---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/31/06: 37 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:54 AM - Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings (lndc) 2. 05:44 AM - Re: Kolb Trailer username and password (David Lehman) 3. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings (Eugene Zimmerman) 4. 06:45 AM - Entusiastic group (djo) 5. 07:28 AM - Re: Thoughts on cameras (Jim Baker) 6. 07:43 AM - cost of flying (boyd) 7. 10:00 AM - poly v belt (Rick Miles) 8. 11:14 AM - Re: Entusiastic group (Michael Sharp) 9. 11:18 AM - Re: cost of flying (JetPilot) 10. 11:33 AM - Re: new owner Kold Ultra Star (John Jung) 11. 11:46 AM - Re: poly v belt (ray anderson) 12. 01:07 PM - Re: poly v belt (Jack B. Hart) 13. 02:02 PM - Re: Entusiastic group (Jim Clayton) 14. 02:05 PM - ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 15. 02:24 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (flykolb) 16. 02:44 PM - Move pointer (Jimmy) 17. 02:50 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Robert Laird) 18. 03:21 PM - Re: Move pointer (planecrazzzy) 19. 03:23 PM - Re: Entusiastic group (planecrazzzy) 20. 03:28 PM - Re: cost of flying (planecrazzzy) 21. 04:17 PM - Hexadyne Engine (frank & margie) 22. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (David Lehman) 23. 05:04 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Mike Schnabel) 24. 05:27 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (robert bean) 25. 05:45 PM - Re: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 26. 05:56 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Mike Schnabel) 27. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (Robert Laird) 28. 06:32 PM - Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings (planecrazzzy) 29. 06:33 PM - Re: Old stuff seen flying (Mike Schnabel) 30. 06:42 PM - Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Roger Lee) 31. 07:01 PM - Re: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! (Don Martin) 32. 07:15 PM - Re: New Kolb owner (firebug) 33. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges (Robert Laird) 34. 07:35 PM - Re: poly v belt (Don G) 35. 08:02 PM - Re: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! (Gary r. voigt) 36. 09:09 PM - Re: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! (Don Martin) 37. 10:39 PM - Bryan Melborn's builder's fee (Domenic Perez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:07 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings From: "lndc" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "lndc" Hi, I guess I lucked out on the hauling of a Kolb with the wings folded and the prop not padded. I hauled my original Firestar 400+ miles with the wings folded on an open trailer. Only the boom tube supported. Wings attached to the boom and no other supports. The 3 blade prop not padded. Anybody ever have a problem hauling this way or does everyone just make sure that nothing happens? I was told that my plane came from Atlanta that way. Do not Archive Dan Charter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8377#8377 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:51 AM PST US From: David Lehman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Trailer username and password --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman Thanx Bill... DVD On 1/30/06, WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/29/2006 10:49:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, > david@davidlehman.net writes: > Where's the trailer located?... > He said it was at S37. That's Smoketown, PA. About 60 + miles west of > Philadelphia, PA. > > > Bill Varnes > Original Kolb FireStar > Audubon NJ > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:17 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:49 PM, planecrazzzy wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" > > > Do You EVER look in the archives for ANYTHING.... > > Or you just like to be SPOON FED...... > > Gotta Fart... [Rolling Eyes] > > -------- > The more people I know.... > The more I like MY DOG The more people I know The more I like MY GOD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GOD forgives. :-) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:33 AM PST US From: "djo" Subject: Kolb-List: Entusiastic group --> Kolb-List message posted by: "djo" Hello All; We are group of students working on a student project of design and building of light airplane. All your donation of plans and user manuals for airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed and mentioned. Please send them in PDF or DWG format. All best; Georgi Petkovski ak group please use this e-mail brkonja@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:59 AM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Thoughts on cameras --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" > camera with a remote. Digital still cameras typically don't have them, > but digital video usually do. The Canon Powershot cameras (some other Canons as well) and some Olympus cameras (I have the 2100UZ Olympus as well) can be controlled through the USB port. Almost everything can be controlled. The beauty is that you can build a mount for the camera and use a laptop to control it, including seeing the framed shots in a window that appears to be through the viewfinder or the LCD. You can also set up sequenced, timed shots that make it easy to stich the frames together. I'm watching E Bay right now to find a broken LCD unit that still takes good images. http://www.steves-digicams.com/digsoftware_cameractrl.html Holding a camera with one hand and flying with the other sucks. And you never quite know if the nadir of the shot is going to be close to vertical.. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 '71 SV, 492TC Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:26 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: Kolb-List: cost of flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" Now, there's a thought. If a new 172 is $180,000, then one built from parts would be........what ??...........