so long Ray, but here it is it should download from my server.
Steve Garvelink
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7188#7188
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| Subject: | Re: long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
Wow......Chris, that was worth the read...........Shoulda been John Wayne
flying it.....LOL
Wayne McCullough
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: long but Worth the read
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> George sent this to me, I would like to share it with everyone.
>
> The words describing the scene were better than a video.
> They turn on the images in our minds.
> Enjoy the writings of a Canadian who remembered and relived the event.
>
> PS : I don't know who wrote the piece but he's a good wordsmith.
>
>
> It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang P-51 was to take to
> the air. They said it had flown in during the night from some US airport,
> the pilot had been tired.
>
> I marveled at the size of the plane dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied
> down by her, it was much larger than in the movies. She glistened in the
> sun
> like a bulwark of security from days gone by.
>
> The pilot arrived by cab paid the driver then stepped into the flight
> lounge. He was an older man, his wavy hair was grey and tossed . . looked
> like it might have been combed, . . . say, around the turn of the century.
> His bomber jacket was checked, creased, and worn, it smelled old and
> genuine. Old Glory was prominently sewn to its shoulders. He projected a
> quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of arrogance. He filed a quick
> flight plan to Montreal (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked across the tarmac.
>
> After taking several minutes to perform his walk-around check the pilot
> returned to the flight lounge to ask if anyone would be available to stand
> by with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird up . . just to
> be
> safe." Though only 12 at the time I was allowed to stand by with an
> extinguisher after brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire
> point
> then pull this lever!" I later became a firefighter, but that's another
> story.
>
> The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a mirror from fuel
> fumes
> as the huge prop started to rotate. One manifold, then another, and yet
> another barked -- I stepped back with the others. In moments the
> Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a thunderous roar, blue
> flames
> knifed from her manifolds. I looked at the others' faces, there was no
> concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher. One of the guys signaled
> to
> walk back to the lounge, we did.
>
> Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing his pre flight run-up.
> He'd taxied to the end of runway 19, out of sight. All went quiet for
> several seconds, we raced from the lounge to the second story deck to see
> if
> we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as she started down the runway, we
> could not. There we stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a
> roar ripped across the field, much louder than before, like a furious hell
> spawn set loose---something mighty this way was coming.
>
> "Listen to that thing!" Said the controller. In seconds the Mustang burst
> into our line of sight. Its tail was already off and it was moving faster
> than anything I'd ever seen by that point on 19. Two thirds the way down
> 19
> the Mustang was airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were
> supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed hellish fast into
> the
> circuit to be eaten up by the dog-day haze.
>
> We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying to digest what we'd
> just seen. The radio controller rushed by me to the radio. "Kingston radio
> calling Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an acknowledgment.
> The radio crackled, "Kingston radio, go ahead." "Roger Mustang. Kingston
> radio would like to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass." I
> stood in shock because the controller had, more or less, just asked the
> pilot to return for an impromptu air show!
>
> The controller looked at us. "What?" He asked. "I can't let that guy go
> without asking . . . I couldn't forgive myself!" The radio crackled once
> again, "Kingston radio, do I have permission for a low level pass, east to
> west, across the field?" "Roger Mustang, the circuit is clear for an east
> to
> west pass." "Roger, Kingston radio, we're coming out of 3000 feet, stand
> by." We rushed back onto the second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the
> eastern haze.
>
> The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a muffled screech, a
> distant scream. Moments later the P-51 burst through the haze . . her
> airframe straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing tips spilling
> contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again supersonic as the burnished
> bird
> blasted across the eastern margin of the field shredding and tearing the
> air.
>
> At about 400 Mph and 150 yards from where we stood she passed with an old
> American pilot saluting . . . imagine . . . a salute. I felt like
> laughing,
> I felt like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building shook, my
> heart pounded . . . then the old pilot pulled her up . . . and rolled, and
> rolled, and rolled out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into
> my
> memory.