$1/2 million ?? It boggles the mind. Lar. Do not Archive. NO NO NO NO I think the cost of the 172 is closer to 80.000 and the cost of cesna's liability insurance is 100.000 of which they are not shy about passing along. boyd ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:25 AM PST US From: Rick Miles Subject: Kolb-List: poly v belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles Does someone have a supplier for the 280j10 poly v belt the US I have needs two new ones but I am have a problem finding them. Thank YOU Rick ultrastar --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:36 AM PST US From: Michael Sharp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Entusiastic group --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp George, What school are you representing? Where are you located? What program within the school is this project assigned to? A little info will go along way to helping folks feel comfortable with your request.. Mike djo wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "djo" Hello All; We are group of students working on a student project of design and building of light airplane. All your donation of plans and user manuals for airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed and mentioned. Please send them in PDF or DWG format. All best; Georgi Petkovski ak group please use this e-mail brkonja@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:46 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: cost of flying From: "JetPilot" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" Its liability and over regulation. The FAA makes parts manufacturers jump through so many hoops to produce anything that it also adds a huge amount to the cost of an airplane. In the 1950's , a new 172 cost about the same as a new Cadillac. Today the Cadillac is 1000 times better than the 50's model, with many more parts that are more complicated to manufacture. The 172 is basically the same plane we had 50 years ago, and now costs 4 times as much as you new caddy. Automakers also pay liability, although it is higher with aviation... Excessive regulation by the government has also made the prices of aircraft go up a huge amount.. -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8491#8491 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:40 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: new owner Kold Ultra Star From: "John Jung" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" On 1/29/06, Rick Miles wrote: > I have E-Mailed Kolb to get > the manuals for the US but they have not responded as of yet. Rick, I am pretty sure that TNK will not be able to help you with plans. The Ultrastar was not a current design when they bought the company and they do not support it. Someone on this list might be the best source. do not archive -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8492#8492 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:30 AM PST US From: ray anderson Subject: Re: Kolb-List: poly v belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson Rick, They are available at many industrial belt suppliers. One can be reached at Michigan Industrial Belting -- 1-800-778-1650 and they are priced at about $18.00 - 19.00 plus tax. I suggest you don't mention aircraft use. That seems to be as good a price as I've seen. Do not archive Rick Miles wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles Does someone have a supplier for the 280j10 poly v belt the US I have needs two new ones but I am have a problem finding them. Thank YOU Rick ultrastar --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:24 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: poly v belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" At 09:57 AM 1/31/06 -0800, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles > >Does someone have a supplier for the 280j10 poly v belt the US I have needs two new ones but I am have a problem finding them. > > Thank YOU > > Rick > ultrastar > Rick, Try: http://www.gates.com They make the belt you are interested in. Put your zip code in the box and you can locate a distributor near by. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:55 PM PST US From: Jim Clayton Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Entusiastic group --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton Greetings all, This was posted to the homebuilt list this morning, and I think Sid got it right, so I am cross posting it here. This smells like a scam to me. -Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sid Hausding Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:20 AM Subject: Homebuilt-List: group --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Sid Hausding I'm not saying this gentleman is one, but we have seen this request on other aviation forums as a scam............someone is getting free aircraft plans and manuals, copying them and then turning around and selling unauthorized copies without the owner's or designers persmission. I would wonder why a class would want several designs and not just one that they could work from............sounds too much like the "getting something for nothing" idea and the ebay scam all over again. I belong to four aviation forums and have seen this request twice already and heard the same story from several other friends on other type specific lists...... Hausding, Sid Alpena, Michigan ------------------------ djo wrote: --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "djo" Hello All; We are group of students working on a student project of design and building of light airplane. All your donation of plans and user manuals for airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed and mentioned. Please send them in PDF or DWG format. All best; Georgi Petkovski ak group please use this e-mail brkonja@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:48 PM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. >> David, and Fellow Kolbers - This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus "Experimental Light Sport Aircraft." Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely populated areas." Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912 in Cedar Crest, NM David Key wrote: Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. David, and Fellow Kolbers This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912 in Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:49 PM PST US From: "flykolb" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license vs FAA medical? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > > "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated > areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I > live. >> > > > David, and Fellow Kolbers - > > > This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as > "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus "Experimental > Light Sport Aircraft." > > > Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated > areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly > 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely > populated areas." > > > Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from the > FAA. > > > Dennis Kirby > > Mark-III, 912 in > > Cedar Crest, NM > > > > > > name=3D"place"/> > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote: > Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow > part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and Fellow Kolbers > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is the primary > advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 > percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built aircraft are > allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated > areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I > fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le does not > allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in mind when > applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:02 PM PST US From: "Jimmy" Subject: Kolb-List: Move pointer --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" On the new site that has the map of the location of Kolb Fliers, there was a post of how to move the location of the pointer to the exact location of your site. I want to move mine but I cannot find the post that told how to do this. Can anyone help me with this. Do Not Archive Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly 035 JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:59 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird If the Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft has the flying characteristics that put it into the Experimental-Light Sport Aircraft (E-LSA) category, then a Sport Pilot can fly it. Thus, you can possess a SP license, with no medical required, and still fly an E-AB aircraft (assuming it meets the E-LSA requirements). -- Robert On 2/1/06, flykolb wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" > > Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license vs FAA > medical? > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > > > > > "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated > > areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I > > live. >> > > > > > > > > David, and Fellow Kolbers - > > > > > > > > This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as > > "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus > "Experimental > > Light Sport Aircraft." > > > > > > > > Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated > > areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly > > 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > > > > > > The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely > > populated areas." > > > > > > > > Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from > the > > FAA. > > > > > > > > Dennis Kirby > > > > Mark-III, 912 in > > > > Cedar Crest, NM > > > > > > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > > name=3D"place"/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote: > > Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow > > part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and Fellow > Kolbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is the > primary > > advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 > > percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built aircraft > are > > allowed by the FARs to fly over densely > populated > > areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I > > fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le does > not > > allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in mind > when > > applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in > > > > > > > > > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Move pointer From: "planecrazzzy" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" Hi, Click on your "pin" a flag will pop up.....on it , it sez, "change Location" I found it best to use "MAP" and set your pin.....THEN switch to satilite and move it to exactly where you want it.....cool Gotta Fly... Mike in MN FSII / N381PM -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG .. .. .. .. .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8533#8533 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:47 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Entusiastic group From: "planecrazzzy" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" If they want "PLANS" they have to purchase them from who ever has the copy rights......anyone else could be sued..... Gotta Fly... Mike -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG .. .. .. .. .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8538#8538 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:57 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: cost of flying From: "planecrazzzy" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" Those damn regulations.... They "UP" the price on EVERYTHING ! Gotta Fly... [quote="JetPilot"]Its liability and over regulation. The FAA makes parts manufacturers jump through so many hoops to produce anything that it also adds a huge amount to the cost of an airplane.quote] -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG .. .. .. .. .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8539#8539 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:03 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Hexadyne Engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: "frank & margie" "I got a chance to meet Cy Williams (President and Chief Engineer) at Copperstate, last October. He gave a talk about his engine in the CONTACT booth. I had also seen it at Oshkosh more than once and a friend tried his engine on a Mark III that was used for towing hang gliders." --------------------------- John, The crankcase pressure problem supposedly has been solved with a dry sump oil system. "The scavenge pump does double duty in that it also functions as the crankcase ventilation, actually providing a slight negative internal crankcase atmosphere." (Sure sounds good----) What did your friend think of the one on his Mark III? I doubt anyone would pay $8800 to be an official engine tester, I wonder what they actually did pay. Like you said, it has to be hard for a small company to develop a viable unit. Which is probably why most of the engines "in development" never make it. I hope this one does. Frank Clyma ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:27:25 PM PST US From: David Lehman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman So, how much do you charge?... On 1/28/06, Ralph Hoover wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" > > I was really hesitant in replying to the post about our walks of life. but > I felt a resaponsibility to my brother Kolbers to share my expierence. :? > > I'm a 61 year old male topless dancer [Twisted Evil] in an all male bar > on Friday nights. I make most of my money from law suite [Idea] won against > men who beat me up . I only have to work one night a week :D (Fridays) but > with the lawyer I have, he assures me that that is enough to establish my > retirement nest egg. [Wink] [Wink] > > > This allows me a considerable amount of time to fly my Kolb :D , with or > without the neck and back brace :( , and sometimes without the > eye-patch [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and add > Saturday nights, that I could in fact double my income and buy a Kolb Mark > III with one of the new four cycle motors. This would allow me the > opertunity to fly out and join John H. and the rest of you in Arazona. If > any of you pilots woudl be interested, I als do private partys, and bring > my own club and chain. :P :P > > Ralph, :D :D :D the good one [Question] [Question] from Ohio! > > Do not archive... ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:46 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel Another question... Does 51% built mean built by the flyer of the aircraft? What if a 51% kit is purchased, and built by another other than the pilot? I purchased a completely built Firestar 2, that was a kit, then paid to be built by an experienced builder... then sold to me. Do i still have the the option of either "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, or is my only option "Experimental Light Sport Aircraft" Whew,,, this can get confusing... Mike S Manchester TN Firestar 2 503 do not archive flykolb wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license vs FAA medical? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > > "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated > areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I > live. >> > > > David, and Fellow Kolbers - > > > This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as > "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus "Experimental > Light Sport Aircraft." > > > Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated > areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly > 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely > populated areas." > > > Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from the > FAA. > > > Dennis Kirby > > Mark-III, 912 in > > Cedar Crest, NM > > > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > name=3D"place"/> > > > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > > > > > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > font-family:Arial; > color:windowtext;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > --> > > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote: > Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow > part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and Fellow Kolbers > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is the primary > advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 > percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built aircraft are > allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated > areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I > fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le does not > allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in mind when > applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in > > > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:43 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Mike, I don't know a whole lot about other red tape but on this subject I speak from experience. Number one is you have to have a history on the plane; that is documentation of the building process by the previous builder.. The FAA doesn't care who did it so much as a written account of the process. What it comes down to is that they REALLY want to do an airworthiness inspection on it and get a legal N number on your ride. If you have to fudge the builder's log a little (?) so be it. Make it look good. Pictures, lots of words. If the guy, designated whoopde-do or whatever, looks at your craft and it LOOKS GREAT. You're in. -Keep us posted. -BB do no archive ps, the W&B is way up there on the list On 31, Jan 2006, at 8:03 PM, Mike Schnabel wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel > > Another question... > > Does 51% built mean built by the flyer of the aircraft? What if a > 51% kit is purchased, and built by another other than the pilot? > > I purchased a completely built Firestar 2, that was a kit, then paid > to be built by an experienced builder... then sold to me. Do i still > have the the option of either "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent > kit) aircraft, or is my only option "Experimental Light Sport > Aircraft" > > Whew,,, this can get confusing... > > Mike S > Manchester TN > Firestar 2 503 > > do not archive > > flykolb wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" > > Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license > vs FAA > medical? > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > >> >> "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely >> popluated >> areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue >> where I >> live. >> >> >> >> >> David, and Fellow Kolbers - >> >> >> >> This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as >> "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus > "Experimental >> Light Sport Aircraft." >> >> >> >> Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely >> populated >> areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, >> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I >> fly >> 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). >> >> >> >> The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely >> populated areas." >> >> >> >> Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate >> from > the >> FAA. >> >> >> >> Dennis Kirby >> >> Mark-III, 912 in >> >> Cedar Crest, NM >> >> >> xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"place"/> >> >> >> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } >> >> >> >>> /* Style Definitions */ >> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal >> {margin:0in; >> margin-bottom:.0001pt; >> font-size:12.0pt; >> font-family:"Times