>
> I've never wanted to be an American more than on that day. It was a time
> when many nations in the world looked to America as their big brother, a
> steady and even-handed beacon of security who navigated difficult
> political
> water with grace and style; not unlike the pilot who'd just flown into my
> memory. He was proud, not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and honest
> projecting an aura of America at its best. That America will return one
> day,
> I know it will.
>
> Until that time, I'll just send off a story; call it a reciprocal salute,
> to
> the old American pilot who wove a memory for a young Canadian that's
> stayed
> a lifetime.
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:32:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,
orcabonita@hotmail.com writes:
Some people here have become so biased by a small vocal group here that they
have lost all sense of wright and wrong
It is wrong to keep this up!!!!!!! You're Not makin any friends but
you ARE becoming famous!
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Jack H.,
Was it you that tried the noise cancelling earbuds from Radio Shack? I
can't get mine to work on my Icom radio unless I hold it about half way in the
jack at the top of the radio?
What gives?
Ed Diebel
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| Subject: | center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be flying the
ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few new parts that i never
installed on the KXP.
1) brand new never installed wing gap seal. asking $45.00
2) brand new in the box from westach "CHT" thermocouple 48" type "J" asking
$15.00
3) brand new in the box from westach "EGT" thermocouple 48" type "K" asking
$15.00
please call or email with questions.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
952-474-3540
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| Subject: | Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow part on
a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. :-(
>From: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: EAA LSA Inspect. Rating Course and FAA/Vortex
>Generators
>Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:15:50 -0800
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
>
>Go to
>http://www.sportair.org/workshops/Repairman%20(LSA)%20Inspection-Airplane.html#TopOfPage
>
>Price was $299 EAA member, $339 non-member. FAA requires 16 hour minimum
>so we worked late for two nights. Covered a lot of ground but very relaxed
>atmosphere. Two guys were from Lancair- so we even had more knowledge than
>Jerry/Lisa. Course was relaxed and test was typical FAA multiple choice of
>50-- you needed 80%
>
>I bought a Kolb- not built one so for me the course was invaluable. I felt
>weak in Kolb systems and Rotax powerplant. We covered everything from
>regs, control systems, rigging, safties, engines, inspection,
>covering-metal,fabric, and composites. Only area that the seminar was weak
>in was 2 stroke engines. So I will be picking brains at Sun-n-Fun. One
>reference manual that we used a lot was FAA AC43.13. Everyone should have
>it on a bookshelf-- to be gotten out often.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7096#7096
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
Ed
No that was me. I suspect that you are experiencing the mono source with
stereo earphone problem. You will need to get a mono to stereo adapter that
will get both earbuds talking.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Noise Cancelling Earbuds
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Jack H.,
>
> Was it you that tried the noise cancelling earbuds from Radio Shack? I
> can't get mine to work on my Icom radio unless I hold it about half way
> in the
> jack at the top of the radio?
>
> What gives?
>
>
> Ed Diebel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | winter flying on lake minnetonka... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.
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| Subject: | Re: long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Great story. Check pg2 on my website for an even longer story,
probably too long for here. but has flying in it.
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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| Subject: | winter flying on lake minnetonka... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: winter flying on lake minnetonka...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt"
<johndeereantique@qwest.net>
>
>
> Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Cancelling Earbuds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:04:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
neilsenrmf@comcast.net writes:
No that was me. I suspect that you are experiencing the mono source with
stereo earphone problem. You will need to get a mono to stereo adapter that
will get both earbuds talking.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive
Rick,
When I plug the Earbuds into the Icom the little green light on the radio
turns red and there is no sound at all unless I pull the plug out to just the
right point then you can hear. The plug in adapter from Icom has Four
different contacts on the male plug compared to three on a standard stereo plug.
Does your set work on one side when you plug it into your radio?
I get nothing from mine with the plug all the way in.
Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
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| Subject: | Re: long but Worth the read |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| probably too long for here. but has flying in it.
|
| Bob N.
|
| http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
Hi Bob N/Gang:
Enjoyed your tale on page 2.
Clear and cold in Alabama.
Take care,
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: NON BSR SAVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
That is an incredible video !!! They were witin inches of flying out of that,
so close yet so far..... :?
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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