New Roman";} >> a:link, span.MsoHyperlink >> {color:blue; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed >> {color:purple; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> span.EmailStyle17 >> {mso-style-type:personal-compose; >> font-family:Arial; >> color:windowtext;} >> @page Section1 >> {size:8.5in 11.0in; >> margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} >> div.Section1 >> {page:Section1;} >> --> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote: >> Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow >> part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and >>> Fellow > Kolbers >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is >>> the > primary >> advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 >> percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built >>> aircraft > are >> allowed by the FARs to fly over densely > populated >> areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, >> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I >> fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le >>> does > not >> allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in >>> mind > when >> applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:12 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Well I guess you was lucky or someone removed the prop to haul it that far on a open trailer I know a guy that hauled his only a few towns away and the Prop went threw the fabric on his wing and I saw it my self and dont want anyone causing un wanted damage to there plane thats why I posted it You can do it any way you want though its your plane and your money Ellery do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:37 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel Thanks Robert for the advice. This plane was built by Bryan Melborne, who i have learned is a very well respected builder of many a Kolb Aircraft. I will contact him for any help to document its construction. Apart from that, it has only 0.5 hours that was run to test fly, and past that it has rested waiting silently in its enclosed trailer. I will work on developing some history. Thanks again! Mike S Manchester TN Firestar 2 503 do not archive robert bean wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Mike, I don't know a whole lot about other red tape but on this subject I speak from experience. Number one is you have to have a history on the plane; that is documentation of the building process by the previous builder.. The FAA doesn't care who did it so much as a written account of the process. What it comes down to is that they REALLY want to do an airworthiness inspection on it and get a legal N number on your ride. If you have to fudge the builder's log a little (?) so be it. Make it look good. Pictures, lots of words. If the guy, designated whoopde-do or whatever, looks at your craft and it LOOKS GREAT. You're in. -Keep us posted. -BB do no archive ps, the W&B is way up there on the list On 31, Jan 2006, at 8:03 PM, Mike Schnabel wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel > > Another question... > > Does 51% built mean built by the flyer of the aircraft? What if a > 51% kit is purchased, and built by another other than the pilot? > > I purchased a completely built Firestar 2, that was a kit, then paid > to be built by an experienced builder... then sold to me. Do i still > have the the option of either "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent > kit) aircraft, or is my only option "Experimental Light Sport > Aircraft" > > Whew,,, this can get confusing... > > Mike S > Manchester TN > Firestar 2 503 > > do not archive > > flykolb wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" > > Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license > vs FAA > medical? > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > >> >> "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely >> popluated >> areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue >> where I >> live. >> >> >> >> >> David, and Fellow Kolbers - >> >> >> >> This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as >> "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus > "Experimental >> Light Sport Aircraft." >> >> >> >> Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely >> populated >> areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, >> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I >> fly >> 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). >> >> >> >> The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely >> populated areas." >> >> >> >> Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate >> from > the >> FAA. >> >> >> >> Dennis Kirby >> >> Mark-III, 912 in >> >> Cedar Crest, NM >> >> >> xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"place"/> >> >> >> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } >> >> >> >>> /* Style Definitions */ >> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal >> {margin:0in; >> margin-bottom:.0001pt; >> font-size:12.0pt; >> font-family:"Times New Roman";} >> a:link, span.MsoHyperlink >> {color:blue; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed >> {color:purple; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> span.EmailStyle17 >> {mso-style-type:personal-compose; >> font-family:Arial; >> color:windowtext;} >> @page Section1 >> {size:8.5in 11.0in; >> margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} >> div.Section1 >> {page:Section1;} >> --> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote: >> Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow >> part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and >>> Fellow > Kolbers >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is >>> the > primary >> advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51 >> percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built >>> aircraft > are >> allowed by the FARs to fly over densely > populated >> areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe, >> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I >> fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional). >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le >>> does > not >> allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in >>> mind > when >> applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA. >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in >> >> >> >> >> >>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:48 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird If you wink, and you have an eye-patch, isn't that technically a blink? > > without the neck and back brace :( , and sometimes without the > > eye-patch [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and add do not archive ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings From: "planecrazzzy" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" Hey Pappa Vein, At least "I" stuck to the "THREAD".....and I used "DO NOT ARCHIVE"...... Maybe you could start a NEW thread and talk about how he forgives... Whatever.... You make me like my DOG even more ! Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:49 PM, planecrazzzy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do You EVER look in the archives for ANYTHING.... > > > > Or you just like to be SPOON FED...... > > > > Gotta Fart... [Rolling Eyes] > > > > -------- > > The more people I know.... > > The more I like MY DOG > > > > > > > The more people I know > The more I like MY GOD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GOD forgives. > > :-) -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG .. .. .. .. .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8572#8572 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_003_204.jpg ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Old stuff seen flying From: "Mike Schnabel" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Schnabel" Bob, I am really surprised that this post did not get much attention... I thought it was great! So many amazing things to see around the counrty besides the standard big tourist sites... great link, just wanted you to know it was appreciated! Mike S Manchester TN Firestar2 503 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8573#8573 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges From: "Roger Lee" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" Hi All, I had a FAA rep., in Tucson, tell me last month that they are in the process of changing the no flight over densley populated areas this year. He said we should all be allowed some time this year. He read the new rule to me at the time. I hope it comes through. I was going to have my Kolb Mark III set up as experimental-amateur built, but it took alot more paperwork and a paper trail. (I did not build mine) I left mine Light sport and I'm just as happy. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8574#8574 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:08 PM PST US From: "Don Martin" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" >> Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be >>flying the ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few new >>parts that i never installed on the KXP. > > 1) brand new never installed wing gap seal. asking $45.00 > > Tell me more about the gap seal. Does this also fit the Firestar II? > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Kolb owner From: "firebug" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "firebug" Congradulations buddy, let us know how it flies. I don't live too far from where that plane was located. Didn't have the need for a 2 place. It sure is a pretty plane. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8578#8578 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:04 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > I had a FAA rep., in Tucson, tell me last month that they are in the process of changing the no flight over densley populated areas this year. He said we should all be allowed some time this year. He read the new rule to me at the time. I sure hope you're right, but I'll believe it when I see it. I mean, they won't even let LSA amphibs raise/lower their gear in flight. What horse-patootie! -- R ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: poly v belt From: "Don G" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" Call Roger Zerkle at ZDE in FlatRock Illinois for the belt and all your Cuyuna needs. his email is zde@frtci.net -------- Don G FireFly#098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8584#8584 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:05 PM PST US From: "Gary r. voigt" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" Yes, it will fit all 3 kolb firestars....original, KXP & the FS11... Here are some pics. someone may take it but there are still thinking about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Martin" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" > > >> Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be > >>flying the ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few new > >>parts that i never installed on the KXP. > > > > 1) brand new never installed wing gap seal. asking $45.00 > > > > Tell me more about the gap seal. Does this also fit the Firestar II? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:49 PM PST US From: "Don Martin" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" Gary..did I miss something? Where are the pics? >From: "Gary r. voigt" >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! >Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:01:55 -0600 > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" > > > Yes, it will fit all 3 kolb firestars....original, KXP & the FS11... >Here are some pics. someone may take it but there are still thinking about >it. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don Martin" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:00 PM >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" > > > > >> Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be > > >>flying the ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few >new > > >>parts that i never installed on the KXP. > > > > > > 1) brand new never installed wing gap seal. asking $45.00 > > > > > > Tell me more about the gap seal. Does this also fit the Firestar >II? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:26 PM PST US From: "Domenic Perez" Subject: Kolb-List: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez" Mike Schnabel, If Bryan Melborn built your plane, you can rest assured it is one of the best built out there. I think it was here on the list a year or two ago that I heard someone speculate that Bryan had probably built more Kolbs than ANYONE. I believe he IS Kolb technical support at TNK, or at least he was a couple of years ago when I had some questions. So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a Firestar II? Were there any "extras" added that boosted the cost? What was the time frame that your plane was built? M. Domenic Perez Vaughn, NM FS II